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Title: Arenaria name
Post by: Graham Catlow on September 19, 2010, 06:05:09 PM: Hi,
I bought an Arenaria in the spring and the label was Arenaria alvacariensis. This name comes up in Google but there isn't much information on it.
Yesterday I saw a plant of very similar appearance labeled as A. alfacariensis. This name has a lot of information on Google.

Are there two with similar spelling or is one correct and the other not? :-\

Hope someone can help. :)

Photo of my Arenaria.
Title: Re: Arenaria name
Post by: TheOnionMan on September 19, 2010, 06:49:58 PM: Graham, I did a name search on IPNI.ORG, searching on arenaria al*, it comes up with the following:
http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=A3A31EE69177A41B051CC8C8C9B78258?find_family=&find_genus=Arenaria&find_species=al*&find_infrafamily=&find_infragenus=&find_infraspecies=&find_authorAbbrev=&find_includePublicationAuthors=on&find_includePublicationAuthors=off&find_includeBasionymAuthors=on&find_includeBasionymAuthors=off&find_publicationTitle=&find_isAPNIRecord=on&find_isAPNIRecord=false&find_isGCIRecord=on&find_isGCIRecord=false&find_isIKRecord=on&find_isIKRecord=false&find_rankToReturn=all&output_format=normal&find_sortByFamily=on&find_sortByFamily=off&query_type=by_query&back_page=plantsearch (http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=A3A31EE69177A41B051CC8C8C9B78258?find_family=&find_genus=Arenaria&find_species=al*&find_infrafamily=&find_infragenus=&find_infraspecies=&find_authorAbbrev=&find_includePublicationAuthors=on&find_includePublicationAuthors=off&find_includeBasionymAuthors=on&find_includeBasionymAuthors=off&find_publicationTitle=&find_isAPNIRecord=on&find_isAPNIRecord=false&find_isGCIRecord=on&find_isGCIRecord=false&find_isIKRecord=on&find_isIKRecord=false&find_rankToReturn=all&output_format=normal&find_sortByFamily=on&find_sortByFamily=off&query_type=by_query&back_page=plantsearch)

It seems it is Arenaria alfacarensis Pamp., (note that it is "ensis" and not "iensis"), and there is no variant species with a "v". In terms of similarly named species and possible label garbling, there is an Arenaria algarbiensis.

Heck of a nice Arenaria by the way!
Title: Re: Arenaria name
Post by: Graham Catlow on September 19, 2010, 07:52:37 PM: Hi Mark,
Thanks for doing that. I would not have known where to look.
The two places I have seen this use 'iensis' and one of them uses a 'v' in one place and an 'f' in another.

I think I should be using alfacarensis.

The plant has done really well since the spring - it was a very small specimen when I bought it.
Thanks for the compliment.

Graham
Title: Re: Arenaria name
Post by: Great Moravian on September 21, 2010, 09:54:58 AM: Flora Europaea online

Arenaria alfacarensis Pamp.
Family: Caryophyllaceae
Genus: Arenaria
Species: alfacarensis
Rank: species
Reference: Nuovo Gior. Bot. Ital. nov. ser. 22: 64 (1915)
Name status: Accepted
Synonym(s):

* Arenaria lithops Heywood ex McNeill
* Arenaria pulvinata Huter, non Edgew.

Distribution: Hs
S.E. Spain
Endemic

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Arenaria algarbiensis Welw. ex Willk.
Family: Caryophyllaceae
Genus: Arenaria
Species: algarbiensis
Rank: species
Reference: Icon. Descr. Pl. Nov. 1(9): 93 (1855)
Name status: Accepted
Distribution: Hs Lu
S. Portugal; S.W. Spain
Endemic

Hence Arenaria alfacarensis Pamp. is correct for Arenaria lithops of the gardens.
Title: Re: Arenaria name
Post by: Graham Catlow on September 26, 2010, 07:41:34 PM: Quote from: Great Moravian on September 21, 2010, 09:54:58 AM
Flora Europaea online

Hence Arenaria alfacarensis Pamp. is correct for Arenaria lithops of the gardens.

Hi
My apologies for not replying sooner but I have been away.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Graham