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General Subjects => Travel / Places to Visit => Topic started by: Gerdk on June 09, 2007, 02:36:21 PM

Title: NE Turkey
Post by: Gerdk on June 09, 2007, 02:36:21 PM: Here are some pics from a fourteen days trip - May 23th to June 6th - to the Pontus Range of Turkey (with the exception of some photos made near Erzerum). I had the fortune to join a four persons excursion which was guyded by my friend Erich Pasche, one of the best experts for the Turkish flora.
1 Zigana pass
2 Trollius ranunculinus / Zigana
3 Viola altaica ssp. oreades / Zigana
4 Cyclamen parviflorum / Zigana
5 Anemone blanda / Zigana
6 Gentiana verna ssp. pontica / Zigana
7 Primula algida / Zigana
8 Daphne glomerata / Zigana
9 Caltha polypetala / Camlibel
10 Caltha polypetala / Camlibel

Gerd Knoche
Solingen, Germany
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Gerdk on June 09, 2007, 02:52:23 PM: Here are the next ones:

11 Epipactis veratrifolia / moist rocks near the Choruh River
12 near Savsat (to Camibel)
13 Scilla rosenii / Camlibel
14 Scilla rosenii / Camlibel
15 Alkanna orientalis / Demirkent
16 Salikör Yayla
17 Iris elegantissima / near Erzurum
18 Phelypea tournefortii / an Orobanchaceae near Erzurum
19 Tulipa species / near Erzurum
20 Geranium tuberosum (? macrostylum) near Erzurum

Gerd Knoche
Solingen, Germany
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Gerdk on June 09, 2007, 03:07:59 PM: The rest:

21 Veronica oltensis / Demirkent
22 Glaucium corniculatum / way to Erzurum
23 Campanula trogerae / Altiparmak
24 Primula sibthorpii / above Artvin
25 Rhododendron ponticum / near Ovit Pass
26 Rhododendron luteum / Ovit Pass
27 Rhododendron luteum / Ovit Pass
28 Sedum species and lichens / Ovit Pass
29 Paeonia mascula ssp. arietina
30 Erich Pasche (in action)

Gerd Knoche
Solingen, Germany
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: David Nicholson on June 09, 2007, 07:34:15 PM: Gerd, beautiful pictures of some gorgeous views and plants in a beautiful part of the world. Thanks for sharing them.
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: hadacekf on June 09, 2007, 08:44:53 PM: Gerd,
Thanks for the great pictures of plants from Turkey; I have good memories of some places.
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 09, 2007, 08:53:12 PM: Gerd, thank you for these great photos... we are pleased to be able to "join" you on this trip!
I see that our friend Erich Pasche is still using his favourite camera even in rather steep places!
This great man is a good friend to many and a tremendous inspriation to us all... how fortunate you are to have been able to make this trip in his company!
It seems you were able to see a good number of fine plants. I am particularly taken with the strong red Phelypea tournefortii which I must say I have not seen before. I find such plants very interesting indeed.
Can you say which plants it was growing in association with?
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: t00lie on June 10, 2007, 12:11:01 AM: Wonderful shots Gerd.

I'm particularly interested in the photos of Scilla rosenii as i have a couple of bulbs grown from seed in 2003 that had healthy foliage last season however are yet to flower.Fingers crossed for this spring because your pics show it to be a beauty.

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 10, 2007, 12:13:49 AM: Dave said: "I'm particularly interested in the photos of Scilla rosenii as i have a couple of bulbs grown from seed in 2003 that had healthy foliage last season however are yet to flower.Fingers crossed for this spring because your pics show it to be a beauty."

I seem to remember this species needs a cold winter and spring otherwise its flowers open at ground level, like mine? :(
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: t00lie on June 10, 2007, 12:33:01 AM: Thanks Anthony --i remember your comments as well about a cold winter /spring.I think it was mentioned in one of Ian's Bulb Log entries.

The bulbs are in a cool position --a trough which currently only receives a couple of hours sunlight.

I'm just hopeful of any sign of flowering at all ::) .Having achieved that i can then worry about whether the plants need moving to a much colder spot. :-\

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Kees Jan on June 10, 2007, 01:57:38 PM: Hi Gerd and others,

How nice to see how the season advances in NE Turkey!! I was there a couple of weeks earlier with friends from Norway and the Netherlands. We had a great trip, partly due to Erich Pasche's excellent advice and suggestions!

I uploaded some pictures under plant identifications, topic NE Turkey . I hope you will be able to help us identify a few of them. Here are a few pictures of the the saxifrages that grow in the Pontic Alps:

S. paniculata ssp. cartilaginea
S. kotschyi
S. cymbalaria

Other species that we found during this trip are S. sibirica, S. tridactylites, S. rotundifolia and S. exarata
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Thomas Huber on June 11, 2007, 07:39:58 AM: Hi Gerd!

Great to have you back - wonderful photos from the wild!

Seems like you're advanced in using the new camera.
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Gerdk on June 11, 2007, 08:58:48 AM: Thank you alltogether for the nice responds.

To Maggi: Phelypea (sometimes written Phelipea) tournefortii grows on the roots of Achillea and Tanacetum species. The photo sof this plant also shows the annual Asperula orientalis

To the Scilla rosenii: we found it at the elevation of around 2600 m. The snow has melted recently (May 30 th!). The soil was very wet at some places, but this seems to be no must because we saw it growing on a gentle sloping hill in somewhat less wetter positions. According Erich Pasche in summer the region experiences a humid climate, in winter there is a regular snowcover. The soil is limefree.

To Kees Jan:
Sorry I am only able to identify the Epimedium which is colchicum. The violet is a member of the (tricky) riviniana/reichenbachiana/sieheana complex. Unfortunately the genus viola for this region is not well documentated.

Gerd Knoche
Solingen, Germany
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Maggi Young on June 11, 2007, 08:10:37 PM: Thank you, Gerd. I am most interested in orobanche and pedicularis sps.... not that we are able to grow many, but I find them fascinating.
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: I.S. on June 19, 2007, 07:43:05 AM: When I have seen all these nice plants from my country I couldn't do without posting my pics which have taken last week from Istanbul NW. Turkey.

alibeyköy barrage in Istanbul
Cistus creticus alibeyköy barajı
Cistus salvifolius alibeyköy barajı
Cistus salvifolius alibeyköy barajı
Cytinus hypocistis alibeyköy barajı
Lavandula Stoechas alibeyköy baraji
Rosa canina alibeyköy barajı
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: I.S. on June 19, 2007, 07:55:45 AM: And a few more which I couldn't identify. If anybody can tell the correct name!. I would be content..
I thant to everybody for nice plants pictures..

Regard...

ibrahim..
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 19, 2007, 10:46:09 PM: Ibrahim, please tell me about the Cytinus hypocistus. It looks like another of those parasitic plants, like Orobanche and Lathraea which need a hopst plant, presumably, in this case, Cistus. Obviously there are plenty around :)
Title: Re: NE Turkey
Post by: I.S. on June 20, 2007, 12:42:48 AM: Yes. Lesley! there were plenty of cistus all around. I have seen these parasitic plants on the root of
dried cistus. when I have seen them I thougt they could be different plants. But they were attached to some roots. I was cheking in the net about cistus then I have seen them with that name.

best regards....

ibrahim