Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: arisaema on May 23, 2010, 02:55:34 PM
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Both Chinese, the former I've had for years, the latter came masquerading as a Polygonatum this spring ::)
ETA: The latter is perhaps Paris polyphylla v. chinensis?
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Can't help with names but the second one is VERY nice. :)
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Hi,
I'm almost certain that the first Paris (the one with the short reflexed petals) is P. polyphylla var chinensis and the other one is P. lancifolia.
Robin
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hi any ideas on this one?its about 2 and a quarter feet tall ..purchased via chen yi as paris conquistii.
{not sure of spelling there}the undersides of the leaves have purple blotches.
very good whatever it is.
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sorry posted same pic twice..will get the hang of it soon!!!
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thankyou maggi not very good with computers...what would we do without you.x
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This is indeed Paris cronquistii,an attractive evergreen species with purple markings on the backside of the leaves and a number of stamens three or four times the number of petals.
Robin
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"I love Paris in the springtime,
I love Paris in the fall....."
Sorry, it's ridiculous the effect of a weight off one's shoulders. ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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i noticed my paris chinensis is sprouting today.{planted last year in srring from crug}
i am a little worried its very early ...?do i put a cloche over it.not alot else is moving here .even snowdrops only just getting going.
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You're in Cheshire, aren't you ?
There may yet be some nasty weather to come, I see why you are anxious.
I'd put a barn cloche over it.... open sides to the least windy direction... that would give it overhead cover but allow air movement. Not likely to do do much harm unless you get really warm days that force the growth under the cover.... so, to be really safe I'd have the cover off during good days and only on in the night time.
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i noticed my paris chinensis is sprouting today.{planted last year in srring from crug}
i am a little worried its very early ...?do i put a cloche over it.not alot else is moving here .even snowdrops only just getting going.
No, I don't think they are early, the Taiwanese plants are early risers. I have plants from the same areas as the ones that Crûg sell and mine are coming up too, one I have in the greenhouse is nearly flowering. So no, they are not early for the Taiwanese plants, but yes, they are early for the time of year if you are expecting similar behavior as the Chinese Paris. I am struggling with the same dilemma because that means it is more a pot subject than one for the garden.
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thanks maggi i will rig something up just to be safe.it was a fairly tall thing last year so cant wait to see how it performs this year.pascal i was looking for some collection data on the label but there is nothing...
i have chen yi sp305 in a pot which i think is tender .thats about 12inches tall at moment.i only got the rhizome in december and the growing point was dented so its a little deformed but at least its photosynthesising!!!there is a flower bud but not sure its going to develop.when i saw the pic on her website i nearly fell off my chair.
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thanks maggi i will rig something up just to be safe.it was a fairly tall thing last year so cant wait to see how it performs this year.pascal i was looking for some collection data on the label but there is nothing...
i have chen yi sp305 in a pot which i think is tender .thats about 12inches tall at moment.i only got the rhizome in december and the growing point was dented so its a little deformed but at least its photosynthesising!!!there is a flower bud but not sure its going to develop.when i saw the pic on her website i nearly fell off my chair.
I don't know the exact location sites Crûg has collected their stock from but I know pretty much where it grows in Taiwan and where they could have collected it, the BSWJ number should reveal if it is from Taiwan or not. They list 2 collected by themselves (with BSWJ-numbers) and 1 not. I have seen it grow at various locations between 1000 meter and 2000 meter altitude where it gets to 1 meter tall when fully mature. I was surprised too how early they came up here at my place as they were in fruit with yellowing leaves back in early October.
S-305 is the hugely expensive 2 meter+ tall one from the border with N Vietnam right? Would be a shame if that is not hardy, such a big plant you would like to have in a border, not in a pot...(a big pot that is with rhizomes weighing upto a kilo).
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sadly its the one with no bswj number...
yes thats the one the expensive giant one..i potted it in a largeish pot .but not to big i was scared of it rotting.if it comes to anything i will take a picture.ive had a few paris over the years from chen yi.
which have all mostly done ok..where are you located pascal? you will have to post some pics of them.
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sadly its the one with no bswj number...
yes thats the one the expensive giant one..i potted it in a largeish pot .but not to big i was scared of it rotting.if it comes to anything i will take a picture.ive had a few paris over the years from chen yi.
which have all mostly done ok..where are you located pascal? you will have to post some pics of them.
Mmm, I assumed it was one of their Taiwan collections, sorry, then you have to ask Crûg if it is a Chinese mainland clone. Here is a picture of the Taiwanese form in situ as well as a picture of the second Taiwan species. After seeing these pictures Li Heng stated both species on Taiwan are varieties of P. polyphylla but I don't believe that is correct. Not only do I not believe in a species that is split into 9 varieties, both Taiwan taxa occur side by side, are morphologically very distinct and do not hybridise.
Paris chinensis Taiwan.jpg
Paris bockiana Taiwan.jpg
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both amazing..bockiana is one to get from crug this year..
thankyou for posting pics'and i will do the same when there in flower.
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well this is the paris chen yi species 305{hopefully}it should grow to 7 feet...i got the very large rhizome in december with its dinted shoot..thats the reason its distorted and the leaves not developed properley.also its only about 14 inch tall .but for a paris to emerge within 2 months of planting am quite happy.i have it on a cool windowsill. the flowre has a violet ovary .so anyone recognise it?is it right?.
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further pics of paris chen yi sp 305
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and another
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I'm sorry I haven't had time to resize the photos in the last posts here of manicbotanic.... but they are a bit on the large size.... recommended Forum size is 760 pixels wide.
Manicbotanic pix now rezsized
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Maggi,
Here's two of the pics by ManicBotanic, resized down to size, sharpened slightly, and rotated where necessary!! 8)
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Maggi,
Here's two of the pics by ManicBotanic, resized down to size, sharpened slightly, and rotated where necessary!! 8)
Paul, I am VERY grateful. ;D 8)
Manicbotanic (Sean) tells me he is just getting to grips with resizing.... something that many find tricky... had a friend here only yesterday to ask about the same thing!
Will be sending Sean the pdf that a pal of Kentgardener prepared about picture preparation for our sort of 'thing'..... :D