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SRGC Shows and Events => Events => Topic started by: ranunculus on June 19, 2010, 06:28:10 PM
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Just returned from an excellent AGS national show at Pudsey in West Yorkshire held today; 19th June 2010 and I am thrilled to announce that the Farrer Medal was won by one of the alpine world's great characters; Tommy Anderson from Kendal with a superb Androsace spinulifera. This was Tommy's first Farrer Medal, but not his first 'Best in Show' (a Farrer or Forrest Medal is not always awarded) - hearty congratulations to you Tommy from all your friends in the alpine fraternity.
Congratulations are also in order for Eric Rainford and Ian Instone (and their enthusiastic helpers) - joint show secretaries of another wonderful event.
The winner of the hotly contested Pudsey Pig contest was shorts-wearing Colin Dolding - seen below with his prestigious trophy - a fledgling 'piglet' with little to recommend him in the way of experience or excess body-weight, he scooped the prize with ease, finishing off cottage pie and all the trimmings, the entire contents of the gravy jug and a large helping of apple pie and custard. Where did he put it all? Congratulations Colin and antacid relief! ;D
TOMMY ANDERSON FROM KENDAL - FARRER MEDAL WINNER PUDSEY 2010
ANDROSACE SPINULIFERA - FARRER MEDAL WINNING EXHIBIT
ASTERANTHERA OVATA
ASTERANTHERA OVATA - CLOSE-UP
CAMPANULA CHORUHENSIS
CAMPANULA THESSELLA
DACTYLORHIZA - EXHIBITED BY GEORGE YOUNG
GENTIANA SZECHENYII - EXHIBITED BY LIONEL CLARKSON
GENTIANA SZECHENYII - CLOSE-UP
PUDSEY PIG WINNER - COLIN DOLDING - THE LEGS HAVE BEEN COVERED TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT
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Some great plants to start your report Cliff and what a grand portrait of Tommy Anderson and his Farrer plant 8)
Many congratulations to Tommy !
Not to decry the achievments of the organisers and exhibitors of those fine plants, but the other major news of ther day must be the Pudsey Pig contest.
Who indeed would have thought that a sapling such as Colin could pull off such a victory? :o
The fellow looks as though gravy never touches his lips... perhaps he pours it straight down or takes it through a straw..... ;)
Mind you, I have heard the tales of the AGS Seed Team doing their own extensive training on quality cake, so it may be that this was his secret to success. ::) ;D ;D
Well done, Colin, a memorable win for you with a taxing menu :)
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Congratulations to Tommy and Colin. I like the new piggery trophy. Just wish I could have been there. I wouldn't have given Tommy any real threat but I'd have given Colin some stiff competition :o
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Thank you to Eric and his team for another good show and to Cliff to announcing to the world my greatest triumph of the 2010 show season.
Maggi was pretty close to the secret training during the long winter days and nights whilst working on the AGS seed exchange.
Sounds like Martin is challenging for next year already. Sorry you were unable to come this year.
Have not tried gravy through a straw though Maggi, is that a Scottish tradition?
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Where were the well know pigletesses in this contest. No mention of the lades at all. Other things on your mind Shelagh?
I really love the Asteranthera. Mine is doing nicely but a good deal looser than the one above. Might try weaving the new stems through the older ones for a more compact plant. ???
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Where were the well know pigletesses in this contest. No mention of the lades at all.
Hi Lesley,
Your 'On the spot - On the moment' reporter here.
Update on the 2010 hogwash ... twenty-seven official entries this year - plenty of classic fillies made the starting line; a number of former winners were present and made valiant but futile attempts to recapture past glories - other former winners had, of course, emigrated to pastures new in N.Z. or the U.S.A. to escape the pressure. This year's event attracted media attention from around the world (well, you are reading this, aren't you?) and, but for rather poor on-course hospitality, the day proved another resounding success.
New tactics were employed by several participants this year - lobsters were introduced into the field of play ... and chocolate cake (probably laced with hidden dangers) was offered to (and slavishly consumed by) many of the entrants at a precise and pre-arranged time of 10.30am - and in the car-park, may I add - how suspicious does that sound? Lesley, you have no idea how low some recognised (Black-pudding) competitors can stoop?
Last year's worthy winner; Carol 'The Pit' Kellett presented Colin 'Empty Legs' Dolding with his trophy and a momento to keep for perpetuity of a piglet lovingly fashioned from coal (don't ask). John 'Consumer Boomer' Dower also presented young Colin with a badge of pride that was to be worn for the rest of the day (or the rest of the year if he could face all the questions that were bound to result).
Photos of the winner and many of the participants may follow when an enormous breakfast has been consumed.
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Lesley WW's simply cannot cope with the Pudsey Pig. However many of us indulged in chocolate cake in the car-park earlier and I was accused of trying to sabotage some P-Piggers from getting the trophy. It didn't seem to affect appetites too much though. We celebrated Martin's upcoming birthday in his absence. :'( Sorry you weren't there Martin but I don't think the cake will last till Pershore :-*
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Have not tried gravy through a straw though Maggi, is that a Scottish tradition?
No, Colin, not especially Scottish,just a dodge used by
a) men with facial hair who don't want their beards etc full of goo :P
b) folks on a diet who are trying to kid themselves that they're not cheating and consuming the wrong foods because "gravy never touches their lips" if they use a straw ;D ;D
Of course, this trick only works with 1) a fat straw and 2) thin gravy ...... it's a complicated world out there!
Is the crazy world of the Pudsey Pig not the most marvelous social adjunct to the business of the show? All those happy competitors making off for a convivial luncheon gathering and having a good laugh into the bargain.... Magic! 8)
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Is the crazy world of the Pudsey Pig not the most marvelous social adjunct to the business of the show? 8)
I think sometimes the show is the adjunct to the main business of the day - the lunch ;D ;D
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To get back to the plants............. , although I must say, there was a cathedral-like hush over the show hall over lunchtime, with about 5-6 people around. About 2pm I realised the noise levels had risen considerably, and looked up to find the hall filling up again, mainly with Pudsey piglets wiping away the crumbs.
Most of my pictures are closeups of plants that caught my eye, if they don't give a sense of scale, then I'm sure that others will have photos of the whole plant.
- Campanula Joe Elliott, shown by Vera Buck
- Asteranthera ovata, Martin and Anna Sheader. This shot was taken on the 'official' photography table to get the backlit effect whilst Jon Evans, who was taking the AGS photos, was at work.
- Epipactis gigantea, Georgina Instone
- Campanula pelia, Anne Vale
- Silene elisabethae, John Savage
- Campanula myrsifolia 'Helmi', Martin and Anna Sheader (Certificate of Merit. I think)
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Shelagh, you have permission to eat my bit of cake, but not till tomorrow so you can celebrate my real birthday instead of my official birthday.
No point in trying to preserve it till Pershore as I'll be somewhere on Skye at the time.
Peter, who's the chap in collar and tie you've used as an avatar?
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- Bletilla striata, Anne Vale
- Sedum 'Chocolate Ball' , also Anne Vale. This plant looked almost good enough to eat (down Maggi ;D ). The detail shot doesn't really show it, but from a distance it looked like a chocolate pudding!
- Dianthus Annette, Chloe Eyre
- Arisaema candidissimum, Mike and Mandy McLoughlin
- Allium cernuum, Frank Dobson
- Arisaema kiushianum, Cecelia Coller - who grows some very unusual plants, more to follow
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Peter, who's the chap in collar and tie you've used as an avatar?
That will be my better looking twin brother. ;)
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All quiet on this topic, it looks like all the photographers at Pudsey have been out enjoying the sunshine. Here's some more photos:
- Brodiaea stellaris, Cecelia Coller
- Monopsis unidentata, Cecelia again
- Echinopsis backebergii var wrightiana, Martin and Anna Sheader. Sorry, this one's slightly out of focus; the accompanying notes state that it is found at 3500-400om in Bolivia and Peru.
- Stylidium graminifolium, Brian and Sheila Smethurst. 2 views of this plant - apparently they have a better one which should be ready for the Pershore show. :o
- Gilea aggregata, John Bunn. Just the inflorescence from this plant; spectacular, quite tall, but the rosette of leaves was not up to much.
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- Silene californica
- Scutellaria indica var parvifolia, both Robin Pickering
- Roscoea 'Inkling', Cecelia Coller again
- Oxytropis shokanbetsuensis (now there's a mouthful!), Brian and Shelagh Smethurst
- Nomocharis aperta, Ian Instone
- Delphinium pylzowii, Brian and Shelagh Smethurst
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- Eriogonum holmgrenii, Alan Furness. 2 views of this plant; Alan tells me that it's flowering earlier each year, certainly I photographed it at the Ponteland show in late September/early October a few years ago.
- Rebutia fiebrigii (albipilosa), Martin and Anna Sheader. The name here is as it was labelled , both fiebrigii and alobpilosa are species, so maybe they aren't sure what they've got (?). Grows in N Argentina at 2500-300m.
- Monardella nana ssp tenuifolia, Lee and Julie Martin.
- Castilleja miniata, Brian Russ. I used to growth this plant, now just a memory and a label..... :-\
- Allium cernuum, Margaret Pickering. A darker colour than Frank Dobson's plant shown earlier.
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I'll post some of mine which hopefully don't duplicate too many of those already shown
Large 3 pan class shown by Martin and Anna Sheader, consisting of:
Aptosimon procumbens and Campanula myrtifolia at the back, and Ourisia x bitternensis "Cliftonville Pink"
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The Farrer medal winning plant, Androsace spinulifera, shown by Tommy Anderson (lurking at the back right of the picture)
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- Allium caesium, Barry Winter.
- Gentiana szechenyii, Lionel Clarkson.
- Pogonia ophioglossoides, John and Jean Morris. There was a good potful of this plant, but the flowers were pointing in different directions (it still won a first), so it looks better as an individual flower in a photograph.
- CyclamenCypripedium kentuckyense, Diane Clement
- Gladiolus symonsii, Fred and Pat Bundy. This was labelled G. symondii (?), but I beleive that this is the correct name.
- Calochortus argillosus, Fred and Pat Bundy. The interiors of these flowers were fabulous, but I couldn't have photographed them without standing on the table - a tall plant (2 foot)
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3 neat ferns shown by Ivor Betteridge:
Aspenium ceterach
Polystichum lemmonii
Cheilanthes wootonii
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Campanula zangezura shown by John and Clare Dower, it got a PC from Joint Rock and the identity will be confirmed in due course
Dianthus pavonius shown by Tommy Anderson
Phlox pulvinata blue form shown by Brian Burrow
Dactylorhiza fuchsii shown by John and Clare Dower
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Saxifraga class (spot the forumists Ranunculus and Johnny D in the background)
Silver foliage class
Cut flower class
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- Dactylorhiza sp, George Young. This plant also has a deep purple suffusion in the (unspotted) leaves.
- Polystichum lemmonii, Ivor Betterridge. I see Diane just posted a picture of this also, but it's a lovely plant.
- Arisaema consanguimeumm, George Young. 2 views of this to show the drop of (?) sap at the leaf tips.
- Alstromeria sp 0168, Alan Spenceley. Just a part of this huge potful which won a certificate of merit. edit : now Identified by John Watson as Alstromeria ligtu ssp ligtu
- Nierembergia pulchella, Cecelia Coller
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- Sarmienta repens, Wilma and Jim Wright
- Aptosimum procumbens, Martin and Anna Sheader
- Androsace spinulifera, a close-up of Tommy's Farrer medal winner
- Campanula choruhensis, Lee and Julie Martin. Not quite fully out yet, will be a magificent plant in a few days...
- Campanula fenestrellata, ssp istriaca, Lee and Julie Martin
- Saxifraga 'Tumbling Waters', Lee and Julie Martin
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I'll continue with the orchids,
Dactylorhiza fuchsii hybrid shown by Brian Burrow
Dactylorhiza elata shown by Robin Pickering
Dactylorhiza Eskimo Nell shown by Tony Rymer, what a beautiful white plant, and what a shame that all the stock of this plant seems to be virused.
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I'd like to discuss this one labelled as Arisaema consanguineum, shown by George Young (George are you out there?)
I wonder whether it is actually A ciliatum liubaense - distinguished from A consanguineum by having stolons - this potful looks like it might have increased by stolons judging by the pups in the pot?
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Final 3 from me.
- Physoplexis comosa, John Richards
- Campanula ?, Margaret Pickering. Margaret forgot to label it (there was no space to place a label anyway), so I asked her what it was as they were loading it into the car. I have now had a senior moment and forgotten what it was! :-\ I've remembered: It was Campanula thessala, now know as C pelia.
- Dactylorhiza 'Eskimo Nell', Tony Rymer
That's all from the show, but I stopped off on the way home to take some more orchid photos at a nature reserve in County Durham which will appear in the Orchid section soon(ish).
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I've just got a few to finish with. Pudsey show has an artistic section, and the pictures were well-displayed in the main hall. I'm sorry I photographed these hurriedly at the end, so my photographs do not show them to their best advantage. Jean Morris is the maestro of the needlework section, and showed some excellent examples her art:
Romulea unifolia
Romulea schlecteri
Fuchsia which won the Lawrence Greenwood award for the best photograph, art or needlework
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In the photography section, Jon Evans showed some amazing pictures, I still can't get over the detail on these pictures.
Corydalis "Blue Heron"
Galanthus "Sophie North"
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Many thanks to Diane and Peter for your wonderful images. I have been preoccupied with Father's Day celebrations for most of the day, so have only had time to process a few images to post this evening. More to follow when time and tide allow.
CAMPANULA 'JOE ELLIOTT'
CAMPANULA
CAMPANULA
ECHINOPSIS BACKEBERGII V. WRIGHTIANA
GLADIOLUS SYMONDII CLOSE-UP
PHLOX PULVINATUM
PRIMULA MALVACEA CLOSE-UP
ROSCOEA HUMEANA 'INKLING'
SARMIENTA REPENS
SARMIENTA REPENS CLOSE-UP
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I wondered also, about the Arisaema and thought it was A. ciliatum (how does v. lubiense differ from the type plese?). Are there forms of consanguineum that are VISUALLY identical to ciliatum but are still consanguineum? All my consanguineums are green in the spath with more or less flushing wish deep red/brown towards the base and the leaves have more leaflets (up to 16) which are more wavy-edged than those of ciliatum. And they are invariable taller than ciliatum.
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Thank you Cliff, for the comprehensive report on the PP event. Such dedicated entrants are to be warmly congratulated and admired. So pleased it went well and all, presumably, had access to quick-eze or something similar at the end? ;D
There are so many wonderful plants here. One that especially appeals to me is Dianthus 'Annette' with quite a large flower on so compact a plant. It is very attractive. Then there's the super blue form of Phlox pulvinata and the wonderful Aptosimum procumbens. I love Gladiolus symonsii too. My especial favourite though, is Ourisia 'Cliftonville Pink.' As Kristl says, so many species, so little time, or, in NZ, so many b....y bureaucrats putting a stop to gardeners' ambitions.
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You are very welcome, Lesley ... more on the Pudsey Pig later ...
Some other images from the show ...
ALSTROMERIA Sp. 0168 CHILE
ALSTROMERIA CLOSE-UP
CAMPANULA SHETLERI
CALCEOLARIA
TINY ORCHID CLOSE-UP
CYPRIPEDIUM REGINAE
GILIA CLOSE-UP
MECONOPSIS PANICULATA GHUNSA GROUP
OURISIA 'CLIFTONVILLE ROSET'
OXYTROPIS SHOKANBETUENSIS
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Just a couple more this morning ...
OZOTHAMNUS INTERMEDIUM
ROSCOEA HUMEANA 'INKLING' CLOSE-UP
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Looks like a great show...some wonderful Dactylorhiza on show, I have never seen a Eskimo Nell, what a shame the plant is virused I do love white flowers.
Thanks everyone for the images from the show.
Angie :)
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Hmmm.... we are not sure about 'Eskimo Nell' ... she is not the most robust of plants, though in a good year she is a big enough girl but we are undecided if the problem is a virus or just that, as is often the case with white versions of coloured flowers, that she is just a bit miffy.
Come round any day soon, Angie.... Eskimo Nell is coming out now, you can see for yourself. (Busy on Thursday morning Poppy to Vet for post-op check up)
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Looks like this was a great show. So many different plants. I really like the Alstromeria, and the campanulas and so many others including the Dactylorhizas
I was a little surprised to see Asteranthera ovata. Mine is so vigorous it wouldn’t stay in a pot that size for long. It’s a pity it doesn’t cover itself with flowers though.
I agree that the Arisaema doesn’t look like any A. consanguineum that I have seen and looks more like A. ciliatum.
Why do we not have a Summer show in Scotland? Wouldn’t that be good ;D ;)
Graham
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Why do we not have a Summer show in Scotland? Wouldn’t that be good
Is that you volunteering to run one, Graham? ???
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Why do we not have a Summer show in Scotland? Wouldn’t that be good
Is that you volunteering to run one, Graham? ???
Now how do I remove that question!!
Typed before I put my brain in gear. ;)
Graham
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Hmmm.... we are not sure about 'Eskimo Nell' ... she is not the most robust of plants, though in a good year she is a big enough girl but we are undecided if the problem is a virus or just that, as is often the case with white versions of coloured flowers, that she is just a bit miffy.
Here's mine before I threw it away :'( :'(
I was pretty sure it was virused which is how I bought it, although didn't realise until I got home.
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Too late methinks Graham. One volunteer show secretary is worth ten pressed men as they say :D :D :D
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Too late methinks Graham. One volunteer show secretary is worth ten pressed men as they say :D :D :D
Indeedly doodly, Martin!
Thing is, as any Show Secretary knows; running a good show takes a whole team of helpers and in Summer those are uncommonly hard to come by, especially if an area already runs one or more shows :-X
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Hi Maggi
Thanks for the offer to see Eskimo Nell... Thursday afternoon would be great for me.
Helen and Bills dactylorhizas are black and diseased but mine seem to be ok this year.. fingers crossed.
Angie :)
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See you on Thursday, Angela! 8)
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Why do we not have a Summer show in Scotland? Wouldn’t that be good ;D ;)
Graham
But do you have a summer in Scotland Graham? ;D (All right, I am covering my head in shame at the question. :-*)
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More beauties above but Ourisia 'Cliftonville Roset' does it for me. I really love these little coloured ourisias. Do they set seed? I'm sure they would enjoy meeting with our O. caespitosa.
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Hmmm......how to convince partner to stay in UK long enough after Alpines Conference in 2011 to be able to attend Pudsey?? Two months might be just a bit too long! ;D
cheers
fermi
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Hmmm......how to convince partner to stay in UK long enough after Alpines Conference in 2011 to be able to attend Pudsey?? Two months might be just a bit too long! ;D
cheers
fermi
Mention break in Aberdeen with Lily and Poppy?
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Sounds a great idea Fermi after all you will have do some training at altitude in order not to disappoint. It's difficult to hold your pint and your gravy without making a mess of your shirt.
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Why do we not have a Summer show in Scotland? Wouldn’t that be good ;D ;)
Graham
But do you have a summer in Scotland Graham? ;D (All right, I am covering my head in shame at the question. :-*)
Lesley,
I hope I'm not tempting fate but surprisingly Summer has started well. We have had a couple of weeks of really good weather. Having to keep the pots watered.
Lets just hope it keeps going.
Graham
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Hmmm......how to convince partner to stay in UK long enough after Alpines Conference in 2011 to be able to attend Pudsey?? Two months might be just a bit too long! ;D
cheers
fermi
Fermi, dear Fermi - and being of a similar shape you will not mind my saying this - you do NOT need to take part in the Pudsey Pig competition. ;D ;D OK, I'm just envious that I shan't be going to the UK, let alone staying for the PP.
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Its a bit late to be adding to the discussion but its been a v hectic week and also doing the reports for AGS web site and Bulletin. The Arisaema consanguineum has been grown from seed when I used to subcribe to the Botanical Club of British Columbia as they had a fantastic seed list (may still do) so whether it is the correct ID or not I do not know and have never tried to key it out. Shown it several times and no one has questioned it. To me its not too important as I grow it because it grows for me in pot and garden and I like it...especially the 'dew drop' on the end of the leaves as its is the only arisaema in my small collection that does that...not sure why...anyone have an opinion.
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AA. consanguineum and ciliatum do the same thing George, which suggests a relationship between yours and them, which is what I thought on seeing your picture, i.e. maybe a form of A. consanguineum. ???
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Its a bit late to be adding to the discussion but its been a v hectic week and also doing the reports for AGS web site and Bulletin. The Arisaema consanguineum has been grown from seed when I used to subcribe to the Botanical Club of British Columbia as they had a fantastic seed list (may still do) so whether it is the correct ID or not I do not know and have never tried to key it out. Shown it several times and no one has questioned it. To me its not too important as I grow it because it grows for me in pot and garden and I like it...especially the 'dew drop' on the end of the leaves as its is the only arisaema in my small collection that does that...not sure why...anyone have an opinion.
Hi George, I did think on Saturday that your plant was A ciliatum but I wanted to check it out first. Yes, it's a great plant for a pot or the garden, no doubting that. The "drip tips" are a particularly attractive feature of this group.
I remember looking at various pots on the show bench at Pudsey last year and comparing those labelled consanguineum, ciliatum, erubescens - mostly indistinguishable and so clearly some of these names were being used for others of this group. Many AGS judges don't know much about Arisaemas which is perhaps why it hasn't been queried in the past. I now think that many Arisaemas labelled as consanguineum are actually ciliatum. I have grown A consanguineum about 5 times from various seed sources and everyone of them has been the brown and white striped spathe with stolons, making them all A ciliatum. There's been a bit more discussion on it in the aroids thread:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=950.259 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=950.259)
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We've got the a litte Arisaema ciliatum "forest".... rather sweet...... see this Bulb Log http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Jun161276698903BULB_LOG__2410.pdf
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What a great show! Thanks everyone for showing us what we've missed.
Peter - I couldn't see the picture of Diane's cyclamen, I think it got missed somehow, if you have a moment, could you post it for us please? Thanks
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What a great show! Thanks everyone for showing us what we've missed.
Peter - I couldn't see the picture of Diane's cyclamen, I think it got missed somehow, if you have a moment, could you post it for us please? Thanks
Cyclamen ??? I haven't got a cyclamen - well, actually I have hundreds but none on the show bench this week. ;D
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We've got the a litte Arisaema ciliatum "forest".... rather sweet...... see this Bulb Log http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Jun161276698903BULB_LOG__2410.pdf
Thanks for the reminder Maggi. I'm a couple of weeks behind with the Bulb Log. I love the Arisaema forest. Mine are getting there, but quite slowly in my rather dry garden. And thanks Ian for the support for Celmisias. Even here, to most people they're "just another white daisy" but their different foliage forms and colours add immensely to the interest in high areas. Most of us struggle with them in the garden though unless we have some altitude and moisture. Pleased they do well for you and others like Harold McBride and Alan Furness.
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I bet Peter was having a laugh, it says Cyclamen kentuckyense - D Clement. Never thought til I looked again. What a geezer. Wait til I see him.... ;D
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I bet Peter was having a laugh, it says Cyclamen kentuckyense - D Clement. Never thought til I looked again. What a geezer. Wait til I see him.... ;D
The text said Cyclamen but the photo was Cypripedium kentuckyense!! :P
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Campanula zangezura shown by John and Clare Dower, it got a PC from Joint Rock and the identity will be confirmed in due course
Was this name confirmed later, does anyone know? Panayoti Kelaidis says it is definitely not that species.
"Symphyandra zangezura is a long lived perennial with extremely distinctive foliage (illustrated in the Flora USSR) and unique flowers" PK
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