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Title: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 18, 2010, 11:44:15 PM
Help!
Jill Weatherhead is doing a talk at our group this Saturday and she sent me some pics to ID - but I'll need help!
She has put some suggestions for the genus but needs the specific name where possible.
I thought the geum was possibly a potentilla; any help would be appreciated!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: Lori S. on October 19, 2010, 02:38:56 AM
The one labelled as Hedysarum looks a lot like Onobrychis.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 19, 2010, 07:06:06 AM
The one labelled as Hedysarum looks a lot like Onobrychis.
Thanks, Lori, it looks like it's Onobrychis viciifolia!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: tonyg on October 19, 2010, 10:39:01 AM
Fermi - some ideas, will do better with my Flora Helvetica when at home.

Prunella = Thymus ?serphyllum
7803 = Scabiosa ?
7983 & pink pulsatilla = Pulsatilla vernalis - often very pink on petal reverse
Geum = likely potentilla but tricky without leaves
Helianthemum = probably nummularium from what we can see of leaves but difficult to tell size.
Geranium .... pratense or sylvaticum but maybe you'd got that far already!

Good luck - I'll check back later and refine these if someone else has not already done so.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: Lori S. on October 19, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Thanks, Lori, it looks like it's Onobrychis viciifolia!
cheers
fermi
Great!   Thought that was very likely (O. vicifolia is a common escape from forage crops in the foothills here) but hesitated to say, not being overly familiar with other Onobrychis species.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 19, 2010, 10:56:15 PM
Thanks for your help as well, Tony.
I'll send Jill the names so she can update her list.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: mark smyth on October 20, 2010, 11:53:29 AM
Tony is correct. The Geranium is G. sylvaticum
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 21, 2010, 01:21:25 AM
Tony is correct. The Geranium is G. sylvaticum
Thanks, Mark. That's both pictures?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 21, 2010, 08:31:24 AM
A veronica which is still in need of a name:
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: tonyg on October 21, 2010, 10:26:02 AM
Yes to Geranium sylvaticum for both ... I looked in my F H  last night.  Will try and find the veronica tonight.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: hadacekf on October 21, 2010, 06:09:50 PM
It is Veronica urticifolia.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: tonyg on October 21, 2010, 11:41:36 PM
Yes to Geranium sylvaticum for both ... I looked in my F H  last night.  Will try and find the veronica tonight.
FH to the rescue - no need for my Flora Helvetica as Franz Hadacek has the answer :)
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 22, 2010, 04:17:25 AM
Thank you, Franz and Tony.
Jill just sent me another one which is a good shot of the mountains but not so good of the plant in the foreground! Is it a prunella?
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: Diane Clement on October 22, 2010, 08:59:40 AM
Thank you, Franz and Tony.
Jill just sent me another one which is a good shot of the mountains but not so good of the plant in the foreground! Is it a prunella?  cheers  fermi   

Looks more like Pedicularis.  Not sure the picture is good enough to tell the species, although Franz probably can  ;D
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: hadacekf on October 22, 2010, 08:22:48 PM
fermi,
Diana is right, I think it is Pedicularis recutita.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: tonyg on October 22, 2010, 08:38:01 PM
Thank you, Franz and Tony.
Jill just sent me another one which is a good shot of the mountains but not so good of the plant in the foreground! Is it a prunella?
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cheers
fermi
Yes, Pedicularis it is.  I hesitate to differ with Franz but I don't think it is P. recutita which is taller and much darker in flower.  I would suggest P verticillata.
I have seen both in Switzerland, they are quite different.  On the Mannlichen (where your photo was taken) Pedicularis verticillata grows in great abundance.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: hadacekf on October 23, 2010, 07:42:29 PM
Tony,
You are right.
Title: Re: Swiss wildflower ID
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 24, 2010, 05:27:42 AM
Thank you to everyone who helped out with the identifying of these plants.
Jill gave a marvelous talk last night despite difficult circumstances with equipment failure!
The pictures of the mountain flowers were just wonderful especially the anemones, ranunculi and pulsatillas! Cliff would've loved it! ;D
cheers
fermi
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