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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 10:43:14 AM

Title: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 10:43:14 AM
Here is the first blooming for me of Scadoxus cinnabarinus. It comes from tropical Africa so it is not suited for a typical English rock garden!  :-[ Sorry.

Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: bulborum on July 16, 2010, 10:52:22 AM
But good for a nice pot next your rock garden
very nice salmon colour
are there later seeds available ???

Your Crinum I bought from you is doing very well here

Roland

Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 11:02:32 AM
Roland, I have never sold Crinum to anyone! I think I am not the people you are referring!
Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Renate Brinkers on July 16, 2010, 01:25:33 PM
Hi to all,
some Scadoxus pictures.
The first one, Scadoxus `König Albert´is an old Hybrid of Scadoxus multiflorus ssp. katherinae x Scadoxus puniceus. It flowers with the leaves in summer and reaches up to 60cm. The leaves are waved as S.puniceus.
The second plant is (99% sure) Scadoxus multiflorus ssp.katherinae, the difference you can see at the leaves, they are not waved, more like the leaves of S.multiflorus. It also flowers whith the leaves.
The hight is 60cm.
S.m.ssp.multiflorus just grows 30cm high and flowers in spring, before leaves emerge. See pictures to compare.
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Renate Brinkers on July 16, 2010, 01:28:15 PM
Alberto,

wonderful picture of S.cinnabarinus. Hopefully mine will flower next year but this year I am glad to have some other Scadoxus flowering. Did you also made the experience that the summer flowering Scadoxus only flowering really good in really hot summers?
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 01:37:26 PM
Renate, here summers are always hot  8)
Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Renate Brinkers on July 16, 2010, 01:39:19 PM
Alberto,

so it should be Scadoxus paradise!
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
Send me all your Scadoxus, at least to spend the summer time!  ;)
Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 01:57:05 PM
They are very fine!
please handle to have seeds!

Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: angie on July 16, 2010, 01:59:46 PM
Here is the first blooming for me of Scadoxus cinnabarinus. It comes from tropical Africa so it is not suited for a typical English rock garden!  :-[ Sorry.

Alberto

Not for the English rock garden, but maybe the Scottish rock garden would be ok ;D ;D ;D

Lovely flower Alberto, maybe grown in a pot in the greenhouse would be ok...you are lucky to be able to grown these plants outdoors.
Thanks for sharing this with us.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 02:04:15 PM
Angie, there is a misunderstanding: Italy is not in the tropics! I grow my Scadoxus  in pot.
Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: bulborum on July 16, 2010, 02:13:04 PM
Hello Renate

Good to see you at the forum again
speak you soon

Roland
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 16, 2010, 02:52:28 PM
 :o Wow Alberto  :o

Did you make the flower with wax or with paper ( origami ) ?

what a lot of work  ::)
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 02:59:33 PM
Hans, you usually tell me I am not patient  :) You should try to fold all those little piece of paper! and then to mount together so you have not to see the glue!  ;D The more difficult is the colour!

Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on July 16, 2010, 03:04:44 PM
Hans, you usually tell me I am not patient  :) You should try to fold all those little piece of paper! and then to mount together so you have not to see the glue!  ;D The more difficult is the colour!

Alberto

 Hans, don't listen to Alberto.... he is lying to you... anyone can see that this flower is for sure made of WAX and not paper!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 16, 2010, 03:10:54 PM
Maggi - yes you are right   ;)

This flower is made from wax ....I know the color ( from my earlier profession  ;D ;D ;D )

Alberto : I did not know that you are be so skilful  :P

I'm really a bit surprised about this color ...cinnabarinus means :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnabar
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 03:30:21 PM
Hans, many thanks for your kind ( :-X) words!
Maggi: I didn't expect from you  :( a stab in the back...

Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on July 16, 2010, 03:38:18 PM
Hans, many thanks for your kind ( :-X) words!
Maggi: I didn't expect from you  :( a stab in the back...

Alberto
Alberto, I had to do it.... there was a danger to Forumists from trying with paper and scissors to copy this plant... too dangerous for most of them to be allowed sharp objects!!  ;)
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 16, 2010, 04:47:48 PM

I'm really a bit surprised about this color ...cinnabarinus means :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnabar
Hans, the cinnabar colour is: bright red colour tinted with orange.
This can satisfy you?  :)
Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on July 16, 2010, 06:56:59 PM
When I think of the colour of Rhododendron cinnabarinum it is a also more orange/red than what I have in my mind's eye as cinnarbar.... which is certainly more a cinnabar RED!
Here are two examples....
[attach=1] ..... the common ore of mercury

[attach=2].... a lacquer carving on gold
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 16, 2010, 08:06:39 PM
Alberto ,

I'm really familar with this color ( cinnabar ) from my cacti - there is a plant which is called Lobivia cinnabarina - here is a scann from a old book ( Curtis Botanical Magacin 1847 )
This color is really different from your flower color !

Also there exist some pics in the web from this plants :
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Scadoxus
http://www.luphen.org.uk/public/2003/2003kewgardens1.htm
http://www.meemelink.com/prints%20pages/12738.Amaryllidacea%20-%20Haemanthus%20cinnabarinus.htm

In the description of this Taxon is written : inflorescence spherical with numerous pink or red flowers

....so it seems you have more the pink clone

Hans
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Renate Brinkers on July 16, 2010, 10:45:01 PM
Send me all your Scadoxus, at least to spend the summer time!  ;)
Alberto


continue to dream  :)
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Renate Brinkers on July 16, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
Alberto,

I will try my best to get seed. I have some seedling from another try with König Albert, just a few but you can see differences. Some are spotted, some not.

And in the meantime I will try some Origami.

Roland,
nice to meet you here  :)

Hans,
if you ask 10 people: Which colour is this? Be sure, you get 10 different opinions.

Maggi: thanks for putting together what should be not separated.
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Paul T on July 17, 2010, 12:09:46 AM
Hans, many thanks for your kind ( :-X) words!
Maggi: I didn't expect from you  :( a stab in the back...

Alberto
Alberto, I had to do it.... there was a danger to Forumists from trying with paper and scissors to copy this plant... too dangerous for most of them to be allowed sharp objects!!  ;)

Maggi,

So instead you have these same forumists now working with hot wax and risking burns?  :o :o :o :o  I'm not sure that the sharp objects weren't a better idea? ;D
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Alberto on July 17, 2010, 08:32:18 AM

In the description of this Taxon is written : inflorescence spherical with numerous pink or red flowers

....so it seems you have more the pink clone

Hans
Hans, so it looks now I have to find the red one too! 8)
Ciao
Alberto
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 17, 2010, 08:36:45 AM
Alberto ,

if you are not like this pink clone ....please send it to me  ;D

Ciao
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on July 17, 2010, 10:31:11 AM
Hans, many thanks for your kind ( :-X) words!
Maggi: I didn't expect from you  :( a stab in the back...

Alberto
Alberto, I had to do it.... there was a danger to Forumists from trying with paper and scissors to copy this plant... too dangerous for most of them to be allowed sharp objects!!  ;)

Oh dear........ it wasn't my best day, was it?  :'(

Maggi,

So instead you have these same forumists now working with hot wax and risking burns?  :o :o :o :o  I'm not sure that the sharp objects weren't a better idea? ;D

Oh dear........ it wasn't my best day, was it?  :'(
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on July 17, 2010, 07:09:57 PM
It'll be lost on them but whenever Hans and Alberto entertain us with their badinage my thoughts always turn to Morecambe and Wise ;D
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 17, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
David :

What is Morecambe and Wise  ???
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on July 17, 2010, 07:39:36 PM
Hans, Morecambe and Wise were a famous and much loved British comedy double act throughout the 1960's, 70's and early 80's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP8TUe993uo
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 17, 2010, 07:49:04 PM
ahhhh -we are a comedy double  ::)
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Hans J on July 21, 2010, 12:24:04 PM
Maggi ,Alberto and all

here is a pic of a cacti with exactly the color ( Lobivia cinnabarina )
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: pehe on September 24, 2010, 09:11:57 AM
Back to the Scadoxus ;)

Scadoxus mulitiflorus flowering among Sternbergias in my greenhouse.

Poul
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Paul T on September 24, 2010, 11:26:59 AM
I have Scadoxus pouniceus 'Magnificus' just about to open here at the moment, but not open enough to post a pic as yet.
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: angie on September 24, 2010, 10:21:24 PM
Wow Paul it's like a firework  8)

Angie :)
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: pehe on September 26, 2010, 07:18:19 AM
Yes Angie, but a bit early for Guy Fawkes day ;D

Poul
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Tony Willis on October 12, 2010, 06:25:21 PM
I bought this as Haemanthus sp. at the RHS Tatton show and am sure it is now Scadoxus multiflorus.

I am pleased with it,the colour is deeper in real life.
Title: Re: Scadoxus 2010
Post by: Renate Brinkers on November 21, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
Tony,

saw you post just today. You are right, it is S.multiflorus, here in Germany most of the sold S.multiflorus are still named as Haemanthus.
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