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Title: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 02, 2010, 08:13:16 PM
Well, that's got rid of July which presented us in South Devon with 18 rain days. It wasn't as bad as July 2009 which gave us 25. August started badly yesterday with rain for most of the day and Maureen put the heating on late in the afternoon, but today has been fine and warm, but cloudy, and more rain is due to come in tomorrow.

Apart from most of June it has been a depressing summer so far and from information I've seen there is little likelihood of extended periods of high pressure in August. No doubt when the kids go back to school September will be a heat wave!

Friends in the east of England seem to have had much better weather and that comes across reading the Forum. Some plants in the garden seem quite bemused including this Pulsatilla vulgaris that can't believe this is August.

Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: mark smyth on August 02, 2010, 09:08:58 PM
Speaking to my contact at Beeches Nursery in Essex he told me they have had only 2mm of rain this summer. David I think you, me and many others could send him some
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 02, 2010, 11:52:10 PM
We have had well over 200% average rainfall in Scotland for July! :(
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 06, 2010, 07:46:42 PM
August started well. It's now the 6th and we have had four rainy days. The bald chappie who takes his turn to do the weather forecasts on The Box after the news (the one who sometimes chairs Gardener's Question Time) said last night that apart from Sunday the whole of next week is one to forget. It seems that our wonderful June was as a result of the Jet Stream being well to the north of Great Britain and thus allowing high pressure zones to come in. Now though it lies slap across the middle of us and is allowing all the Atlantic lows in.

Today here it was raining when I got up with a heavy mist down from Dartmoor. I told Maureen that it wouldn't improve until at least 1700 but she didn't believe me. At 1700 the mist lifted the rain lightened and at 1800 it was fine. At 1900 it was raining again. Took a couple of pics through the spare bedroom window. In the gap between the houses across the road from me is a thickly wooded hill side which is one part of the southern escarpment of Dartmoor.

Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: angie on August 06, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
David we now have your mist in Aberdeen :'(

Angie :)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 06, 2010, 07:55:23 PM
I can see the trees ;D  (through the rain of course :(  )
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Armin on August 06, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
sunset about one hour ago
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 06, 2010, 10:43:57 PM
The view must be better round the corner from me. According to the sales blurb for a house that is on the market you can see the Grampians from the front drive! Wow! 100 miles! All I can see is Ben Lomond, Ben Ledi and the Braes of Doune wind farm, when it's not raining!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Gail on August 06, 2010, 10:47:24 PM
Beautiful Armin.

We've had a few drops of rain here but the pond is dry....
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: cohan on August 07, 2010, 02:22:25 AM
we haven't had as much rain as david, though  much of june and july were wet--in early july we had nearly the month's average in two days, and it didn't stop there! the last couple of weeks have been drier, so that i've had to water some seed pots; thunderstorm now and a bit of rain, we'll see how much, power has gone off and back on 3 times at least, and it was sounding a bit like hail, hopefully not, suns half out while it rumbles and drips.....

its funny day after day watching the national news and hearing about the endless heatwave covering north america! err--excuse me, not this part of north america! edmonton was talking about a record for the fewest days above 25C in july, and we have been cooler than edmonton! we've had some warm afternoons, but cool to downright nippy at night..
we had some hail a couple of weeks ago--not too big, but a lot of it, and it was so cool that evening, it lasted a full day in some shady spots,lost most of a pot of Corydalis nobilis seedlings--from frost, i think! lots of moderate damage from that one....
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Olga Bondareva on August 08, 2010, 07:15:06 PM
If anywhere is unneeded rain please blow it here. We get tired of smoke, sun, hot and dry.  :(

(http://cs924.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/31156622/x_01c0c037.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 08, 2010, 08:20:09 PM
I'm blowing ;D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: alpines on August 08, 2010, 08:59:12 PM
Originating from Manchester, you might be forgiven for thinking I've had as much rain as I could take in a lifetime, but after 6 weeks or so of temperatures in the 90s, I'll be out dancing with the first decent downpour.
It's 4pm here in Kentucky and the thermometer has just hit 94 degrees (34.4) again. Next week shows we are in for 4 days over 100 (38) with no sign of rain again.
......but then you have to think of Pakistan and those horrendous floods.
We are never satisfied, are we?
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 08, 2010, 09:04:56 PM
It is frightening to think of the terrible floods in Pakistan and the forest fires causing the awful smog in Russia... such extremes are so very destructive.... makes the British hobby of moaning about our weather seem pretty feeble.... :P

Hard to break such a longstanding habit, though....... :-X
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Armin on August 08, 2010, 10:18:03 PM
Thanks Gail,
had 35 mm rain the last two days. My cistern (7400 liter) is filled up. Snails are very active during nights >:(

Maggi,
the contrasts in the world between floods and droughts are awful.  I have no doubts world climate changes...
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Olga Bondareva on August 11, 2010, 08:15:43 AM
I'm blowing ;D

Thank you David!  ;D Some rain dropes fall down yesterday. Please blow more!  :D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: iann on August 13, 2010, 04:23:04 PM
A little hint as to how our weather is.  Six weeks ago this was a brown prairie.  Don't even mention the snails!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 14, 2010, 11:26:35 AM
We had a lovely day at Tentsmuir Forest (http://www.tentsmuir.org/) on the Fife coast yesterday. Sunny intervals, and the kids went into the sea for a swim. Heidi just ran and ran. We decided not to go along to see the seal colony, but a 1½ mile walk along the forest road to the ice house, where they used to store locally caught salmon was enjoyable. The ice house is now a hibernaculum for Natterer's bats. It was on this track, yesterday, that I saw my first Scottish comma butterfly, and my camera was in the car!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Panu on August 16, 2010, 11:19:09 PM
It´s autumn here now, I think. At the moment +6 C. Last Saturday we had officially 28 degrees, but our thermometer in shade said 31. Record from July +33 C. This summer has been lovely.

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Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: cohan on August 20, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
chilly and smokey--smoke blowing in from distant british columbia forest fires-hundreds of miles away! pics from yesterday, more at:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5641.new#new
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 20, 2010, 11:22:20 PM
After two nighttime rain showers, with a trifling amount of rain, the drought here deepens. Endless days of sunshine continue, 90 F yesterday (32 C) and humid yesterday, but a cool front went through, much drier air today and only 83 F (28 C), but gusty dry winds continue siphoning away any ground moisture.  We have a total outdoor water ban in effect until October, but I must admit to spending some hours filling a watering can in a desperate attempt to save my more prized plants... I feel like some sort of criminal while trying to sprinkle a bit of moisture on some plants.

A few photos.  My giant clump of Epimedium grandiflorum 'Red Queen', which measured almost 4' wide (120 cm) x 30" (75 cm) tall, has all but collapsed... I have stopped trying to water it, just hoping that the rhizomes and roots survive.  Then a couple shots of the crispy lawn, normally thick and green. 
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: cohan on August 21, 2010, 06:57:25 AM
After two nighttime rain showers, with a trifling amount of rain, the drought here deepens. Endless days of sunshine continue, 90 F yesterday (32 C) and humid yesterday, but a cool front went through, much drier air today and only 83 F (28 C), but gusty dry winds continue siphoning away any ground moisture.  We have a total outdoor water ban in effect until October, but I must admit to spending some hours filling a watering can in a desperate attempt to save my more prized plants... I feel like some sort of criminal while trying to sprinkle a bit of moisture on some plants.

A few photos.  My giant clump of Epimedium grandiflorum 'Red Queen', which measured almost 4' wide (120 cm) x 30" (75 cm) tall, has all but collapsed... I have stopped trying to water it, just hoping that the rhizomes and roots survive.  Then a couple shots of the crispy lawn, normally thick and green. 

hope you get some rain! i was feeling a little dry after a couple of weeks late july/early aug without much rain, but we haven't really been dry since  spring, which was crispy..
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 21, 2010, 10:33:38 AM
McMark, does your watering ban extend to the use of 'grey water' that you might recycle?
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: alpines on August 21, 2010, 12:32:44 PM
We live in an "automobile" society. It's OK to wash your car......but not the plants you've nurtured and spent thousands of dollars on.
Mark, I am amazed at how green it has remained in Kentucky. We have just recorded 28 days of 90 degree temperatures and our grass (no pictures, I'm sorry) is still as green as it was in Spring.....and we haven't artificially watered it. Strange !!!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: mark smyth on August 21, 2010, 12:54:19 PM
Mark is that a nest box on the pole?
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 21, 2010, 06:57:33 PM
It started raining here about 1430 on Thursday and since has hardly stopped. Not heavy stuff most of the time but a typical Devon mizzle with a mist. We've hardly been able to see across the road for the past two days.

As both of us were on the points of becoming stir crazy we went to Exeter today (about 30 miles up the road) to do some shopping to find blue sky, 24C and people walking about in shorts and tee shirts. I hate Ivybridge!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 21, 2010, 07:06:59 PM
It started raining here about 1430 on Thursday and since has hardly stopped. Not heavy stuff most of the time but a typical Devon mizzle with a mist. We've hardly been able to see across the road for the past two days.

As both of us were on the points of becoming stir crazy we went to Exeter today (about 30 miles up the road) to do some shopping to find blue sky, 24C and people walking about in shorts and tee shirts. I hate Ivybridge!!!!!!!
You're sure you haven't left the shower running upstairs......... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 21, 2010, 07:08:54 PM
Not likely, we're on a water meter, it's the Yorkshire blood yer know ;D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 22, 2010, 01:53:58 AM
Mark is that a nest box on the pole?

Yes, it is a blue bird house.  People in these parts have lots of open land, and they encourage the spaced placement of blue bird house to create "corridors" of blue bird habitat, there are even local organizations devoted to encouraging blue bird habitation.  My boxes only had bird birds a couple of times, typically the aggressive sparrows move it, and I never had time to remove their nests daily, nor do I kill the sparrows as some people do :-X.  Some years I had wrens or tree sparrows, the latter flashing iridescent green blue feathers as they so gracefully circle, a joy to watch.  Fortunately, the blue bird population has greatly increased in the 22 years at my location, and I get to see them daily for much of the year.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 22, 2010, 02:18:51 AM
We live in an "automobile" society. It's OK to wash your car......but not the plants...

Alan, how true.  It's getting depressing... hard to enjoy all the fine sunny days when it just refuses to rain, and even the weeds are dying.

Maggi, the idea of grey water is a good one, but not practical in my current situation.  My next door neighbor suggested taking empty buckets into the shower, although that might yield a mere two buckets, and yield a clumsy, somewhat silly showering scenario.  And they're using the rinse water from washing dishes on their vegetables, although they have all but given up, the ground is too dry overall and much more water is needed.  Spent 4 hours yesterday making about 120 trips hauling a watering can, and it barely made a dent, I have a sore shoulder, and I have already chosen which parts of the garden I will let go completely dry as there's no way I can hand water 1 acre of cultivated area with a watering can, given the depth of the drought.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 22, 2010, 10:20:51 AM
Yes, I can see that it isn't always easy to arrange grey water collection.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Carlo on August 23, 2010, 02:32:59 PM
I suspect that Mark's iridescent "tree sparrow" is actually a Tree Swallow (Tachycineta bicolor ). They are common users of bluebird houses and, here in central New Jersey, I've had both the Tree Swallows and Bluebirds raise successive broods in the same box! It's delightful to have them both around.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 23, 2010, 02:39:27 PM
It rained all day yesterday, the first day of rain since summer officially started (we've only had a few brief sprinkles all summer)!  Today, we're into our second day of rain...unheard of!  Yay!!!  The trick was to have a house full of relatives drive up from Maryland 480 miles away and stay with us, with lots of going-to-the-beach plans, now its very cool and rainy... the young ones (7 and 10) will be bouncing off the walls ;D

Many plants, such as drifts of Cimicifuga simplex/ramosa (atropurpurea group), are drought damaged with top growth basically wiped out for the season, but with some rain, hopefully the thickened rhizomes will be okay to persist through winter to rise again in a new year.

Going for a long-awaited run in the rain :) ::)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 23, 2010, 02:41:08 PM
I suspect that Mark's iridescent "tree sparrow" is actually a Tree Swallow (Tachycineta bicolor ). They are common users of bluebird houses and, here in central New Jersey, I've had both the Tree Swallows and Bluebirds raise successive broods in the same box! It's delightful to have them both around.

Thanks Carlo, can't believe I said "sparrow", meant "swallow" of course... we get several types of swallows here, including barn swallows from neighbors who have horse barns.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 23, 2010, 02:54:15 PM
While I do, truly, have sympathy for your house-guests, McMark, I do hope the rain continues for a looonnnnnngggggg time!  8)


 We've just been rained off from pruning/shredding here in Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: SusanS on August 23, 2010, 05:21:02 PM
We had a hosepipe ban imposed in mid July and it has rained nearly everyday since. :-\

The ban was lifted at the end of last week, so we are now hoping for some sunshine  8)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 23, 2010, 05:50:11 PM
Our weather did improve, albeit briefly, when the children went back to school !
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 23, 2010, 07:34:50 PM
We had a hosepipe ban imposed in mid July and it has rained nearly everyday since. :-\

The ban was lifted at the end of last week, so we are now hoping for some sunshine  8)




...... I bought a straw hat at the tail end of the June heatwave and so far have only worn it one day!
A rare old storm during the night here with torrential rain, thunder, the lot followed by steady rain throughout the morning. Re-potted some more of my summmer moisture tolerant Crocuses in the dry spell (which lasted about a couple of hours!) this afternoon, it was like going through porridge.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: ashley on August 23, 2010, 10:31:37 PM
...... I bought a straw hat at the tail end of the June heatwave and so far have only worn it one day!

No wonder David, tempting fate like that ;) 
Next year maybe try an umbrella ;D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: shelagh on August 24, 2010, 10:45:16 AM
Don't be silly Susan, keep your wellies by the door. It is absolutely pppersisting down here.  We need a little face with a brolly over it. :'(
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 24, 2010, 10:56:42 AM
Don't be silly Susan, keep your wellies by the door. It is absolutely pppersisting down here.  We need a little face with a brolly over it. :'(

As you wish, Shelagh......

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... it's raining here, too....... :'(
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on August 24, 2010, 12:46:25 PM
and here....can't believe August has rained virtually every day so far.  I'm doing a sundance  :D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 24, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
While I do, truly, have sympathy for your house-guests, McMark, I do hope the rain continues for a looonnnnnngggggg time!  8)

 We've just been rained off from pruning/shredding here in Aberdeen.

Well, it didn't pan out into much rain :'(  Day 1 was light rain, maybe 1/4".  Day 2, it was cool, moody, misty, and breezy, but just mist... no real rain, no appreciable accumulation of precip. Day 3 (today), continued cool (60 F), cloudy, moody, and breezy, not even any misty rain, it's dry and overcast.  I'll take the little bit we got, but we need so much more rain.  The cool air is such a pleasant break from the continuous sun and heat.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: shelagh on August 24, 2010, 05:55:57 PM
Brilliant Maggi, thanks.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 24, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
Brilliant Maggi, thanks.
My pleasure, Shelagh, I couldn't bear to see you [attach=1]
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: angie on August 24, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
Maggi I just love that, where on earth do you find them.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on August 25, 2010, 09:17:31 AM
Maggi I just love that, where on earth do you find them.

Angie :)

The're not "on earth" Angie... Maggi finds them in Cyberspace !  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: angie on August 25, 2010, 09:53:07 AM
Maggi I just love that, where on earth do you find them.

Angie :)

The're not "on earth" Angie... Maggi finds them in Cyberspace !  ;D ;D ;)

 ;D ;D ;D

Angie  :)


Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Tony Willis on August 25, 2010, 03:35:51 PM
First day since we got back of holiday six weeks ago that it has not rained(yet) Looks menacing at the moment so little hope for later.

Been out and mowed the moss with water splashing over the tops of my shoes.

Thank goodness the hosepipe ban has been lifted
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: SusanS on August 25, 2010, 08:49:02 PM
We are hoping for a bit of decent weather for the bank holiday weekend.  A friend is walking the length of Hadrian's wall dressed as a roman soldier to raise money for charity - (cancer research).  He will be carrying a full pack weighing 90lb, sleeping under his cloak and eating what are known to have been typical soldiers rations.

He will be in Carlisle town centre Thursday afternoon to chat to people before starting the walk on Friday morning.  He is planning to be in the Hexham area Sunday evening and Monday morning. We know there are lots of Rockers in Northumberland.  So if you are in the area and see him give him a cheery wave as I think he will be a bit footsore by then.  
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on August 25, 2010, 09:47:52 PM
Your Friend is not sparing himself for this challenge, is he? A 90lb pack is only a little lighter than Ian! Hope the weather holds and he has a successful walk for such a good cause.  8)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Lvandelft on August 25, 2010, 11:29:35 PM
We don't complain about the weather here. Well today it started to rain in the evening and forecast say much rain tomorrow.
But every day we have some sunny spells and temps are mostly around 20C.
Here near the coast we have about 100 more hours sun than inland  :D and in the evening after a cloudy day the sun is coming most of the days.
Here some pictures from yesterday towards the North Sea:
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Gail on August 26, 2010, 09:54:53 AM
Beautiful pictures Luit!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 26, 2010, 07:27:55 PM
Luit, thanks for the reminder I'd quite forgotten what it looks like!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Lvandelft on August 26, 2010, 10:56:20 PM
Well David,today I did only see grey and wet. Pouring down in the morning so heavy. Not seen this before during the whole summer.
The channels filled up almost to the edge. And more expected tonight. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: arillady on August 27, 2010, 11:21:31 AM
Our river was flowing well for the first time in a few years yesterday after 30mls of rain. Please excuse all the weeds in the front garden. Just have not had the time to get out there.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Olga Bondareva on August 27, 2010, 08:28:03 PM
 :)
(http://cs378.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/31156622/x_2356f0d6.jpg)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on August 27, 2010, 08:51:27 PM
Wonderful image Olga, the rainbow arc is superb over the bush - there is hope for better weather for you then after all the fires :D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 28, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

It didn't rain yesterday ;D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on August 28, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

IT IS SUNNY TODAY  ;D
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 28, 2010, 04:11:48 PM
..........and tomorrow is Sunday with outbreaks of Monday occurring around midnight! ::)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 28, 2010, 10:42:44 PM
And tomorrow, Sunday, it's going to be sunny and HOT, and stay HOT all week, sun, sun, and more sun, when will it ever end?. At least it is low humidity and with cool night temps that make it comfortable for sleeping.  My daughter starts back at school (senior year) on Wednesday, with the predicted high to be near 100 F; of course schools have no air conditioning.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: cohan on August 30, 2010, 02:42:47 AM
the weather station in the nearest town (20miles) recorded -2C last night, though no evidence of frost here; today's high was 9 or 10C, the rest of the week 11 to 17, cloudy and at least some chance of rain most days... 20C is 'normal' and last year at this time we were nearer 30C!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: J.B.Wyllie on August 30, 2010, 06:51:10 AM
Frost on lid of my recycling box this AM but thermometer a few ft away was +1
Bright sunny day now
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 30, 2010, 08:53:30 AM
Didn't reach double figures until I reached Falkirk (well, the chicken roundabout at Laurieston) at 8.45 a.m. this morning!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on August 30, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
My Alpines, grown from seed, are now juniors and basking in their sunlight spot this morning - grateful for a bit of warmth, as am I  :)

Only two days of sunshine with cloud in August  :o  Autumn is in the air, berries ripening and the first tinges of colour in turning leaves.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 30, 2010, 02:47:26 PM
I think the day and a half of rain we had last week, the first measurable rainfall in over 2 months, was merely a tease.  We seem to be right back into the consistent pattern of hot, dry, sunny days... those bluebird days someone was speaking of.  I believe we're getting turkey days instead ( http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5874.msg164581#msg164581 )

1  Not a cloud in the sky, ho hum, so typical,  I long for a good rainy day.
2  Carex and a fried Epimedium grandiflorum f. flavescens variety, some "eppies" tolerate drought, others don't.
3. fried Cimicifuga simplex (atropurpurea group), large swathes of these beauties burnt up.  Notice Saruma henryi doesn't mind drought!
4. Cimicifuga simplex flower spike; in areas with flatter ground, the 1-1/2 days of rain resurrected some plants and they started popping into flower, although most of the foliage looks dreadful.
5.  Updated weather forecast... doesn't that little blazing sun icon conjure up images of being left for dead in a desert? :P
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Armin on August 30, 2010, 11:49:57 PM
Mark,
a pity to see your 'babies' suffering from the drought :'(
Opposite, we had ~ 130 Liter/m² (130mm) rainfall last week here with a peak of 45L/m² within 1 hour last Friday and 71 L/m² within 24hrs accompanied by a sharp temperature drop from average 25°C day temperatures to low 12°C today...brrr. :'( >:(
Could you lend us some sunshine from your wheather forecast? ;)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 30, 2010, 11:54:56 PM
We had clear blue skies here today, but only 19oC.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on August 31, 2010, 04:05:56 AM
Mark,
a pity to see your 'babies' suffering from the drought :'(
Opposite, we had ~ 130 Liter/m² (130mm) rainfall last week here with a peak of 45L/m² within 1 hour last Friday and 71 L/m² within 24hrs accompanied by a sharp temperature drop from average 25°C day temperatures to low 12°C today...brrr. :'( >:(
Could you lend us some sunshine from your wheather forecast? ;)

Well, sometimes it is feast or famine; our hot dry streak is supposed to end on Friday by the arrival of Hurricane Earl ::)  It's too early to tell if New England and the Boston, Massachusetts area will be side-swiped by the storm or if it'll be more of a direct hit.  The sheer absurdity, after the months-long weather extreme of heat and drought slamming up against another weather extreme; a hurricane!  With the advanced notice, I think I'll be covering some new sloped garden areas with tarps and large boulder anchors to prevent wash-outs. *%^$#@!

A link to the New York Wall Street Journal article showing the projected path of Hurricane Earl just refuses to work, so I upload a PDF file with the article, and an image file of the projected path.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on August 31, 2010, 09:49:55 AM
mark if that curves East, and they often do, I'll hit a wet and windy spell Monday evening/Tuesday morning.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: angie on August 31, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
We had clear blue skies here today, but only 19oC.
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Anthony stop moaning ;)Blue skies and DRY I would love 25c everyday but I am happy that's it's dry.

Mark it must be so much more work for you, it's a pity we couldn't  share our weather a bit like we share our plants. I hope you don't lose to much plants. I have heard from some people that there has been a frost already in Scotland :o I can't remember ever having a frost in August but maybe someone out there can.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: johnw on August 31, 2010, 04:02:28 PM
Mark - At least you are on the west side of the track of Hurricane Earl!

Surfers are swarming our beaches as waves are to 3m high, that's caused by the passing of H. Danielle to our south a few days ago.  Water temp is circa 22c.  It's smoking hot here, 30c yesterday and today, I was inland yesterday and it was 33c. Last night's low here was 24c, very unusual for the coast and felt quite tropical - scent of flowers was overwhelming.  Seems like the perfect scenario for Hurricane hit.  Desperately needing the rain.

Let's hope this nasty one veers further east as they are hinting today.

johnw
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: cohan on August 31, 2010, 07:46:11 PM
frost on the car and roof of old house this morning, but the zucchini (and everything else) showing no effects..
today's forecast high 15C with 30% chance of showers/thunderstorms later on; right now sunny and lovely, but already thunderclouds visible this side of the rockies.... tomorrow 11 and cloudy; 21 by weeks end!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 31, 2010, 11:40:35 PM
We've had frost in Dunblane the last few mornings. Too cold too soon!
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on September 01, 2010, 03:52:31 AM
Mark - At least you are on the west side of the track of Hurricane Earl!

Surfers are swarming our beaches as waves are to 3m high, that's caused by the passing of H. Danielle to our south a few days ago.  Water temp is circa 22c.  It's smoking hot here, 30c yesterday and today, I was inland yesterday and it was 33c. Last night's low here was 24c, very unusual for the coast and felt quite tropical - scent of flowers was overwhelming.  Seems like the perfect scenario for Hurricane hit.  Desperately needing the rain.

Let's hope this nasty one veers further east as they are hinting today.

johnw

This tracking of this Category 4 hurricane keeps changing; at some point today they were predicted a straight landfall hit on Nova Scotia, the latest is that it might actually go more west and hit landfall at Providence, Rhode Island (60 miles due south of here!), which points the storm directly at us.  The National Weather Service still has Nova Scotia as a direct hit on Saturday afternoon, with sustained winds of 74-110 mph.  There is still talk of a major west-to-east weather front that, depending on timing, may push the hurricane further east out to sea; let's hope that is the case.

Next two days is dedicated to batten down the hatches, starting with my Mom's house tomorrow, to secure all garden/yard furniture, BBQ grilles, trash barrels, anything that can become airborne.  John, you probably need to do the same!  Meanwhile, the heat continues, 95 F (35 C) today, tonight it is still 79 F (26 C), so leaving the air conditional on all night.  Predicted high for the next two days is 98-99 F (37 C).  I agree John, the extra warm air, and warming ocean temperatures, are cited as contributing to the intensity of this hurricane.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 01, 2010, 09:59:34 AM
What's a trash barrel?
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: arillady on September 01, 2010, 10:21:23 AM
A rubbish bin Anthony I should imagine.
Thank goodness we don't get proper hurricanes here in South Oz - the occasional big blow rarely.
It is hard to believe that you are getting such high temps in your part of the world
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: johnw on September 01, 2010, 01:20:33 PM
Mark - Air conditioning?  I don't know of a single house here with it.

Yes we will start battening down the hatches tomorrow.  We remember Juan in 2003 that came ashore right at Halifax.  A 22 year old Cornus florida from Weston Nurseries in the yard was pulled bareroot from the ground and landed in the neighbor's yard 2 doors up the street.  The power was off for 13 days.

The local Hurricane Centre - which by the way had to be evacuated in Juan - says Earl will go straight up the Bay Of Fundy. Those to its immediate south and east will get the worst of it.  This is almost the same scenario as Juan, it too had a low pressure front coming in from the west at the same time.  That gave us an additional 4 inches of rain a couple of hours after the Juan devastation!

I heard on the radio this morning there has been ocean seas smoke at night, warmer than the air in many parts of the province.

Fingers crossed.

johnw
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Martin Baxendale on September 01, 2010, 01:35:07 PM
Fingers crossed for you John and Mark.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 01, 2010, 01:55:53 PM
Interesting they still call it a hurricane that far north.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2010, 02:12:00 PM
Interesting they still call it a hurricane that far north.

Why wouldn't they?

 Both Canada and USA have "National Hurricane Centres" ...... is it not only in the Indian Ocean and the Southern hemisphere that such storms are mostly referred to as cyclones  rather than hurricanes or typhoons?


 Best of luck to all those of you at risk from this fierce weather..... it has certainly stopped my typically British whinging about our weather ( well, for the moment, at least  :-[ )
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 01, 2010, 02:37:16 PM
It must be awful waiting and wondering, quite apart from all the preparation to make things as safe as possible ::)  Good luck John & McMark and anyone else in the hurricane path, thinking of you.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: angie on September 01, 2010, 03:00:44 PM
Hope all will be ok, I can imagine how scary it must be.
We have a forrest behind us and I couldn't believe how trees could just fall over and I remember the noise of the trees cracking after 8 hours of gale force winds there were twenty seven trees across the road, thank god they all fell the other way and not on top of the house.
I hope everything will be ok, my friends in Texas have had to board their house up so many times and she said it's the noise that is so scary.

Yes Maggi when you hear this it makes us stop moaning about our weather, gale force winds are bad enough I can't and wouldn't like to imagine what going through a hurricane would be like.

Take care

Angie :)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on September 01, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
These hurricanes are part of the late summer and autumn season, but they typically follow other tracks making them of little concern in New England.  But watching the track can be disconcerting with the uncertainty, and the projected track ever changing.  The latest projection has it just catching the Cape Cod area of Massachusetts (the brunt of the storm missing us), but once again showing St. John, Nova Scotia New Brunswick :-[ in a direct path.  For those wondering, a hurricane is classified as such when sustained winds of a tropical storm are "greater than 64 knots (74 miles per hour; 119 kilometers per hour per hour), according to the Beaufort scale".  Hurricanes almost always go north.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 01, 2010, 03:45:32 PM
Interesting they still call it a hurricane that far north.

Why wouldn't they?

 Both Canada and USA have "National Hurricane Centres" ...... is it not only in the Indian Ocean and the Southern hemisphere that such storms are mostly referred to as cyclones  rather than hurricanes or typhoons?


 Best of luck to all those of you at risk from this fierce weather..... it has certainly stopped my typically British whinging about our weather ( well, for the moment, at least  :-[ )
I just assumed that a hurricane was defined as a storm of that force passing through the Caribbean and once it had left the tropics, regardless of whether the winds remained hurricane force or not, it was no longer called a hurricane. A bit like Michael Fish saying there will not be a hurricane tonight - the night when Sevenoaks in Kent became two oaks. I can see from Mark's tracking pic that there is no reason not to call it a hurricane if it is still a b****y great big circular storm of a certain magnitude.
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: johnw on September 01, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
Interesting they still call it a hurricane that far north.

And this is why Anthony - a few shots of our street the morning after Juan, 29 September 2003...

Mark - the hottest day I have ever witnessed here 33c here though our shaded thermometers in the yard read 37. I may sleep in the car tonight (with air-conditioning).  You may mean Saint John, New Brunswick.

johnw
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on September 01, 2010, 09:19:13 PM

..... Best of luck to all those of you at risk from this fierce weather..... it has certainly stopped my typically British whinging about our weather ( well, for the moment, at least  :-[ )

I shall forever stop whinging too (well I wont really) ;D  Best of luck John and Mark keep safe.

Bet we get the tail end of this lot sometime next week. (there you go, another whinge!)
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on September 01, 2010, 10:21:06 PM

Mark - the hottest day I have ever witnessed here 33c here though our shaded thermometers in the yard read 37. I may sleep in the car tonight (with air-conditioning).  You may mean Saint John, New Brunswick.

johnw

Dang, my dyslexic tendencies again it doing.... I mean, doing it again.  Just got back from the neighbors pool, somehow the 94 C temperature today doesn't feel so bad.

David, looked up "whinging", hadn't heard that one before. I now have my daily quota of learning something new ;) 
British : to complain fretfully : whine
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: cohan on September 02, 2010, 06:16:12 AM

..... Best of luck to all those of you at risk from this fierce weather..... it has certainly stopped my typically British whinging about our weather ( well, for the moment, at least  :-[ )

I shall forever stop whinging too (well I wont really) ;D  Best of luck John and Mark keep safe.

Bet we get the tail end of this lot sometime next week. (there you go, another whinge!)

maggi and david--perhaps you could use the phrase i often comfort myself and others with in this area-- : "We get a lot of miserable  but not much deadly" (of course you might disagree about our cold weather being deadly ;) but far fewer people die in the cold here than in the heat down south!)

john and mark--best of luck with this, they were just talking about it on the national news.. they mentioned a 10% chance that it will be as bad in nova scotia as juan was....
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 02, 2010, 09:35:17 AM
21°C - sunshine - no wind, wonderful bit of Indian Summer here at the moment !  :D

I do hope all turns out well with that dreaded hurricane for everyone at the other side of the pool though !!  :-\
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: angie on September 02, 2010, 01:39:37 PM
Just heard on our news about Hurricane Earl winds of 145 miles. I hope everyone will be okay.
Thinking of you all and looking forward to hear that you are all safe and well.

Angie  :-[
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 02, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
Sunny outside. Just had a yifty in DET (used to be tech drawing) where the temperature was 32oC! Now back in my room where it is only 29oC! Computing, Business Ed. and Home economics rooms have air conditioning but not DET or Science! Feel like doing another 'screaming jelly babies' experiment and put the inappropriate science corridor fire detector (it is a smoke detector where it should be a heat detector) to use, as it was yesterday. ;D Not me, I hasten to add, but we are now to do the expt. in a fume cupboard! ::) This school building, now just over 10 years old, is so badly designed. Nothing that a few sticks of dynamite couldn't sort. The so called architect had, by his own admission, never designed a school before. You can tell. Half the rooms face south, so get the full force of the sun. Even in December they can reach 30oC! The geniuses at Falkirk Council tried to sort it out by putting a dark see through film, as a trial, on the windows of one room. On a sunny day an infrared detector records IR radiation entering my room at around 38oC! The modified room recorded 58oC! Funny how they didn't know that a dark film would absorb and radiate heat more than clear glass! Peeling the film off leaves a horrendous mess where the adhesive is left on the glass. The only way to cool the room is to close the vertical blinds OR open the windows. Doing both is counter productive as the blinds (which are white, so useless when using the data projector as there is no black out - kids can't see your carefully produced slides etc.) as the heat builds up and the ventilation is nil. :( Better to open the windows and blinds and put a rotating fan on to circulate the hot air. When the school was opened went went through the process of recording our maximum temperatures. Apparently there is no maximum working environment temperature, only a minimum (16oC by 10.30 a.m.) so that was a waste of time. We do have ventilation grills in each room, but they might as well be some boring modern art (you know the sort "it's art because I say it's art" but in actual fact it's crap because I say it's crap) as it's blocked up. >:(
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 02, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
SAID HANRAHAN by John O'Brien

"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
  In accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began,
  One frosty Sunday morn.


The congregation stood about,
  Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought,
  As it had done for years.


"It's looking crook," said Daniel Croke;
  "Bedad, it's cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke
  Has seasons been so bad."


"It's dry, all right," said young O'Neil,
  With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
  And chewed a piece of bark.


And so around the chorus ran
  "It's keepin' dry, no doubt."
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
  "Before the year is out."


"The crops are done; ye'll have your work
  To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o'-Bourke
  They're singin' out for rain.


"They're singin' out for rain," he said,
  "And all the tanks are dry."
The congregation scratched its head,
  And gazed around the sky.


"There won't be grass, in any case,
  Enough to feed an ass;
There's not a blade on Casey's place
  As I came down to Mass."


"If rain don't come this month," said Dan,
  And cleared his throat to speak -
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
  "If rain don't come this week."


A heavy silence seemed to steal
  On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
  And chewed a piece of bark.


"We want an inch of rain, we do,"
  O'Neil observed at last;
But Croke "maintained" we wanted two
  To put the danger past.


"If we don't get three inches, man,
  Or four to break this drought,
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
  "Before the year is out."


In God's good time down came the rain;
  And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
  It drummed a homely tune.


And through the night it pattered still,
  And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
  Kept talking to themselves.


It pelted, pelted all day long,
  A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
  Way out to Back-o'-Bourke.


And every creek a banker ran,
  And dams filled overtop;
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
  "If this rain doesn't stop."


And stop it did, in God's good time;
  And spring came in to fold
A mantle o'er the hills sublime
  Of green and pink and gold.


And days went by on dancing feet,
  With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
  Nid-nodding o'er the fence.


And, oh, the smiles on every face,
  As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey's place
  Went riding down to Mass.


While round the church in clothes genteel
  Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
  And chewed his piece of bark.


"There'll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
  There will, without a doubt;
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
  "Before the year is out."
Title: Re: Weather- August 2010
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 07, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
Paddy,
I had no idea that J.O'B was known on your side of the world!
"Hanrahan" is a favourite of mine but I hadn't read it for awhile, Thanks!
cheers
fermi
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