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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: David Nicholson on July 02, 2010, 01:45:02 PM
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Another lost label plant and try as I may I can't remember buying it! Addled brain ;D Possibly a Mimulus but would welcome some advice.
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I don't think it's a Mimulus, David.... a.n. other scrophulariaceae..... I'm thinking more like a Rhinanthus of some kind... with the hooded flower and furry leaves...... sorry I can't be more useful :-\
I think the lower lip is too wide for it to be a simple Rhinanthus minor but perhaps it is that......
PS, this is where Diane tells me that the "Rattles" are now in the Orobanchaceae ! :P ;D
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Mmmmm. I can see the similarities in the flower Maggi but according to what I have found on Google Rhinanthus minor, or Yellow Rattle, grows to 25-50cm high. My plant is reasonably prostrate and the leaves are glaucous, they see to be green in Rhinanthus minor. I certainly haven't bought a Rhinanthus either?
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Well quite, David... your plant is little and furry and too cute to be a simple Rattle in my view..... but I don't know any better.... we need an expert! ;)
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David could it be a pedicularis,its a super thing.
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Dunno Dave. Just Googled and they appear to be a lot taller than my little plant. I haven't bought a Pedicularis either. Whatever it is I suppose the birds could have brought it but I have to say that it looks planted rather than dropped.
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Scutellaria orientalis, in one of its many forms.
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Huurah! I knew we needed an expert!
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Huurah! I knew we needed an expert!
i agree maggie,but there's nothing like having ago ;D
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Huurah! I knew we needed an expert!
i agree maggie,but there's nothing like having ago ;D
Quite so, Davey, we were showing willing, eh? ;)
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You were both very willing Maggi and Dave, and thank you. Thanks too to Aaron for hitting the nail on the head. I still can't remember buying it but maybe I picked it up from the plant sale at the South West AGS Show, seems very refined for me! ;D Question now is can I expect it to survive our wet winter?
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Some forms have greener leaves, this grey is very nice (harvest any seed David). Usually (here) the leaves are partially deciduous which probably makes it reasonably hardy but being grey it might like a glass over it. It grows magnificently in disturbed gravel at the sides of mountian roads in Greece, flowering in summer but no doubt covered with snow in winter. We saw it on the way to a ski field.
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I don't think it's a Mimulus, David.... a.n. other scrophulariaceae..... I'm thinking more like a Rhinanthus of some kind... with the hooded flower and furry leaves...... sorry I can't be more useful :-\
I think the lower lip is too wide for it to be a simple Rhinanthus minor but perhaps it is that......
PS, this is where Diane tells me that the "Rattles" are now in the Orobanchaceae ! :P ;D
Flippin' heck! I get worse.... just thinking about the Scutellaria ...... it's in LAMIACEAE isn't it? I give up, my brain cells are obviously giving up the ghost! :-[ :'(
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I've never seen a Rhinanthus except in pictures and didn't know it was also known as a Rattle. Sir Simon Rhinanthus? ???
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Can I distract this thread?
Here a lovely Mimulus I saw today. I was told the name but it went in one ear and out the other. It's about 60cm 2 feet high
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Looks sort of like a looser taller growing Mimulus cupreus, but I'm no Mimulus expert by a long shot:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/141/33607.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/141/33595.html&h=540&w=720&sz=61&tbnid=7c48VyVr3I8pfM:&tbnh=105&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmimulus%2Bcupreus&hl=en&usg=__lVDqfdEP2QsmK3TrcPmjs8xq3oo=&sa=X&ei=AwEwTIyFCcXflgfV6pDhCQ&ved=0CBwQ9QEwAw
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/141/33607.jpg
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Can I distract this thread?
No. Go get your own ;D
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Can I distract this thread?
No. Go get your own ;D
how funny ;D ;D
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Some forms have greener leaves, this grey is very nice (harvest any seed David). Usually (here) the leaves are partially deciduous which probably makes it reasonably hardy but being grey it might like a glass over it. It grows magnificently in disturbed gravel at the sides of mountian roads in Greece, flowering in summer but no doubt covered with snow in winter. We saw it on the way to a ski field.
It's only just come into flower Lesley but if I get seeds you will get some.
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Mark, I think your Mimulus is cardinalis.
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I agree, cardinalis. I thought it was quite funny that Mark wanted to talk about mimulus on what was supposed, originally, to be a mimulus thread. Very distracting. ;D
Thank you David, I'll do the same for you when I can.
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Hi David, as the Plant Identification Thread is always an interesting thread, I started to look here after being away some weeks and found your question.
Three weeks ago on our way to Austria we decided to make a stop at Bot. Garden Würzburg, where I saw your plant and made some pictures.
It was growing on a rather hot sunny slope where they grew enormous Acantholimon, Genista, Echinospartium and also Scutellaria orientalis.
Here three pictures for you.
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Thank you Luit, hope you had a good holiday. My Scutellaria orientalis won't have that much room to grow!
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Great Scutellaria, David. Fascinating leaves. Not at all like what I associate with Scuts, but that might just be my memory. ::)
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Paul, don't know if I shall get seed but if I do I will send you some.
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I have a small plant too and will keep an eye on it for seeds.
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The leaves remind me of some sort of herb or something...... something else we grow in gardens, but not Scuts. I have mixed success with Scuts here, so sending seed might be a death sentence to the poor little blighters. :'( I appreciate the sentiment though. 8)