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Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: LarsB on June 08, 2010, 10:04:05 AM

Title: Hybrid variations.
Post by: LarsB on June 08, 2010, 10:04:05 AM
WHen you make a cross you might come up with a lot of very different flowers when using hybrids as parents. Here's an example. Both plants in the picture are from the same batch of seeds.

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/larsdane/Disadjx2small.jpg)
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: majallison on June 08, 2010, 05:20:47 PM
Beautiful Disas, but what's the parentage? Also, how long did they take to reach flowering size from seed?

Malcolm
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: Pete Clarke on June 08, 2010, 08:12:33 PM
Great Disas Lars. Love the yellow form.
I would also be interested to know how you grow them from seed.
I have just flowered my first Disa - Colette Cymes.

Pete.
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: LarsB on June 08, 2010, 09:29:03 PM
The parentage is DIsa Wilferd Duckitt x Disa Kewensis. The Kewensis used is hte clone 'Oudepost' and the Wilferd Duckitt was a plant with a relatively small flower, but with a yellow dorsal sepal and the rest orange. My ain was a plant with apricot flowers with the same hue of blue that 'Oudepost' have. It's impossible to see in pictures, but the orange of the two is very close to what i wanted.

I think they took four years from seeds, grown the natural way. It can be done faster, espeacially if you sow in-vitro, but up until last year i did my own sowing. I sow out on damp moss. Disa uniflora is the one htat carries the ability of germinating on moss and the more it is 'diluted' the more sparse the germination is. Start out with uniflora or primary hybrids of uniflora. My first was uniflora x cardinalis = Kirstenbosch Pride.
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on June 09, 2010, 12:57:16 PM
Hello Lars,
Very nice Disas.
What is the yellow Disa that appears under your name in each post?

Thanks

Paul
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: LarsB on June 09, 2010, 10:52:52 PM
Thanks Paul. The yellow Disa is Disa uniflora 'Christmas Gold'. It took me some years to get the small plantlet i got South Africa turned around to grow after our seasons, but when it finally flowered for the first time, it was june 24  :)
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: LarsB on June 09, 2010, 10:58:21 PM
I have just flowered my first Disa - Colette Cymes.

Pete.

It has a beautiful colour and shape. I'd love to get that shape into some of my Disa. BTW i think the correct name is Disa Colette Cywes.
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on June 11, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
Thanks for the name Lars, it's a lovely yellow. I currently have very few Disas but would like a few more. There seems to be very few places to buy them - Dave Parkinson over here is the only specialist nursery selling them, but he actually only offers a limitesd range. Do you know of other suppliers, perhaps elsewhwere in Europe? I saw the amazing range of places like Camp One orchids in the USA (http://www.camponeorchids.com/index.html) but it is too difficult to import from outside the EU

Paul
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: ThomasB on June 11, 2010, 05:41:30 PM
Hi Paul,

recently I saw the colourful range of Disa hybrids offered at Pazuzu Extreme Flora (http://www.extremeflora.eu/shop/shop/USER_ARTIKEL_HANDLING_AUFRUF.php?darstellen=1&Ziel_ID=&Kategorie_ID=52&PEPPERSESS=fdbd3475be3b9302cbda4d3e70ddcaf7&kat_last=52&close_gruppierung=true&grp_aktiv=&kat_aktiv=52) from the Netherlands.
I never ordered there and don't know whether everything is available.

Thomas
Title: sources of Disas
Post by: monocotman on June 14, 2010, 01:53:57 PM
Paul,

'Crustacare' have a fairly diverse range of species and hybrids.
Certainly more than Dave Parkinson.
A friend bought a small collection and they seemed to be OK,

Regards,

David
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: Maren on June 29, 2010, 09:05:10 AM
Hi Paul,
I visited Crustacare last week. Jan Moors had lots of different Disas in glorious colours, many yellows, all just coming into flower. He grows them in quartz in a flood and drain fashion, using the skills and technology acquired from his lobster business. He also has an extensive collection of other interesting orchids, including cypripediums, which he hybridises, hardies and pleiones.
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on June 29, 2010, 06:00:01 PM
Thanks Maren. I've recently been in touch with Jan Moors so plan to get some things from him in the future

Paul
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: Pete Clarke on June 30, 2010, 10:23:06 PM
Disa Riette - a nice red on a short stem, but the flower has not opened flat as yet.
Title: Re: Hybrid variations.
Post by: LarsB on July 01, 2010, 10:40:35 AM
Beautiful colour, Pete.

I've bought some Cyp. Seedlings and Pleione from Jan Moors and I can only recomend him.
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