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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: johnw on June 01, 2010, 01:49:33 AM
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Ah the promise!
johnw
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A slight cheat this, since the pix are from May, but I've just received them from my friend who was on holiday in Cumbria..... beautiful real English Bluebell woods near Conniston......
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First summer day meconopsis. :)
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A slight cheat this, since the pix are from May, but I've just received them from my friend who was on holiday in Cumbria..... beautiful real English Bluebell woods near Conniston......
classic! now would these be native, or originally planted?
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My friend tells me they are unsullied natives, Cohan and would, I believe,be natural populations.
Lovely arent' they?
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Mmm wonderful Meconopsis Olga... I have some competition though :
1-2-3 : Meconopsis "Huntfield" - obtained from Ian Christie (It's gorgeous Ian !! :D) during our visit a couple of weeks ago - and flowering in Belgium now, where the weather is quite Scottish at the moment so it feels at home. Now I need to get it through our Summer... ::) ::) :-\
There have been more eyecatchers over the last few days/weeks :
4-5 : Arenaria purpurascens - hugging the rocks it grows inbetween
6-7 : Aquilegia Bertolinii - I love it !
8 Allium karataviense 'Ivery Queen'
9) Campanula aucheri in full bloom
10) Campanula chamissonis 'Major' - reliably flowering each year !
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Some more :
1 Campanula biebersteiniana
2 Dactylorhiza sp... - they don't like my garden normally - but this one sowed itself in a very shallow pan 4 or 5 years ago and it keeps going ::) ::)
3) Dianthus haematocalyx v. pindicola
4) Dianthus "Inschriah Dazzler" (what a well chosen name !!)
5) Dianthus "La Bourboule" in full swing
6) Dianthus monspessulanus - slightly over the top and starting to turn pinkish
7) Dianthus 'Pudsey Prize' - a new one for me
8) Dicentra "King of Hearts" - will not stop flowering before the first frost !
9) Erigeron chrysopsidis "Grand Ridge" - they don't come much more floriferous than this one !
10) Geranium farreri - brave and beautiful little thing !
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Some lovely stuff there Luc. Well done with the Meconopsis, I've never managed to grow one here. What are you feeding your Allium karataviense with, I've had the normal pinkish form for about three years and it still has only one flower? Loved the Campanulas too, I loose all mine (except portenschlagiana!!) to slugs and snails.
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Thanks David !
Can't take much credit for the Meconopsis yet David - I only brought it home two weeks ago... ;D ;) :-\ - keeping my fingers crossed though.
The Allium gets it's portion of potash David, according to BD's instructions !! ;D I started with two bulbs, three years ago and have now 5 flowers in it's third flowering season ! :D
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Some more, just for the fun of it ! ;D
1) Globularia sp. - was brought home from the French Alps - no name I'm afraid, maybe somebody can help ??
2) Pentstemon 'Six Hills'
3) Phlox chattahoochee
4) Ptilotrichum spinosum
5) Ramonda myconi "Jim's Shadow" - has suffered somewhat from the rain
6) Ramonda nathaliae
7) Veronica austriaca
8 Veronica 'Blue Sheen'
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Some lovely stuff there Luc. Well done with the Meconopsis, I've never managed to grow one here. What are you feeding your Allium karataviense with, I've had the normal pinkish form for about three years and it still has only one flower? Loved the Campanulas too, I loose all mine (except portenschlagiana!!) to slugs and snails.
David - I thought it was impossible to grow Meconopsis in Devon too - but 3rd time lucky this year I've overwintered 'Slieve Donard' obtained from Rosemoor in good large pots [ex-Hugh Nunn, I think] into 2nd year. Flowers started opening a few days ago on a stately fower spike. Secret for me seems to be wind shelter from the SW gales (planted behind a deciduous Azaelia between evergreen shrubs) as much as dappled light (not sense shade), and an acid open soil with very old composted Leylandii shreddings mixed in with abandon. Let's hope I can keep it going :-\ - may never live up to the show these put on in more Northerly climes but I'll gladly keep them anyway !
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What a wonderful display, Luc 8) So many good plants doing so well... I must pick out the little Penstemon as a real sweetie.
What a delight it mut be to sit in your garden at this time. It's no surprise to me that you are able to take prizewinning photos in that garden!
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You're too flattering Maggi.. :-[ :-[ but thanks anyway :-*
Actually it wouldn't be all that nice sitting in the garden right now ;) It's drizzling and the thermometer says 9°C.... but we should have 25°C by the end of the week.. the Mec won't like that.. :-\
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Luc,
Exploding with colour into June. :o What a fabulous selection.
I have to agree with Maggi; that Penstemon is just perfect. :D
Graham
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Luc, great, great selection of flowers and great display in the garden at the moment.
Paddy
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Some lovely stuff there Luc. Well done with the Meconopsis, I've never managed to grow one here. What are you feeding your Allium karataviense with, I've had the normal pinkish form for about three years and it still has only one flower? Loved the Campanulas too, I loose all mine (except portenschlagiana!!) to slugs and snails.
David - I thought it was impossible to grow Meconopsis in Devon too - but 3rd time lucky this year I've overwintered 'Slieve Donard' obtained from Rosemoor in good large pots [ex-Hugh Nunn, I think] into 2nd year. Flowers started opening a few days ago on a stately fower spike. Secret for me seems to be wind shelter from the SW gales (planted behind a deciduous Azaelia between evergreen shrubs) as much as dappled light (not sense shade), and an acid open soil with very old composted Leylandii shreddings mixed in with abandon. Let's hope I can keep it going :-\ - may never live up to the show these put on in more Northerly climes but I'll gladly keep them anyway !
Thanks for the tips Kim. I must say I haven't tried a bought plant my attempts have been with seed.
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Perhaps a large parasol for the meconopsis and an electric fan to keep them cool, Luc? ???
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Sounds good Maggi - maybe I'll need the same for myself... ;D ;D
Thanks for the kind words Graham and Paddy - glad you like the pix ! ;)
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Sounds good Maggi - maybe I'll need the same for myself... ;D ;D
I was thinking it would be pleasant for Rita, Luc, where you could bring her a cool drink..... ;)
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She always does bring me a cool drink Maggi - I can't complain.. ::) :o ;) and then we share it... 8) ;)
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She always does bring me a cool drink Maggi - I can't complain.. ::) :o ;) and then we share it... 8) ;)
You old smoothie you ;D
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Nice collection Luc! and a lot of them would be excellent to fill some troughs over here ;D ;D ;D
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Luc some lovely plants there i do love your Ramonda... Good luck with your Meconopsis, keep telling it its still in Scotland it might believe you.
I shall post some pictures of my Meconopsis soon ;D.
Angie :)
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Luc,
How many beautiful plants! I like Meconopsis, white Ramonda and phlox.
Dodecatheon dentatum
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Polygonatum hookerii
(http://cs9472.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_377319d0.jpg)
Meconopsis punicea
(http://cs9472.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_63b54397.jpg)
(http://cs9472.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_ddd5ba3d.jpg)
Edraianthus serpyllifolius
(http://cs9472.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_c2b57011.jpg)
Pinus mugo Fruhlingsgold
(http://cs9472.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_8bddc6e0.jpg)
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Ah the promise!
johnw
And that little slice of heaven a promise of so much more to come.
Maggi, gorgeous bluebells but perhaps Cumbria's not a good place to be today. What is it about our modern society that makes people go so totally, obscenely off the rails.
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Olga,
your fotography never seases to amaze me. Thanks so much for sharing all of these wonderful plant portraits. You have a rare talent for composition.
Jamie
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I've had 3 bulbs of this species for 5 years, every spring I've feared I'll find that big soggy hole so typical of where last years Arisaema bulb was. They don't offset readily. The year before last I finally had flowers of both genders, the resulting seed was much smaller than any other Arisaema I'm familiar with. Combine that with a 2 year germination cycle and a lot can happen to a flat in that time. Last month while cleaning I absentmindedly put another flat on top, sure enough everything germinated. I only noticed the etiolated seedlings on Tuesday. How annoyed would I have been had I missed them another week. Anyway Arisaema elephas in the garden, hope there is lots of foliage variability in the seedlings.
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#1 Glaucidium braving the cold spring weather there (Forsythia still out!) and a good frost outside St. John's the night before.
Three Salix at Oxen Pond Botanics on Wednesday. 2 & 3 are S. vestita, 4 is S. reticulata. #5 & 6 are in the new crevice garden 5, 6 & 7.
johnw
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John,
the crevice garden has that certain architectural coolness. Quite striking. Plants ain't bad, either. ;D
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The crevice feature looks excellent John and the Glaucidium seems in great condition !
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They seem to have no problem flowering Erythronium americanum at Oxen Pond. Must have been quite the show.
johnw
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I must admit, the crevice garden is the worst rock feature I've seen. ::)
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Fred - I have to agree, personally I do not like the type of rocks nor the site chosen. It's a pity it was not integrated somehow into the limestone area, space & financing no doubt were problems. The placement of large rocks in the limestone area is superb, that was done by Bernard Jackson when he was curator - now in Scotland - and the rocks donated and transported from their west coast - a 12 hour ride away. The plants are doing well in the crevices though.
I have seen much worse, some real atrocities on the west coast of North America.
The ones on this Forum by ZZ are superb. The last photo in this reply #12 is utter perfection to me http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4656.msg125373#msg125373 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4656.msg125373#msg125373)
johnw
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The ones on this Forum by ZZ are superb. The last photo in this reply #12 is utter perfection to me http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4656.msg125373#msg125373 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4656.msg125373#msg125373)
I agree John, any one of those, they are far superior. ;D
I have seen much worse, some real atrocities on the west coast of North America.
Oh my, please don't publish pictures :o
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Which species I can't recall but Philip MacDougall says I should plant it out as it is so tough. In Nova Scotia ??? ::) Much redder than the pic.
johnw
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Grevillea rosmarinifolia perhaps? But outside in Nova Scotia ?.... has Philip been overdosing on the optimism pills?
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Another couple of Roscoea bursting out ( like June?)
Roscoea humeana "Rosemoor Plum"
Roscoea cautleyoides "Jeffrey Thomas"
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Grevillea rosmarinifolia perhaps? But outside in Nova Scotia ?.... has Philip been overdosing on the optimism pills?
Maggi
He was addicted to them when he lived here. He grew Persimmons and fruited them even after my protestations that this was not the climate for them.
johnw
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Grevillea rosmarinifolia perhaps? But outside in Nova Scotia ?.... has Philip been overdosing on the optimism pills?
Maggi
He was addicted to them when he lived here. He grew Persimmons and fruited them even after my protestations that this was not the climate for them.
johnw
Crikey! Perhaps you'd better plant out the Grevillea in that case!
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Penstemon angustifolius ? from The SRGC seed ex 2008/2009 is flowering now here in Sweden, and it truly is a lovely species. Does it look like the real thing ?
Cleome chilensis is also starting to produce flowers with real nice flowers where the purple anthers contrast nicely to the clear white petals.
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Very nice, Paul! The penstemon looks correct from what I can tell.
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A few pictures from the garden today (still under 10C today, but we can now garden 24 hours in the light..)
1-2 Claytonia megarhiza nivalis
3 Taraxacum pseudoroseum
4 Smilacina stellata
5 Anemone narcissiflora
6 Persicaria bistortoides
7 Amelanchier alnifolia
8 Darmera peltata
9 Mertensia ciliata
10 Rhodiola rosea
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Just a few more if I may:
1 Lamiastrum galeobdolon
2 Lamium maculatum
3 Montia perfoliata variegata (thanks to JohnnyD)
4 Fagopyrum esculentum (Buckwheat)
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Maggi, I think John's pic is Grevillia rosmarinifolia, and despite being an optimist, even I don't think it would do in NS. The one that might be worth a try in Lunenburg or along the south shore of NS is Grevillia victoria. I'll burden John with one the next time I visit.
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A few pictures from the garden today (still under 10C today, but we can now garden 24 hours in the light..)
1-2 Claytonia megarhiza nivalis
3 Taraxacum pseudoroseum
4 Smilacina stellata
5 Anemone narcissiflora
6 Persicaria bistortoides
7 Amelanchier alnifolia
8 Darmera peltata
9 Mertensia ciliata
10 Rhodiola rosea
nice to see your garden in flower :) we seem to go back and forth between above and below 'normal'...24 hours! i didn't realise you were that far north! we only get to around 10-10:30 here, but usually too many mosquitoes to be out some hours before that....
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Flowering here today:
- Asphodeline lutea
- Cypripedium (reginae?): a local gardening centre was selling nameless Cyp's for 8 euro a piece (some of them with more than 6 noses) and this is one of them
- Lilium oxypetalum
- Primula bulleyana
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- Cypripedium (reginae?): a local gardening centre was selling nameles Cyp's for 8 euro a piece (some of them with more than 6 noses) and this is one of them
Good grief! What an amazing price :o
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A few pictures from the garden today (still under 10C today, but we can now garden 24 hours in the light.
Stephen, your garden must look amazing with all these flowerings, especially lovely is Mertensia ciliata - would love to see a general shot at some stage if possible. How does the 24 hours light effect the behavior of insects and animals and birds?
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A few flowering this week
Campanula persicfolia
Helichrysum orientale
Nomocharis pardanthina
Physoplexis comosa
Saxifrage cotyledon
Trolliius chinensis first flowers from seed ex
An unknown Iris
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- Cypripedium (reginae?): a local gardening centre was selling nameles Cyp's for 8 euro a piece (some of them with more than 6 noses) and this is one of them
Good grief! What an amazing price :o
Indeed, thought so too...so I bought a couple of them ;)
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'Ulla Silkens' might be an option, Wim.
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'Ulla Silkens' might be an option, Wim.
Thanks Giles, the sign in the gardening centre said it could be hybrids so 'Ulla Silkens' is a possibility.
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My neighbor's Wisteria has been pruned as a tree. Every shoot that emerges is pinched back to 1 set of leaves and now it flowers every year after one very long wait. Might anyone hazard a guess to the variety?
johnw
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Warm to hot weather just keeps on coming, bringing so much into bloom... a miscellaneous smattering of flowers:
1. Campanula persicifolia - I like vertical accents in the garden, love this Campanula in blue, lavender and white.
2. Campanula persicifolia - lavender
3. Philadelphus lewisii - Wonderful native American species, intense fragrance. This is a variegated one, but the variegation (tiny yellow flecks) is inconspicuous.
4. Porteranthus trifoliatus (previously Gillenia trifoliata) - a fabulous northeastern USA native for a long season of bright white butterfly flowers, red stems, and trim dark green foliage. It is one of those woodland plants that seems to grows 10 times as big and lush under garden conditions. This photo shows my old plant, maybe 15 years, that grows 4-1/2' tall x 5' wide (135 x 150 cm) smothered with flowers.
5. Porteranthus trifoliatus - flower closeup
6. Onosma species - Turkey
7. Roscoea cautleyoides
8. Cypripedium reginae
9. Triteleia hyacinthina - one of the lovely "trits", seeds around modestly. The foliage in the background is an allium.
10. Allium geyeri - modest yet pretty heads of link pink urceolate flowers.
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No Roscoeas through the ground here yet .....they may appear before July, but perhaps not!
Mick , I ould call your first Campanula C. nitida......McMark shows C. persicifolia... if you save seed from yours then the vast majority of the seedlings will be like McMark's.....only a tiny percentage are the dwarf variety.... :P
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- Cypripedium (reginae?): a local gardening centre was selling nameless Cyp's for 8 euro a piece (some of them with more than 6 noses) and this is one of them
I'll give you 10 euro, that's 25% profit ;D
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Stephen, it seems even your high-latitude area is ahead of us here!
A few in bloom:
1) Patrinia sibirica, now open. Curious that it is a spring-bloomer, as the other patrinias I've grown are late bloomers.
2) Lesquerella arizonica
3) Alyssum wulfenianum
4) Paeonia tenuifolium, somewhat splayed out by the recent snow.
5, 6) Pulsatilla albana var. lutea... with the skeleton of Vella spinosa behind it, which I've been hoping will resurrect itself... time to give up, I guess! :(
7) Lamium orvala
8 ) Anemone nemorosa 'Vestal'
9) Paeonia mlokosewitschii, starting its first bloom.
10) Physaria didymocarpa
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Maggi,
Just been out and checked the label(in the rain).
Its labelled as C. persicfolia v.planiflora. Just googled this and it is a synonym with C. nitida
thanks for the tip on seed.
Cheers
Mick
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My neighbor's Wisteria has been pruned as a tree. Every shoot that emerges is pinched back to 1 set of leaves and now it flowers every year after one very long wait. Might anyone hazard a guess to the variety?
johnw
John,
looks like a Wisteria floribunda.
http://biodiversity.georgetown.edu/images/Wisteria-floribunda-Macrobotrys-030505-5s.jpg
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Stephen, it seems even your high-latitude area is ahead of us here!
If we are (I was going to say the opposite), you seem to be very rapidly catching up..
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Today's haul:
1-2 Rubus arcticus x stellarcticus coming into bloom
3 Aquilegia flabellata, I think
4-5 After 5 years, this was the total crop of my Wasabi (Wasabia japonica) - has very particular requirements..
6 Lomatium nudicaule (the easiest species?)
7-8 Lomatium utriculatum (this has never flowered - would you have guessed it was in the same genus as the last one?)
9-10 Viola canadensis - as I said in another thread this flowered last year pretty well all summer last year.
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My neighbor's Wisteria has been pruned as a tree. Every shoot that emerges is pinched back to 1 set of leaves and now it flowers every year after one very long wait. Might anyone hazard a guess to the variety?
johnw
John,
looks like a Wisteria floribunda.
http://biodiversity.georgetown.edu/images/Wisteria-floribunda-Macrobotrys-030505-5s.jpg
I thought it might be Macrobotrys with such long racemes. Thanks
johnw
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Grevillea rosmarinifolia perhaps? But outside in Nova Scotia ?.... has Philip been overdosing on the optimism pills?
Maggi - Ken tells me the Grevillea is 'Canberra Gem'. When in doubt ask the obvious!
johnw
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A few Nomocharis in flower as well as Lilium macklinae #3 & Lilium pyrenaicum #6.
Awaiting 2 inches of rain.
johnw
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Grevillea rosmarinifolia perhaps? But outside in Nova Scotia ?.... has Philip been overdosing on the optimism pills?
Maggi - Ken tells me the Grevillea is 'Canberra Gem'. When in doubt ask the obvious!
johnw
Well, yes, that answer was found close enough, was it not!
It's a rosmarinifolius hybrid, I learn.....
http://www.anbg.gov.au/acra/descriptions/acc092.html
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and...
1. Trillium grandiflorum
2. Primula veris (Cowslip), also a wild flower in this area, but has a local distribution, one of my favourites and a sign of warmer days to come (but not too warm, I hope...)
3. Hylomecon japonicum¨
4. Trillium camschatcense and Cardamine pentaphyllos
5. Trillium camschatcense
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More...
1) Euphorbia griffithii 'Fireglow'; when the bloom is fresh, the plant is still pretty sparse, but it fills in later.
2) Iris timofejewii
3) Arisaema triphyllum
4) Globularia
5) Helleborus 'Red Mountain'
And I found - and squashed - a couple of these critters yesterday (5)... very interesting, as I'd never even seen one (lily beetle, that is) before last year.
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A few Nomocharis in flower as well as Lilium macklinae #3 & Lilium pyrenaicum #6.
Awaiting 2 inches of rain.
johnw
Wish I could grow Nomocharis like that - not cold enough here I think !! My Lilium pyrenaicum are not open yet - will hopefully come out by the end of the week or next, and looking good this year.
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First flowers, finally, on Dracocephalum palmatum from seed a few years ago... ridiculously overisized, considering the leaves are 5mm across in the widest dimension!
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First flowers, finally, on Dracocephalum palmatum from seed a few years ago... ridiculously overisized considering the leaves are 5mm across, the widest dimension!
congrats! i have about 2 tiny seedlings of a draco from holubec(or was it pavelka? i'd have to look it up..) that look like they may not be much bigger vegetatively than yours!
great colour on the euphorbia above!
and--are those the dread lily beetles? some folks on coldzone yahoo group have been freaking out about them.....
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The draco, pictured above, is very nice even without flowers... totally evergreen. Glad it's finally started to bloom though! Which are you growing, Cohan? I also started D. heterophyllum (gorgeous plant), foetidum, and poulsenii (absolutely minute leaves!) from Pavelka and Holubec.
Yes, it's lily beetle... one was in a martagon that was rather chewed up; the other was nearby. I saw/killed 4 last year. What a shame, as lilies were such effortless, pest-free, essentially bullet-proof plants up until now.
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The draco, pictured above, is very nice even without flowers... totally evergreen. Glad it's finally started to bloom though! Which are you growing, Cohan? I also started D. heterophyllum (gorgeous plant), foetidum, and poulsenii (absolutely minute leaves!) from Pavelka and Holubec.
Yes, it's lily beetle... one was in a martagon that was rather chewed up; the other was nearby. I saw/killed 4 last year. What a shame, as lilies were such effortless, pest-free, essentially bullet-proof plants up until now.
its poulsenii--i just checked, there are actually 3 seedlings...lol..i guess i need to start getting these things outside, its just been so darn cold at night..they are in for a shock.....
sorry about the beetles :( i wonder if they will make it out here to the bush...not that i have many lilies--guess i wont be buying any as plants..can they hitch with dormant bulbs? they'd have quite a trip to get here garden by garden...
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can they hitch with dormant bulbs? they'd have quite a trip to get here garden by garden...
I expect they could, as the adults overwinter in the soil. (The larvae also pupate in the soil in the summer, then emerge as adults in late summer.) I imagine the bulb trade is likely how they got to North America in the first place, and very likely how they are getting further and further west. At least the adults don't fly... do they? I haven't read that they do, at any rate.
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First flowers, finally, on Dracocephalum palmatum from seed a few years ago... ridiculously overisized, considering the leaves are 5mm across in the widest dimension!
Lori, that's an awesome Draco. I had this one as a seedling plant in the garden for a couple years, from one of the Czech sources, then the promising plant died one winter, so it is great to see what it looks like in flower... love the oversized flower. Congratulations.
Regarding lily beetle, you have my condolences. Cohan, you are justified in being careful buying liliaceous plants; about 10 years ago I bought one of those great big showy overbred lilies for my wife who likes big flowered stuff that "you can see" as she says, and that was the start of lily beetle in my yard. Ever since then it has been a constant battle with lily beetle, and i n spite of daily picking and destroying, there is no end to them... and I don't even have any lilies now, just Frits, which lily beetles will ravage. Wish I had been more careful. If I could do it over again, I would only grow such things from seed again.
Addenda: I wasn't even watching, forgot that this was my 1000th SRGC post, what a gas-bag I am ;-)
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I wasn't even watching, forgot that this was my 1000th SRGC post
Well, congrats are in order to you then! :) Thanks for all your contributions!
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mark--congrats on joining the chatty ranks ;)
lori--i don't know, although people in winnipeg were talking about them being spread by wind, which must suggest flight, don't know if that's adults or what.....
so, no lily bulbs... what about little things like crocus, iris etc?
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I expect they could, as the adults overwinter in the soil. (The larvae also pupate in the soil in the summer, then emerge as adults in late summer.) I imagine the bulb trade is likely how they got to North America in the first place, and very likely how they are getting further and further west. At least the adults don't fly... do they? I haven't read that they do, at any rate.
They can fly. When approached for hand-picking and killing, they drop to the ground and start digging in around loose detritus, pretty effective self-defense mechanism, giving the impression they only walk and climb, but they can also fly. I use a small glass bottle with a lid to capture lily beetles, and learned that I must keep the lid on when in my lily beetle hunting mode, otherwise they can escape and fly off. After catching a bunch of them, I half fill the bottle with water; they don't swim so well.
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They can fly. When approached for hand-picking and killing, they drop to the ground and start digging in around loose detritus, pretty effective self-defense mechanism, giving the impression they only walk and climb, but they can also fly. I use a small glass bottle with a lid to capture lily beetles, and learned that I must keep the lid on when in my lily beetle hunting mode, otherwise they can escape and fly off. After catching a bunch of them, I half fill the bottle with water; they don't swim so well.
That does make sense, regrettably, given their spread. (And I somehow imagined that they looked like they should be able to fly. ???) Darn.
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mark--congrats on joining the chatty ranks ;)
lori--i don't know, although people in winnipeg were talking about them being spread by wind, which must suggest flight, don't know if that's adults or what.....
so, no lily bulbs... what about little things like crocus, iris etc?
Thanks Cohan. My neighbor has lilies and frits with no sign of lily beetle, yet the same types of plants in my yard are ravaged. Now granted, people have fairly large properties around here, 2 acres typically is the minimum, and my neighbor has huge acreage, but they are only a few hundred feet down the road, yet no lily beetle in their gardens. If they do spread, my guess is by flight, as they do fly and might fly to a new breeding ground having suitable plants.
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mark--congrats on joining the chatty ranks ;)
lori--i don't know, although people in winnipeg were talking about them being spread by wind, which must suggest flight, don't know if that's adults or what.....
so, no lily bulbs... what about little things like crocus, iris etc?
Thanks Cohan. My neighbor has lilies and frits with no sign of lily beetle, yet the same types of plants in my yard are ravaged. Now granted, people have fairly large properties around here, 2 acres typically is the minimum, and my neighbor has huge acreage, but they are only a few hundred feet down the road, yet no lily beetle in their gardens. If they do spread, my guess is by flight, as they do fly and might fly to a new breeding ground having suitable plants.
i have one close neighbour-about 100 metres give or take a couple dozen....1/2 mile minimum in other directions..
i wasn't planning on buying any lilies anytime soon, now i wont, but just wonder about other bulbs, whether they are safe to buy....?
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i have one close neighbour-about 100 metres give or take a couple dozen....1/2 mile minimum in other directions..
i wasn't planning on buying any lilies anytime soon, now i wont, but just wonder about other bulbs, whether they are safe to buy....?
The plants I have seen lily beetle on include Lilium of course, Fritillaria (big time), and sometimes on Narcissus (not too often, but it has been observed); only these three. But I'd be wary of buying nursery plants of things like Nomocharis or other liliaceae.
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i have one close neighbour-about 100 metres give or take a couple dozen....1/2 mile minimum in other directions..
i wasn't planning on buying any lilies anytime soon, now i wont, but just wonder about other bulbs, whether they are safe to buy....?
The plants I have seen lily beetle on include Lilium of course, Fritillaria (big time), and sometimes on Narcissus (not too often, but it has been observed); only these three. But I'd be wary of buying nursery plants of things like Nomocharis or other liliaceae.
i wont be finding anything exotic like nomocharis around here ;) not even sure if frits could be found, though of course there are mail order places... some of those specialty nurseries must be praying to be spared :(
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Aquilegia scopulorum, raised from wild-collected seed (Piute County, Utah, from Bjorn Malkmus/rareplants.de). At first I was surprised to see a white flower but according to the Robert Nold book they can be pure white.
BTW, does anyone have a suggestion for a good background color? My carpet gives good contrast but the picture looks like a wall paper from a cheap British hotel ;D
Next a flower of Cistus albidus, from my plant collected in the Sierra Alhamilla, SE-Spain
Finally Cerastium arvense. Quite common here in drier places, but very beautiful flowers and a soft perfume!
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some pics from today :
Gladiolus + Bletilla near my pond
Lonicera chinensis ( I have received this plant before some years under this name ...can anyone confirm it ?
Regards
Hans
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Hans Pakker: try a grey card, bought from an art supply shop to make a background. The shade of grey known as " 18% grey" for photographic purposes is recognised as a good "neautral" background for photos, giving easy true representation of colours.... :)
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McMark, many congratulations on reaching your 1000th post.... Ian and are are pleased to have celebrated your achievemnt with a drink and an ice-cream!
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McMark, many congratulations on reaching your 1000th post.... Ian and are are pleased to have celebrated your achievemnt with a drink and an ice-cream!
Thanks. What flavor? :D
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Vanilla, always vanilla :D
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Hans Pakker: try a grey card, bought from an art supply shop to make a background. The shade of grey known as " 18% grey" for photographic purposes is recognised as a good "neautral" background for photos, giving easy true representation of colours.... :)
Thanks Maggi! But now I have to out again for a "18%-gray-card" and have those shop owners eyes pointed at me again..."A what?! :o " Try to get loam-based compost, a pH meter, 1M KCl, a fine ground sieve (in a cooking shop), plastic food containers to sow, or anything else other than a huge flatscreen TV in Holland and they act like you've been escaped from an asylum ;D
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Lonicera chinensis ( I have received this plant before some years under this name ...can anyone confirm it ?
Regards
Hans
According to Rehder's monograph on Lonicera, (in the Report of the Missouri Botanic Garden 1903 - so ideas may have changed!) chinensis is a variety of Lonicera japonica. Distinguished by "Leaves pubescent on both sides when young; corolla white fading to yellow, rarely slightly tinged red, upper lip divided scarcely one-half; bractlets as broad as ovaries."
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Thanks Maggi! But now I have to out again for a "18%-gray-card" and have those shop owners eyes pointed at me again..."A what?! :o " Try to get loam-based compost, a pH meter, 1M KCl, a fine ground sieve (in a cooking shop), plastic food containers to sow, or anything else other than a huge flatscreen TV in Holland and they act like you've been escaped from an asylum ;D
Oh dear! But, you know, just because they look at you like that, doesn't mean you did not just escape! Or pehaps the asylum let you out on holiday!! ;D ;D
People look at me like that all the time, Hans..... that's their problem, not ours!! ;)
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According to Rehder's monograph on Lonicera, (in the Report of the Missouri Botanic Garden 1903 - so ideas may have changed!) chinensis is a variety of Lonicera japonica. Distinguished by "Leaves pubescent on both sides when young; corolla white fading to yellow, rarely slightly tinged red, upper lip divided scarcely one-half; bractlets as broad as ovaries."
Gail - thank you :)
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Some plants flowering here today:
Physoplexis comosa
Sauromatum venosum
Taraxacum albidum and
Taraxacum pseudoroseum
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Lilium x dalhansonii 'Mrs R.O.Backhouse'
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Logically Cohan, lily beetles would only attach liliaceous plants and crocus and iris are iridaceous, so no, they don't attack those, but do the beetles fully understand this logic? I imagine the liliaceous plants have some chemical or other substance in them which attracts the beetles and if that were to be found in anything else..... ??? So far as I know, Narcissus fly species only attack Amaryllidaceae.
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Several pictures from recent days:
Alyssum aizoides - similar to A. propinquum but not so spreading
Androsace himalaica grows quite well outdoors
Androsace mariae, the white form
Cortusa matthioli in shady place of peat beds
Dianthus myrtinervius ssp. caespitosus - a tiny form of D. myrtinervius
Meconopsis horridula - its leave rosette is showy even without flowers
Phyteuma globulariifolium - probably the smallest Phyteuma
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Logically Cohan, lily beetles would only attach liliaceous plants and crocus and iris are iridaceous, so no, they don't attack those, but do the beetles fully understand this logic? I imagine the liliaceous plants have some chemical or other substance in them which attracts the beetles and if that were to be found in anything else..... ??? So far as I know, Narcissus fly species only attack Amaryllidaceae.
yes, do the bugs read the books? probably no more than do the plants ;D my biggest concern is what is a danger to buy, but i suppose at some level, everything is :( and certainly no specialty nurseries around here, so any plants available come from some big grower elsewhere, grown on and or retailed here...
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Wim, very nice dandelions - does Taraxacum pseudoroseum seed around too much like our native T officinalis?
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Wim, very nice dandelions - does Taraxacum pseudoroseum seed around too much like our native T officinalis?
Anne, I wouldn't know. It's the first year I've grown them from seed. They say they don't seed around that much.
If you want some, I've got some seeds from T. pseudoroeum already, T. albidum just got it's first flowers so it will be a while before they set seed. So in a couple of weeks I can send you seed of both of them.
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Wim, very nice dandelions - does Taraxacum pseudoroseum seed around too much like our native T officinalis?
I have to agree, here, I find this an underused genus with some really wonderful plants, although I am less than tempted to try them due to the free-love reputation. In the wild, I find them a real joy and a sign of mother natures inventiveness.
but i do waffle on....
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Wim, very nice dandelions - does Taraxacum pseudoroseum seed around too much like our native T officinalis?
I have to agree, here, I find this an underused genus with some really wonderful plants, although I am less than tempted to try them due to the free-love reputation. In the wild, I find them a real joy and a sign of mother natures inventiveness.
but i do waffle on....
I grow them in a trough together, it's nice to see visitors looking twice at the flowers because they aren't used to pink and white dandelions :D. I'm catching all the seeds so they won't be spreading in the wild here.
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I love the exotic dandelions too!
Wonderful and interesting plants, Zdenek.
Is your Dianthus myrtinervius really the caespitosus form? It doesn't resemble much the one in the photo below, below, with the very distinctive stacked leaves. (The photo is mine from last year; it suffered a bit through this last winter.)
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Must say I thought that Zdenek's Dianthus myrtinervius ssp. caespitosus was a rather fine and venerable plant of that type.... grown woody with age... :-X :-\
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Okay, I see. I'll probably kill mine long before it becomes fine and venerable, at the rate it's going. ;)
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An unknown Eremurus that manages to hang on in my garden
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A few shots of bambus shoots. The P. bambusoides Castillonis can have canes of 8 meters in my climate. A bit of a roamer, as well, keeping in step with the other members of the genus.
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They can fly. When approached for hand-picking and killing, they drop to the ground and start digging in around loose detritus, pretty effective self-defense mechanism, giving the impression they only walk and climb, but they can also fly. I use a small glass bottle with a lid to capture lily beetles, and learned that I must keep the lid on when in my lily beetle hunting mode, otherwise they can escape and fly off. After catching a bunch of them, I half fill the bottle with water; they don't swim so well.
That does make sense, regrettably, given their spread. (And I somehow imagined that they looked like they should be able to fly. ???) Darn.
They fly quite well. Some of them try to escape by flying away rather than by dropping to the ground.
I have them in "sufficient" amounts. >:( Now I try to plant lilies only where I can easily reach in and pick the critters. They are not interested in safe sex. ;D I get them in pairs very often. The adults are not the problem they only nibble on the edges. The larvae are a problem in a couple of days they can turn a large Lilium superbum into a stick.
It makes sense to inspect the underside of all leaves where the adults have been eating small pieces. There might be eggs on the underside. I have only found them on Lilium (preferably broadleaved ones like martagon) Nomocharis but rarely. Fritillaria camtchatkensis and Cardiocrinum. Never on anything else - that is never EATING anything else.
I would never let them influence my choice of plants. They are manageable but very slimy (larvae)
I am more worried about the wild boars that now roam in the neighbourhood.
Göte
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Wild boars! Oh God! (Perhaps I should say Mein Gott, Gote, with apologies for the lack of accent marks. ;D)
That's a lovely selection of plants Zdenek. I especially like the Androsace himalaicum and the delightful, compact Phyteuma. Easy to see its relationship to Campanula with those leaves. The Alyssum is very pretty and compact, too. :)
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They can fly. When approached for hand-picking and killing, they drop to the ground and start digging in around loose detritus, pretty effective self-defense mechanism, giving the impression they only walk and climb, but they can also fly. I use a small glass bottle with a lid to capture lily beetles, and learned that I must keep the lid on when in my lily beetle hunting mode, otherwise they can escape and fly off. After catching a bunch of them, I half fill the bottle with water; they don't swim so well.
That does make sense, regrettably, given their spread. (And I somehow imagined that they looked like they should be able to fly. ???) Darn.
They fly quite well. Some of them try to escape by flying away rather than by dropping to the ground.
I have them in "sufficient" amounts. >:( Now I try to plant lilies only where I can easily reach in and pick the critters. They are not interested in safe sex. ;D I get them in pairs very often. The adults are not the problem they only nibble on the edges. The larvae are a problem in a couple of days they can turn a large Lilium superbum into a stick.
It makes sense to inspect the underside of all leaves where the adults have been eating small pieces. There might be eggs on the underside. I have only found them on Lilium (preferably broadleaved ones like martagon) Nomocharis but rarely. Fritillaria camtchatkensis and Cardiocrinum. Never on anything else - that is never EATING anything else.
I would never let them influence my choice of plants. They are manageable but very slimy (larvae)
I am more worried about the wild boars that now roam in the neighbourhood.
Göte
i may be spoiled, but i have never had to do anything to manage any insects in outdoor gardens... more than worrying about the garden though, i would not want to introduce new insects to the native plants which do include one lilium sp, and a number of others that may or may not be in the family anymore depending on whom you ask!
wild boars do sound like they could do a lot of damage quickly--easily spotted if hiding in a new plant purchase though ;)
there is an area a bit to the south and west of here that is having a bit of trouble with some escaped european (i think) boars....
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Wim, very nice dandelions - does Taraxacum pseudoroseum seed around too much like our native T officinalis?
I have to agree, here, I find this an underused genus with some really wonderful plants, although I am less than tempted to try them due to the free-love reputation. In the wild, I find them a real joy and a sign of mother natures inventiveness.
but i do waffle on....
Please waffle on about Dandelions and free-love as much as you want (I will now proceed to do so). Taraxacum fan here too, but not just the colourful ones as I also have a collection of (mainly French) improved vegetable cultivars as well as various other yellow-flowered species - just think what a thick-leaved Dandelion would do for your spring salads.. ;) No? I won't bore you with Dandelion leaf pictures though! OK, just one, the variegated Dandelion.
Another advantage of growing what people think of as weeds is that you can Point to a flowering Dandelion in a bed, explain the background and that you don't have weeds... In fact in my garden where the focus is edible plants of the world and knowing that maybe 95% of weeds are edible, you can indeed have close to a weedless garden (in theory, but even "weeds" can grow in the wrong place unfortunately)...
Dandelions are also valuable in other ways than food as I discovered unintentionally one year. I have made an Internet trade list more or less since the beginning of the Internet and one that ended up on the list a few years ago was Taraxacum kok-saghyz, the Rubber Dandelion, which was cultivated on a large scale in Russia and North America during the last world war when tropical rubber was less available - to the untrained eye it really looks just like the common and garden variety (small details in the flowers - I've lost an email which explained the details, so I'm not sure any more either). Well little did I know that there were research teams around the world looking again at alternative rubber sources, and this was one of the most interesting species both as it produces a rubber with special qualities and for "homeland security" issues (you can grow it yourself in cold climates). I was first contacted by a researcher in Switzerland and he told me that I was the only source of seed he had managed to find, just name your price he said! Later I sold seed to researchers both in the US, Canada and Japan. I should have asked a much higher price having the world monopoly on homegrown rubber! Nevertheless, I sold Dandelion seeds for over £100! Unfortunately, the market has since dried up as the superpowers are presumably now self-sufficient in rubber dandelion seed...
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Wim, very nice dandelions - does Taraxacum pseudoroseum seed around too much like our native T officinalis?
I have to agree, here, I find this an underused genus with some really wonderful plants, although I am less than tempted to try them due to the free-love reputation. In the wild, I find them a real joy and a sign of mother natures inventiveness.
but i do waffle on....
Please waffle on about Dandelions and free-love as much as you want (I will now proceed to do so). Taraxacum fan here too, but not just the colourful ones as I also have a collection of (mainly French) improved vegetable cultivars as well as various other yellow-flowered species - just think what a thick-leaved Dandelion would do for your spring salads.. ;) No? I won't bore you with Dandelion leaf pictures though! OK, just one, the variegated Dandelion.
Another advantage of growing what people think of as weeds is that you can Point to a flowering Dandelion in a bed, explain the background and that you don't have weeds... In fact in my garden where the focus is edible plants of the world and knowing that maybe 95% of weeds are edible, you can indeed have close to a weedless garden (in theory, but even "weeds" can grow in the wrong place unfortunately)...
Dandelions are also valuable in other ways than food as I discovered unintentionally one year. I have made an Internet trade list more or less since the beginning of the Internet and one that ended up on the list a few years ago was Taraxacum kok-saghyz, the Rubber Dandelion, which was cultivated on a large scale in Russia and North America during the last world war when tropical rubber was less available - to the untrained eye it really looks just like the common and garden variety (small details in the flowers - I've lost an email which explained the details, so I'm not sure any more either). Well little did I know that there were research teams around the world looking again at alternative rubber sources, and this was one of the most interesting species both as it produces a rubber with special qualities and for "homeland security" issues (you can grow it yourself in cold climates). I was first contacted by a researcher in Switzerland and he told me that I was the only source of seed he had managed to find, just name your price he said! Later I sold seed to researchers both in the US, Canada and Japan. I should have asked a much higher price having the world monopoly on homegrown rubber! Nevertheless, I sold Dandelion seeds for over £100! Unfortunately, the market has since dried up as the superpowers are presumably now self-sufficient in rubber dandelion seed...
a nice variegate! i would still love to grow something that would break the yellow and green monopoly ordinary dandelions have on the landscape here--right now the half the land it seems is yellow-and i don't mean my land, i mean the whole region! cultivated fields are especially vivid, but roadsides and ditches are awash with yellow flowers, and the species has solid inroads into meadows, forests and even (not the wettest parts) wetlands..if i could introduce genes for variegated leaves or pink flowers, to the masses, i would be happy!
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but even "weeds" can grow in the wrong place unfortunately)...
This is actually my definition of a weed, a plant growing in the wrong place. Such as Mecanopsis cambria......
Is there a good reference for edible weeds?
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A great disappointment having got my newly acquired Mandrago caulescens root into growth it has turned out to be a rhubarb and a not very exciting one. I wonder before it goes in the green recycling bin if it is edible although at the rate of growth it would have to put a spurt on before there is enough for a pie
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but even "weeds" can grow in the wrong place unfortunately)...
This is actually my definition of a weed, a plant growing in the wrong place. Such as Mecanopsis cambria......
Is there a good reference for edible weeds?
Yes, I was aware of that as I was writing... ;)
I gave a talk on edible weeds (If you can't beat them, eat them, Norwegianised) at a local gardening club last winter which was interestimg to put together and the plant in the wrong place was my main definition.
Ornamentals can become “weeds” – Meconopsis cambrica, Himalayan Balsam, Japanese Knotweed...
and weeds can become ornamentals – e.g., Agrostemma
Cultivated plants can also be weeds in the wrong place: Oats in a Barley field, rogue potatoes that have overwintered
There are a lot of classes of weeds, as above and also according to whether they are perennials, annuals etc..
Although most of the above have edible parts, I was thinking of the more common "native" garden weeds when I was making a point that most are edible. Buttercup is one that springs to mind that isn't edible, although more an arable weed I guess that's moved into gardens.
Although there are a number of European books on wild food which include weeds, I don't think there's one specifically on weeds. Next project, perhaps... You can also do an initial check of weed edibility on pfaf.org, although it isn't complete.
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Wild boars! Oh God! (Perhaps I should say Mein Gott, Gote, with apologies for the lack of accent marks. ;D)
That is perfect German Lesley. Your erudition is amazing ;D ;D
Göte
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A great disappointment having got my newly acquired Mandrago caulescens root into growth it has turned out to be a rhubarb and a not very exciting one. I wonder before it goes in the green recycling bin if it is edible although at the rate of growth it would have to put a spurt on before there is enough for a pie
Oh dear :(
As far as I know, most Rheum species have been used as vegetables in their native ranges (at least in reasonable amounts). Your picture makes me wonder if anyone has submitted one of the common rhubarbs on the show benches? They are rather spectacular plants in full flower!
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wild boars do sound like they could do a lot of damage quickly--easily spotted if hiding in a new plant purchase though ;)
there is an area a bit to the south and west of here that is having a bit of trouble with some escaped european (i think) boars....
You are mentioning one of the two things that are good with boars ;D
The other is that they are quite tasty when young.
The only good boar is the one on your table! ;D ;D
(Same for deer)
Our boars are also escapees and are now increasing enormously due to lack of natural predators.
I am embarking on an electric fence scheme.
Göte
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A great disappointment having got my newly acquired Mandrago caulescens root into growth it has turned out to be a rhubarb and a not very exciting one. I wonder before it goes in the green recycling bin if it is edible although at the rate of growth it would have to put a spurt on before there is enough for a pie
Oh dear :(
As far as I know, most Rheum species have been used as vegetables in their native ranges (at least in reasonable amounts). Your picture makes me wonder if anyone has submitted one of the common rhubarbs on the show benches? They are rather spectacular plants in full flower!
Stephen if only you were lucky enough to be in the EU I could have sent you some to try!
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I'm in the EU - haven't taken out Norwegian citizenship, yet ;)
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Jamie - Cologne must be very mild if you are able to grow Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Castillon' there. I love bamboos especially the Fargesias.
None of the really tall bamboos grow here as we have not enough heat. A few of the Phyllos grow but never achieve spectacular heights.
johnw
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My Haberlea liked this winter but the Ramonda serbica on top was better last year.
Göte
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The first of my Jankaeas has started to flower.
K.
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Cohan, if you wanted a different coloured dandelion you could try Crepis incana, a slightly shrubby, dwarfish plant with dandelion leaves but quite grey, and dandelion flowers of a clean pink. It is a popular and very attractive rock garden plant. Mostly it is said to be sterile and people propagate it from cuttings or root cuttings but one English nurseryman supplies fertile seed to the seed exchanges most years.
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Tony, I like your rhubarb and as the flowers aren't fully out, it may be better than you're expecting. But then, I like all the Rheum genus.
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Wild boars! Oh God! (Perhaps I should say Mein Gott, Gote, with apologies for the lack of accent marks. ;D)
That is perfect German Lesley. Your erudition is amazing ;D ;D
Göte
Thank you Gote. To be honest I wasn't sure whether to type ei or ie. :D
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gote and karel--love the gesneriads..will have to test a few here..
lesley-i am finding more and more fascinating things in the asteraceae-whether or not they bear any resemblance to dandelions! -not is quite good, actually ;) lots of interesting foliage and flowers, i have a few seedlings of various, and more seed to go in..
tony, i do like the big rhubarbs, and quite like the idea of the small ones--though disappointing to get what you didn't want--hope it was not costly...
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Before we leave the Dandelion theme, here's one more ornamental one which I like. It's a ground hugging species and the contrast between the dark red leaves and the yellow flowers is fantastic (sorry, the picture below, from a slide, is a bit unclear). I got it as Taraxacum faroense, but I haven't confirmed its identity. The dark red leaves are a visually pleasing addition to mixed salads.
Cohan: The idea of introducing a mix of Dandelions into the monoculture - roadsides are yellow here too at the moment - has also occurred to me. I had a group in the garden last week and showed them pseudoroseum. I said to them - remember this plant. If you notice in 20 years time that the roadside verges have changed colour, you'll know who was responsible...
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The first of my Jankaeas has started to flower.
K.
Wow
The only one I managed to get died first winter - sitting dry under a protruding rock.
Göte
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gote and karel--love the gesneriads..will have to test a few here..
Haberlea and Ramonda are very cold hardy in my place never protected never damaged.
Göte
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Before we leave the Dandelion theme, here's one more ornamental one which I like. It's a ground hugging species and the contrast between the dark red leaves and the yellow flowers is fantastic (sorry, the picture below, from a slide, is a bit unclear). I got it as Taraxacum faroense, but I haven't confirmed its identity. The dark red leaves are a visually pleasing addition to mixed salads.
Stephen, your first photo... is it upside down? Unless that Allium growing next to it is in the southern hemisphere ;D Do you eat the red dandelion leaves? When growing up, my neighbors who lived up on a hill with miserable poor soil where little would grow, would come down to our rich pasture bottomland conditions in our yard, where the dandelions grew gross and enormous, to harvest the leaves for salads.
For years my sole Taraxacum albidum was satisfied making one or two flowers per year, never seeding around to break the spring monotony of yellow dandelions by the millions in my lawn. It eventually gave up the ghost.
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Stephen, your first photo... is it upside down? Unless that Allium growing next to it is in the southern hemisphere ;D Do you eat the red dandelion leaves? When growing up, my neighbors who lived up on a hill with miserable poor soil where little would grow, would come down to our rich pasture bottomland conditions in our yard, where the dandelions grew gross and enormous, to harvest the leaves for salads.
For years my sole Taraxacum albidum was satisfied making one or two flowers per year, never seeding around to break the spring monotony of yellow dandelions by the millions in my lawn. It eventually gave up the ghost.
It could well be upside down and reversed as it's from a slide, but the shot is looking vertically down above the plant. I can see that the bottom of the photo is westwards; i.e., towards Fairbanks, if that helps ;) I would have taken the shot from the west side of the bed, so, no it's the right way up...
The Dandelion (various species which probably weren't differentiated) were an important part of the winter/spring Mediterranean diet (wild collected in the vineyards) and was I think used in most traditional societies from Siberia to Europe to North America, including native american tribes (the Cherokee, for example), but as a food plant it is nowadays probably most associated with the French. The attached first two pictures are of a French improved cultivar "Pissenlit Coeur Plein Ameliore" which I bought as a seed packet in a French supermarket about 10 years ago. The first picture is also from a slide and is the correct way, the flowers leaning towards the sun in the south. The second picture shows this plant which has been blanched by putting a bucket over the plant in spring. Looks good, tastes good and does you good... Yes, I frequently use Dandelions including the red in spring salads and some cooked dishes too.
The final picture proves that this far north with continuous daylight we have GIANT Dandelions, so you guys shouldn't complain - it could be a lot worse. My son in the picture is over 6 ft tall (the picture was taken over 20-years ago) ;)
I also lost T. albidum, but am trying again now (seedlings), which reminds me that white flowered T. pamiricum is about to flower, so may be back in a few days with a picture.
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It could well be upside down and reversed as it's from a slide, but the shot is looking vertically down above the plant. I can see that the bottom of the photo is westwards; i.e., towards Fairbanks, if that helps ;) I would have taken the shot from the west side of the bed, so, no it's the right way up...
Okay, now that picture looks normal to me ;D
(http://www.plantbuzz.com/MMcD/mmcd_beach_face_180_2.jpg)
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;) Can I point out that you are pointing south (not even west...). Your picture is also taken vertically as I see the gravel of your driveway in the background! :D
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;) Can I point out that you are pointing south (not even west...). Your picture is also taken vertically as I see the gravel of your driveway in the background! :D
Okay, I'm confused, my head is reeling. So, I'm trying various special spectacles, many powerful rosy colored ones, with which to view your rubescent taraxacums.
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Cleome chilensis is also starting to produce flowers with real nice flowers where the purple anthers contrast nicely to the clear white petals.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5556.msg155155#msg155155
Meant to respond to this sooner, but that's a nifty looking Cleome... love those long purple stamens. I had seen this species available on ChileFlora.com and wanted to order it, although being unemployed this year I held back from placing an order.
There was a time about 10 years ago I was doing some hybridization with Cleome... a fascinating and diverse genus found throughout much of the globe, although if one is to believe the new online Flora of North America, they have been relegated into about 6 separate genera. I was able to take C. hassleriana (you know: rose queen, cheery queen, etc), a robust 5-7 leaflet species with enormous showy heads of bloom, and cross with the tiny-flowered golden yellow C. lutea (from western USA), looks like a wild mustard, with leaflets mostly in threes, occasionally 5. Got hybrids that were dirt ugly, with big robust leaves like C. hassleriana except only 3 leaflets, and ugly few-flowered heads of whitish or pinkish flowers. Obviously needed to go into further generations, but pollinating them is so time consuming (and pollen ready in late morning when I would be at work), that I dropped the project. But one can dream of such "faffing" about.
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gote and karel--love the gesneriads..will have to test a few here..
Haberlea and Ramonda are very cold hardy in my place never protected never damaged.
Göte
I find Haberleas super-easy, Ramondas easy and Jankaeas..... :'( :'( :'( (The tears are mine.)
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Some yellows in the garden this week.
The first one is wandering by seed through the garden.
But never a nuisance.
Hieracium villosum 1
Hieracium villosum 2
Chrysogonum virginianum
Catananche caespitosa 1
Catananche caespitosa 2
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and some more good doing plants
Stachys lavandulaefolia
Amsonia tabernaemontana
Salvia officinalis Grete Stolze
Helianthemum
and we let every year some of these poppies seed around for its color in unexpected spots :D
Poppy
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Some more:
Dianthus plum. Pink Jewel
Still one of my favorite Geranium, have it already since the early sixties in culture:
Geranium cinereum Splendens
and a very strong, good flowering hybrid between the one shown first
and G. Ballerina
Geranium hybr.
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Some plant combinations:
Aethionema - Helianthemum (self seeded)
Saxifraga canaliculata - Geranium sang
Sedum Weihenst. Gold - Geranium Phil. Vapelle
Phlox Bill Baker - Salvia
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Some plants in the shade:
Stylophorum diphyllum
Impatiens omeiana
Astilboides tabularis
Cypripedium reginae
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And one which I keep in a pot
Hermannia stricta
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gote and karel--love the gesneriads..will have to test a few here..
Haberlea and Ramonda are very cold hardy in my place never protected never damaged.
Göte
i forget your exact winter lows, but i suspect we'd consider your winter very mild ;)
worthy of a try anyway--i don't remember if lori is growing any--she's my only 'near' (2.5hrs driving and a somewhat different climate!) example to compare to....lol
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Lots of good planting ideas there Luit, thank you.
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gote and karel--love the gesneriads..will have to test a few here..
Haberlea and Ramonda are very cold hardy in my place never protected never damaged.
Göte
i forget your exact winter lows, but i suspect we'd consider your winter very mild ;)
worthy of a try anyway--i don't remember if lori is growing any--she's my only 'near' (2.5hrs driving and a somewhat different climate!) example to compare to....lol
This winter i had -24°C. I think both survived close to -30° many years ago.
Göte
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Luit, it's really wonderful to see so many interesting plants and your 'old friends' in your garden. I love the swathes of Helianthemum and the views to the countryside beyond. The combinations of plantings are interesting too and what a feeling of relaxed timelessness there is in the Saxifraga canaliculata - Geranium sang spilling out on the earth from the container. Great scenes and ideas, thank you :)
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I love the exotic dandelions too!
Wonderful and interesting plants, Zdenek.
Is your Dianthus myrtinervius really the caespitosus form? It doesn't resemble much the one in the photo below, below, with the very distinctive stacked leaves. (The photo is mine from last year; it suffered a bit through this last winter.)
Lori, I am sorry I received it as caespitosus. I have no other idea.
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Hermannia stricta
Fantastic plant!
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i forget your exact winter lows, but i suspect we'd consider your winter very mild ;)
worthy of a try anyway--i don't remember if lori is growing any--she's my only 'near' (2.5hrs driving and a somewhat different climate!) example to compare to....lol
Yes, Haberlea and Ramonda both survive here and do well if sited properly (which mine have not been, and hence, tend to burn badly). I also know of a local alpine expert who is growing Jankaea successfully.
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Is your Dianthus myrtinervius really the caespitosus form?
Lori, I am sorry I received it as caespitosus. I have no other idea.
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Never mind, sorry, my mistake... it's been ruled to be "a rather fine and venerable plant of that type grown woody with age".
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Is your Dianthus myrtinervius really the caespitosus form?
Lori, I am sorry I received it as caespitosus. I have no other idea.
Never mind, sorry, my mistake... it's been ruled to be "a rather fine and venerable plant of that type grown woody with age".
Hardly "ruled", Lori! :) I did state that I thought the foliage was as I would expect it to be, showing the same disposition as that on your plant, and the longer woody stems to be a sign of the greater age of Zdenek's specimen as opposed to your younger chap! That's a statement of the plant as I see it,so not a ruling, anymore than I imagine your query of its identification was a "ruling" in that direction.... surely a comment, meant to add to a discussion?
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and some more good doing plants
Stachys lavandulaefolia
Amsonia tabernaemontana
Salvia officinalis Grete Stolze
Helianthemum
and we let every year some of these poppies seed around for its color in unexpected spots :D
Poppy
a nice time of year at your place, luit :) i like them all, but esp the little geranium--i like geraniums, and there are several large patches here planted by my mother or aunt some years ago--unfortunately all himalayense with that bluey purply colour i don't like..
is your soil mostly sand? or are those sand beds you've created, or am i just seeing things?
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i forget your exact winter lows, but i suspect we'd consider your winter very mild ;)
worthy of a try anyway--i don't remember if lori is growing any--she's my only 'near' (2.5hrs driving and a somewhat different climate!) example to compare to....lol
Yes, Haberlea and Ramonda both survive here and do well if sited properly (which mine have not been, and hence, tend to burn badly). I also know of a local alpine expert who is growing Jankaea successfully.
thanks, lori--i thought i'd seen you mention them, but wasn't positive..so what do you consider proper siting? some sort of sheltered spot? my lows will be worse than yours--and definitely lower (and prob for longer--30C is a given, -40C probable) than gote's but we do have reduced wind from the surrounding 'bush' and usually good snow in mid-winter--early and late winter can go either way, though...lol
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Magnolia figo.
About 12" high; strong banana fragrance; almost hardy.
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What a gorgeous Magnolia flower, Giles, the colour and shape is just lovely and it's an interesting fragrance you describe - how big will it grow eventually?
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I'm glad you like it Robin.
It probably won't get much more than 4' tall with me, as it will be cut back by the frost each year.
I've a darker form, which is meant to be hardier, but its flower didn't open properly.
I should add, that the flower is small - about the size of a 10p piece (? 1-2cm ?)
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a nice time of year at your place, luit :) i like them all, but esp the little geranium--i like geraniums, and there are several large patches here planted by my mother or aunt some years ago--unfortunately all himalayense with that bluey purply colour i don't like..
is your soil mostly sand? or are those sand beds you've created, or am i just seeing things?
Only sandy soil Cohan, as deep as you might dig ;D ;D i.e at least 30 m. or more.
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Hardly "ruled", Lori! :) I did state that I thought the foliage was as I would expect it to be, showing the same disposition as that on your plant, and the longer woody stems to be a sign of the greater age of Zdenek's specimen as opposed to your younger chap! That's a statement of the plant as I see it,so not a ruling, anymore than I imagine your query of its identification was a "ruling" in that direction.... surely a comment, meant to add to a discussion?
Yes, indeed. On the other hand, realizing that I've never seen an old specimen of this subspecies, and being unable to find any photos of one that seemed to be old, and considering the likely characteristics of old plants of this type, it seemed to be a very logical conclusion. ???
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it seemed to be a very logical conclusion. Huh
Oh, I see .... my reading of your comment was that you "sounded" very doubtful and dismissive of the "ruling" :-\ :-X
A misunderstanding, it seems .... who says we Brits are only divided from the Americans by a common language? ;D
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Very good Summer show Luit !!
Lots of colour ! Fabulous plants !
Thanks for showing !
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Very good Summer show Luit !!
Lots of colour ! Fabulous plants !
Thanks for showing !
Luc, these were made just before three days with rain. Today plants and garden were looking fine again!
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a nice time of year at your place, luit :) i like them all, but esp the little geranium--i like geraniums, and there are several large patches here planted by my mother or aunt some years ago--unfortunately all himalayense with that bluey purply colour i don't like..
is your soil mostly sand? or are those sand beds you've created, or am i just seeing things?
Only sandy soil Cohan, as deep as you might dig ;D ;D i.e at least 30 m. or more.
30m of sand! i remember you mentioning being near the dunes, nearer than i realised!
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Luit, the Impatiens has very nice foliage. Is it a low plant, especially when in bloom?
I'm quite unreasonably prejudiced against the Stylophorum, just because each time I have applied for or ordered seed of Hylomecon japonicum, it has turned out to be the Stylophorum instead of what it should be :'(
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Luit, the Impatiens has very nice foliage. Is it a low plant, especially when in bloom?
Lesley, I only received a big stock plant from a friend and he told me in his garden nearby it survived this (rather hard) winter.
Flowering yellow, about 50 cms. high. It is a suckering plant, so if hardy, I have to look out for not taking over the place ::) ;D
But the leaf pattern is very promising!
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Some more plants flowering here:
Geranium Sirak
Rodgersia pinnata Die Stolze
Sisymbrium luteum
Inula rhizocephala
Cypripedium reginae
Aster farreri Berggarten
Dianthus plumarius Whatfield Victoria
Penstemon Red Riding Hood
-- surprisingly hardy this winter :-\
Veronica austriaca Knallblau
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Some lovely plants there that I wouldn't mind having in my garden, really liked Aster farreri Berggarten 8)
Angie :)
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Is that Rodgersia Die Stolze flowering Luit or something growing through it? I love the dramatic leaf and the change of colour through emergence through the seasons but I have never seen it flowering - yours is a lovely patch - the Veronica too and so many others carpeting your garden 8)
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Robin,
I can answer for Luit, as i grow the plant, as well. Those are the flowers! I have one near the pond, where it has gotten a bit out of hand, as they are rampant growers once established. The flower heads are good for dried arrangements, too.
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Thanks for your help Jamie, I do love the leaves but have a different form - the flowers on Luit's one look great for arrangements :)
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OK, this is not exactly flowers or foliage, rather plumage and pomp, but somehow seems to works its magic on us all. Yesterday in the Forst Botanishen Garten, Köln-Rodenkirchen. If you do not know this bird...I really can't help you!
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Do they taste like chicken?
I can see no other use for them :P
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You don't like to be tickled Fred? ;D
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Here: Lilium parryi
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hi, some pics of an limestone dry area, with orchids, here in southwestern germany, rheinland pfalz...
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cheers
chris
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Lilium lijiangense
Magnolia x foggii 'Jack Fogg'
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It would be Magnolia frostii 'Jack Frost' here, this morning. :)
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hi, some pics of an limestone dry area, with orchids, here in southwestern germany, rheinland pfalz...
cheers
chris
nice range of flowers there!
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cohan, nice area here, but for orchids two weeks too late...next year more...at july and august, a lot of wildflowers too, centaurea, knautia, genista, rosa and many campanulas...an eldorado for butterflys and lizzards....in march many pulsatilla vulgaris...and, and, and...
cheers
chris
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cohan, nice area here, but for orchids two weeks too late...next year more...at july and august, a lot of wildflowers too, centaurea, knautia, genista, rosa and many campanulas...an eldorado for butterflys and lizzards....in march many pulsatilla vulgaris...and, and, and...
cheers
chris
its hard to be in the right place at the right time for all the flowers! i am getting out as often as i can now--i managed to find dodecatheon this year-a whole field even! and today just one menyanthes.....
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Cornus kousa Satomi is in flower a good 2-3 weeks earlier than normal. A beautiful thing it is but a friend astounded me today by saying he would never plant one - a problem with the colour. I suppose he's quite correct, mercifully it does not flower when the orange azaleas are out. I count us lucky in that it flowers now, it really is an unusual shade of pink, is there a tad of orange in that colour?
johnw
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Beautiful, I wonder what's not to like about the color?
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Cornus kousa Satomi is in flower a good 2-3 weeks earlier than normal. A beautiful thing it is but a friend astounded me today by saying he would never plant one - a problem with the colour. I suppose he's quite correct, mercifully it does not flower when the orange azaleas are out. I count us lucky in that it flowers when it does, it really is an unusual shade of pink, is there a tad of orange in that colour?
johnw
really stunning! hard to see what's wrong with it, but our dislikes are crucial for shaping the distinctiveness of our gardens :)
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Beautiful, I wonder what's not to like about the color?
Not a thing Mark. But I would be hard-pressed to come up with an under-planting other than white or a very soft blue. Can you imagine a nice bed of orange oriental poppies beneath? ;)
johnw
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Can you imagine a nice bed of orange oriental poppies beneath? ;)
johnw
absolutely! and beside should be a strong blue! lets hear it for tropical colour theme gardens on the east coast ;D
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Beautiful, I wonder what's not to like about the color?
Not a thing Mark. But I would be hard-pressed to come up with an under-planting other than white or a very soft blue. Can you imagine a nice bed of orange oriental poppies beneath? ;)
johnw
Well, I have this pink-flowered Kousa dogwood, still in a pot, overdue for planting out. Elsewhere in the garden, I have C. kousa 'Milky Way' (nice, easy-to-work-with-colorwise white flowers), which I underplant with hybrid Epimedium seedlings, which I imagine would look great if grown under a bold pink cultivar of C. kousa. I think the generally soft tones of Epimedium flowers in white, rose, and even a few yellows, would look nice under the dogwood. Also, since the Cornus flowers well after the Epimedium plants are in flower, the underplanting would just be harmonious epimedium foliage. Besides, I don't think that sun-loving oriental poppies would last long under the dense shade of C. kousa ;) ;) ;D
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One of my most successful colour combos was Clematis x Venosa 'Violacea' draped across a brilliant scarlet to crimson rhododendron. Pure drama. I can't remember the rhoso's name now. Grace Someone.
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Well, I have this pink-flowered Kousa dogwood, still in a pot, overdue for planting out. Elsewhere in the garden, I have C. kousa 'Milky Way' (nice, easy-to-work-with-colorwise white flowers), which I underplant with hybrid Epimedium seedlings, which I imagine would look great if grown under a bold pink cultivar of C. kousa.
I also have Milky Way, "underplanted" with Ground Elder (Aegopodium) and that works too ;)
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One of my most successful colour combos was Clematis x Venosa 'Violacea' draped across a brilliant scarlet to crimson rhododendron. Pure drama. I can't remember the rhoso's name now. Grace Someone.
R. 'Grace Seabrook' ???
one quarter griffithianum, one quarter unknown,one half striggillosum.... flowers "currant red at margins, shading at centre to blood red, funnel-shaped (3inches) 7.6cms across, in tight trusses".....
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I'm very happy to have overwintered my collection of Campanula argaea ( ? ) from Turkey in 2004. It was started from seed in 2008, and at the end of May this year it looked like this:
I have two plants and the unharmed one is about 40cm tall. The other plant has several shorter stems. I think its crown was damaged during the winter. It is now flowering and I am pretty sure it is C. argaea. What do you think ?
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Some other stuff flowering at the moment
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Lace Cap Hydrangea
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Happy to look at your pics again PaulM :D
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Several pictures of my plants flowering in this June:
Asperula sintenisii (we called it A. gussonii before)
Dianthus brevicaulis
Globularia incanescens
Linum uninerve
Mertensia primuloides
Scutellaria alpina
Silene petersonii
Silene pygmaea
Townsendia incana
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Zdenek,
every time a inspiration to see this excellent plants you show. Asperula sintenisii is superb. And a Globularia a genus I like very much.
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A few things are starting a good 3 weeks ahead this year, lovely blue ovaries. First flowering of a seed grown Scilla peruviana. Already three flowering stems on Beschorneria sp. unknown from high altitude Mexico. Apparently a piece of this species has survived and is about to flower after the bad winter in Dublin.
johnw
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Love it or hate it Primula 'Francisca Darts' is in flower here.
johnw
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I bought this Scutellaria laetoviolacea from Aberconway Nursery's stall at the SRGC Discussion Weekend last October in a tiny pot. First it was a lovely foliage plant, then was attractive in bud - reminded me of the sea dragons ( seahorse relatives ) I have seen in wildlife films.
Now it is flowering magnificently :)
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I bought this Scutellaria laetoviolacea from Aberconway Nursery's stall at the SRGC Discussion Weekend last October in a tiny pot. First it was a lovely foliage plant, then was attractive in bud - reminded me of the sea dragons ( seahorse relatives ) I have seen in wildlife films. Now it is flowering magnificently :)
I see that Keith and Rachel Lever won a Certificate of Merit with it at the AGS Summer show south a couple of weeks ago, picture of their plant is here:
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//Summer+Show+South+/406/?page=2 (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//Summer+Show+South+/406/?page=2)
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Thank you Maggi, 'Grace Seabrook' it was. I'd been thinking seaward but know that wasn't right. She looked wonderful with the violet of the clematis (my favourite) sprawling over her :D Not a planned combo, the clematis' pole had collapsed!
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I bought this Scutellaria laetoviolacea from Aberconway Nursery's stall at the SRGC Discussion Weekend last October in a tiny pot. First it was a lovely foliage plant, then was attractive in bud - reminded me of the sea dragons ( seahorse relatives ) I have seen in wildlife films.
Now it is flowering magnificently :)
Roma, that's one sharp looking Scutellaria. The foliage reminds me of some of the new leaf color forms of hybrid heuchera, and the flowers are outstanding. :D
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Love it or hate it Primula 'Francisca Darts' is in flower here.
johnw
Mark McD will be very surprised to hear that I love it. ???
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Love it or hate it Primula 'Francisca Darts' is in flower here.
johnw
Mark McM will be very surprised to hear that I love it. ???
I am indeed surprised ;D :o :o ::)
But that is what I love about gardening, it is so personal and deeply satisfying. And don't forget, one's taste can change. There was a time when I truly disliked spiky things like Agave and Yucca, items worshiped by North American gardeners who fancy such dryland things, but "I've come around" to seeing their beauty. One day, I was given a gift by a garden visitor, Saruma henryi, that odd monotypic genus whose name is an anagram for Asarum, to which it is related. I had seen this in gardens, and thought it unremarkable at best, dowdy and ugly at its worst. But, this dang thing has "grown on me", I've come to admire it considerably, and when grown in good soil and given good light and space to become a "specimen", it is rather fetching. But I find that it remains one of those "love it or hate it" plants for many gardeners.
As to Primula 'Francisca Darts', never heard of it before, but it is certainly an intriguing color combo. I'd have to see the whole plant, leaves and all, to pass judgement. The colors are Chrysosplenium-esque, so I'm rather drawn to it. :D
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Mark - I guess it is actually Primula 'Francisca' and possibly erroneously as 'Francesca'. Named after the great BC plantswoman Francisca Darts. I am surprised you like it Lesley!
Mark the leaves are quite unremarkable and perhaps that's why a nurseryman threw it on the compost heap, Francisca rescued it.
johnw
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A couple of things catching my attention in the garden this weekend.
Dactylorhiza grandis ex Sissinghurst
Eucomis 'Sparkling Burgundy'
Epipactis gigantea
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Here is the second and last batch of my June photos:
Androsace bulleyana
Aster natalensis (syn. Felicia rosulata)
Convolvulus cantabricus
Dianthus pavonius
Heteropappus goulimyi
Incarvillea delavayi Alba
Meconopsis paniculata
Saponaria pulvinaris
Sedum pilosum
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john--great colour on the eucomis!
zdenek--lots of treats--really nice red androsace!
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Zdenek, I'm very pleased to see your plant of Saponaria pulvinaris as it was lumped together on the SRGC and AGS seed lists this year with pumilio, as if they were the same thing, and I knew they were not. I wanted to apply for pulvinaris which I used to have in a trough, but didn't, in case I got pumilio, which I had donated. Really nice to see the real thing.
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Yes, I DO like the P. 'Francisa Dart' perhaps due to the colour as much as anything else. I like green flowers. I wonder if she would cross with this below, to produce a race of greenery-yallery seedlings (especially as I see FD is pin-eyed and mine is thrum-eyed). This is in NZ (erroneously), as P. rockii. Originally it was distributed as P. "wockii" and I can find no reference for that plant but it is obviously Section Vernales while rockii is Bullatae. Someone has compared the names, and since rockii is yellow, has thought "oh yes, it must be rockii." But it isn't. This plant flowers with all the others from Vernales and will cross readily with yellow polyanthus. The seedlings are very fragrant, tend toward the polys in flower but have the crinkly foliage.
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to produce a race of greenery-yallery seedlings (especially as I see FD is pin-eyed and mine is thrum-eyed). This is in NZ (erroneously), as P. rockii. Originally it was distributed as P. "wockii"
Lesley
Send on the pollen and I will do the dirty work.
johnw
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I'll try but it isn't in flower yet, maybe Aug/Sept. Better if mine flowered before yours as I could store the pollen.
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Another Roscoea in flower now.
Roscoea cautleyoides Kew Beauty
I do appear to have a lot of different yellow ones. ???
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A new Philadelphus that was bred here in Canada, 'Starbright'. Two years ago it was virtually unattainable, today it's at the super-markets.
A nice delavayi hybrid with an attractive dark calyx, the new growth is purplish as well.
johnw
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Oh! That is lovely ..... I'm a pushover for a dark calyx......
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And superbly scented? :D
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And superbly scented? :D
I say no but everyone else says yes. To me it doesn't quite match the old-fashioned coronarius. The smelling salts may have comprmised my nasal functions.
johnw
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Another Roscoea in flower now.
Roscoea cautleyoides Kew Beauty
I do appear to have a lot of different yellow ones. ???
fred while there all flowering for you why don't you do somes crosses you might get some as good as R.inkling,or you could donate the seed to me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Or any number of others here too I would imagine. Roscoeas are VERY cool..... and VERY dormant here right at the moment, so it is very nice to see them. 8)
Thanks.
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fred while there all flowering for you why don't you do somes crosses you might get some as good as R.inkling,or you could donate the seed to me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They've mostly been yellow up to now Dave and with staggered fowering.
The only non-yellow so far was Roscoea humeana "Rosemoor Plum"
I'm still waiting for the main blues/purples to bloom.
Then of course there's the pigeons.
They took the seed last year as you know. :-X
This morning one sneaked into the kitchen while I was upstairs, helped itself to the cat's Iams.
Calmly padded out when I came back down. ::)
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I meant to ask: Does anyone grow Philadelphus delavayi itself? Some sites say P. delavayi is very hardy but I somehow doubt that. We have a standing joke that nothing with the species name delavayi will grow here, too tender.
Another point, the leaves on the new growth of P. 'Starbright' is purple but leaves on stems ending in flower buds are green. I am wondering if the same is true of P. delavayi.
johnw
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Hi John,
Another delavayi ;D
Do you want to see a picture of how big my Philadelphus delavayi is?
Graham
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My seed raised Ferrula communis ssp glauca has surprised me by not only surviving the last winter completely unscathed but has decided to flower this year. I think it is monocarpic so I'll need to start again. There were two seedlings planted together and both are in flower with loads of bees & hoverflies buzzing around them. I grew it as a bit of a laugh really and it does tend to tower over its neighbours but I'll be sad when it is gone. It grows with some other mediterraneans to make it feel at home (Phlomis fruticosa, also seed raised, and Cistus 'Jessamy Beauty'). The second picture has my other half for scale - Susan is 1.75 metres tall which makes the ferula about 3.5 metres.
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Darren amazing flower 8), worth the wait.
Nice to see a picture of Susan.. Hi Susan looking forward to see and hear more from you on the forum ;).
Angie :)
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darren, fantastic, looks like an agave flower stem 8)
cheers
chris
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Hi John,
Another delavayi ;D
Do you want to see a picture of how big my Philadelphus delavayi is?
Graham
Graham
I'm seated, fire away.
johnw
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My seed raised Ferrula communis ssp glauca has surprised me by not only surviving the last winter completely unscathed but has decided to flower this year. I think it is monocarpic so I'll need to start again. There were two seedlings planted together and both are in flower with loads of bees & hoverflies buzzing around them. I grew it as a bit of a laugh really and it does tend to tower over its neighbours but I'll be sad when it is gone. It grows with some other mediterraneans to make it feel at home (Phlomis fruticosa, also seed raised, and Cistus 'Jessamy Beauty'). The second picture has my other half for scale - Susan is 1.75 metres tall which makes the ferula about 3.5 metres.
nice! i like your stony garden, and that's a cool inflorescence, i know nothing about this genus..
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I missed a lot of interesting plants shown here while being in Prague. Now back to the garden to find this clump of Clematis integrifolia in full bloom (1)
2. Delphinium brunonianum grown from SRGS seed
3. Gladiolus palustris
4. Edrianthus dalmaticus (SRGS seed)
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Sorry, this picture is a bit better
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Hi Angie,
I think Susan has plans to make more appearances on the forum, though not perhaps in picture form!
Cohan,
Ferula is the giant fennel of the mediterranean and is a classic feature of the landscape in Crete during the spring. This year the Cretan plants were quite short & stocky, probably due to a dry season. Our garden is stony and all the stone was dug from the soil too - none of it was imported. I might post more pics later.
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Hi John,
Another delavayi ;D
Do you want to see a picture of how big my Philadelphus delavayi is?
Graham
Hi John,
You can rest easy. I was only joking I don't have a Philadelphus delavayi. ;)
Graham
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A couple of things pleasing me this week:
1) Roscoea Jeoffrey Thomas
2) A white Dactylorhiza that my brother found in one of his fields (and rescued before the cattle were let in).
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Wow, John. Thats a cracker of a white!! 8)
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Thanks Paul. I was gobsmacked when my brother gave it to me in 2008 - this is its first flower in my garden.
A couple more hardy orchids that are looking pretty today.
1) Bletilla ochracea
2) Bletilla 'Penway Imperial x ochracea'
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Excellent Bletillas. Other than various striata forms I don't think any of the other Bletillas are here in Aus, or I have never seen them mentioned anywhere anyway. Some of the pics that have been posted on these forums over the years are absolutely smashing!! I do like the colouration of your last one in particular. Thanks for posting.
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John i agree with Paul the Dactylorhiza is a belter,is the foliage unspotted ?
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...Dactylorhiza is a belter,is the foliage unspotted ?
Pure green.
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John that is really nice,I have never seen any colour variation in the wild.
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Very nice orchids John.
That white really is a white. 8)
This is new to me this year.
Eucomis "Octopussy"
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degree. So in my opinion it it a hardy plant.
I meant to ask: Does anyone grow Philadelphus delavayi itself? Some sites say P. delavayi is very hardy but I somehow doubt that. We have a standing joke that nothing with the species name delavayi will grow here, too tender.
Another point, the leaves on the new growth of P. 'Starbright' is purple but leaves on stems ending in flower buds are green. I am wondering if the same is true of P. delavayi.
johnw
John,
I grow P. delavayi var. calvescens (=P. purpurascens (Koehne) Rehd. ( = P. delavayi var. clavescens Rehd.). Plants are from Yunnan. The new growth of the stems is purple, the leaves are not so intensive in the colour. The sepals are dark red. I get two plants from a friend in 2003. One of them I grow in my mothers garden. These plant survived minus -25 degree. So in my opinion it is a hary plant.
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John,
I grow P. delavayi var. calvescens (=P. purpurascens (Koehne) Rehd. ( = P. delavayi var. clavescens Rehd.). Plants are from Yunnan. The new growth of the stems is purple, the leaves are not so intensive in the colour. The sepals are dark red. I get two plants from a friend in 2003. One of them I grow in my mothers garden. These plant survived minus -25 degree. So in my opinion it is a hary plant.
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Uli - Very interesting. I have tried to find out where and what altitude P. delavayi was collected but have not been able to find out anything other than this from the Flora of China - "Mixed forests, thickets, mountain slopes; 700-3800 m. Sichuan, Xizang, Yunnan [Myanmar]".
Well that makes 2 delavayis we can / could grow. Now if only Omphalogramma delavayi! :o
johnw
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I grow Philadelphus purpurascens which has a purple calyx which fits the description in Hillier and is in fact a cutting from the plant illustrated in Phillips and Rix 'Shrubs'. Hillier gives P. delavayi var calvescens as a separate species. I am supposedly growing this as well but it does not fit the description.
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The Bletillas are very nice indeed, a lovely change from the harsh magenta forms. And the white Dactylorhiza is also special. Clean foliage John? Unlike, apparently, 'Eskimo Nell' whose foliage seems, by all accounts to be virused. Keep this lovely lady remote from others and DON'T GO NAMING HER, and putting the finger of death or disease on her. :)
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I'd certainly keep the gloriously virginal dactylorhiza away from as many pests as possible!
I'm rather doubtful about all Eskimo Nell's being sickly, though..... see further note here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5295.msg157412#msg157412
It's good to know there are other white beauties around as well, though
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hi all, dry limestone area here in southwestern germany, rheinland pfalz...field trip from yesterday...
centaurea with briza media...
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild004-82.jpg?t=1277387738)
lotus corniculatus
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild003-83.jpg?t=1277387822)
last gentiana lutea flower
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild002-67.jpg?t=1277387865)
gentiana lutea plants...
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild005-80.jpg?t=1277387923)
dianthus carthusianorum
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild017-24.jpg?t=1277387982)
campanula glomerata
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild020-15.jpg?t=1277388071)
salvia pratensis
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild021-13.jpg?t=1277388121)
Anthericum ramosum
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild028-4.jpg?t=1277388306)
Allium sphaerocephan
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/th_Bild038-3.jpg?t=1277388434)
Zygaena filipendulae
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild019-21.jpg?t=1277388670)
some piture from the limestones...
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild035-4.jpg?t=1277388808)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild032-5.jpg?t=1277388787)
cherrs
chris
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hi all, dry limestone area here in southwestern germany, rheinland pfalz...field trip from yesterday...
cherrs
chris
nice place! i like the centaurea..
i'm hoping for a fieldtrip into the mountains on saturday, depending on the weather..not sure how advanced things are high up..
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cohan, i wish you the best weather and good luck....here at the weekend sunny, and over 30° c...
cheers
chris
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I'd certainly keep the gloriously virginal dactylorhiza away from as many pests as possible!
I'm rather doubtful about all Eskimo Nell's being sickly, though..... see further note here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5295.msg157412#msg157412
It's good to know there are other white beauties around as well, though
Way back in 1993 when I visited David Sampson in the south of England, he had many whites among the coloured forms and I don't recall that they were named at all, except just as 'alba.' Don't recall any virus either though I probably wasn't as concious of it then.
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cohan, i wish you the best weather and good luck....here at the weekend sunny, and over 30° c...
cheers
chris
thanks, the forecast now says mix of sun and cloud with high of 20C down here, 18- 24C for several places in the mountains..
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cohan, looks good...for a field trip....
good luck, and many pictures ::)
cheers
chris
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It seems odd this almost white cultivar of Acer palmatum 'Ukigumo' at a friend's should be one of the toughest and so sun tolerant.
johnw
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Acer palmatum 'Koto No Ito' is mis-behaving this year. Note the leaf shape compared to what is normal - the leaf on the deck. Anyone care to tell me why?
johnw
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The Mt. Laurels are starting, rather early for here. The whitish one I grew from seed back in the 1970's, it took years to settle in and make roots, it consistently winter-burned for the first 10 years but has never since - not even in our record cold winter. The other is a true red, as red as any rose but difficult to capture, opening pink within.
johnw
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Acer palmatum 'Ukigumo' - I would have expected that plant to be utterly burned and/or dessicated by sun and wind... perhaps the site is quite sheltered from the wind but it seems open enough to the sun? Very odd!
Acer palmatum 'Koto No Ito' - one would almost think ithis was a reversion to a graft stock ???
Those Kalmias are scrumptious....the shape of the buds is out of this world.... so decorative in themselves.
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One of the best trees to plant, Cornus kousa. The bark on this one, unlike others, has not developed the Stewartia like bark. Growing in a hostile spot in an otherwise desolate industrial park, a lone soul.
johnw
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"billowing" bracts on the Cornus.... what a treat of a tree to brighten an industrial site.
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Acer palmatum 'Ukigumo' - I would have expected that plant to be utterly burned and/or dessicated by sun and wind... perhaps the site is quite sheltered from the wind but it seems open enough to the sun? Very odd!
Acer palmatum 'Koto No Ito' - one would almost think ithis was a reversion to a graft stock ???
Yes Maggi, one would expect Ukigumo to incinerate. Yet through drought, sun, heat (well as much as we get - earlier in the week it barely hit 13c but today is 25 and we need rain) - and cold it goes without care. Also it is a very manageable size, note the narrow habit. Maybe the BOD would give you space - ??? Also a bit of pink splashed around on the leaves.
No, nothing from below the graft, last year in the cloud, wet and coolness it was almost completely narrow-leafed with a few stray larger leaves. This year it appears as if the first flush was mainly narrow and then continued on wide. Here's a poor shot from the lower interior.
johnw
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Local Aberdeen SRGC Members Rosemary and John Lupton have just returned from a wee break up in Shetland..... it seems that they had little trouble in locating the wildflowers..... how's this for a carpet of Spring Squills? The Scilla are covering the whole area, as far as the eye can see!
Thanks to Rosemary for sending through her photo.... though it is about time the pair of them came out of the undergrowth and into the Forum light!! ;D ;)
As ever: click on the photo to enlarge it....
Scilla verna in Shetland
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Maybe the BD would give you space - Huh Also a bit of pink splashed around on the leaves.
While I am intrigued to see such a plant doing so well, I must confes that I cannot get enthusiatic about it... or the negundo 'Flamingo' types.... altogether too tarty for my liking :-X :P
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Spring Squills..........................wow :)
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Spring Squills..........................wow :)
I agree... what could be nicer than a holiday with " thrills of squills" ? :o 8) ;D ;D
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My little rock garden is looking pretty good at the moment, here's a shot showing Verbascum 'Letitia' and Campanula portenschlagiana at the rear and in front of them Gypsophila repens 'Dorothy Teacher'. All three are very good value and thrive with little attention or feeding.
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Wow, David,
Your verbascum is really doing well.
Paddy
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altogether too tarty for my liking :-X :P
I will try to restrain myself...
johnw
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After so much blue - mountain in China, spring squills and campanulas in Davids rock garden I'll start here with some more from my garden
1. - 3. Jovellana punctata - in a container, unfortunately not hardy
here
4. Calceolaria cana - planted in the garden but possibly also not hardy
5. + 6. Digitalis obscura - survived the last winter outside
7. Begonia sutherlandii
8. Oxalis valdiviensis
9. Rhodohypoxis deflexa
10. Eschscholzia californica
Gerd
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A new little Abies koreana called 'Silver Show' which looks like it may be a cracker.
Potentilla dickinsii in a trough where it self seeds. Reliabe yet some may consider it weedy.
Cyrtanthus brachyschyphus - 3-4 months of flower if held back, another month or so if watered freely in February.
Lastly Astroemeria pallida from JJA seed. Last autumn I repotted them in a lean gritty mix. This kept the plants looking reasonably compact, that was until they started to flower and now they are their floppy old selves again.
johnw
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altogether too tarty for my liking :-X :P
I will try to restrain myself...
johnw
I am most grateful for that! ;D
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By your lovely photos, Gerd, it seems that you have dry weather in your part of Germany at least.
The Digitalis obscura is charming... I love the colour.
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Cracking selections John and Gerd.
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I am most grateful for that! ;D
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"it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye."
Warning heeded.
johnw
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I am most grateful for that! ;D
"it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye."
Warning heeded.
johnw
[/quote] Dear John, we understand eachother perfectly, I see :D
How boring would it be if we all liked the same plants? Or, more to the point, how amazing would that be??!!!
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locating the wildflowers..... how's this for a carpet of Spring Squills? The Scilla are covering the whole area, as far as the eye can see!
Thanks to Rosemary for sending through her photo.... though it is about time the pair of them came out of the undergrowth and into the Forum light!! ;D ;)
Amazing... some more pictures please Rosemary and John... and i agree with Maggi it would be nice of you to come and join us here, sorry never got to say hi to you both at Ron's funeral today.
Angie :)
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I love the flower buds on those kalmia laurels. 8)
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Thank you, Maggi and David!
By your lovely photos, Gerd, it seems that you have dry weather in your part of Germany at least.
The Digitalis obscura is charming... I love the colour.
Maggi, After experienced the socalled 'Schafskälte' (cold period named after sheeps) fortunately we have a sunny and dry spell - enjoying it!
Gerd
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Spring Squills..........................wow :)
Are these Scilla verna? I have some plants, maybe 30 from seed collected in the Orneys by JH and through seedlist. The first flowers were this last spring. Maybe in 100 years, if I spread them around a bit..... ;D
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Spring Squills..........................wow :)
Are these Scilla verna? I have some plants, maybe 30 from seed collected in the Orkneys by JH and through seedlist. The first flowers were this last spring. Maybe in 100 years, if I spread them around a bit..... ;D
Yes, they are Scilla verna..... how pretty they are en masse - an eye opener for anyone who thinks the Northern Isles of the UK are barren !
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Aquilegia chaplinei, from wild collected seed (sic?) Eddy County, New Mexico
Dianthus charidemi, a Gabo de Gata (Almería, SE-Spain) endemic
Cistus crispus, From seed collected at Punta Carnero, Tarifa area (SW-Spain). Creeping habit (!) and growing close to the sea.
Thymus longiflorus, Andalucian endemic from Fernan Peres, Almería, SE-Spain
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Lovely selection Hans.
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Your Abies is certianly a smashing plant John. How tall will it grow? and I'm a bit surprised to see the Cyrtanthus flowering brilliantly. I'd thought your climate would maybe not be warm enough.
It may be noticed that I have put a signature under my avatar pic. This is because I have bought a new vacuum cleaner and feel obliged to use it. The old one I managed quite successfully to ignore. But I don't want to get over enthusiastic about it, hence the signature. It was told to me by the gardening friend of one of my market vendors, who is herself built along similar lines to Maggi and me, and who, with her husband, raises free range pigs. I had told Linda Maggi's "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....." line and where it came from. I always think (only privately) of Linda as Miss Piggy. She and I have on rare occasions come close to exchanging black eyes, but overall, we're on excellent terms. ;D
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It may be noticed that I have put a signature under my avatar pic. This is because I have bought a new vacuum cleaner and feel obliged to use it. The old one I managed quite successfully to ignore. BUt I don't want to get over enthusiastic about it, hence the signature.
What you need Lesley is a ride-on vacuum cleaner - then your husband would fight you to use it!
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I'd love to think so Gail, but he'd probably try it out on the grass! He has never yet been known to take an interest in any work indoors.
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Zdenek, I'm very pleased to see your plant of Saponaria pulvinaris as it was lumped together on the SRGC and AGS seed lists this year with pumilio, as if they were the same thing, and I knew they were not. I wanted to apply for pulvinaris which I used to have in a trough, but didn't, in case I got pumilio, which I had donated. Really nice to see the real thing.
Lesley, I reply to your notice too late, I am aware. Our country cottage and garden is about 50 km far from our flat and computer. I however live with my wife mostly at the cottage and hence my delay.
I understand the problem. The European Saponaria pumila is often mistakenly called S. pumilio. It is an error of us, growers. Saponaria pumilio however exists - it is an older name for Turkish S. pulvinaris. So that no wonder that there are some mistakes from such a mess.
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The eastern USA Zenobia pulverulenta is having a great season here; as is Stewartia and the various Cornus kousas.
Magnolia tripetala is nearly at the end; but a few stray flowers remain.
M. virginiana of course blooms on and off the entire season; seed pods already in evidence as well as more flowers in near bud to come along later.
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The eastern USA Zenobia pulverulenta is having a great season here; as is Stewartia and the various Cornus kousas.
Magnolia tripetala is nearly at the end; but a few stray flowers remain.
M. virginiana of course blooms on and off the entire season; seed pods already in evidence as well as more flowers in near bud to come along later.
Kristl, is your Magnolia virginiana heavenly scented? I visited the garden of George Newman in Bedford, New Hampshire, USA two weeks ago, and his M. virginiana tree had an intoxicating fragrance. George's specialty is native North American plants, particularly woodlanders, and has botanized extensively in northern Maine, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Gaspe, and NewFoundland. Back to a southern USA native, he had nice bushes of Zenovia pulverulenta in good glaucous-leaf forms. I had a seed grown plant, which unfortunately was green leaved and lacked any of the beautiful glaucousness; it finally expired this winter; not sad to see it go, a good excuse to get a better glaucous-leaf form... the flowers are exquisite.
My Stewartia pseudocamellia flowered heavily a full 3 weeks earlier than normal... still some flowers left and opening daily.
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Kristl, is your Magnolia virginiana heavenly scented? I visited the garden of George Newman in Bedford, New Hampshire, USA two weeks ago, and his M. virginiana tree had an intoxicating fragrance....
Back to a southern USA native, he had nice bushes of Zenovia pulverulenta in good glaucous-leaf forms. I had a seed grown plant, which unfortunately was green leaved and lacked any of the beautiful glaucousness; it finally expired this winter; not sad to see it go, a good excuse to get a better glaucous-leaf form... the flowers are exquisite.
Yes....almost too heavenly scented. I am beginning to have difficulties with floral fragrances for some odd reason. The Zenobia fragrance doesn't affect me as much---my plant is quite gray, even in the light shade where it is growing. Hoping the good bloom will translate into plenty of good seed.
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Thank you Zdenek for your notes. Perhaps you could confirm for me then, that I should be calling the plant below, Saponaria pumila? I had thought that pumila was used by people who didn't realize that the correct name was pumilio! Seems I was quite wrong about this.
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This means that what I have distributed as S. pumilio was actually S. pumila and those expecting to get pulvinaris, will have received pumila instead. Oh dear. :( ::)
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Photographed this at a friend's garden, Forsythia viridissima var. koreana 'Kumson'. The new growth is strikingly variegated with yellow veining. She originally bought the plant simply as F. koreana, but it seems to be identical to the popular named variety. After several years, suddenly the plant is starting to act like a Forsythia with lots of new shoots 5-6' long (2 meters). But even as remarkable as the variegation is, step back a few yards from the shrub, and it is hard to tell that it is a variegated shrub, this one is for close-up viewing.
Photos on the web, and some nursery descriptions, sometimes highlight the white or silver veining, yet clearly in the plant I photographed the veining is yellow. Are there more than one cultivar at play here? Is there a yellow variegated one, AND a white variegated form?
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Lavender border
Magnolia grandiflora 'Kay Paris' (the black things are pollen beetles).
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Now it's a campanula time
1.A double Campanula persicifolia
2. Delphinium likiangense
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As the end of the month is in sight I thought I would add a selection of what has been flowering during the month. Starting early June and working through to today
Graham
1st group
Penstemon procerus var. brachyanthus
Iris sibirica 'Silver Edge'
Meconopsis - bought as M. grandis GS600 but I now doubt it.
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2nd group
Graham
A bank of geraniums - G.pratense and an unknown blue.
Dianthus 'Whatfield Magenta'
Rhodohypoxis
Asteranthera ovata
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3rd Group
Graham
Alstromeria
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4th set
Meconopsis villosa or is that Cathcartia villosa?
Osteospermum 'Irish' - new this year
Oxalis 'Gwen McBride'
Cardiocrinum giganteum 'Yunnanensis'
Cardiocrinum giganteum
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Your garden is looking really good, Graham.... I love the colour combo of the red alstromeria and the purple acer.
And isn't 'Whatfield Magenta' doing well? I love that hot colour and well flowered clumps.
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Your garden is looking really good, Graham.... I love the colour combo of the red alstromeria and the purple acer.
And isn't 'Whatfield Magenta' doing well? I love that hot colour and well flowered clumps.
Thanks Maggi :)
The Dianthus has taken several years to get to this point. Splitting and planting and waiting to split and plant again.
Graham
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Looks a smashing rock garden Graham. Would it be possible to get a shot of it all?
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Looks a smashing rock garden Graham. Would it be possible to get a shot of it all?
Thanks David,
I shall do that for you tomorrow.
Graham
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I nearly forgot to add the last one for this month.
Dactylorhiza -(possibly majalis) and Allium unifolium
Graham
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Another nice combo there, Graham.
Have you not taken cuttings to increase the Dianthus? Easier than waiting to split?
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Another nice combo there, Graham.
Have you not taken cuttings to increase the Dianthus? Easier than waiting to split?
No I haven't. I hadn't thought of that for the Whatfield. I do for the one I showed in the plant identification thread.
Perhaps I will give that a try.
Thanks
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'Whatfield wisp' and most others are very easy from cuttings. Wish we had the magenta version here. It's a stunner!
Do you find the Asteranthera quite hardy Graham? Seems yours is out in the garden in Edinburgh! 8)
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You seem to have a very nice garden indeed Graham !
I for one will be looking forward for the general views that David asked for !
The "stairway to heaven" with the Whatfield magenta looks really stunning !
Many congrats on a "job" well done ! ;)
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i love this cute little New Zealand plant Arthropodium candidum
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Very nice, Davey.... a bulb that wants to be a grass or a grass that wants to be a bulb?! ;)
In the Lily family, I think.... cute indeed.... the flowers bear close inspection.
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Very nice, Davey.... a bulb that wants to be a grass or a grass that wants to be a bulb?! ;)
In the Lily family, I think.... cute indeed.... the flowers bear close inspection.
Used to be in the Lily family (in the olden days ;D )
Until very recently it was in Anthericaceae, but now it's in Asparagaceae ::)
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Very nice, Davey.... a bulb that wants to be a grass or a grass that wants to be a bulb?! ;)
In the Lily family, I think.... cute indeed.... the flowers bear close inspection.
Used to be in the Lily family (in the olden days ;D )
Until very recently it was in Anthericaceae, but now it's in Asparagaceae ::)
Flippin' 'eck!
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Botanists....... :-X
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Flowering - only 3' high - and soil pH 8.
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Seems the Museum of New Zealand is as behind the times as I am....
http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/ObjectDetails.aspx?oid=717082
Oh well........
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Giles, that is lovely... a magnolia?
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It's another Magnolia x wieseneri.
It should open out flat, but with rain, perhaps, tomorrow, I thought I'd take the photograph now.
It's fantastically fragrant.
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For David and Luc and everyone else.
My rock garden is ‘work in progress’. I looked at it a couple of years ago and thought it looked like a patchwork quilt of miscellaneous plants dotted amongst the rocks. So I began to reduce the number of varieties and bulk up the ones I wanted to increase.
The good soil was only a few inches deep and it was then heavy almost clay. I began to dig out to a spades depth and then break up a little further down with pea size gravel and then filled up with JI2 and grit sand. The top coat is pea gravel.
I have just about finished the soil replacement. There are still some gaps in the planting to be filled as I decide what to do next.
Much of the area is now well drained and suitable for rock and alpine plants. The lower east area remains quite damp all year, (there must be a spring somewhere close or run off from the hill beyond the garden), so I incorporated more ericaceous compost and plants to suit.
The photos:
Because it was difficult to photograph the whole garden well I have taken some general views in this first selection, and the second selection is of areas starting at the west of the garden and moves eastwards.
There is generally something in flower from early spring up until July but not much after that.
I hope I haven’t over done this simple request for a view of the Rock Garden
Graham
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Second selection
Graham
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Graham your garden is so lovely and the last picture is wonderful... you certainly haven't over done the rockery pictures, its always a pleasure looking at your garden and seeing what you are growing. Keep them coming.
Angie :)
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Exquisite Graham, I envy you your eye for design, and your space!
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A super rock garden indeed, with the plants happily nestled against the rocks. I thought there was sand laid on some of the paths but it seems to be a Raoulia?
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'Whatfield wisp' and most others are very easy from cuttings. Wish we had the magenta version here. It's a stunner!
Do you find the Asteranthera quite hardy Graham? Seems yours is out in the garden in Edinburgh! 8)
Hi Lesley,
I can send you some seed of Whatfield Magenta if you wish. I don't know how well it sets seed as I usually prune all the flower heads off as soon as they have finished.
The Asteranthera has been outside for many years. We had a really harsh winter this year with weeks of frozen snow and as you can see it has survived really well. Probably its best flowering season. It grows on a rotting tree trunk and has travelled along the trunk from one end to the other. It appears to be dying back as it moves along the trunk. I suppose it is utilising the nutrients and when they are gone it is unable to flourish.
Graham
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The little Arthropodium can indeed be cute, and airy and endearing but it can also be weedy, seeding freely into paths and round about. Actually it would really love the gravel flats of Graham's garden. ::)
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Thanks for the compliment Angie.
And likewise to you David. My garden is smaller than it looks in the photo. Some of the boundaries are hidden so some of what you see is beyond the garden.
A super rock garden indeed, with the plants happily nestled against the rocks. I thought there was sand laid on some of the paths but it seems to be a Raoulia?
Thanks Lesley.
It is Raoulia australis. My mountain stream - well thats how I like to see it - perhaps stetching the imagination a little. It took a bit of a beating this winter but is recovering.
Graham
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I'll PM you Graham. I have 2 plants of the Asteranthera and have kept them undercover for their life with me (from cuttings, 2005 or 6 I think) so I'll put one outside in the spring. I have several logs which would be suitable as well as, perhaps, what we call pongas or pungas, which are the cut stems of tree ferms and they too rot away quite quickly. I know they are useful for Philesia magellanica.
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For David and Luc and everyone else.
My rock garden is ‘work in progress’. I looked at it a couple of years ago and thought it looked like a patchwork quilt of miscellaneous plants dotted amongst the rocks. So I began to reduce the number of varieties and bulk up the ones I wanted to increase.
Graham
nice work, graham! i guess you are dealing with the distinction between garden as collection of plants, and garden as an aesthetic expression! both perfectly valid, and i suppose most of us aim for a bit of both, but must all find our own balance, once we acknowledge the difference :)
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For David and Luc and everyone else.
My rock garden is ‘work in progress’. I looked at it a couple of years ago and thought it looked like a patchwork quilt of miscellaneous plants dotted amongst the rocks. So I began to reduce the number of varieties and bulk up the ones I wanted to increase.
Quite a different approach from what most of us tend to do Graham - but it does look super !!
I recognise your giant Raoulia from the AGS photo competition 2009... it caught my eye then and it does now !! 8) Brilliant.
Thanks very much for taking the time to show us all this ! :D
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Thank you Zdenek for your notes. Perhaps you could confirm for me then, that I should be calling the plant below, Saponaria pumila? I had thought that pumila was used by people who didn't realize that the correct name was pumilio! Seems I was quite wrong about this.
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This means that what I have distributed as S. pumilio was actually S. pumila and those expecting to get pulvinaris, will have received pumila instead. Oh dear. :( ::)
Hello Lesley, your plant is really Saponaria pumila. You are correct.
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Conophytum bolusiae ssp. bolusiae, field collected clone (LAV 27907), Augrabies, S-Africa. One of the earliest flowering Conophytums. Some vegetatatively propagated plants have been in culture for fifty years or more. The type specimen of C. ricardianum is still available in culture (the "clonotype")
Petrorhagia prolifera, from seed wild collected at Erdeven, Brittany, France. Small but beautiful. now extinct in Holland. Once occurring in open, dry and sandy areas along our great rivers >:(
Two better pictures of Thymus longiflorus. Easy and floriferous in an frost free pot.
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It didn't rain today....
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For David and Luc and everyone else.
My rock garden is ‘work in progress’. I looked at it a couple of years ago and thought it looked like a patchwork quilt of miscellaneous plants dotted amongst the rocks. So I began to reduce the number of varieties and bulk up the ones I wanted to increase.
Quite a different approach from what most of us tend to do Graham - but it does look super !!
I recognise your giant Raoulia from the AGS photo competition 2009... it caught my eye then and it does now !! 8) Brilliant.
Thanks very much for taking the time to show us all this ! :D
Many thanks Luc
Yes you are correct the Raoulia was in the AGS on line show. Beaten quite rightly by your very impressive Arenaria granatensis tetraquetra. ;)
I remember seeing it again in this thread a few weeks ago.
Graham
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hello hans, Petrorhagia prolifera is here by me in sothwestern germany wild on dry places...
cheers
chris
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Dear Luc and Luit,
Would you please note (see above) that what you received from me as Saponaria pumilio, is actually S. pumila. S. pumilio (further above) is an old (invalid?) name for S. pulvinaris, which I don't have now. ???
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Thymus longiflorus looks exciting. :)
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hello hans, Petrorhagia prolifera is here by me in sothwestern germany wild on dry places...
cheers
chris
I'm not surprised it does. It even may be common going southward, like in France and where you're living. In Holland it reached its northernmost boundary. As I said, the species rich grasslands where it grew are now threatened here.
cheers, Hans
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Dear Luc and Luit,
Would you please note (see above) that what you received from me as Saponaria pumilio, is actually S. pumila. S. pumilio (further above) is an old (invalid?) name for S. pulvinaris, which I don't have now. ???
Duly noted Lesley ! :D
Many thanks Luc
Yes you are correct the Raoulia was in the AGS on line show. Beaten quite rightly by your very impressive Arenaria granatensis tetraquetra. ;)
I remember seeing it again in this thread a few weeks ago.
Graham
Your memory is as good as your rock garden Graham ! ;)
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Dear Luc and Luit,
Would you please note (see above) that what you received from me as Saponaria pumilio, is actually S. pumila. S. pumilio (further above) is an old (invalid?) name for S. pulvinaris, which I don't have now. ???
Lesley I did not know that S. pumilio is now S. pumila and I think that after naming it S. pumilio sooooo many years I will have problems to call it S. pumila whenI see it.
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I will too Luit, but I'm determined to try as I don't want to mix it with S. pulvinaris. It seems that S. pumilio is not the right name for anything at all now. ???