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Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 10, 2010, 08:40:44 AM
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Just as a "fix" for Pleione lovers who have been left on their hunger for the last few months, I'll post some pictures taken earlier this year, when I had the opportunity for a blitz-visit to Ian Butterfield's Yaffles nursery where he grows his magic Pleione.
There were so many and there was so little time, that alas, I missed quite a lot of names - another lot of the new hybrids that were flowering for the first time were still without name, so please excuse me for these "unnamed" beauties, but at least you can still admire the enormous range of colours and -combinations that are now being grown.
Here we go :
Pictures 1 to 6 are Pleione I failed to note the name of.
7 and 8 were as yet unnamed
9) Pleione eastfield "Purple emperor'
10) Pleione edgecombe "Bat Hawk"
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Some more :
1) Pl. harlequin "Norman"
2) Pleione "Jake Butterfield"
3) Pleione katmai "Strawberry fields"
4) Pleione magelik "Black..." (sorry, missed the rest of the name... :'()
.... now ID'd by Maren as Pleione Mageik 'Black Kite'
5) Pl. salek "Eagle Owl"
6) Pl. sharon ann winter
7) Pl. sharon ann winter
8 ) Pl. zeus weinstein "Egret" - sorry, the picture is blurry, but I still wanted to show it because it is so totally different from the other clones of zeus weinstein.
9) Pl. leda - a trayfull, showing the enormous variation in this cross
10) Pl. krakatoa "Wheatear" - a trayfull of this one clone of krakatoa that also is a very variabe cross
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As a closing statement of this little thread, just two pictures of part of the greenhouses...
::) ::)
You will agree, I didn't photograph all of the Pleione... ;D
1) is a general view of the greenhouse
2) is part of the bench, where all the newest crosses are flowering for the first time
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Wow! What a great surprise for today..... an out of season Pleione "fix" 8)
Pleione edgecombe 'Bat Hawk' is really lovely, that colour leaps out at me.
Thanks, Luc! :-*
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You're welcome Maggi !
I hope the poor Pleione lovers, deprived of their favourite plants over the last few months, will enjoy this "fix". I had saved it for a rainy day... :D
I hope I have'nt caught them off garde and out of season so that they don't miss it.
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I really enjoy this fix - especially as I happened to receive Ian Butterfield's new catalogue via mail yesterday. :D
All of these Pleiones are great but I'm in love with Salek 'Eagle Owl' and Edgecombe 'Bat Hawk'. Thank you, Luc!
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Hi Luc,
Amazing collection of Ian's hybrids. I've visited him every spring since 2005.
So, I'm able to establish these several Ian's P. ...xyz from your first band:
Pic. 2 = P. Edgecombe
Pic. 3 = P. Leda 'Golden Pipit'
Pic. 4 = P. Makian 'Jeeny'
Pic. 5 = P. Soufiere
Pic. 6 = P. Makia x P. Mageik
Pic. 7 = P. Caroli x P. Marion Johnson
Karel.
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Thank you very much Karel, great to have some more names.
Actually, I think we might have visited Ian on the very same day last Spring as he told me he was expecting another visitor from the Czech republic later in the day..... :D
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Here I add better photo of Ian's P. Zeus Weinstein 'Egret'.
This year I've made my own re-make of Zeus Weinstein used white P. formosana to obtain fully yellow flower. So I'll see ... ;D
K.
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A very pleasant surprise Luc :D
Zeus Weinstein 'Egret' would find a good home with me.
How long is it until Spring????
Graham
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Very nice pictures Luc.
Thanks.
It is wonderful to see all those flowers. Especialy at the start of autum. The time of year that we see the bulbs showing the first new buds for next spring.
Greetings.
Pieter
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Thanks very much Luc. What an incredible sight :o
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Luc, what a lovely idea, you're right, can't wait to get going again. Look what I saw yesterday at the AGS Chiltern Branch Conference.
I immediately identified it as Pleione chlorophytum, na, just kidding, it was in fact a variegated form of Pln Captain Hook, exhibited by, guess who, Ian Butterfield. When I collared him about it, he gave his usual mischievous smile and said that that was just one of his variegated clones.
He depressed me very deeply the other day when he picked up a pot containing about 4 Pleione maculata, lifting it by a leaf. What a way to show that there is a fantastic root system. Oh dear.
Thank you Luc, I believe another visit is indicated.
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Yes Maren, that is typical Ian ;D ;D
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Great to know everybody enjoyed this "Pleione fix" !
Maren, you're absolutely right, more visits to Ian's treasure house are indicated... although very bad for a Pleione addict's financial situation.... ;D ;D ;)
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It is worth mentioning that Ian says this variegated clone of Captain Hook is not stable - some years it comes variegated but other years the leaves are plain green. I have occasionally had variegated seedlings arise in my breeding programme, but they are often weak and don't live long or unstable and unreliable in producing their variegation just like this Captain Hook of Ians. At present, as a result, I have just one tiny variegated bulb on its last legs and not expected to last the season, and a clone of P. scopulorum that sometimes produces leaves with a single white stripe down the leaf.
Paul
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Hi Paul,
thank you for pointing that out. I bought a variegated form of formosana some years ago and they did just what you said. I thought it was due to my bad cultivation. Feel a bit better now. Cheers.
How are your pleiones doing? I hope they are in fine fettle. Mine just seem to want to go on and on. A late season, I expect. I have had to take some out of their pots because the new bulbs were getting too big for them and the pots were being deformed. Bit of a nuisance but good news all the same. :)
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Hi Luc,
Pleione magelik "Black..." (sorry, missed the rest of the name... :'()
this is called Pleione Mageik 'Black Kite'.
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Thanks for pointing that out Maren - it really could have been named "black magic" : it's superb !
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prova
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Scusi?
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Hi,
just passed Ian' nursery and took a rather inferior pic of Pln. scopulorum, two flowers on one bulb and another one behind, and losts of buds showing. Droooool.
And he also showed me some enviable pots and bowls of Pln maculata, one in flower and the others budding nicely. He grows these in a room upstairs all year round. What a plantsman!!
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I'm sorry Maren to disappoint you, but that is P. saxicola not P. scopulorum. However, very nice!!!
Karel.
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Simple slip of the tongue I think by Maren.
Have done the same on many occasions writing labels for these two.
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Pln saxicola indeed, slip of the tongue (or brain), sorry, my mind was elsewhere, thanks for putting it right. ;) :)
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Ian brought a bowl of outstanding beauty to an orchid society meeting last Thursday, which prompted me to pop in to take another look and a photo. To my delight, he brought along two more bowls, equally stunning. These plants are natural and artificial hybrids; all have Pln maculata in them and therefore they require warmer temperatures than your 'normal' pleione. Ian grows them on a bedroom windowsill during the colder part of the year (October to May) and in his pleione house for the rest of the year.
Pln Lagenaria (maculata x praecox) natural hybrid
Pln Confirmation (maculata x praecox) bred by the late Jan Berg
Pln Liz Shan 'Pretty Girl' (Lagenaria x maculata) also bred by Jan Berg
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Pleione maculata is such a gorgeous flower it is no wonder these hybrids are so pretty with those great markings. A treat to see them, Maren..... thanks to you and to Ian B!
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Stunning flowers Maren ! These pans look out of this world ! :o :o
Thanks so much for showing them ! :-* :-*
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Maren, thanks for showing these amazing Ian’s plants. ;D ;D
The lip marking of P. Liz Shan is really very nice.
However, one thinking:
As we can see, P. x lagenaria, Confirmation and Liz Shan are looking very similar because they have a same parents. I discussed with Ian about his hybrid P. Lassen Peak (P. praecox x P. x lagenaria) and he was very disappointed with result of this crossing. So I think we should better choose the parent for hybridisation and our aim should be to obtain new shape, colour, flowering time, etc. I think, make the next hybrids like this is a little bit unneeded.
K.
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Hi Karel, I guess it's: some you win and some you loose. I have noticed that one doesn't always get what one expects or would like. :) ;) ;)
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Yes Maren, you are definitely right. ;D ;D
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Please don't post threads like this ... My list of one I like has just gone up by about 10 !! ;D
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Please don't post threads like this ... My list of one I like has just gone up by about 10 !! ;D
Sorry Nick...one of the perils of the Forum... the capacity to be driven to distraction by the fab plants we get shown ! Breathe deeply, lock up your wallet and don't look at the Forum for more than four hours a day.... that's the most help I can give.... but once the addiction really hits, well, that's that.... ::) ::) :D
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Nick,
Even worse is when you're in a country with strong quarantine laws that mean we'll likely never see anything like that here in Australia. :'( Some of the oranges and yellows in the first couple of postings are just awesome. :o I'm not sure what my reaction would be if I visited the nursery itself. Probably dehydration from all the crying. ;)
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The SRGC has a very long and distinguished history. Let's not forget or toss out the name for a new catchy one as is the trend these days. This club seems from here to be as alive and vibrant as when I first joined years ago. Now if the The Rock Garden were to come out in gaelic.... :o
johnw - another storm barrelling up the east coast, 15mm of rain expected here. We've dodged alot of snow this winter, the burbs have 15cm but here only 1cm that arrived last night.
John,
Was the above supposed to be in the SRGC name change topic? ???
And if the Rock Garden were to come out in Gaelic, then none of us could read it most likely. ;D ;D
{edit by maggi: I've moved John's post to the Name Change topic!}
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we could but we'd need to use google translate ;D
I sympathise Paul as I know one or two people who have come here to visit our chrysanth a dahlia shows and have met with the same problems ::) I agree with your choices, of colour Some of the paler ones look good too. I feel anothr greenhouse coming on !
John - where about are you in NS - My big sister is a Nova Scotlan by birth . Mum and dad lived there for a time during WW2 when my father was stationed near Halifax. I've never been unfortunately but my wife and I did do the Trans canadian trip on the railway a few years ago from Vancouver to Ottowa and I have to say it felt like home.
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we could but we'd need to use google translate ;D
I sympathise Paul as I know one or two people who have come here to visit our chrysanth a dahlia shows and have met with the same problems ::) I agree with your choices, of colour Some of the paler ones look good too. I feel anothr greenhouse coming on !
John - where about are you in NS - My big sister is a Nova Scotlan by birth . Mum and dad lived there for a time during WW2 when my father was stationed near Halifax. I've never been unfortunately but my wife and I did do the Trans canadian trip on the railway a few years ago from Vancouver to Ottowa and I have to say it felt like home.
I'm a Haligonian Nick. Your dad would not recognize the new Hfx., it was pretty wild & wooly during WW2 (I guess being a naval city since the 1700's it's always been that way). If you did the Trans-Canada and only got east to Ottawa then you missed the best half of the country! ;)
johnw
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but we've got an excuse to come back 8)
Sorry to digress Mod ;D
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Nick,
As you'll learn.... we digress a lot around here. ;D
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Nick,
Even worse is when you're in a country with strong quarantine laws that mean we'll likely never see anything like that here in Australia. :'( Some of the oranges and yellows in the first couple of postings are just awesome. :o I'm not sure what my reaction would be if I visited the nursery itself. Probably dehydration from all the crying. ;)
Paul, we may dream of those gorgeous orange and yellow etc. Pleiones which we will never see here in Australia , but please don't cry .Norm Collins ,a local nurseryman , raised many hybrids some 20 years ago from seed he received from Ian Butterfield ,including yellows : 'Kallista' and 'Canberra'.I did not take photos when they were in flower, but just took one of a hybrid he named after me . Debra Bartlett ( you may know her ) a botanical artist painted this hybrid and gave it to me as a Christmas present . I can send you pseudobulbs of all 3 later on , when I have returned from the Nottingham Conference .
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Paul, we may dream of those gorgeous orange and yellow etc. Pleiones which we will never see here in Australia , but please don't cry .Norm Collins ,a local nurseryman , raised many hybrids some 20 years ago from seed he received from Ian Butterfield .including yellows : 'Kallista' and 'Canberra'.I did not take photos when they were in flower, but just took one of a hybrid he named after me . Debra Bartlett ( you may know her ) a botanical artist painted this hybrid and gave it to me as a Christmas present . I can send you pseudobulbs of all 3 later on, when I have returned from the Nottingham Conference.]
Otto,
Thank you!! That would be brilliant, as long as you have enough to spare. I didn't know there was a 'Canberra' either, and being as I live there that would be cool as well. 8) Thanks heaps.
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Visited Ian's glasshouse last Monday. As every year it was amazing private show of colours and flowers.
Here are a few photos. Several of these plants flowering for the first time.
K.
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... and more ...
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There are some real jewels in there.
Thanks for sharing this Karel.
Greetings
Pieter
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Paul, we may dream of those gorgeous orange and yellow etc. Pleiones which we will never see here in Australia , but please don't cry .Norm Collins ,a local nurseryman , raised many hybrids some 20 years ago from seed he received from Ian Butterfield ,including yellows : 'Kallista' and 'Canberra'.I did not take photos when they were in flower, but just took one of a hybrid he named after me . Debra Bartlett ( you may know her ) a botanical artist painted this hybrid and gave it to me as a Christmas present . I can send you pseudobulbs of all 3 later on , when I have returned from the Nottingham Conference .
hello Otto,
I just found this posting with mentioned OZ made hybrids.
unfortunately I cannot find the mentioned Hybrids in the RHS list.
Did the person FORGOT to register his work?
would love to get some bulbils :)
cheers
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Breathe deeply, look up your wallet and don't look at the Forum for more than four hours a day....
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such good advice, but then again some good advice is always meant to be ignored