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Title: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 03:28:36 PM
Today I have been lifted and removing next years tubers just like Ian does on the Bulblog

It's interesting to see how some plants have produced only small tubers while others have produced two large ones

I lifted my Cruickshanks dark leaf and broke off the 'fingers' of nexts years tuber. The roots coming from the growing point are OK. I hope I havent killed it.
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 10, 2010, 03:40:48 PM
Today I have been lifted and removing next years tubers just like Ian does on the Bulblog

It's interesting to see how some plants have produced only small tubers while others have produced two large ones

I lifted my Cruickshanks dark leaf and broke off the 'fingers' of nexts years tuber. The roots coming from the growing point are OK. I hope I havent killed it.

Show us a pic, would like to see the details of such a daring deed!
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 03:43:03 PM
I've just replanted lots but I'll take them out again. Not daring at all.
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: Maggi Young on August 10, 2010, 03:44:36 PM
This subject is revisited, with photos in last week's Bulb Log:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Aug041280927654BULB_LOG__31comp.pdf


It really is better to be very gentle with the tubers and not break any "fingers".... better to lose the stem off the old tuber than that, as Ian  says.... but with luck the tuber will not die.


 Also :
 http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/110903/log.html
http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2006/230806/log.html - close pic of twisting off the stalk
http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2007/150807/log.html

http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2008/060808/log.html
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 10, 2010, 03:57:28 PM
Thanks Maggi, I saw that Bulb Log issue, but I only looked at the "rain hats" construction.  Mark, don't bother redigging, the Bulb Log has it well illustrated.
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 04:45:36 PM
Just realised Dactylorhiza flowers smell the same as the roots
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 05:06:35 PM
I bought this Dactylorhiza in 2006 at my first SRGC weekend and this is the first time it's been divided  ::)
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 05:13:14 PM
The most new tubers on one plant was 5. Four big ones and a tiny one.

I know this looks like any other Dactylorhiza but this is my variegated plant with a nice new tuber. Last year when I found it the tuber was about the size if a thumb nail.

Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 10, 2010, 05:18:51 PM
Looks very healthy, thanks for showing it.  I like the Ring o'Dactylorhiza, lots of divisions there!
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 05:22:31 PM
Mark it was the best way to show them. When I first tried Ian's method it worried me but now I do it quite fast. Some literally fall off when touched
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
Look at this for congestion
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 10, 2010, 06:36:35 PM
Previously I have mentioned how when removing moss I found Dactylorhiza roots on the surface. In some of my woodland troughs I have moss covered rotting mini logs. Dactylorhiza roots have grown in to the log.
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: annew on August 11, 2010, 09:55:45 AM
Do you know the parentage of your hybrid, Mark?
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: Tony Willis on August 11, 2010, 10:41:33 AM
Mark the roots that grow around the crown often grow almost vertically at first and this can be seen on your picture no4.They then grow along the surface just under the top dressing
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 12, 2010, 10:27:47 AM
Thanks Tony
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 17, 2010, 08:45:01 PM
I havent ignored Anne and phoned her
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 17, 2010, 08:49:40 PM
I finished my Dactylorhizas today.

This one was probably about two weeks or more late for dividing. The roots on the new tuber were very long with the 'fingers' going down deep

For me I think I should be lifting and dividing in mid to late July
Title: Re: dividing / multiplying Dactylorhizas
Post by: mark smyth on August 17, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
The last ones were growing in a trough with Galanthus and small Narcissus. Both were well rooted.
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