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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: mark smyth on August 27, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
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Events at the Garden House , Buckland Monochorum, Yelverton
Snowdrop Study Day
The venue for the morning lectures has just been changed to a nearby hotel to accommodate more people so numbers are now limited to 80. The idea is that people will return to the GH for lunch and the rest.
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and what a very nice garden is that! visited last month when I was on holyday in Devon and Cornwall.
too bad the wether wasnt nice but the tea,scones and clotted cream were great!
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The website from our dutch Gala is on air!
At the moment only in Dutch but this is going to change!
www.sneeuwklokjesgala.nl
regards Gerard
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Just read the translation and see that its taking place v close to Zaanse Schans, which is a terrific open-air living museum of windmills and associated traditional Dutch country buildings. Well worth a visit. I recall good on-site food also, whether that will be the case on 20 February I'm not sure. I suppose that at that time of year there's always the chance of frozen polders and Bruegel landscapes.
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Does anyone know of any Scottish snowdrop events in 2011?
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Yes, Mark, though I haven't full details as yet..... there will be a Snowdrop Day at the RBGE, (with Snowdrop Walks that weekend) on the day before the SRGC Early Bulb Day....that would be the 18th February for the Royal Botanic Garden, Edinburgh, event and the 19th for the Early Bulb Day in Dunblane.
The Scottish Snowdrop Festival will be running between 1st February and 13th March. Watch this site for further details of other Snowdrop Events ( they've got site problems at the minute, though! .... www.visitscotland.com/snowdrops
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Monksilver's website says
Galanthus Gala 2011
The next Gala will be on Saturday 12 February 2011 in Brackley, Northamptonshire.
Venue tbc
Speakers tbc
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Thanks Maggi and Brian. I'm planning to miss the Gala and Margaret Owen's next year :o but plan to visit Scotland
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Brian,that is very good news for me :) :) :)
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Yes I can see why you would be pleased Chas, CGS in Shropshire I believe so you will have to travel for that one!
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have posted our 2011 dates on the website
http://www.beningtonlordship.co.uk/events/snowdrops.shtml
did mention an "informal" meeting earlier in the year which derailed a thread due to the mention of cake ;D
owners are happy for this to go ahead, wont be any cost involved but need to get some idea of numbers, will post some more info asap once I have things finalised at work.
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Richard, how nice that the owners are happy for this.... and good of you to be working on it.... bit far for me but I do hope you get a good turnout of Forum chums to visit the lovely gardens at Benington L.
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If the informal meeting is on a date I can make Richard I would be very happy to come and share cake with you. I've looked on your website and see that the journey is possible by train and bus so I could definitely manage the travel if the date is free in my diary.
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John most likely it'll be a sunday so I can borrow the tea room, will also mean the garden will be open at 2pm, so it'll be quieter around lunchtime, which is always nicer.
and don't think buses run on Sundays, even if they did they are infrequent and take a very long route around villages, once I've sorted a date and if you can make it i'll arrange to pick up/drop off from Hertford or Stevenage, whichever is easier.
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Thanks Richard - cake and a lift. I really hope I am free on the chosen Sunday.
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Hello everyone (posters and readers ;))
I am posting to ask for help. The German Oirlich event has appealed to me for the last couple of years and reading Hagan's article in the RHS Daffodil, Snowdrop and Tulip booklet this year has convinced me I really must try to get there in February 2011.
But looking on maps it doesn't look possible to get there by public transport. I am wondering if either someone is driving from the UK and would like a passenger to share the fuel costs - or whether someone from mainland Europe is driving and will be staying in a hotel that I could get to by flying and train - and then ask for a lift in their car on the day of the Oirlich snowdrop event?
Please PM or email me if you can help.
Many thanks
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Hanneke van Dijk in association with Dutch tour operator "Garden Tours" are planning a coach tour, "Snowdrop tour for British Galanthophiles to Belgium and Germany" in 2011. The overall program runs from February 25th to March 2nd and includes a visit to Orlich on the morning of Sunday 27th February. You make your own way to Brussels and then a coach will take you everywhere. If anyone would like more details please send me a Personal Message.
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Thanks Alan - yes I've seen that - sounds an interesting trip - but €895 basic cost + €180 extra for single room + train fares to Brussels (approx £60) is a bit beyond my price range for a 5 day trip :o
I hope I can find a way to do just the German event slightly cheaper than £1000. ;D
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£1000! :o :o that's me out also
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Thanks Alan - yes I've seen that - sounds an interesting trip - but €895 basic cost + €180 extra for single room + train fares to Brussels (approx £60) is a bit beyond my price range for a 5 day trip
Yes indeed, you could buy a lot of snowdrops for the same amount of money (or a few of the really expensive ones). But it includes five nights in hotels, all meals and transport around Belgium and Germany, so surely represents more value per pound/euro than some of those expensive snowdrops?
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The way I am thinking of it Alan is that I can get 21 days in Madeira, including flights hotels and half my food - all for £800 - a much better use of my money to my thrifty mind.
I wish I did have that kind of money sitting around, as an organised coach trip would certainly make things easier, but I just don't have £1000 to spend on the trip (or on snowdrops either! :)) Hopefully I may find a way to visit the German Oirlich event that is more within my budget.
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Yes, that makes perfect sense to me, John, but we galanthophiles do have an unfortunate tendency to throw financial prudence out the window when snowdrops become involved. 21 days in Madeira sounds very nice.
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Hello everybody
The Belgian event 'Snowdrop weekend 2011' will take place in the magnificent Arboretum Kalmthout on Saturday the 26th and Sunday the 27th of February 2011. Nice programm!
Have a look at:
http://www.provant.be/kalender/vrije_tijd/domeinen/arboretum_kalmthout/collecties/hamamelis/2011_02_26_sneeuwklokjesweeken.jsp?module=tcm:7-12959-4&page=2&referer=tcm:7-20462-64
Kind regards
Valentin Wijnen
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Of course there is the not to be missed RHS London show:
"RHS London Plant and Design Show"
Tuesday February 15th 2011 - 10am to 7pm
Wednesday February 16th 2011 - 10am to 5pm
A few snaps from previous years to tempt you to be there. 8)
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I have mixed feelings about the RHS London Show in February (although I usually do go):
Pro
Often used to launch "new" snowdrops that will not be commercially available for some years.
You will see people from this forum and lots of snowdrop luminaries.
Snowdrops on display in warm and dry conditions.
Accessible by public transport.
Lots of other winter plants on sale.
Everything clearly labelled.
Con
Usually only two or three stands with interesting snowdrops.
Event gets very crowded; snowdrop stands attract a crowd and can be difficult to view.
Only the more readily-available snowdrops actually on sale.
Frantic atmosphere, little hope of a relaxed chat with the people you meet.
Only accessible by public transport; anything you buy has to survive the journey home.
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Alan
I agree with your pros and cons; here are four more pros;
1. (Generally) at least two stands (especially Avon and Foxgrove) have display groupings of different varieties so that comparisons can be made between the sometimes subtle variations. I can't think of any other Shows where this occurs (can Maggie or Ian confirm whether any of the Scottish shows provide a similar oppportunity?)
2. At viewable and photographable height (I assure you this is a considerable plus if you have a replacement knee).
3. Its dry and its warm and the light is good!
4. It's good to see fellow snowdrop enthusiasts behaving like the plants and surfacing after a lengthy period of dormancy.
Steve
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1. (Generally) at least two stands (especially Avon and Foxgrove) have display groupings of different varieties so that comparisons can be made between the sometimes subtle variations. I can't think of any other Shows where this occurs (can Maggie or Ian confirm whether any of the Scottish shows provide a similar opportunity?)
Well Steve, there aren't any nurseries in Scotland really specialising in these plants and the distance invloved would be a hindrance to the Southern folks coming up here, even if there were no more local opportunities for them to display their wares. That said, we do have the chance for anyone , nurseryman or private grower to ask a show for display space to mount an exhibition (non-competitive in the strict show sense, though such an effort may receive a medal from the judges) of mixed plants of or a single genus.
It is usually private persons who put on such displays.... someone with a National collection of chionodoxa for instance.
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Another pro , the smell from the snowdrops in the hall is heavenly ;D
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Hanneke van Dijt asked me today to add details of her snowdrop trip to my web site. The details are are here
http://www.snowdropinfo.com/europetrip.htm (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/europetrip.htm)
Hanneke's new book Galanthomania is out at the end of January from Amazon and all other good book stores.
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Yes, Mark, though I haven't full details as yet..... there will be a Snowdrop Day at the RBGE, (with Snowdrop Walks that weekend) on the day before the SRGC Early Bulb Day....that would be the 18th February for the Royal Botanic Garden, Edinburgh, event and the 19th for the Early Bulb Day in Dunblane.
Further details of this event are now available...
On Friday 18th February 2011 the SRGC, in partnership with RBGE , Cambo Snowdrops and Christie's Nursery, will host a one day Snowdrop Conference at the Royal Botanic Garden, Edinburgh.
see here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6300.0
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Hanneke's new book Galanthomania is out at the end of January from Amazon and all other good book stores. Book Depositery is cheapest
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9789089892430/Galanthomania (http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9789089892430/Galanthomania)
That sounds very interesting Mark - with my birthday coming up in March that could be a present idea.
Has anyone seen a preview copy? 500 snowdrop pictures - do you know if it is going to contain some of the wonderful snowdrops from mainland Europe that we get tantalising photographs of from Hagen and co or is it covering drops already featured in the snowdrop 'bible'?
Many thanks.
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John I have asked her already about the book but no reply so far
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Galanthomania
Snowdrops - Snowdrop
Hanneke van Dijk
From 01/30/2011 to your bookstore!
- The first book about snowdrops with the new official classification
»About the Book
Snowdrops are among the most popular bulbs. Every year in national and international events and snowdrops galanthofielen collectors and meet the many organized tours.
The book contains an alphabetical list of 500 different snowdrops. This is the first book in which the new official classification is given based on cultivar groups.
The bilingual book (English / Dutch) contains portraits of growers, collectors and other lovers of the snowdrop and is packed with information on history, breeding and disease.
The first book author Hanneke van Dijk made on this subject, Snowdrop, was a great success, was quickly sold out and was also translated into German.
An absolute must have for anyone who keeps snowdrops, both the professional grower and the average gardener and lover!
»Specifications
ISBN : 9789089892430
NUR-code : 426 | Garden plants
From 01/30/2011 to your bookstore! *
Size : unspecified
Product : book
Finish : Bound
Press : 1
Number of pages : 144
Edition : Terra Publishing
* Please note that it sometimes takes several days for a title effectively in the stores.
»About the author
Hanneke van Dijk
Hanneke van Dijk is one of the most famous Dutch garden experts and a centipede. She writes for newspapers and magazines garden, gives lectures, organizes specialist garden tours and a series of books to her name. In addition, they frequently translate foreign books garden.
Other expenses of Hanneke van Dijk
Spring Summer Autumn Winter
On your (garden) slippers by the seasons
Author (s): Hanneke van Dijk
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... and a centipede.
:o
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... and a centipede.
:o
...... and the average gardener and lover!! ::) :P
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Hey, the two of you are awake tonight.
"Centipede" - the result of automated website translation. The challenge is to figure out what what the correct translation should be.
Paddy
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I'm thinking a reference to the busy nature of this lady.... occupied in many spheres.... thus having many feet to accomplish this hectic lifestyle ??????
It's a great description!
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Other expenses of Hanneke van Dijk
:o I suppose being a galanthophile can be expensive ::)
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Hello Mark,
The information on the site of Amazon is not right (anymore).
The size of the book is now 160 pages and it will cost 30 euros (I don't know what the price will be at Amazone).
The 500 pictures of snowdrops will be 25 on a page of 25 x 25 cm.
New is the classification in ten groups, based on the flowers. By looking at the flower it is possible to decide the group.
There is a determination key for the groups and also a key for one of the groups.
The classification is made with the help of specialists and taxonomists.
The interviews are with snowdroppersons in England, Scotland, Holland, Belgium and Germany.
Sorry Mark, I did not visit Ireland.
The book is completely different from the book of Matt. My book is about snowdroppersons and the snowdropworld of today.
Matt and Joe verified the names and the pictures of the snowdrops.
It is not about Galanthus species but about the cultivars.
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... and a centipede.
:o
;D It's a direct translation from the Dutch Word "duizendpoot". We have two meanings for "centipede", one being the animal, the other meaning "Jack of all trades".
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Other expenses of Hanneke van Dijk
:o I suppose being a galanthophile can be expensive ::)
;D ;D Again, we use the same word (uitgave) for two meanings, one being "expenses" the other being "publications"...
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Wim,
Obviously, the automated translator cannot replicate the human insight.
Paddy
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The information on the site of Amazon is not right (anymore).
The size of the book is now 160 pages and it will cost 30 euros (I don't know what the price will be at Amazon).
I am glad that I didn't pre order from the Book Depositery then Mark, as they don't do refunds if the price drops!
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I have removed the link to Book Depository. We can choose where to buy the book from nearer the time when we see who is cheapest
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The information on the site of Amazon is not right (anymore).
The size of the book is now 160 pages and it will cost 30 euros (I don't know what the price will be at Amazon).
I am glad that I didn't pre order from the Book Depositery then Mark, as they don't do refunds if the price drops!
The book depositery was only £16.88 with free postage - I can't imagine there will be a better offer than that.
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The book depositery was only £16.88 with free postage - I can't imagine there will be a better offer than that.
When I saw Amazon wanted £27 for the book and Book Depositery wanted £16.88 I ordered it. I think they have mis calculated.
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Wim,
Obviously, the automated translator cannot replicate the human insight.
Paddy
Paddy,
indeed not, is fun to read though...
Wim
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If anyone finds themselves in Kent.
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I can see we will all be splitting ourselves into several parts in order to attend all these functions on the same days! Such a pity it is such a short main season, David and Anke have a lovely garden.
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Oirlich here I come - arrive on the Friday - leave on the Sunday ;D economy flights booked - excellent value B&B booked 8) Thank you to everyone who has given me advice. 8)
Looking forward to meeting any SRGC members over there.
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See you there on Saturday John ;D
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The Gala details
venue Banbury School OX15 4FF
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&q=banbury+school&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=school&hnear=Banbury&cid=0,0,8501283929941985712&ei=-0EBTbjyBsmDhQepyIDtBw&oi=local_result&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQnwIwAQ&ll=52.050379,-1.345181&spn=0.011612,0.027595&z=15 (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&q=banbury+school&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=school&hnear=Banbury&cid=0,0,8501283929941985712&ei=-0EBTbjyBsmDhQepyIDtBw&oi=local_result&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQnwIwAQ&ll=52.050379,-1.345181&spn=0.011612,0.027595&z=15)
Saturday 12th Feb 9.30 tea/coffee 10am lectures
lectures
Richard Hobbs - Norfolks Finest
Joe Sharman - Joseph and the Jargonauts
Ian Christie - Recent finds in Scotland
Larger venue than recent years
Evenley Wood Garden - a huge wood with large numbers of common snowdrops
Woodchippings - Impressive range of varieties in a small garden
A two day event this year :o. First come first served for the 100 places for Lord Michael Heseltine's arboretum and snowdrop collection.
Gala £34
Total Gala £43
Envelopes mailed tomorrow. I suppose most will receive their's on Monday
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Looking forward to the Gala (if i can get tickets :o ) Its almost as bad as getting tickets for Glastonbury festival ;D
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Perhaps Joe ought to change his website as it still says Brackley! ;)
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I went to Evenley Wood Garden two years ago and I really hated it. It is basically on ordinary wood where every so often you find squares, about 3m x 3m, of particular snowdrop cultivars. Within these squares are regularly spaced clumps of snowdrops. It is the least naturalistic planting scheme I have ever seen and I thought it looked horrible!
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Alan I know what you mean but I have enjoyed my snowdrop time visits these their these last few years. It is run as a business that is why the drops are in such large groupings. I just love the large swathes of N. Cyclamineus which were spread by seeding.
John(M)
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Has anyone recived any info about the Gala yet ? ??? i havent :'( Dont want to miss out.
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Not yet Emma ???
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I havent either.
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thats alright then, was getting a bit worried .
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The details arrived here in the post yesterday. I have scanned the two entry forms and emailed them to you Emma, Brian and Mark.
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Thank you ;D ;D ;D
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Cheers John, the postman has just been and there is still nothing!
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Cheers John, the postman has just been and there is still nothing!
That's what living in the countryside does for you. ;D
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...and the post has gone until this evening, but there are advantages!
For the lucky ones who get to Thenford House, here is a picture of the "...dramatic rill with fountains"
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Thanks John.
I'll bet the water feature in frozen
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Still nothing here either :(
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Who plans to attend the Gala?
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Who plans to attend the Gala?
Not me.
Probably everyone but me though. ;D
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looks like my postman was the fastest but I am not going to the Gala,a bit to far for me.
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I got my Gala forms in the post on Monday and sent them back today - I'm never usually so organised! I'm probably at some advantage as I only live about 10 miles from Joe Sharman's nursery so his letter did not have far to come.
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If I am lucky with tickets I should be there,as this year it is in the county
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If I am lucky with tickets I should be there,as this year it is in the county
Crikey, Chas, aren't those Minis fit to take you further than just your own county ??? ::) ;)
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I hope to go to the Gala, if i get a ticket that is .
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Panic not Emma, last night I met four others in Norfolk who had not yet had their invitation. As they are long term galanthophiles and attendees I imagine that the invitations weren't sent off as early as we thought they were going to be.
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Maggi our minis are very extensively travelled ;) we normally do the International Mini Meet each year 2011 is Switzerland,and in the past Denmark,Spain ,Netherlands,Poland,Bavaria, ........ oh and just realised that the gala is in Banbury which is Oxfordshire so the next county ;D
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Well the postmans just been with our gala forms John ;),Jan and I have been looking through the other events,and think we may venture over to the Netherlands,as we have friends living not far from Arnhem, that would mean missing the CGS day such a shame
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I haven't received a Gala application form and we haven't got any snow as yet!
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I've sent off my gala application. For a change it's not too far from here.
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At last! Having had no post for 4 days mine has finally arrived - in a snowstorm. Fingers crossed.
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Hanneke van Dijt asked me today to add details of her snowdrop trip to my web site. The details are are here
http://www.snowdropinfo.com/europetrip.htm (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/europetrip.htm)
Hanneke's new book Galanthomania is out at the end of January from Amazon and all other good book stores.
Bloembollen Visie www.cnb.nl/nl/bloembollenvisie ... the Dutch Journal for bulb growers, publishes its Journal on the web and there is a most interesting article from the issue of July 2010 by Hanneke van Dijk about Galanthus classification.
Hanneke has worked on this classification together with Wim Snoeijer for her new book, mentioned by Mark.
Here is the article from Bloembollen Visie, divided into two parts to allow it to be sized for loading here.....
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Maggi I think you are seriously hooked now or are you suffereing from snow blindness?
I cant read them :'(
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Mark, I could care less! ;D It's being stuck in the snow, I think.
I think there is enough detail to work out how the classification goes.... and run the text through google translate for an idea (admittedly only an 'idea',since some words it gives you are crazy!) to get the gist of it..... it's a great way to spend a snow bound day!
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I should I added I cant read them because it looks like web site code
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How strange.... I can open them from the link..... I'll see if I can save them another way.....
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I'll load the four pages here as jpg files.... they will be larger than the usual web pictures to allow for easier reading ! ( I hope!!)
Click the images to enlarge......
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Thank you Maggi for these articles.
As Dutch is quite close to German, I can read most of it. There are now 10 artificial groups of snowdrops, only using the looking of the flower for grouping them. It does not matter, whether a cultivar is a variation of a species or a hybrid. This is not biological, but simple and easy for registration.
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Thanks Thomas, yes, I understood that the purpose was to make registration more simple for KVAB etc.
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I haven't had much time to think this through, but off the top of my head I have a feeling that I'd have gone for a classification for registration purposes more on species lines, since so many named snowdrop cultivars are simply selections of a small number of quite easily identifiable species, even if it meant more categories - i.e. the same sorts of categories given here, but separated under each species - e.g. nivalis green, elwesii green, hybrid green, etc. I might even have tried to devise categories for specific common hybrid groups like plicatus x nivalis, with a group for unidentifiable hybrids.
Yes, yes, I know that's virtually a botanical classification. Maybe I'm looking at it from a breeder's point of view - that I'd like to be able to see at a glance what the ancestry of the cultivar is, which is useful for future breeding, and under this system there is no indication of species or hybridity (unless that's given in the registration notes - but then that means you have to search through for specific species or specific types of hybrid.
Ah what do I know?
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Thinking about it, I suppose for general garden purposes and for most gardeners the exact species or hybridity of a cultivar is not that important since all the species are essentially very similar - unlike say lilies where there are wide variations in flower types and cultivation requirements between different species and groups of species and where it would be daft to simply categorise lily cultivars by flower colour. So I guess I am being a nit-picking little breeder.
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Hanneke van Dijk will be at our Gala near the Zaanse Schans at the 20th of February. So ifs anyone around during this weekend you might be able to get the new book with signature!
regards Gerard
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My ticket for the U.K. Gala arrived this morning :)
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Time:9.30 am — 5.00 pm Location:Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh (f Venue:Lecture Theatre Price:£35Booking:Please send booking form and payment to: Kerstin Price, Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh, 20a Inverleith Row, Edinburgh EH3 5LR.
Hi all, please remember we have the Scottish Snowdrop gala on Friday 18th Feb details above it would be great to meet some of you then. We have a great day with Richard Hobbs, Catherine Erskine from Cambo Brian Duncan Ian Christie, Peter Erskine plus a guided tour round the RBGE gardens.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6300.0
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my ticket for the Gala came today ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Mine too Emma, Joe asked on Saturday if they had arrived so I presume they have all been sent out. Wol said he had heard that they were sold out again.
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Wisley snowdrop splendour 29/30 January
http://www.rhs.org.uk/RHSWebsite/files/91/91741eb9-4b7e-40e1-9216-352690446252.pdf
It's a long way for me to travel, but if the weather is sunny I might try & go.
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Rob is this closer for you
THE BEECHES
The Avenue, Milton, Tuxford, Newark NG22 0PW. Margaret & Jim Swindin. 01777 870828. 1m S A1 Markham Moor. Exit A1 at Markham Moor, take Walesby sign into village (1m). From Main Street, L up The Avenue. Soup, rolls & teas (Feb, March). Home-made teas (April, Aug). Adm £3, chd free. Suns 8 Feb, 1 Mar; (11-4); Suns 26 Apr; 30 Aug (2-5.30).
Visitors also welcome by appt Feb, Mar, Apr & Sept.
1-acre all seasons garden well stocked with colourful, desirable plants incl over 200 varieties of snowdrops, and spring bulbs. Herbaceous areas incl over 50 different clematis and a wild flower meadow. Raised beds with organically grown fruit and vegetables. Many autumn species and grasses are at their best in our Aug opening. Lovely views over open countryside. Newcastle Mausoleum (adjacent) open to view in Apr & Aug openings.
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Another Snowdrop event 2011, at Chelsey Physic Garden, London, see
http://www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk/events/SnowdropDays.htm (http://www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk/events/SnowdropDays.htm)
Best wishes,
Wim
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Another Snowdrop event 2011, at Chelsey Physic Garden, London, see
http://www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk/events/SnowdropDays.htm (http://www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk/events/SnowdropDays.htm)
Best wishes,
Wim
Oh, yes.... four days(two weekends) of snowdrop events! Thanks Wim 8)
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Thanks Wim - I think one of those dates fits in rather nicely with a spare day I have on a weekend.
And as it is 20 minutes from my work gym I have no excuse not to do some exercise and then spend an hour or two gazing at snowdrops. 8)
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Time:9.30 am — 5.00 pm Location:Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh ( Venue:Lecture Theatre Price:£35 Booking:Please send booking form and payment to: Kerstin Price, Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh, 20a Inverleith Row, Edinburgh EH3 5LR.
Hi all, please remember we have the Scottish Snowdrop gala on Friday 18th Feb details above it would be great to meet some of you then. We have a great day with Richard Hobbs, Catherine Erskine from Cambo Brian Duncan Ian Christie, Peter Erskine plus a guided tour round the RBGE gardens.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6300.0
This is the proposed schedule for RBGE Snowdrop Day:
9.30 am Welcome by David Mitchell,
short hello from Liz Mills SRGC President.
Catherine Erskine, will talk about Snowdrops and Scottish tourism how they got started with snowdrops at Cambo.
Richard Hobbs 'Snowdrops '
Brian Duncan, 'Life after Snowdrops' - note correction to our previous error in title.
Lunch first set
Tour round the garden 1hr
Lunch second set
Tour round the garden 1hr
Ian Christie, ' Some recent snowdrop finds in Scotland. '
Peter Erskine '25 years on GreenSand '
Questions and answer finish 5pm
Remember: deadline for registrations is 4th February
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Anglesey Abbey Gardens are open every day between 24th January and 27th February, 10:30 to 16:30. They have a justifiably-famous Winter Walk and there are plenty of snowdrops to see. On weekdays at 14:00 you can take a guided tour of the Winter Walk and the special snowdrop collection (which isn't otherwise open to the public). To book for this tour call 01223 810080. There is no extra charge for the tour, just the normal admission price (Adults £6.10, National Trust members free).
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I may have missed it on this thread, but does anyone have details of the Cottage GS event this year? Is it taking place?
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Yes,its taking place at the FryClub and Conference Centre,Somerdale,Keynsham Bristol,on the 19th Feb
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Thanks for that. Can't find any reference to it on the web. Do you have a link or a phone number/email address for someone I can contact about the event? Cheers.
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Thanks for that. Can't find any reference to it on the web. Do you have a link or a phone number/email address for someone I can contact about the event? Cheers.
You should have received the newsletter before christmas and all the details for members are in there.
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Anybody going to the Wisley snowdrop weekend ? I was thinking of going if the weather is going to be okay.
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I presume all you 'drop fiends are aware of this listing?
http://www.shootgardening.co.uk/article/visit-snowdrops-in-february-and-march
..... lots of super places to vist on this list of NGS gardens "all over the country, from Cornwall to Cumbria" ;)
Oops! Vivien tells me that the dates on that link are not for 2011.... please check carefully with any of the venues before visiting
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I presume all you 'drop fiends are aware of this listing?
http://www.shootgardening.co.uk/article/visit-snowdrops-in-february-and-march
..... lots of super places to vist on this list of NGS gardens "all over the country, from Cornwall to Cumbria" ;)
Thanks for the link Maggi. Just be aware that the dates are not 2011 dates! Check with the NGS website. They now have a snowdrop list out but it is not as easy to search through as the one in your link.
http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-openings-for-2011.aspx (http://www.ngs.org.uk/news-features/local-news/snowdrop-openings-for-2011.aspx)
Via a link on the Snowdrop prices thread about the G. EA Bowles sale, there is a Snowdrop tour of the garden at Myddleton House on Sunday 12th Feb, booking essential.
I would have liked to go on this as we are staying in West Norfolk nest week and it is not far away. Unfortunately my poorly foot will not manage a 2-mile walk. Still, I will go to Walsingham Abbey and one of the NGS snowdrop gardens there so plenty to look forward to.
http://www.leevalleypark.org.uk/EN/Events/index.aspx?EventID=374 (http://www.leevalleypark.org.uk/EN/Events/index.aspx?EventID=374)
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Just be aware that the dates are not 2011 dates!
Crikey! Sorry about that... There is nothing obvious to suggest that the dates are not for the current year :-X
Will modify my earlier post.
Thanks, Vivien!
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I am attempting to post a photograph taken at Wisley at the weekend. It is of G Simon Lockyer a green tipped introduction. It is not a very clear photo as I could not seem to get much detail with or without a flash. I am hoping the photo is not too big.
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Thanks for the photo Jennie. Simon told me last year that he had named a green outered one 'Simon' - do you happen to know if this one ('Simon Lockyer') is the same one?
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Yes John, I believe this is the one he has named after himself. It looked much prettier in real life - like you I had trouble with the lighting which was a shame. When Christine Skelmersdale wafted it under the noses of the people in the front row of the lecture there was lots of ooohing and aaahhing! It is pretty......but Green Tear is really something :)
Here are a few more shots from the day at Wisley
1. G Penelope Ann - straight onto my wish list
2. The stand at Wisley
3. G caucasicus I bought at Wisley and it has faint green lines on the tips, also cheap as chips!
I am still very confused about caucasicus - could anyone please explain to me what it used to be and what it is now....and why? I have a G caucasicus from Washfield Nursery which has been in the garden around 15 years and it looks nothing like the one I bought at Wisley. Confusing.
thanks Jennie
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Hello everyone.
Just to say my garden is open for charity twice in February. We have over 250 varieties of Snowdrops in a 1 acre garden with great views over the Weald of Kent.
Sunday 6th February
Open as part of the National Gardens Scheme
Open 12 - 4pm
Sunday 13th February
Open for Demelza House
11am - 3pm
Admission £3.50. Refreshments and plants for sale.
Spring Platt
Boyton Court Road
Sutton Valence
Maidstone
Kent
ME17 3BY
If you have any questions please do ask or send me a message, it would be lovely to see the people John and I know here and any new faces.
Carolyn
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Carolyn, a very warm welcome to you.
Thank you so much for telling us about your garden.... I foresee a lot of happy forumists making their way to your open days... I wish you warm days and lots of visitors to enjoy your snowdrops.
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Welcome Carolyn
I live in West Kingsdown and hope to make it to see your snowdrops on one of your open days.
Thanks for letting us know and I look forward to meeting you
Jennie
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Hi Carolyn, will try and get to your open day on the 13th.
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who's heading to the Garden House next week?
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Hi Carolyn
Glad to see you posting - I hope this post is the first of many :)
with great views over the Weald of Kent.
I am soooooo jealous of that view (here is my parting memory of it last year) - stunning!
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Hi Carolyn
Glad to see you posting - I hope this post is the first of many :)
with great views over the Weald of Kent.
I am soooooo jealous of that view (here is my parting memory of it last year) - stunning!
Wow! That's a garden view to die for!
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who's heading to the Garden House next week?
Mark
See you there.
Steve
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Yes, I, John and my long-suffering wife had a snowdrop day out together last year and visited Carolyn Millen. We had spent so much time at our first venue that we got there rather late in the day but we were still treated with great hospitality. Carolyn has a large and excellent collection of snowdrops and, indeed, some stunning views.
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who's heading to the Garden House next week?
I am , yay ;D ;D ;D ;D
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So am I. It'll be good to meet up with you all!!
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Group photo?
Who has never been to a snowdrop event?
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Group photo?
Who has never been to a snowdrop event?
As there are 1458 registered members and probably less than 100 go to the events I would say quite a lot
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Carolyn, with views like that from your garden I am even more sorry I won't be able to visit.
Hope all attending have a great time.
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Anyone going to Ashwoods Snowdrop day this Sunday?
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I wish because there are two Hellebores I lust after
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I wish because there are two Hellebores I lust after
If they are the two I guess (Briar Rose and Pink Ice) then they are not available because they didn't like the results of micropropping them last year, so they have gone back to slower methods of propagation. It will be a while before there are many for sale. :'(
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Hello everyone.
Just to say my garden is open for charity twice in February. We have over 250 varieties of Snowdrops in a 1 acre garden with great views over the Weald of Kent.
Sunday 6th February
Open as part of the National Gardens Scheme
Open 12 - 4pm
Admission £3.50. Refreshments and plants for sale.
Spring Platt
Boyton Court Road
Sutton Valence
Maidstone
Kent
ME17 3BY
If you have any questions please do ask or send me a message, it would be lovely to see the people John and I know here and any new faces.
Carolyn
Carolyn,
I will be bringing John Finch (Kent Gardener) and Jennie (Kentish Lass) with me this coming Sunday.
Please arrange the weather.
Arthur
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Please arrange the weather.
;D No harm in asking, I suppose :-\
My Ashwoods yellow hellebore is bulking up nicely and the shoots are about two inches high... showing colour. I'm pleased.
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My Ashwoods yellow hellebore is bulking up nicely and the shoots are about two inches high... showing colour. I'm pleased.
I'm pleased to hear that, Maggi ;)
I just removed an old Rhodo yak hybrid that was past its sell-by date and under and round it I discovered dozens of self-sown hellebore seedlings going to flower this year for the first time, it'll be interesting to see what they produce.
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Diane, you are correct
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Anyone going to Ashwoods Snowdrop day this Sunday?
Rodmarton and Colesbourne take priority. Wish my name was William Windsor and I could helicopter it over to Ashwood.....
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To Rodmarton and Colesbourne today. The snowdrops in some cases are well behind; maybe a third properly in flower and very few open. Colesbourne's plants look so lush - maybe its the elephant manure again.
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To Rodmarton and Colesbourne today. The snowdrops in some cases are well behind; maybe a third properly in flower and very few open. Colesbourne's plants look so lush - maybe its the elephant manure again.
Dr Grimshaw's African connections are impeccable, so you may be right... ;)
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A few pictures from John Massey's garden at Ashwood today where there was a snowdrop day with Rod Leeds giving the lecture. John has planted a lot of snowdrops in his garden over the last two or three years.
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a few more
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and some more
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Jest not: in a former life I was indeed regarded as something of an expert in elephant dung. But that, as one might say, is behind me.
John Grimshaw
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Anyone going to Harvey's day on Tuesday?
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Anyone going to Harvey's day on Tuesday?
If the answer is yes, and then attend the Gala, could someone do me a favour?
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Jest not: in a former life I was indeed regarded as something of an expert in elephant dung. But that, as one might say, is behind me.
John Grimshaw
On to more challenging markings eh?
johnw
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Jest not: in a former life I was indeed regarded as something of an expert in elephant dung. But that, as one might say, is behind me.
;D ;D
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Lovely photos of John Massey's garden Diane, I enjoyed everyone!
Thank you for posting them.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to work at his nursery?
Hellebore, snowdrops, hepatica, I'd be in heaven!!
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Anyone going to Harvey's day on Tuesday?
If the answer is yes, and then attend the Gala, could someone do me a favour?
Sorry Mark you are going to be unlucky, we have just heard from Ann that she had a phone call from Roger Harvey this morning and tomorrow's event has been cancelled. She will be opening for "Help for Heroes" on Feb 17th and 24th from 11 - 4 if that helps anyone that has been disappointed. On the plus side we are still going for lunch ;D
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Thanks for the pictures Diane - lots of wonderful winter interest there.
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I would love to see Ann's garden again. Say hello for me
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Sorry Mark you are going to be unlucky, we have just heard from Ann that she had a phone call from Roger Harvey this morning and tomorrow's event has been cancelled.
Brian, that's a shock :o - wasn't Anne busy preparing the garden and food all weekend Harvey's expected visitors to her garden. I hope you and David have big appetites as I imagine Anne has a pantry full of goodies for the multitude of expected, non arriving, guests.
And what about all those snowdrops you have grown for the sales table? Will you have another opportunity this year to hand over the pots of 'Finchale Abbey', 'Wasp' and all those others that you hoped to sell tomorrow?
How frustrating! :-\
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Wouldn't it be wonderful to work at his nursery?
Hellebore, snowdrops, hepatica, I'd be in heaven!!
And what about the cyclamen :o
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Thanks for the pictures Diane - lots of wonderful winter interest there.
Thanks for all your interest
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And what about the cyclamen :o
I noticed them ;D 8)
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Yesterday I went to Carolyn Millen's open garden day for charity. Arthur kindly picked me up and then we went to get John in the Medway.
Before leaving Johns we took a quick peek at his garden. What a feast for the eyes. I was so excited that I forgot to take photograph before we left.
When we got to Carolyn's I did not know where to look first, so headed for the sales table instead :) After a nice cup of tea I headed off to see the huge collection of snowdrops that are neatly arranged in raised beds. Being new to snowdrops I have never seen them displayed like this before. I was mesmerised. I saw lots of the snowdrops that I have lusted after for the last few years. It was so good to see them in real life.
Carolyn and her daughter are also very successful propagators and have lovely neat cold frames packed with pots of chipped snowdrops. Mr Millen kindly explained to me how to mix the perfect soil for potting snowdrops.
Unfortunately when I got around to taking some photographs of close ups the wind started up. I got a few nice shots but think I will have to make a return visit on one of the next open days. Incidentally Carolyn forgot to mention she also has an open day on March 6th - this was not mentioned in her earlier post. My favourites at Carolyn's were Reverend Hailstone & var. whitalli - they are tall with huge flowers. Gorgeous. Photos to follow soon.
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Hi Diane, I can't believe I left out CYCLAMEN!!!
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Can anyone please tell me the name of the Cyclamen that are flowering at Ashwoods? They are very early ones and perfect to go with snowdrops.
Ashwood's looks lovely but I would not trust myself there with all those gorgeous plants for sale :)
thanks
Jennie
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I was surprisedto see how advanced the cyclamen are at John Massey's garden... this place is getting to feel more and more like the frozen north every day, with all the gems appearing inthe photos in the Forum :'(
I think they are all Cyclamen coum, Jennie and looking as healthy as can be.
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I've got a lot of coum "Maurice Dryden" flowering with drops, is a lovely combination and they're always out together.
planted 10 ish years ago, I remember doing it and a visitors voice behind telling me "they wont grow there!" always hoped they might have been back since :)
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I hope you and David have big appetites as I imagine Anne has a pantry full of goodies for the multitude of expected, non arriving, guests.
And what about all those snowdrops you have grown for the sales table? Will you have another opportunity this year to hand over the pots of 'Finchale Abbey', 'Wasp' and all those others that you hoped to sell tomorrow?
How frustrating! :-\
Frustrating to say the least, and no doubt I will come home the size of a double decker bus ;) Not sure what will happen to the pots of snowdrops :-\
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Before leaving Johns we took a quick peek at his garden. What a feast for the eyes. I was so excited that I forgot to take photograph before we left.
Black mark Jennie ::)
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Before leaving Johns we took a quick peek at his garden. What a feast for the eyes. I was so excited that I forgot to take photograph before we left.
Black mark Jennie ::)
Brian - thats not to say I did not take some later :)
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thats not to say I did not take some later :)
Thank heavens for that! :D
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Brian - thats not to say I did not take some later :)
Ok you're forgiven 8)
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Here are a few photos taken at Johns (Kentgardener) on Sunday. All of the close ups of snowdrops were blurry due to low light later in the day.
Johns garden is absolutely packed with interesting plants and features. He has carefully combined very unusual small ferns, gorgeous Cyclamen, small grasses, Saxifrage and a host of other small plants into a winter wonderland. Thats not to mention a host of perfectly pruned climbers on every wall and endless bamboos & tropicals....and a fish pond. It may be small but it is like walking into another world. I would trade my huge, hard to manage, stressful garden for John's little paradise any day :) Oh, I forgot to mention a collection of snowdrops which made me feel heady with excitement. I had not heard of half of them ::)
A fantastic example of how to make the best of a small garden. I cannot wait to see it again some day as I still missed loads of stuff.
How lovely to just walk outside and all your treasures are right there to look at. I spent hours today trying to find one snowdrop - four hours later I still had not found it. Half a day wasted.
Jennie
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John,
The cyclamen/snowdrop combination is perfect.
Many thanks for the photographs, Jennie.
Paddy
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Very nice Jennie/John, that Hellebore is gorgeous.
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Here are a few photos from Carolyn Millen's on Sunday. Most were blurry due to the wind and John just about covered the same ones I took. Here are a few that really took my eye.
1. Chelsworth Magnet
2. Nice group of Headbourne
3. Reverend Hailstone - bit blurry but you can see how large and imposing it is. Really like this one
4. var. Whittallii - lovely wide greyish blue foliage. On my wish list.
5. Coldframe full of chipped bulbs.
Jennie
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Yes, Headbourne is a good clumper Jennie were these your favourites?
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Jennie - That silver-edged hederifolium at John's is a stunner.
johnw
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Yes, Headbourne is a good clumper Jennie were these your favourites?
Yes Brian they were my favourites along with Roger Rough, Acton Pigot, Courteenhall and a few others. Wish I had taken notes but it was a bit too windy to concentrate. Luckily I have bought Headbourne from Beth Chatto this year and it already looks good with 2 flowers on each bulb. I need ones that are good doers here as I have larger areas that need covering. I am quite taken with big tall flowers for impact in the borders as well. Then of course I must have the virescent ones to drool over :)
Jennie
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Jennie - That silver-edged hederifolium at John's is a stunner.
johnw
I know John it is just amazing. I have been on the internet looking for anything similar.....but cannot find anything close. If that never produced a flower it would not even matter :) The almost pure silver one in front of it is lovely too.
Jennie
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I know John it is just amazing. I have been on the internet looking for anything similar.....but cannot find anything close.
Jennie - How can you still be awake after the day you've had?
I agree. I have never seen one like that in the CS Journals in over 25 years.
johnw
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Yes, Headbourne is a good clumper Jennie were these your favourites?
Yes Brian they were my favourites along with Roger Rough, Acton Pigot, Courteenhall and a few others. Wish I had taken notes but it was a bit too windy to concentrate. Luckily I have bought Headbourne from Beth Chatto this year and it already looks good with 2 flowers on each bulb. I need ones that are good doers here as I have larger areas that need covering. I am quite taken with big tall flowers for impact in the borders as well. Then of course I must have the virescent ones to drool over :)
Jennie
Welcome to lost cause corner Jennie ;D
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Jennie - That silver-edged hederifolium at John's is a stunner.
johnw
John
A very nice plant and certainly my favourite from the many arrow form plants John grows. I would not call the border silver, rahter grey.
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I am heading off now for the Garden House snowdrop study day. Im staying over night with my sister so should be a fun filled couple of days :)
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There will be some very wet Galanthophiles at the Garden House today. Teeming it down and a heavy mist rolling off Dartmoor, typical Devon day really!!
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There will be some very wet Galanthophiles at the Garden House today. Teeming it down and a heavy mist rolling off Dartmoor, typical Devon day really!!
Fear not David, they will have the time of their lives, just wish I was down there with them ;)
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teeming down here as well, but I've just passed quite a lot of visitors on the drive, did look like most were heading straight for the tea room though ;)
I've swapped a cold shed for warm kitchen, label writing next to a log burner is much nicer.
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Hi all,
Back in the office today after a damp but smashing day at the Garden House yesterday. It was good to meet up with forum members who made it to the event.
The talks were very informative at the Moorland Links hotel, Alan Street was as usual very entertaining with behind the scenes photos of Avon Bulbs & the process of chipping bulbs. Matt Bishop showed pictures of new snowdrops in the pipeline.
I'm sorry I haven't any pictures of the garden my camera just wasn't up to the poor light conditions & it was very drizzly Hound of the Baskervilles type weather! Other members will no doubt have photos to post as I saw several better cameras being used.
The snowdrop sale was very 'enthusiastically' attended & well behaved considering the restricted sales area. Alan Street, Matt Bishop, Colin Mason & Andy Byfield all had snowdrops for sale. Sarah & Julian Sutton (Desirable Plants) also had plants for sale.
Just a taste of the day, I'm sure others will have a lot more to say.
Better get back to work so bye for now........
Mike
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Whos off to the gala tomorrow ? I am :)
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Me too ;)
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The Altamont snowdrop week is currently on from Monday14th - sunday 20th Feburary
http://www.discoverireland.com/us/ireland-things-to-see-and-do/whats-on/listings/?fid=FI_14541 (http://www.discoverireland.com/us/ireland-things-to-see-and-do/whats-on/listings/?fid=FI_14541)
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Margaret Owen's open day is on Sunday Feb 27, from 11a.m. to 3p.m. at The Patch, Acton Piggott, Shropshire.
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I must try to get there this year,should be working though,will have to see if I can get some time off
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Well I'm just back from the Cottage Garden Snowdrop event and finally have time to sit down and post a few pictures.
I had a great day out with John, Emma and Mike on Friday on my way to Bristol. Wonderful garden, snowdrops, cake and birds. I left John to take the pictures, the bird ones are amazing, through glass at least 15ft from the feeder, very impressive.
The garden today that the cottage garden group visited was lovely. The whole garden was immaculately managed, with clipped topiary, beautifully clipped, pruned and trained shrubs, framed views etc etc. A real joy.
The best bit was of course the snowdrops which have been artfully planted and spread to look really natural. It did look as if there had been quite a lot of self seeding and cross pollinating and because the style was natural and therefore no labelling I have not even attempted to name any of the photos. Just 'Hanham Court' 1,2,3 etc.
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Some more, including a little snowdrop PR, I didn't notice any security guards but I think Joe may have needed them :) :)
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Thanks for showing us those Jo, I was sorry to miss it this year. No wonder it was on a friends list of gardens to get to.
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Thanks for the pictures Jo - it looks a lovely garden. I could have attended in the end as Kent was 'rained off'. ::)
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Some more, including a little snowdrop PR, I didn't notice any security guards but I think Joe may have needed them :) :)
I assume he's holding a potful of E.A. Bowles for the camera then?
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Some more, including a little snowdrop PR, I didn't notice any security guards but I think Joe may have needed them :) :)
I assume he's holding a potful of E.A. Bowles for the camera then?
;)
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If anyone still wants an E A Bowles this season, it looked as if Joe had several available on the Monksilver Nursery stand at5 CGS Bristol.
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We had our Dutch SnowdropGala near the Zaanse Schans yesterday and almost a 1000 visitors!!
Here are some pics made at 08.30 am.
We had a other exhibition part then last year with all small other bulbs besides the snowdrops.
After these photos i had no time for a cup of coffe and a sandwich till 16.00 pm, Gala's are exhausting ;D ;D
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some more!
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I see lots of yellow but are there Narcissus for sale?
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They were all for exhibition from www.kwekerijdeschullhorn.nl
And the yellow ones were Crocus, Fritillaria, Narcis and i see that i should have made more close-ups. Next year better!
And the old pushbike with Eranthis of course!
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Could somebody tell me what that drops called in jo's pic HC9 it is an incredible thing and where could i get it from.
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We had our Dutch SnowdropGala near the Zaanse Schans yesterday and almost a 1000 visitors!!
Here are some pics made at 08.30 am.
We had a other exhibition part then last year with all small other bulbs besides the snowdrops.
After these photos i had no time for a cup of coffe and a sandwich till 16.00 pm, Gala's are exhausting ;D ;D
With big pots of Eranthis for only 3.50 euros I'm not surprised you had a thousand visitors!
The pictures are super and it's lovely and quiet before the visitors arrive.... but I can understand that you were pretty tired by the end of the day. You must be pleased so many came.
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Could somebody tell me what that drops called in jo's pic HC9 it is an incredible thing and where could i get it from.
HC 9 is in reply no. 185 onthe previous page to this one
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5949.msg187483#msg187483
Very long scrawny petals..... :P
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Probably elwesii Zwanenburg
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Could somebody tell me what that drops called in jo's pic HC9 it is an incredible thing and where could i get it from.
None of those snowdrops were labelled so only the owners might know for sure.
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Some more, including a little snowdrop PR, I didn't notice any security guards but I think Joe may have needed them :) :)
I assume he's holding a potful of E.A. Bowles for the camera then?
Et voila, courtesy of a friend ;D
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wolf whistle :o They look brilliant in a group
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A very pretty thousand pounds worth Brian. ;D
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Gerald - that is a beautiful display of bulbs. So clean and neatly presented. Nice photos, thanks for posting them.
Jo - more lovely photos and a lovely natural garden. Hope the garden owner has a good memory or a garden map!
Jennie
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Joe had the pot of E A Bowles near the sales table on Saturday it was a sight to behold :o :o
Individual bulbs were £120.
Fantastic day!!!
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I know I've said it before but just looking through the number of views each picture gets it seems that people and garden views are more popular than close ups of snowdrops :)
I suppose its because everyone knows most of the snowdrops already. Obviously human interest is just as important ;D
Perhaps its my eyesight, most people can see the image without clicking it :-[ Now I'm rambling, sorry ::)
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Yes, Jo, the social side of gardening is as important as looking at the plants and, as you say, a thumbnail of a snowdrop shows it all really. There is little benefit in enlarging the image. Also, as Maggi says, many are so alike and then there is another aspect - where are those snowdrops which were the height of fashion last year? Where are the photographs of 'Flocon de Neige' this year? Are snowdrops becoming a one year wonder? Has novelty become the be all and end all? Has it become such that the old reliables, the good garden snowdrops no longer hold an interest?
Paddy
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Probably elwesii Zwanenburg
I don't think so, Mark... the claw is wrong.
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Probably elwesii Zwanenburg
I don't think so, Mark... the claw is wrong.
Maggi, they are all the same! How can you spot any difference between them?
Paddy
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Maggie thats what i thought the outers on jo's pic are long drooping and thin(thats what i like)(David N waiting for a remark ;D)
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Probably elwesii Zwanenburg
I don't think so, Mark... the claw is wrong.
Maggi, they are all the same! How can you spot any difference between them?
Paddy
Ooops, walked straight into that one
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(I haven't got a smiley for "hoist by my own petard)
Well, shall we say there are some differences and, as Davey says, there are certainly some in this case. I'm saying nothing about your personal preferences , Davey ........
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... but you're right... Jo's pic has very elongated and narrow petals, pretty much straight along their length and Mark's pic has long but broader petals with a distinct claw by the ovary....
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You have sharp and attentive eyes, Maggi
Paddy
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Thanks Paddy... it's all part of my job.
I always knew if I looked at the ruddy things long enough I'd see something!
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To Anglesey Abbey today, cold and grey and lots of kids on half term, so quiet and reflective it was not. However the specialist snowdrops in both the "old" and "new sites were top rate and well away from the racket. More orange-tips being trialled. Bumped into Matt and Jorg on Matt's marathon of research for Snowdrops 2.
The Winter Walk is absolutely at its best. Go and enjoy it if you can.
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I'm planning on going to Howick Hall in Northumberland at the weekend, the forecast says sunshine so here's hoping..
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Could somebody tell me what that drops called in jo's pic HC9 it is an incredible thing and where could i get it from.
Hi Davey, it was just an unlabelled hybrid, the inner mark like Zwanenburg as Mark showed, but it wasn't an elwesii. A nivalis, plicatus cross I think.
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Jo thank you for that,it is a really lovely thing.
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If anyone is going to Margaret Owen's on Sunday, could you PM me please? I want to ask a favour. Thanks,
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did anyone go to the Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh event?
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did anyone go to the Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh event?
Quite a number, I'm told.... not sure about Forumists, though. Ian C was speaking , of course but was likely too busy to take photos. Sandy was there so a report from him may appear at some point. ;)
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Thanks
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Is anyone planning on going to Margaret Owen's garden open day in Shropshire on Sunday? I was hoping to make it there this year (as opposed to breaking down in my car on the way there as happened the last time I tried to go). Then again it's half term and there are kids to ferry around and look after, so who knows?
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Maggie thats what i thought the outers on jo's pic are long drooping and thin(thats what i like)(David N waiting for a remark ;D)
Whatever turns you on Davey boy! :P ;D
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Maggie thats what i thought the outers on jo's pic are long drooping and thin(thats what i like)(David N waiting for a remark ;D)
Whatever turns you on Davey boy! :P ;D
I've got to say mate you fair cheer me up. ;D
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A few impressions from the 'Schneeglöckchen Tage' (Days of the snowdrops) at Oirlich
Today I went to Oirlich - near to the border to the Netherlands - in order to visit the event mentioned above.
Contrary to the weather forecast it wasn't raining and there were masses of visitors - much more than I ever noticed before.
Sorry for the few snowdrop pics - but there were also a lot of other
interesting species.
Enjoy!
1. Jan Bravenboer - Cyclamen specialist
2. Cyclamen coum album from Jan
3. Galanthus Green Ice - named after Jan's nursery
4. John Finch - met at the stall of Joe Sharman
5. Corydalis solida 'White Swallow'
6. An interesting nest box
7. Günther Waldorf - the organizer of the Schneeglöckchen Tage
8. Viola odorata 'Rosine'
9. Visitors
10. a multipetalled form of Helleborus (?)niger
Gerd
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The rest
1. + 2. Yellow Helleborus orientalis
3. A multipetalled form of H. orientalis
4. Visitors
Gerd
p.s.
Sorry - but I was so happy that I met Luit and his nice wife that
I forgot to take pics from them
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Gerd,
You were spoiled for choice and it is no wonder you took so little photographs of snowdrops. However, hellebores are very beautiful also.
This looks like a very nice event.
Paddy
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That pink double hellebore is an absolute beauty!!
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Some of those hellebores are absolutely gorgeous 8) Nice to have some good pictures of forumists too Gerd, thanks for posting them. I hope you had a rewarding day and found some good plants ;D
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Well, I didn't make it to Margaret Owen's snowdrop open day AGAIN this year - this time due to a stinking cold caught from our kids! Thank you, infectious offspring! Thank you very much!
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Thanks for kind comments!
The hellebores were sold by Jürgen Peters, more known for his
Hepatica.
Gerd
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Looked for the pic of the double yellow hellebore posted a few days ago (can't find it) - but can anyone recommend where it could be obtained?
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Well Janet and I made it to Margaret Owen's open day,left home in bright sunshine,and as we got nearer through some very wet spells,we arrived about 10.50 to find a small queue at the gate,and the weather improved with only a couple of short sharp showers ,as normal the usual hustle and bustle for the sales,we did however manage to pick up a couple of drops,
A very enjoyable day
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Anything interesting for sale at Margaret's?
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I went to the Beeches in Milton to see Margaret & Jim Swindin's snowdrops were i met Gill Richardson and Hilary Chapman as well what a day,it was fantastic,they are lovely people and we chatted for ages. http://www.ngs.org.uk/gardens/gardenfinder/garden.aspx?id=13762
The following pics most of them had the tags in shot,it was raining so sorry about some of them.
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And one of Gill(I'm sorry Gill)and more drops
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And a few more and a couple of the Garden
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Cheers Davey, hope you didn't get too wet ;)
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The following pics most of them had the tags in shot,it was raining so sorry about some of them.
Good shots in spite of the rain, thanks for posting.
G. Colossus doesn't look right despite the name tag, unless it's the large leaves in the bottom right corner.
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Looking at it again your right Rob
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I always find it interesting to see how & where people grow their snowdrops.
Thanks for posting the photos Davey - very interesting
Jennie
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Glad to see you got to a snowdrop event this year Davey. It starts with 'just the one' - and before you know it the whole of February will be a busy month! ;D
Not sure I have heard of 'The Scribe' before (but then again I am soooooo tired my brain may not be functioning properly this morning ::))
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Anything interesting for sale at Margaret's?
Yes Mark,
Godfrey Owen
Margaret Owen
Ray Cobb
Woodpecker
Pyramid
Blonde Inge
and many more,I think all in about 30 drops for sale
Another was Quadropetala,not sure my spelling is right on this one
I was vey good and only bought 3 drops
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Margaret Owen and Woodpecker are new to me. Did Woodpecker have an s at the end? Woodpeckers is Lallie Cox' green tipped woronowii
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No mark Just plain Woodpecker,and yes it is another of Lallie Cox's,I also have Green Woodpecker which is Lallie's woronowii
Woodpecker is a Yellow,will post a picture tomorrow if you wish
And Margaret Owen is also a new one,I think that there is a picture in the new Galanthomania book
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Chas yes please i was told about this drop today but couldn't find a pic(woodpecker)
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My earliest record of 'Margaret Owen' is in 2007 - it came from Ray Cobb's garden and is an elwesii with full length marks on inner segments.
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ah yes Green Woodpecker - so much to remember
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I've seen 'Margaret Owen' which was a good sturdy, desirable snowdrop, but not the Woodpeckers 'drops, was Lallie at the CGS day Chas? I ordered 'Margaret Owen' from a supplier but was unfortunate in that all his stock was lost after the hard winter.
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No Brian,Lallie was not at the CGS Day ,sadly I have not seen her since Andy sadly passed away,I must make the effort next year to visit her garden if it is open
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I havent see Lallie either
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Here is a picture from the Belgian snowdrop event held at Kalmthout arboretum last weekend. This event was so civilised we had lunch before the snowdrop sales began!
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Also on display were some snowdrops I took to have been grown hydroponically.
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Hi Alan, galanthophilie seems to be a part of real culture. Good so.
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Here is a picture from the Belgian snowdrop event held at Kalmthout arboretum last weekend. This event was so civilised we had lunch before the snowdrop sales began!
Alan - I hope that's not a Fazioli! ::)
johnw
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Well finally managed to get a picture of Woodpeckers, :)thought it was just Woodpecker but on looking at the label again there is definiately an 's' ,Apologies for the delay,but we are having puter problems here at the moment >:(
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That is really sweet, is that the normal size Chas or is it just because it's a young bulb?
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That is just a young bulb Brian
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Here are a couple of photographs I took last season of Woodpeckers. I am surprised that you don't recognise it, Brian, as you were there on the same day!
As you can see in the second photograph, the plants in this garden are virused but they do look great as they emerge. I would grow them in a pot and display them on a plant bench or similar so as to minimise the risk of the virus spreading. Having said that, the snowdrops planted close to these show no signs of viral infection. This was still the case this year too.
Cheers,
David
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I wonder where one could purchase those wire label holders in the last photograph? Does anybody know?
Paddy
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Paddy,
Rod Leeds uses these and gets them from the local butcher! I'm sure that there are horticultural equivalents out there but try the butcher. I bet that they are cheaper too.
Cheers,
David
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David,
I've never seen them at the butchers but must ask about them. I use aluminium labels in the garden (Alitags) but make the wire holders myself.
I'd imagine they are something one would come upon at some of the flower shows.
Paddy
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David I think you are referring to butchers pins. They rust in a day or two when left outside or in a plant pot
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Here are a couple of photographs I took last season of Woodpeckers. I am surprised that you don't recognise it, Brian, as you were there on the same day!
Just too many other wonderful snowdrops to see there David.
Mark the ones in David's photograph don't look rusted.
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I know, Brian. I spent hours going around the garden and missed some. This time around I got a personal tour and only then did I realised how many I had missed!
The butcher pins weren't rusty but that's not to say they wouldn't be, given time. I didn't pay much attention to them other than I didn't see a rusty one. Perhaps these were galvanised or aluminium.
Cheers,
David
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Are we looking at Woodpeckers2? That one looks home made. Jo makes her own and showed me how easy it is
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Surely that is Green Woodpecker
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Mark,
I have always made my own from strong galvanised wire but thought there might be a source of a ready-made type. The best material I had to make them was a very heavy electric cable which had a single copper wire of almost two millimetre diameter and covered in insulation. Unfortunately, this is a material not generally available. I simply got a few metres from electricians laying cable on a new road being constructed locally.
Back to the snowdrops. Apologies to David for diverting his interesting postings.
Paddy
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Surely that is Green Woodpecker
Chas, you may be right. I'm not familiar with either of the Woodpecker plants and merely posted what I had photographed. It would make sense given the bright colour of the leaves but since when does sense ever come in to snowdrop naming ;D Hopefully there is someone on the forum who can sort this out.
Cheers,
David
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This time around I got a personal tour and only then did I realised how many I had missed!
Lucky boy 8)
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I wonder where one could purchase those wire label holders in the last photograph? Does anybody know?
Paddy
Paddy, here is a link to an amercian supplier but I haven't been able to find a European one yet.....
http://www.gardenmarker.com/product3.htm
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This is where I get all my black jumbo labels from - they do some metal label bits
http://www.theessentialscompany.co.uk/Label%20Holders.html
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These label legs probably fit the bill too, but they are not cheap ???
http://www.wellsandwinter.co.uk/products.asp?catID=20&catName=Zinc%20Labels
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Maggi, John and Brian,
I'll check out these links now. Many thanks. Paddy
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I am using all different labels at the moment. I like the Alitags as invisible markers as they last so long (unless trod on over and over). I write on them with the special pencil that they sell and it is very permanent. I have also bought some black Jumbo markers to try with a silver paint pen.
On bigger clumps of snowdrops I am using metal tags with a nameplate that I imported from the USA. It really did not work out too expensive and I needed them for my daylilies. For the snowdrops I write on them with a black paint pen and it makes life very easy when taking photographs. I have the link somewhere if anyone is interested. Pity we do not have such labels available in England. I also use them on my Hellebores and Hostas.
Jennie
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Jennie
Only just awake here and still bleary eyed - I looked at your picture and thought "I've not heard of Gal(anthus) 'Iddy Biddy'" - then I enlarged the picture and saw it was a day lilly. ;D