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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: steve owen on September 16, 2010, 08:29:05 AM
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My first snowdrop nose showing today in open ground: G. Autumn Beauty. ;D A sign of good things to come. Interestingly this variety sold at RHS Wisley caused comment in the Autumn 2009 thread because of its variability. Anyway, its the first. No sign yet of G. monostictus or earlies such as Barnes.
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Excellent news Steve, we won't have long to wait now for our firsts of the season ;D
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I had a look around my garden yesterday and no sign of any earlies yet. Glad to hear they are on their way though Steve. :)
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This sounds remarkably like those letters to newspapers on the first swallow sightings of spring.
Yes, Steve, G. 'Autumn Beauty' brought some comments last year. Snowdrops sold under the name are not, apparently, all the same.
Paddy
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This snowdrop breeding is getting out of hand. Just finished emptying out pots of seedlings from the last two years ready for repotting. And this is the result.
Bear in mind that this is just the last two years worth of seedlings, from sowings in 2008 and 2009. I weighed the bags all together with the bulbs in and it was over three kilos. There are about 100 bags, and taking the weight of those off, I estimate I have at least a kilo and a half of small one and two year old seedlings there, and easily over a thousand individual little bulbs.
Now to start on the pots of seedlings from earlier years!
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Martin
Sounds like painting the Forth Road Bridge.
Steve
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Here G. peshmenii and G. r.o. are on the way too. Could be a good autumn season this year. The day to the first flower are numbered. 8)
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Martin
Sounds like painting the Forth Road Bridge.
Steve
Worse than that, Steve; it's like painting a Forth Road Bridge that keeps getting longer! At one end of the process, every year there's another batch of seed and another load of seedlings to pot and repot, while at the other end I have to give flowering seedlings plenty of time to show their true worth, and then select them out and start chipping to bulk up the good ones - which starts off yet another propagation chain with cupboards full of chipping bags and pots and pots of chipped offspring!!! It's all getting a little out of hand ;D
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Great work Martin, you are bound to get some worthwhile selections.
Now what will you use for a potting mix?
johnw - 40mm of rain expected today.
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Here G. peshmenii and G. r.o. are on the way too. Could be a good autumn season this year. The day to the first flower are numbered. 8)
Yes G.peshmenii is just showing it's nose here too. Hooray ;D 8) ;D
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Hmmmm. :-\ Maybe I NEED to get myself a G. peshmenii here for next year. Would it survive in the open ground?
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Mine's in a pot in the greenhouse John, it like sun ;)
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Mine's in a pot in the greenhouse John, it likes sun ;)
Oooops! :-\ ::)
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Hi all, a good time is coming. John, you should have a G peshmenii for your autumn-pleasure and your self-conception. Because you are a galanthophile ;). A friend of mine has a slowly but constantly increasing stock outdoor in Berlin. So you should have also no bigger problems.
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My first peshmenii has been in flower all week. Because of the new job I havent been able to have a good look until today
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Mark, You can say a lot, we want to see some pics ;D
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I just took photos but it will be later or tomorrow. Today is our first AGS meeting of the season and I have much to do today
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Mark
Does the new job account for the shades? Or are those sheep I see backgrounding in your new foto?
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Just reactions and a lovely hydrangea
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Great work Martin, you are bound to get some worthwhile selections.
Now what will you use for a potting mix?
I use John Innes no. 2 or no. 3 (depending on the size and age of the bulbs - no. 2 is for "growing on" and no. 3 is for "mature plants") soil-based compost with added pumice grit (2-3mm) and clay "Moler" granules (2-3mm) enough to make the mix very well drained (both the pumice and Moler are great as they add drainage but also hold water, and when they dry out in the summer, they really dry out thoroughly having plenty of air in them, and so suck moisture out of the compost = nice dry, very clean bulbs).
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Here is flowering today my first Gal. peshmenii ::) ...thats all !
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Some flower greetings for all galanthophile. One early type of Galanthus reginae-olgae is blooming !!!
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Hoorah. ;D Thanks Hagan, I needed that.... 8)
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There was a Galanthus on show at the AGS show yesterday. 8)
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John, your pics have high show standard ;)
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John, the last G. reg. olg. you have show seems to have an irregular number/arrangement of outer petals.
Paddy
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Indeed - I always look for the weird flowers in the bunch.
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RUBY`S GEBURTSTAGSBLUMEN, first day in flowering. The pale green tips will go to dark green.
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Oh!! I like this one, Hagen. ;D
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I had heard of "Ruby's Birthday Flowers" - it is pleasing to see them too. 8)
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Hagen, who is the Ruby that the flower is named for? Could it possibly be Ruby Baker?
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Of course, Brian. The name is given with her accordance/acceptance and I hope Ruby has this year some joy for the nice globular and greentipped flower(s) in her own garden.
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How suitable that it has her approval, I am sure it will be a good flower. Could we see a picture later on when the tips have darkened please?
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I suppose the next question should be, is it Ruby's birthday today, or is the Galanthus flowering around her birthday?
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Very nice, Hagen. Is it a reginae-olgae or an autumn-flowering elwesii monostictus?
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Martin, RUBY´S GEBURTSTAGSBLUMEN is a Galanthus peshmenii cultivar.
Brian, here in Germany we say "snowbells", and RUBY´S rings until her birthday comes (end of october). This year the flowers are very early. Here is a pic of the last year.
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Thank you Hagen, that's a great picture.
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A very interesting flower. Are there other cultivars of peshmenii?
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Two more r/os through; Sofia and Cambridge, the latter showing in their pot and also in open ground on the same day. Kastellorhizo should be flowering in a week or so.
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This one has been flowering for a week or so. Unfortunately the label has gone walkabout.
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Gail, your Galanthus should be reginae-olgae.
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Gail, your Galanthus should be reginae-olgae.
I have a feeling that it is a cultivar rather than straight species but memory has gone along with the label....
I have ordinary reginae-olgae elsewhere in the garden but they are not up yet.
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Well I saw G. reginae olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' out in a garden this week if that rings a bell Gail?
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Sorry Gail, I have only CAMBRIDGE but it isn`t blooming now. So I can`t help you with a cultivar name.
Here are two RUBY`S in the late evening sun, today.
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Very nicely shaped petals, much better seen on this photo Hagen.
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Here are G. reginae-olgae and G. peshmenii!!!
But what is what???
;)
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hello,
I think that the plant on right is G. peshmenii
look here:
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/galanthus
cheers
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I agree with Goofy, Hagen here is my G.peshmenii taken yesterday, the marks are variable and mine has two small marks as opposed to your larger mark but the ovary is the same shape.
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Dieter and Brian, yes, the right plant is G. peshmenii. Like Brian told, there are a lot of variations of the sinus mark. This is not a authentic sign for the species. Both plants have not leaves now. And you can`t see optical/visual differences. But you are right.
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three pots of Galanthus peshmenii showing some variation in markings and one of galanthus reginae olgae
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I particularly like the mark on these ones Tony. 8)
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Apologies I have had to modify my post,I had posted two pictures of g9 with one labled g73.
It is now correct.
John you can have one if you would like it,they are just nice snowdrops to me
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Tony, can Galanthus reginae-olgae show us also so much differences in the sign of the sinus like G. peshmenii?
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Hagen I have several pots of r-o in flower and they are all basically the same with no discernable variation.
Perhaps not surprising as they all originate from the same location and I have no experience of any others apart from two of Melvyn's named cultivars.
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Here are two of my reginae-olgae: one in the garden and 'Tilebarn Jamie' in the greenhouse.
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My Regina-olgae from Refuge in Tagetos range,Peloponnese been flowering for last few days.
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Here also Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' in flower in the garden.
In pot : Galanthus peshmenii.
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My Regina-olgae from Refuge in Tagetos range,Peloponnese been flowering for last few days.
Jim mine in reply 49 is from the same place
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Nice to see a start to the snowdrop season. My Tilebarn Jamie and Cambridge are just beginning to show but here is a potful of lovelies from a generous friend (thanks Tony W) with a nice variation in the markings
Gal reg olgae
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I checked the garden and to my surpise the snowdropseason has started here too!
r.o Hyde Lodge is in flower and the ordinary r.o are just popping trough.
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Nice to see a start to the snowdrop season.
Indeed it is, all that waiting is now over ;D 8) ;)
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Galanthus reginae-olgae self seedlings in my meadow.
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Nein Franz, nicht das noch! Ich müh mich hier redlich in Topfen ab, es allen Pflanzen recht zu tun und bei Dir stehn sie einfach auf so der Wiese und gedeihen und gedeihen.
Sorry to all English speaking folks. Franz is able to grow all the fantastic plants "only in his meadow" and I try and try to give them best conditions in pots with fishy results ;) :(.
Here is a nice new autumn galanthus.
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That's lovely Hagen. 8)
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Very nice, Hagen.
It seems there are cyclamen and primroses also in Franz's meadow. I think I too would like to live there.
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'Drop alert, folks..... large pan of G. peshmenii to be seen here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6108.msg169059#msg169059
at the recent Ponteland Show. :D
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Thank you Maggi, it`s the biggest pot I ever saw (with peshmeniis). 8)
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Hagen,
Unfortunately I cannot show the many plants, which died in my meadow!
Very nice Galanthus
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That's a nice un-named one Hagen.
I got two nice surprises yesterday.
1 - I moved a pot of Ensete ventricosum and found a snowdrop struggling to flower underneath it :-[ I think in about 7 days it will perk up and I should have G elwesii Hiemalis grp 'Rainbow Farm Early' being my first flower of the season ;D I also spotted a few other noses breaking through the soil when I started looking.
2 - a copy of the 2010 Daffodil, Snowdrop and Tulip yearbook dropped through my letterbox. 8) I've not had a chance to read it in detail - but on a very quick flick through I spotted the writings of our very own
Hagan, David Q, and Anthony D among many others.
Hagan - a beautiful photograph of G nivalis 'Angelina'. Horrible that someone stole it from Oirlich during the night. Was this the only clump or had it been shared with other gardens before the theft?
Yeah!.... The season begins. ;D
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Hagan - a beautiful photograph of G nivalis 'Angelina'. Horrible that someone stole it from Oirlich during the night.
Is this in the Snowdrop Yearbook John? I have searched in vain on this site.
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Hi Brian
Yes - sorry - it's in the year book.
Here is a picture of it on Gunter's website.
http://www.oirlicher-blumengarten.de/seiten/galanthus/sammlung_galanthus/angelina.html
Lovely looking thing.
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I usually get a cheap offer on the yearbook from the daffodil society, but not this year. Where can we get it from?
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Here is a picture of it on Gunter's website.
http://www.oirlicher-blumengarten.de/seiten/galanthus/sammlung_galanthus/angelina.html
Lovely looking thing.
Wow, indeed it is ;D
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Pains me to say this, but there are some very unsavoury types involved in galanthus mania - there seems to be an awful lot of theft and skulduggery of various sorts - I'm glad that some of you are respectable.
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I usually get a cheap offer on the yearbook from the daffodil society, but not this year. Where can we get it from?
Anne - The 2010 Yearbook is available from the Distributor
John Gibson
Dept M
14 Waverley Road
Kettering
Northants
NN15 6NT
Cost to UK addresses is £9.00 (postage & packing included) - cheque payable to RHS Enterprises Ltd.
Cost to other EU addresses is £9.00 or 15 Euro's (P&P included).
Cost to addresses outside the EU is £13.35 (p&p included).
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John, there is also a fine pic in the yearbook, made by John Finch. I only know one galanthophile John Finch :D.
ANGELINA was`nt stolen during the night. It was stolen about noon.
Maggi, what you say is not a home-made problem of the galanthophile.
My distance to the next galanthophile in my area is more than 150km. 150km of safety for my bulbs ;).
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ANGELINA was`nt stolen during the night. It was stolen about noon.
Nooooo. In broad daylight! That is even more shocking. :o Did someone actually dig it up - or try to 'rip it' out of the ground. I remember a well known grower telling me about a visitor to his garden who 'yanked' a plant thinking they could steal it - but luckily the bulb stayed in the ground - ruined that years enjoyment of the flowers for the garden owner though. >:(
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ANGELINA was`nt stolen during the night. It was stolen about noon.
Nooooo. In broad daylight! That is even more shocking. :o Did someone actually dig it up - or try to 'rip it' out of the ground. I remember a well known grower telling me about a visitor to his garden who 'yanked' a plant thinking they could steal it - but luckily the bulb stayed in the ground - ruined that years enjoyment of the flowers for the garden owner though. >:(
this boils my blood I have had a very large cypripedium stolen from my old front garden and if they had knocked on the door and inquired about it they would of got a piece with out question. >:(
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One of my twin-scaling bulbs was attacked by????. So I was not happy :(. But can you see the five bulbils :)?
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One of my twin-scaling bulbs was attacked by????. So I was not happy :(. But can you see the five bulbils :)?
This illustrates what I've been finding with chipping my snowdrops - that new bulbils do not always need a portion of basal plate to grow from, but that they will also form on the bulb scales well above any basal plate tissue, just as they will with lilies.
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I usually get a cheap offer on the yearbook from the daffodil society, but not this year. Where can we get it from?
Anne - The 2010 Yearbook is available from the Distributor
John Gibson
Dept M
14 Waverley Road
Kettering
Northants
NN15 6NT
Cost to UK addresses is £9.00 (postage & packing included) - cheque payable to RHS Enterprises Ltd.
Cost to other EU addresses is £9.00 or 15 Euro's (P&P included).
Cost to addresses outside the EU is £13.35 (p&p included).
I'm confused. I have just had delivered "Daffodil, Snowdrop and Tulip Yearbook 2010", which was sent, I assume, because of my wee snippet on snowdrops at the EBD. I have also received "daffodils, snowdrops and tulips Yearbook 2009-2010" (the titles and upper and lower case letters are as on the cover in each case) - which I ordered from the RHS. ???
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Anthony the 2009-10 edition was published last year(three white daffs on the cover) this years edition will be 2010-11.
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Anthony the 2009-10 edition was published last year(three white daffs on the cover) this years edition will be 2010-11.
It must just be a change in title as the 2010 edition only says 2010, not 2010-2011 and the bulbs are written singular and not plural. ::)
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I hadn't noticed that. But you've made me look back and it used to be
'DAFFODILS with Snowdrops and Tulips' in 2004-2005 and earlier.
So the snowdrops and tulips have gone up in importance a tad. Maybe one day it will be the SNOWDROP, daffodil and tulip yearbook.... ;D
(The 2009-2010 one is well worth having too Anthony (as are they all 8))).
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(The 2009-2010 one is well worth having too Anthony (as are they all 8))).
You're definitely correct there John. I like Valentin Wijnen's article. 8)
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I usually get a cheap offer on the yearbook from the daffodil society, but not this year. Where can we get it from?
Anne - The 2010 Yearbook is available from the Distributor
John Gibson
Dept M
14 Waverley Road
Kettering
Northants
NN15 6NT
Cost to UK addresses is £9.00 (postage & packing included) - cheque payable to RHS Enterprises Ltd.
Cost to other EU addresses is £9.00 or 15 Euro's (P&P included).
Cost to addresses outside the EU is £13.35 (p&p included).
Thanks, Chris!
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Hello folks,
This is my first mesage on this forum. Excuse me for my Englisch, i'm from Belgium. Two weeks ago, this little group of Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp. reginae-olgae was the start here from te new Galanthusseason. (or is it the latest one). It's a adorable species. On this way i hope to learn something about alpines en bulbes and also try to improve my English ;)
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Welcome AlpineLover (sorry I am not sure of your proper name). I am sure you will enjoy the coming snowdrop season on SRGC.
Lovely photographs. (and very good English already 8))
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Hi Frankie,
Welcome to the forum and a great start to your time here with such excellent plants. Looking forward to hearing from you again and again.
Paddy
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Hey Frankie the Alpinelover, great to see you over here........ I enjoy your photos very much in the VRV. It's very good that you come to share them with us, also! 8)
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Welcome/Willkommen Frankie, I`m a non-English too. I saw your very interesting pics in Your Belgian forum. They look very good. Is Your forum only for Belgians? My English is bad but my Belgian is nothing! ;D Can I have a chance for Your forum too?
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Welcome AlpineLover (sorry I am not sure of your proper name). I am sure you will enjoy the coming snowdrop season on SRGC.
Lovely photographs. (and very good English already 8))
Thanks John for te welcome. Wat about my Englis(c)h, i'm working on it.
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Hi Frankie,
Welcome to the forum and a great start to your time here with such excellent plants. Looking forward to hearing from you again and again.
Paddy
Hello Paddy, thanks, i'll do my best.
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Hey Frankie the Alpinelover, great to see you over here........ I enjoy your photos very much in the VRV. It's very good that you come to share them with us, also! 8)
Hello Maggi, it will be a pleasure to post photo's en messages on this great forum. Thanks for the welcome.
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I posted this message about your photo in the VRV of the cat and the hedgehog having dinner together http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6091.msg168863#msg168863 so some Forumists will know who you are, Frankie! 8)
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Welcome/Willkommen Frankie, I`m a non-English too. I saw your very interesting pics in Your Belgian forum. They look very good. Is Your forum only for Belgians? My English is bad but my Belgian is nothing! ;D Can I have a chance for Your forum too?
Hello Hagen. You are also welcome to the Belgian VRVforum. That's for sure. The most of us will understand your English. No problem at all. Actually, the photos wil speak for them.
Thanks for te welcome. Auf wiedersehen ;)
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I posted this message about your photo in the VRV of the cat and the hedgehog having dinner together http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6091.msg168863#msg168863 so some Forumists will know who you are, Frankie! 8)
Yes Maggi, it's something you don't see every day. Hmmm, a hedgehog, you say, in dutch we say: 'een egel'.
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Welcome to the SRGC forum from me as well Frankie !
You're amongst friends here ! ;D ;D
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Welcome to the SRGC forum from me as well Frankie !
You're amongst friends here ! ;D ;D
Thank you Luc. I'm glad to hear. Schoon forumke dat ze hier hebben. ;D
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Galanthus elwesii Barnes out a week earlier than last year
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Very nice Tony - is that greenhouse grown? My Barnes in the open garden is only 1 inch of leaves so far.
My first flower of the season opened in the sun this afternoon ;D
G. elwesii Hiemalis Group 'Rainbow Farm Early'
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John not in the greenhouse but a frame so quite protected.
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My first flower of the season opened in the sun this afternoon ;D
G. elwesii Hiemalis Group 'Rainbow Farm Early'
Mine still not through John!!
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Mine still not through John!!
Admittedly mine was in a basket pot above ground until a few weeks ago... ;) so that may have advanced it's growing season. But the original write up does suggest this is about the right time for some gardens:
"A very early flowering snowdrop that often starts flowering at the beginning of October. Similar to Barnes but usually flowers much earlier in our garden. Sometimes has 3 leaves and rarely a few green lines at the tips of the outer segments."
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Very nice Tony - is that greenhouse grown? My Barnes in the open garden is only 1 inch of leaves so far.
My first flower of the season opened in the sun this afternoon ;D
G. elwesii Hiemalis Group 'Rainbow Farm Early'
That's an early one, John, here in Belgium, my G. hiemalis is just a few cm high.
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And here in Ireland there is one leaf showing on one G. reginae olgae so I am looking at all these postings and lovely photographs with great envy and longing.
I think I may have to start growing G. reginae olgae under glass. They simply do not do well outdoors here. Irish slugs are particularly fond of these lovely plants.
Paddy
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And here in Ireland there is one leaf showing on one G. reginae olgae so I am looking at all these postings and lovely photographs with great envy and longing.
I think I may have to start growing G. reginae olgae under glass. They simply do not do well outdoors here. Irish slugs are particularly fond of these lovely plants.
Paddy
Many slugs here in Belgium too, Paddy. It's every year the same thing, and G. reginae-olgae subsp. reginae-olgae is a tastefull candy for the slugs.
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Paddy
I learned an expensive lesson planting some r/o in open ground. Slugs scoffed the flowers and then the bulbs disappeared in sympathy. I replaced the bulbs (at even more expense) but planted them in pots, and now have several healthy and flowering r/o varieties. The pots are not in the alpine house but on open staging. I may try putting one or two alpine galanthus varieties into pots next.
Meanwhile noses are up for Barnes, Donald Sims Early, Art Nouveau, Peter Gatehouse, and an early monostictus; also a pot of three Mary Hely-Hutchinson which I was given as allegedly-virused plants last year rather than see them thrown away. Its early growth looks vigorous too, but safety-first, the pot is well away from t'others.
Whilst posting, can anyone suggest where I can obtain some tufa rock in which to try planting some primula allionii, reasonably cheaply? Will the rock sold in garden centres for fishtanks suffice or is that not the real thing?
Steve
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Paddy
I learned an expensive lesson planting some r/o in open ground. Slugs scoffed the flowers and then the bulbs disappeared in sympathy. I replaced the bulbs (at even more expense) but planted them in pots, and now have several healthy and flowering r/o varieties. The pots are not in the alpine house but on open staging. I may try putting one or two alpine galanthus varieties into pots next.
Meanwhile noses are up for Barnes, Donald Sims Early, Art Nouveau, Peter Gatehouse, and an early monostictus; also a pot of three Mary Hely-Hutchinson which I was given as allegedly-virused plants last year rather than see them thrown away. Its early growth looks vigorous too, but safety-first, the pot is well away from t'others.
Whilst posting, can anyone suggest where I can obtain some tufa rock in which to try planting some primula allionii, reasonably cheaply? Will the rock sold in garden centres for fishtanks suffice or is that not the real thing?
Steve
Hello Steve,
I don't know if you sometimes in Belgium, but here in Brugge (near the sea) there is a alpinenursery who has beautiful tufa rocks in all kind of sizes.
Check this out: www.alpenplanten.be
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Steve,
I certainly think I will have to grow G. reginae olgae in pots. They simply will not do in the open ground and it would be a pity to be without them.
Re. G. 'Mary Hely-Hutchinson - can you, please, please put my name on a bulb somewhere down the line. It's an Irish one but simply not available here, nor it is for sale anywhere that I know of.
Paddy
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Dunblane is the slug centre of the universe yet my reginae-olgae have been flowering away for nearly a month with no addition of slug pellets. Too many other things for them to eat.
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Hi Steve
Whenever I have bought tufa it has been from http://www.rotherview.com/ - they don't always have it in stock though so I would suggest a phone call before visiting.
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Hi Alpinelover and John
Thanks v much for the pointers re tufa. Paddy, I've PM-d to you.
Steve
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Dunblane is the slug centre of the universe yet my reginae-olgae have been flowering away for nearly a month with no addition of slug pellets. Too many other things for them to eat.
I cannot explain it, Anthony, but they don't do well here at all and, as I said, the first shoot is only now peeping above ground. Lesley told me he has the same experience in west Cork.
Any suggestions on an explanation, anybody?
Many thanks, Steve.
Paddy
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It's the same in Kent for R-O's Paddy - only just through the ground in my garden.
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It's the same in Kent for R-O's Paddy - only just through the ground in my garden.
Now, I feel a little less deprived. Paddy
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I suppose it's all to do with when autumn arrives? First weekend in August is regarded as the end of summer here in Dunblane, so after that it is autumn. Our spring and summer flowers are out later and our autumn flowers are out earlier.
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It's the same in Kent for R-O's Paddy - only just through the ground in my garden.
Now, I feel a little less deprived. Paddy
...and I won't even mention my cold garden :-\
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as they start growing when the temperature goes down and rains are starting,it is likely they flower early in colder aerea`s.In my Dutch garden I only have buds on the r-o and Barnes.Our summer last longer ;D ;D ;D
here are mine:
reginae-olgae ro
Autumn Beauty
Hiemalis Barnes
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That sounds like a sensible explanation, Anthony. We certainly have warmer temperatures for longer than you. Our first frost was on Monday last so the snowdrops will not have had the cold needed to prompt them into growth. Patience is needed.
Paddy
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Well I've had the day out in the garden tidying up,nice bonfire also,but........................................................No signs of any yet :(
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A week ago I had a small patch of reginae-olgae buds. When I looked
for flowers, there was only one - not a remnant of the others. I went
out with a flashlight at night and there was a giant slug - too big to
stomp, so it got cut in half.
I don't usually have trouble with slugs in the fall as it is usually still dry,
but the rains came early.
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Barnes, Athenae and Hollis all now flowering.
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"Peter Gatehouse" just coming into flower as the reginae olgae are going over. This, I think, is as early as "Peter" has ever flowered for me. "Peter Gatehouse" is an excellent early elwesii, distinguished by the fullness of the green markings on the inner petals.
The spot is at the base of a climbing hydrangea, dry and shaded in summer but plenty of light in winter. In my experience the best spot in the garden for autumn snowdrops is somewhere sufficiently dry that nothing much grows in summer so nothing to tempt the slugs in that direction but somewhere that is warm and sunny in winter, underneath a deciduous shrub for example. It's a fine balancing act. I had a nice clump of reginae olgae that originally did very well under my new wisteria but are now gradually dying out as the wisteria matures. If I was in Ireland I would try then on a rockery or somewhere with very fierce drainage.
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Hmm, that wasn't a very good last photograph, although it sets the overall scene. Here is a (better) close-up.
Maybe some of the others can do a bit more show-and-tell? Steve has snowdrops in flower I have never heard of; I'd love to see what they look like.
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Alan,
Re you comment on positioning G. reg. olg. in Ireland: Here I have a few cultivars in a raised bed which originally had a very gritty mix used to fill it and when I was planting the bulbs I extra grit in the planting area and also placed the bulbs on a layer of sharp sand and grit. G. reg. olg. 'Tilebarn Jamie' has a couple of shoots above ground now. I really don't think the Irish climate suits them.
Certainly very early to have 'Peter Gatehouse' in flower.
Paddy
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While out weeding today I saw my elwesii monostictus without a sinus notch are above ground and ... x Allenii ... and Iris Katharine Hodgkin
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A week ago I had a small patch of reginae-olgae buds. When I looked
for flowers, there was only one - not a remnant of the others. I went
out with a flashlight at night and there was a giant slug - too big to
stomp, so it got cut in half.
I don't usually have trouble with slugs in the fall as it is usually still dry,
but the rains came early.
It seems the slugs in my region have a different taste - no problems with
them - I hope this will continue!
Gerd
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The slugs and snails in my garden are always well fed
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I really don't think the Irish climate suits them.
In my garden they like a warm sunny spot that the slugs don't frequent. It mustn't be bone dry, but I don't think you do bone dry in Ireland! Surely the only significant difference between the Irish climate and the Cambridgeshire climate is that you get vastly more rainfall than we do.
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A couple from me.
G RO Cambridge and G elwesi Barnes
Strangely Cambridge doesn't attract the slugs whereas Tilebarn Jamie positively attracts them and the slugs eat off the flowers underground before I get a chance to see them
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I thought I had lost 'Tilebarn Jamie' - but this afternoon I have spotted the sad remnants of some leaves and stems above the soil >:( - as in 1cm remaining above ground. Grrrrrrr! >:(
Definitely a slug magnet in this garden!
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Nearly finished repotting all my seedlings, previous years' chipped bulbs, etc. Now to start on this year's chips - starting to get urgent as some of the earliest ones are starting to make roots in the bags (not a problem if handled carefully, but doesn't make potting any easier!) I just got all the bags out to look for those with roots and counted 98 bags, so just short of the 100 I thought I'd done.
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You're going to need a bigger garden Martin! :o
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You're going to need a bigger garden Martin! :o
Exactly what I was just thinking!
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You're going to need a bigger garden Martin! :o
Exactly what I was just thinking!
Can you not find a local stately home that you can swap residence with? ;) ;D
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Martin, just astonished at the scale of what you are doing (no pun intended). Not just the growing room needed but it must take huge amounts of time.
Alan, was it Athenae and Hollis you wanted pics of? (plenty of Barnes pics have been posted). Wet and grey here today, but at the first sunshine this week I'll get the camera out and post the pics. My Peter Gatehouse wants a week still to flower but looks to have clumped up well since last year.
Further exploration in the (wet) garden today revealed Early to Rize in flower and also Remember Remember, for once living up to its name. I'm determined to grow a well-behaved non-sprawling clump of R-R even if it means burying the bulbs 4" deep.
Picked the grapes today - 52 lbs, a record. When the harvest is this quantity, I tread them the traditional way, bare feet. Can't beat squidgy grapes between the toes.... ;D
Maggie, could you maybe PM me with the names of those who don't want their snowdrop lists mentioned on the Forum? Don't want to upset anybody.
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Steve, I think it would be best to check with anyone who's list you have to see what their attitude is.
If someone wants to keep their list private, feel they have e nough customers already and does not want to risk being approached for a list by 'undesirables', then I think it is up to them to sort that out. :-X
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Great work Martin, there appears to much more ahead.
First one out - no sun in sight - in a pot - G. reginae-olgae 'Tilebar Jamie'.
johnw
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Galanthus reginae olgae is not quite finished blooming, or there is Galanthus hiemalis.
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So glad to hear you are still potting up chips, Martin. I just did the last of mine and was worried I was too late. What is your experience of success rates this late? I have to confess that I chipped too late this year so the bulbils aren't as big as I would like.
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Alan, was it Athenae and Hollis you wanted pics of?
Yes please.
Barnes I have heard of; in fact I was growing it until the bulbs got attacked last year. I have yet to see if any survived; my version of Barnes never emerges this early.
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So glad to hear you are still potting up chips, Martin. I just did the last of mine and was worried I was too late. What is your experience of success rates this late? I have to confess that I chipped too late this year so the bulbils aren't as big as I would like.
I think it's okay to chip any time the bulb is dormant, right up till rooting starts. I once chipped some bulbs in October as an experiment, and by February they'd caught up with those chipped in June/July.
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Glad to hear it!
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So glad to hear you are still potting up chips, Martin. I just did the last of mine and was worried I was too late. What is your experience of success rates this late? I have to confess that I chipped too late this year so the bulbils aren't as big as I would like.
I think it's okay to chip any time the bulb is dormant, right up till rooting starts. I once chipped some bulbs in October as an experiment, and by February they'd caught up with those chipped in June/July.
...and I am just about to pot up this years chips, which were done rather late and are now ready to take out of their bags. Last years are beginning to poke their noses through in their pots, so I feel as though I really am late :-[
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Join our club, Brian!
Here are 4 from my bulb house:
Galanthus peshmenii, and G. reginae-olgae Sofia, Eleni and Tilebarn Jamie.
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Very nice plants, Annew, a dash sun today opened the flowers of Galanthus hiemalis.
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Frankie those are good looking G. elwesii hiemalis
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have to tell everybody, GRO has firstly flowered in UKRAINE just now! There are some clumps from Wim Granneman (Netherland - many thanks him!) growing from April 2010 in Donetsk (SE Ukraine) and in Kiev BG (C Ukraine). It blooms at us finaly!!!! Hope this species overwinter well in our far not Mediterranian climate..... and I saw this morning some slugs around Kiev clump, but they don't eat them (yet?? :-X )
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I too like the shape of your flowers Frankie.
Dimitri, I hope you collected some of those lovely looking walnuts. Nice to see you face in with the flowers.
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Well done, Dima.
Your face reminds me that I still owe you a reply:
My reg-olg vernalis had the same fate as yours :'(
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Conversely, John, I've artfully and with disdain scattered the walnuts and chestnuts (which I bravely repulsed in rooks before of course) to heighten the photographic eFFFect ;D
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Hi Thomy! it is pity to hear...... :'(
any case I've smthng to post you next year from me! ;) not this fall - very busy jobbing :P just returned from Moscow conferencies where I met simultaneously with advanced horticulture bohemia (Olga and others) ;D
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Memo to self: "must listen to my snowdrops tonight". ;D
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Thanks Mark en Kent, I like them to.
Very nice and atmospheric photos, Oakland!
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Great autumn photos Dima 8)
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Thanks, guys! It's really warm and wonderful current fall in Ukraine allowing drops to bloom till now and lasting crocus flowering. 8)
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Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Sofia' from Melvyn.
A magnificent plant with huge flowers,the photographs do not do it justice.
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I wish my Sofia was as good. It's flowered for the second time since 2007 but only 7cm high. I must move it or chip it
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Mark I got it from Melvyn as a single bulb in July 2008. It seems very robust and has multiplied well.
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Hi Tony, SOFIA looks really very big. How high are they?
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Hagen they are 24 cm high and each flower is 6.5 cm across
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Fantastic plants Tony!
Here also the first autumn flowering Galanthus have started.
First two G. peshmenii and a few G. reginae - olgae. As I love 'Greendrops' I adore especially last one given to me by a very generous friend from the states last year.
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wolf whistle at G.r-o - A.K.1.jpg :o
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Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Sofia' from Melvyn.
A magnificent plant with huge flowers,the photographs do not do it justice.
Tony, you will not be surprised to know that I think it is a good plant but it is a real pleasure to see it being well grown.
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In Corfu last week the Cyclamen and Galanthus were superb, the following pictures show some of the variation encountered.
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Hans, I can see why you like that last one. She is beautiful.
Melvyn - very interesting to see the pictures in the wild. I rather like the paleness of that last one. 8)
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I have to agree with John on that. Very nice to see some more of the variations on Corfu after your excellent talk at the Gala Melvyn, I particularly like the shape of 8 and the pallour of 10.
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A lovely selection... I like the perfect mark on the first one.
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A lovely selection... I like the perfect mark on the first one.
careful Maggi you are teetering on the precipice ;D ::) ;D
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A lovely selection... I like the perfect mark on the first one.
careful Maggi you are teetering on the precipice ;D ::) ;D
...and looking down into the darkest abyss, Brian.... I know, I know.... and I am afraid.
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I have to agree with John on that. Very nice to see some more of the variations on Corfu after your excellent talk at the Gala Melvyn, I particularly like the shape of 8 and the pallour of 10.
Thank you Brian for your kind remarks about my talk at the Gala, perhaps I should now offer to do an update on Corfu, including the latest on Hoppy the dog, assuming that is that you remember that part of the talk? several people seem to remember that more than the details of the snowdrops!
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I think Hoppy has gained a certain notoriety in snowdrop circles Melvyn ;D ;D
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I think Hoppy has gained a certain notoriety in snowdrop circles Melvyn ;D ;D
The mind boggles.... let me guess..... Hoppy is a three-legged dog who can pinpoint super plants in the same way a truffle hound finds rare fungi??????? ;D
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I was with Melvyn at the time and recall the story of hoppy as it was yesterday, it is a wonderful story with a happy ending but it should be shared with everyone so please Melvyn tell it again from the start and with the latest update I am sure everyone would love to hear it, not least my wife who longs to meet the dog in person.
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Alle Achtung Hans, was so im Warmen doch für eine Menge Schneeglöckchen wachsen. Deine Bilder sind eine Freude.
Melvyn, thank you for the big gallery of different G r-o. I learnt this time, our garden could have much more Autumn galanthus colors and shapes. It is very interesting, because most of the Galanthus species are able to create the same differences in color and shape.
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Melvyn very fine pics of G. reginae - olgae, I also like especially last one.
Have started to grow different species from seeds and I am very curios if they will be as variable.
Thanks Mark and John for your comments.
Hagen, danke dir ganz herzlich, da kommt noch was nach. ;)
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In Corfu last week the Cyclamen and Galanthus were superb, the following pictures show some of the variation encountered.
Its great to see the normal variation within a species in the wild. Here is G. R-O 'Alex Duguid' in my greenhouse at the moment. And an early G monostictus in the open just reminding me to get onto cutting back herbaceous stuff.
At this time of year slugs lurking under dying herbaceous are terrible for eating the buds of my G. R-O,s .
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Hoorah. Everyone is reappearing. 8) Snowdrop season must almost be upon us. ;D
Hi Jo.
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By coincidence I phoned Jo just as she was posting
I like the shape of the elwesii
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Very cold in the garden with leaden sky and nippy wind; 7 degrees. But the snowdrops like it; 82 varieties through on roll-call today with eight flowering excluding the pots.
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82 varieties through on roll-call today
:o :o :o
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It does seem to have been an early start to the 'noses' appearing above ground this year. I've been moaning/worrying to Brian (or is that Brain ;D) for a few weeks now about just how many have appeared above ground - some far more advanced than I would like for early November! :-\
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Will any of you with these early appearing galanthus noses take protective action for them over the winter?
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Will any of you with these early appearing galanthus noses take protective action for them over the winter?
Maggie you ask the question i was just as i was going too,some of my noses are an inch above the soil do i just leave them and not panic,it's my first year and i really don't want to damage any of them.
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I'm pretending the 'noses' are not there yet... but I am very confident all will be OK 8) - if a little off time? :-\
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Will any of you with these early appearing galanthus noses take protective action for them over the winter?
Maggi, agricultural fleece blows off towards the coast ....ditto straw mulch.....and that nice George Osbourne told us we all had to tighten our belts, and I already have an electric heater in the alpine house for the primula allionii .... so hot water bottles for early snowdrops will have to wait till next year!"
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I see the difficulties, Steve, even without following government advice and bankrupting yourself. :o
Problem with most mulches would be the danger of the mulch providing a cosy hotel for slugs and snails to attack the noses in secret. Luckily our bulbs are pretty restrained about showing themselves in Aberdeen ( tho' I've seen Leucojum noses) so I really don't know what the chances of severe damage from prolonged frost would be on the snowdrops. Has anyone got a very cold garden where the 'drops are foolish enough to show early and can report on their survival?
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cutting back perennials today I see not all slugs are going for their alternative blue food
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( tho' I've seen Leucojum noses) so I really don't know what the chances of severe damage from prolonged frost would be on the snowdrops. Has anyone got a very cold garden where the 'drops are foolish enough to show early and can report on their survival?
Maggi - Thinking back to extremely cold snowless winter predeeded by long mild autumns or wintesr that didn't start until February Leucojum and Galanthus noses do not get clipped here if they come up partially in the autumn. This experience does not include reginae-olgae which might fully leaf (???) and the more tender Leucojum species of which I have no experience other than in pots in the greenhouse. potted Galanthus seem to leaf more than planted ones and these too seem okay if heeled in woodchips. Tulip tips can get tip-nipped and generally it is recommended to plant new tulips as late in the autumn as is possible, about now. Ipheions are up already, Rolf Fiedler has little vigour here and getting badly nipped may explain this, the others strangely are okay after nipping.
johnw - still raining heavily, on our way to 25cm since Friday.
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Yes John, the autumn 'drops with more leaves would be at greater risk. And tulips are much more tender but most keep their heads down here till quite late most years. Ipheions are prone to early leaf, none more so than I.'Alberto Castillo' but he is really tough.
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Yes John, the autumn 'drops with more leaves would be at greater risk. And tulips are much more tender but most keep their heads down here till quite late most years. Ipheions are prone to early leaf, none more so than I.'Alberto Castillo' but he is really tough.
Maggi
We're hoping Alberto will be a better bet than the others.
By the way I should add that by spring on the autumn crocus and a few other bulbs we often see a difference in the green in the above ground winter leaf sections compared to the undeveloped below ground winter parts. I can't say there is any impairment.
johnw
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Thanks everybody for the lovely pictures of the early flowering snowdrops posted.
You might like to see a photo of a very early flowering form of G. elwesii var. elwesii. We have found that it has flowered in November for the past 3 years. The photo shown was taken on 5/11/ this year. The outer segments are very long, ~33mm.
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Interesting, Michael....and even without your note about the length of the outer segments it is quite clear that the flower is very long and slender.
A sort of supermodel of snowies! ;)
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Alan, was it Athenae and Hollis you wanted pics of?
Yes please.
Alan
Despairing of enough warm sunshine to fully open the flowers, I brought them inside to photograph. Here are (if my new laptop has allowed me to re-size correctly) are Athenae, Hollis, Remember Remember, and Rizehensis Early to Rize, all currently in flower. Imminent sunshine is now going to tempt me out into the garden!
Steve
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A lovely selection, Steve, and all in remarkable good condition given the recent inclement weather.
Paddy
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Nice to see the earlies, my 'Remember, Remember' is refusing to open in the garden Steve, I think it ought to be 'Forgot Forgot' 8)
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I know Melvyn has shown us the wonderful reginae-olgae 'Fotini' before - but as I was lucky enough to be invited to Melvyn's for soup and snowdrops yesterday I thought another picture of his wonderful virescent snowdrop wouldn't go amiss on here. 8)
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Certainly not, John. It's a lovely snowdrop and great to see a photograph.
Paddy
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Absolutely stunning ;D ;D
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For the record, John Foster has named the early elwesii I posted a picture of a few days ago, G. elwesii 'Advent'.
It will be in the next snowdrop book as it has Matt's seal of approval.
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Wonderful Galanthus John !
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John, thank you for this green and good omen of the coming season. Yes I know, FOTINI is a Autumn galanthus, but who has already such wonderful bulb???
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John did you take only one photo?
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John did you take only one photo?
I took lots Mark - but I am breaking in a new camera that I got a couple of weeks ago, so most were fit for the bin! :-\
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what camera did you buy?
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wow ;D what a wonderful flower
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what camera did you buy?
Hi Mark
I went for a finepix HS10 as I have always had finepix so know a lot of the settings - but I really wanted the simple 30x optical zoom for Madeira.
As you have asked if there were any more pics - this not a great pic but as it is of the 4 petalled R. O. named 'Teresa' 'Tessera' I have posted it. (EDIT: sorry, spelt the name wrong originally)
My photo is really not worth posting - but I've posted it anyway to keep the Galanthus area active. :)
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Hi John
The pic is fine but could you clarify the spelling of this variety? Thanks
Steve
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Not worth posting! It's an excellent photo
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Hi John
The pic is fine but could you clarify the spelling of this variety? Thanks
Steve
Steve :
the name of this plant is "Tessera" .....this is greek language and means : "four"
Hans
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John - a slip of the pen here, this is G. reginae-olgae 'Tessera' - Melvyn Jope posted photo's & a brief note in 2009 see http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7.msg116509#msg116509
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Thanks Hans and Chris.
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It looks like you have already mastered your new camera, John!
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Sorry Steve - I spelt it wrong in the text (did get it right on the photo ;)).
Thanks Mark and Anne - the photos that worked were more luck than any skill with the camera on my part. Lots of practice still required.
I don't grow many reginae-olgae as I don't think they like my garden - I did, however, come home from Melvyn's with a couple of his 'chuck outs' - 2 of his seedling grown reginae-olgae that haven't passed his exacting standards - that I am going to try in a different part of my garden to see how they do.
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this came as Galanthus reginae olgae ssp vernalis from Greece but seems much the same as the rest of r-o. Flowering three weeks later than last year
Galanthus reginae olgae ssp vernalis
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John,
Melvyn certainly seems to have high standards as the snowdrop you show is a lovely flower with particularly elegant outer segments and a dainty inner mark. A nice snowdrop to have. I suppose I can understand that Melvyn might not see it as worthy of naming but it is a nice snowdrop nonetheless.
And nicely photographed.
Paddy
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John, thanks a lot for showing Melvyns outstanding selections!
Here some from spain, the autumnflowering species do much better than the spring flowering ones, but they could bulk up quicker.
While G. peshmenii and G. reginae-olgae are nearly over, G. elwesii monostictus and G. cilicicus start to flower.
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Lovely Hans, I especially like your G. monostictus with green on the outers.
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Lovely Hans, I especially like your G. monostictus with green on the outers.
I agree lovely
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Hans - just to let you know that the lovely green tipped G. reginae-olgae that you posted a few weeks ago at
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6017.0;attach=252457;image
and which was much admired by Forumists, has now been formally named G. reginae-olgae 'Anmarie Kee'
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Hans - just to let you know that the lovely green tipped G. reginae-olgae that you posted a few weeks ago at
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6017.0;attach=252457;image
and which was much admired by Forumists, has now been formally named G. reginae-olgae 'Anmarie Kee'
That's the last photo in Hans A's message here on page 11 of this thread:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6017.msg171724#msg171724
- very nice 'drop, introduced and named by a Forumist for his wife. :)
I'll repeat Hans' pic here.....
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Hans - you have really cheered a cold Sunday afternoon. Wonderful pictures of some lovely flowers. 8)
I too particularly like the green tipped monostictus and reginae-olgae 'Anmarie Kee'. I definitely seem to be developing a liking for snowdrops with a bit of green on the outside. :)
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I have to preface my comments by stating that I'm not a serious Galantophile. I have thousands of of Galanthus Elwesii var. monostictus scattered around my property. They were here when I arrived twenty years ago. Of note is that this part of Northern New Jersey was known as the English Neighborhood. It is well planted with Snowdrops and Fagus sylvatica with many the trees being over one hundred years old.
My Galanthus doesn't match the one illustrated by Hans.
I have attached a link to an image. In John Grimshaw's book he has an image of the Snowdrop on page 36.
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Galanthus
My bulbs flower in Feb/March.
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The majority of my Galanthus reginae-olgae have now finished flowering but there are still a few of interest like this flower with five petals which I think looks surprisingly elegant.
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Wow Melvyn, another beauty! :o
Hans - just to let you know that the lovely green tipped G. reginae-olgae that you posted a few weeks ago at
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6017.0;attach=252457;image
and which was much admired by Forumists, has now been formally named G. reginae-olgae 'Anmarie Kee'
Thanks a lot for the information Chris - glad to hear this outstanding Galanthus reginae-olgae has been formally named, congratulations to the breeder!
Thanks for the comments about the green tipped monostictus, Arnold, I think apart of the green tips it is a typical monostictus - some might have a more round appearance.
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I have thousands of of Galanthus Elwesii var. monostictus scattered around my property.
When you see a large population of naturalised snowdrops they may be very similar or very diverse in their characteristics. Elwesii generally set seed quite readily so I would expect a lot of diversity. If you have a spare few hours when they are in flower, take a close look. You may well find that some are not monostictus and have two marks on the inner petals. Some might have more than three outer petals, or you might find double forms. You even might find a few with green markings on the outer petals like the ones Hans showed.
My bulbs flower in Feb/March.
In the UK most snowdrops flower in February but we have cultivars of elwesii that come into flower in November, December, January and February.
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Last year I had Galanthus elwesii heimalis 'Barnes' as a clump in the front garden and a single bulb in the back. It was noticeable that the single bulb flowered earlier than the clump. I gave that bulb to a friend down South and it has flowered. The clump in the front has just started to show through the ground.
Note to self, move 'Barnes' into the sun for an early flower!
Some people never learn ::) ::)
I also have been given a G.nivalis 'Alice's Late' which is well up, and they say I'm confused ???
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Brian - did you get all of your bulbs of 'Barnes' from the same source? There does seem to be (at least) two versions in circulation, one of which can be up to a month later than the other.
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You'll be wanting it back then Brian ;) ;D
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Thanks for that information Chris, no they weren't from the same source, which means that I have given away my early flowerer! I shall still move them into the sun next year in the hope that they will be a little earlier. I hadn't realised there was more than one strain of 'Barnes' available. Having read the book now do you think that mean that I may have 'Earliest of All' rather than 'Barnes'?
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You'll be wanting it back then Brian ;) ;D
You enjoy it while you can John ;)
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I also have been given a G.nivalis 'Alice's Late' which is well up, and they say I'm confused ???
Brian
No sign of my Alice's Late, so maybe yours is Alice Not-so-Late or mine is Alice's Late Late.
Steve
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I also have been given a G.nivalis 'Alice's Late' which is well up, and they say I'm confused ???
Brian
No sign of my Alice's Late, so maybe yours is Alice Not-so-Late or mine is Alice's Late Late.
Steve
Perhaps it is just very late from last year ;D
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Here's a pot of Mary Hely-Hutchinson. Possibly virused - but flowering well and looking healthy to me.
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wow, a pot full! How did you manage that? Right place at the right time? and I'll add I'm green with envy
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Steve,
Many thanks for posting. Good to see this Irish snowdrop and I think photographs of it are all I will see for some years as it has a very restricted circulation.
Paddy
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Stever,
Many thanks for posting. Good to see this Irish snowdrop and I think photographs of it are all I will see for some years as it has a very restricted circulation.
Paddy
Paddy can i ask why?is she not a good doer.
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Stever,
Many thanks for posting. Good to see this Irish snowdrop and I think photographs of it are all I will see for some years as it has a very restricted circulation.
Paddy
Paddy can i ask why?is she not a good doer.
Davey,
I suppose it is purely for its Irish origins. National pride forgives many faults!
Have you grown it? Just asking so I can come, beat you up and run off with it.
Paddy
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Paddy
As you know from some of my previous posts, I am not inclined to grow scarce varieties into big clumps and keep it to myself. If Mary H-H originates in Ireland then I will be pleased to help it to return and circulate there ASAP.
Steve
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steve you can't see me but i applaud you,that's really nice.
Paddy you fair made me laugh it's not one i have got so i can sleep safely lol
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Steve,
This snowdrop came originally from a Mrs. Mary Hely-Hutchinson, Newport House, Malahide, Dublin. She gave them to Robin Hall (or more probably to his mother, Cicely Hall) of Primrose Hill, Lucan, Co. Dublin and it was subsequently named by him. This was around the late 1980s to the best of my knowledge.
It has not had a widespread circulation to date.
Should you ever decide to divide your clump - when there are plenty and you feel the need to do so - then I would be delighted to have one. It will end up as part of a reference collection of Irish snowdrops at Altamont Gardens, Co. Carlow.
Many thanks, Paddy
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Davey,
Live in fear!!!
And, you should not be surprised by Steve's kind offer. He is one of many kind snowdrop people on this forum.
Paddy
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Nice to see a picture of plicatus 'Mary Hely-Hutchinson' Steve. 8) I had heard of this early flowering plicatus before but had never seen it. Thank you.
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Yes, is 'Mary Hely-Hutchinson' the earliest flowering plicatus?
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Alan
It's certainly my earliest plicatus.
Steve
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This week at the Weekly Lisse Show were several entries with snowdrops.
I believe this one was not shown here on the Forum before, so some pictures here as well.
Galanthus elwesii Else Grollenberg
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Hello Luit, good light, good photo, good plant. Here is a near neighbour of ELSE GROLLENBERG. It is NADELSTREIFENSPITZEN. No good light in a tunnel full of snow outside.
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Galanthus elwesii Else Grollenberg
Luit - I knew of this snowdrop, but had not realised that it had green on the outers - many thanks for posting these photo's.
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NADELSTREIFENSPITZEN
Hagen - many thanks for posting this photo - is this one of your own discoveries?
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Two more snowdrops that I haven't seen before, is there no end to this excitement 8)
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Hello Luit, good light, good photo, good plant. Here is a near neighbour of ELSE GROLLENBERG. It is NADELSTREIFENSPITZEN. No good light in a tunnel full of snow outside.
NADELSTREIFENSPITZEN would be PinstripeLace in English.... nice name!
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The Colesbourne snowdrop sales list for 2011 is online.... no mail order, of course, but reserve for collection.....
http://www.snowdrop.org.uk/
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Two more snowdrops that I haven't seen before, is there no end to this excitement 8)
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What is the inner like on NADELSTREIFENSPITZEN please Hagen?
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excitement ??? ??? ::)
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The Colesbourne snowdrop sales list for 2011 is online.... no mail order, of course, but reserve for collection.....
http://www.snowdrop.org.uk/
Diggory on the list but no mailorder :'(
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I've split off further posts from December into Winter 2010..... just to get us ready for January 2011!
Most posts from 1st December on are here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6368.0
See that thread from here for latest posts from day of split.... 15th December http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6368.msg176212#msg176212