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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: WimB on June 09, 2010, 03:24:14 PM

Title: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: WimB on June 09, 2010, 03:24:14 PM: This plant is growing in the garden of a friend and nobody seems to know what it is. Anyone here have an idea?
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: arisaema on June 09, 2010, 03:38:40 PM: A peloric Linaria vulgaris :)
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: Maggi Young on June 09, 2010, 03:44:28 PM: Quote from: arisaema on June 09, 2010, 03:38:40 PM
A peloric Linaria vulgaris :)
Spot on, Bjørnar !
Though at first glance my brain saw your answer as a pelagic Linaria, so that was a moment's puzzle! Poor sole, I thought, he's lost the plot! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: WimB on June 09, 2010, 04:39:09 PM: Quote from: arisaema on June 09, 2010, 03:38:40 PM
A peloric Linaria vulgaris :)

Thanks for the identification Bjørnar,

I had never heard about "peloria" before. Every day something new to learn.
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: mark smyth on June 09, 2010, 07:13:44 PM: pe·lo·ri·a
noun
Unusual regularity in the form of a flower that is normally irregular.
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: Maggi Young on June 09, 2010, 07:22:12 PM: Found this reference going right back to Linnaeus.....which happens to be about this very plant.....

http://www.springerlink.com/content/tp36336815147048/

also the term has been used a couple of times in the Forum in dicussion of fasciation and the like.
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: Carlo on June 09, 2010, 07:42:41 PM: Mark's definition (Unusual regularity in the form of a flower that is normally irregular.) could be a bit confusing. A peloric flower is one in which a flower that is normally zygomorphic, or bilaterally symmetrical, develops as an actinomorphic flower, or one that is radially symmetrical. In other words, a flower that is symmetrical when divided on ONE plane, becomes one that is divisible on many.

Furthermore, I would suggest that a flower that is bilaterally symmetric is very regular (it is, afterall, a mirror image).
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 09, 2010, 10:20:53 PM: Something distinctly fishy about your first answer there Maggi. :)
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: Maggi Young on June 09, 2010, 10:33:28 PM: Quote from: Lesley Cox on June 09, 2010, 10:20:53 PM
Something distinctly fishy about your first answer there Maggi. :)
Indeed, Lesley... then the scales fell from my eyes.
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: Lvandelft on June 09, 2010, 11:01:13 PM: Some years ago it was offered here and possibly in UK too, as Linaria vulgaris 'Peloria'
Title: Re: Unknown yellow flowering plant
Post by: WimB on June 10, 2010, 07:05:40 AM: Thanks for your answers :D