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Title: Scilla ID
Post by: Ray on November 02, 2010, 09:16:32 AM
Some years ago I bought some seed described as Scilla peruvianna (cream flowers) and they have flowered for the last couple of years.In the PBS site there is a pic of a Scilla dimartinoi and would like to know if that is what I have or something else,the two pics show a difference in colour.thanks bye Ray
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 04, 2010, 04:48:57 AM
I think they look like S peruviana which varies in colour. I only have a deep blue now but have previously had a lighter (mid) blue and a pure white except for blue on the styles/ovaries.
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: Ezeiza on November 04, 2010, 11:59:00 AM
There is a smallish form, Scilla peruviana ssp. gatefossei in which the inflorescence looks open, few flowered, like yours.
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: Paul T on November 05, 2010, 12:24:02 PM
The colouration of your second pic looks like Scilla peruviana var harrisiana.  Sort of a "murky" pink and blue combination.  Out of interest, does that one produce bulbils on the roots?  I grow a couple of different colour forms of the peruviana as well as the traditional blue and pure white forms.... they all basically behave themselves.  The var harrisiana is never going to go into the ground unless I have lots of space, when you knock it out of the pot the roots running around the edges of the pot have a line of bulbils along the top of the root.  Very different to the others that I grow, which makes me wonder whether it is actually a different species?  The flowers pretty much match your second pic.  I quite like it as it is different, but the sheer amount of bulbils on the roots is rather worrying.  :o

Either way, both are quite nice additions to the peruviana collection I would imagine.  I have enough of my pure whites if you are wanting to add that to your collection?  I haven't seen them around that often, so there is a chance you might not already have it?
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: Ray on November 06, 2010, 08:14:12 AM
Hi All,and thanks for your replies.The real difference to what I call S peruvianna is that these plants are dwarfs,the more cream one is only 75mm tall and the other 120mm.
Interesting to note that neither S dimartinoi or var harrisiana appear in the Kew check list.
Thanks for the offer of the white Paul but I do have it.thanks bye Ray
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: Diane Clement on November 06, 2010, 08:30:09 AM
Hi All,and thanks for your replies.The real difference to what I call S peruvianna is that these plants are dwarfs,the more cream one is only 75ml tall and the other 120ml.
Interesting to note that neither S dimartinoi or var harrisiana appear in the Kew check list.

S dimartinoi does

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=287956 (http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=287956)
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: LucS on March 17, 2011, 07:44:28 PM
Two scilla in need of an ID.

The first was collected in Jebl Nusairia Syria under collectionnumber RRW9628

The secound is grown from AGS seed as scilla vvdenskyi
I don't know the real S. vvdenskyi, so I hope someone can verify the name.
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: David Nicholson on March 17, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
Two scilla in need of an ID.

The first was collected in Jebl Nusairia Syria under collectionnumber RRW9628


That is Bob and Rannveig Wallis' collection.
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: olegKon on March 17, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
Tis is my scilla vvedenskii from Norman Stevens. The picture is of last year as it floweres here at the end of Aprile/ beginning of May
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: LucS on March 18, 2011, 02:16:51 PM
Two scilla in need of an ID.

The first was collected in Jebl Nusairia Syria under collectionnumber RRW9628


That is Bob and Rannveig Wallis' collection.
It is, but they don't have an ID
I hope someone local can help.
Title: Re: Scilla ID
Post by: LucS on March 18, 2011, 02:17:30 PM
Tis is my scilla vvedenskii from Norman Stevens. The picture is of last year as it floweres here at the end of Aprile/ beginning of May
It looks similar doesn't it ?
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