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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Hans A. on March 30, 2010, 12:05:06 PM
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Two colour forms of Iris suaveolens
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Lovely Hans, about 3/4 weeks ahead of mine. Can't think why ;D
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Lovely Hans, about 3/4 weeks ahead of mine. Can't think why ;D
Couldn't have said it any better David ! ;D ;D
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Hans, the 2nd colour form of suaveolens is very attractive!
Flowering here;
Iris attica - 3 year old clump
Iris pumila 'Kraciv Greben'
Iris pumila 'Kraciv Greben 2'
Iris pumila 'Poboinik'
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Chris,
that attica clump is simply awesome! The others are nothin' to sniff at either. Say yes to me!
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Chris,
that attica clump is simply awesome! The others are nothin' to sniff at either. Say yes to me!
Couldn't agree more !!
The attica clump would surely make a first on any of the AGS or SRGC shows !! :o :o
All forms of reichenbachii are very attractive too !
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Cheers Jamie and Luc,
I love these miniature bearded iris types, plus they go to flowering size very very quickly!
A few more flowering today;
Iris suaveolens hort.
Iris suaveolens 'Izgoreno Kadife'
Iris suaveolens 'Tumen Prakh'
Iris pumila 'Julta Radost'
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More beauties Chris !
I've got some (younger) plants flowering as well :
1 and 2 : Iris taurica
3 and 4 : Iris suaveolens
Too bad the flowers only last a couple of days... :'( (if you're lucky... ;) )
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Lovely Irises Chris and Luc. Just a point Luc, I. taurica is a synonym of I. pumila. Chris, I don't think I have seen named forms of I. reichenbachii and I. suaveolens before, do you think the forms deserved to be named? I thought I. reichenbachii 'Poboinik' was very different but the others, beautiful as they were, looked to be within an acceptable difference to the type.
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While knowing nothing of the middle European languages, I'm thinking the names attached may be geographical areas Chris? They are all little gems, no doubt of that.
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Super Iris species & hybrids with attractive color forms from Hans, Chris and Luc! :o 8)
That clump of I. attica is showy ;D
I have a blue form of I. pumila since 2 years - but no signs of flower buds yet :-\
It is sitting in a sunny position in the raised bed. It is slow in growing but looks very healthy.
Does I. pumila need a special treatment to set flowers?
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Little beauties Luc!
For reichenbachii read pumila!
David, I have quite a few reichenbachii and suaveolens which are different to each other, my own material. The naming helps me distinguish them. All have differences in shade, markings etc. Eg. 'Kraciv Greben' is lighter than 'Kraciv Greben 2' and does not have a darker mark to the lip. ( Kraciv Greben = Beautiful Comb ) Some differences are minor, some are major, 'Poboinik' ( Poboinik = Bruiser ) is a cross between very pale yellow and purple reichenbachii, effectively just a natural variation. What exactly do 'Type' and 'acceptable difference' look like in this context? I use the naming to distinguish a particular cultivar from which I will vegetatively propogate and make crosses ( I could use numbers, not as pretty though ).
'Do they deserve to be named'.....I guess that's a perosnal opinion,I would say yes, but then I have a thing about these species and look for both major nd minor differences, you may well ask how many Galanthus forms deserve to be named.................................... ;) ;)
Lesley, names are derrived from features, 'Julta Radost' = Yellow Joy, 'Tumen Prakh'= Dark Dust
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Armin,
I've done nothing special to my I. pumila, other than they are in a pan and not in the garden. They like a hot dry Summer and well drained soil, but otherwise are pretty easy. Maybe a bit of fertilizer helps, as potted plants do get fertilized a bit more heavily than garden plants with me.
Jamie
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So good to see these little irises. Great photos. They do grow well from seed and once they clump a bit they can look pretty amazing - a clump has the added advantage of flowering longer. I have hand pollinated to get seed but I have a feeling they would do it themselves anyway.
As mine are in the garden they get a very hot summer.
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I only can say I WANT ALL YOUR IRIS!! ;D
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I only can say I WANT ALL YOUR IRIS!! ;D
we wouldn't want to mince words, now, would we! Ditto!
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Hard to fault an Iris I say....
Finally attached a name to one of last years unknowns;
Iris lutescens 'Campbellii' have seen it as ssp. campbellii too, anyone know for certain?
Iris suaveolens 'Tumen Valej' our cross between yellow and purple forms of suaveolens, larger flowers similar in size to attica.
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Great stuff Chris !!
I. lutescens is an excellent blue ! 8)
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Chris, the Kew Check List shows only two sub species in Iris lutescens (ssp lutescens and ssp subbiflora) it seems 'Campbellii' has been marketed as such and as (wrongly) ssp campbellii.
BY the way I wasn't "having a go" at you on the naming issue. I'm a confirmed lumper, and feel that the only ones who benefit from a proliferation of names are nurserymen. Having said that if more names than are necessary are the key to ensuring that more small nurserymen stay in business then I'm all for it ;D
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Cheers Luc!
Hi David, thanks for the naming confirmation, no offence was taken. I too am a lumper ( honest! ), all the plants I have shown ( and some yet to show ) are Iris reichenbachii or Iris suaveolens, I certainly see no need to mess about with ssp. etc. Both species are however very very variable, I honestly don't think this variability is even close to being represented in cultivation.( Dark yellow through to white standards and falls, Dark purple into blue into violet and rose standards and falls , blue markings on the falls, dark red,green and brown markings on the falls ( sometimes feathered ), and more rarely bicolors.
If you are then in the business of selling plants and wish to identify particular clones for sale how best to approach the issue, numbers are all very well but I suspect that many people respond better to a name. A 'Blue Flag' may be more approachable than CGG&SLC/2008/IR/C1. ;) :D
Latest update, been checking ID keys on SIGNA and the plants I've shown as reichenbachii are infact pumila, I've been working off Flora Bulgarica which only has distance photos and no ID keys.
So for anyone like me who wonders, Iris pumila produces flowers that rise clear of their sheathes, Iris suaveolens produces flowers that flower without rising away from the sheath and has leaves that are distinctly crescent shaped,Iris reichenbachii produces flowers that rise clear of the leaves but carry the flower sheathes about half way up the flowering stem.
David, this miss ID on my part goes to explain the array of colour forms which is normal for pumila but less so for reichenbachii. Orchid ID is much easier!!!
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Chris again all I can say is what a fabulous collection of different forms you have. Thanks too for those key differences in the species too. Do you sell seed at any time?
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Just checked out your homepage and had my last question answered. Please let us know on this forum when you have seed for sale.
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Hi Pat, no problems, we'll generate a seed list towards the end of summer that will include seed from these 3 species and also attica, aphylla and variegata.
Darkest from of Iris pumila I've currently got, no name for this one, yet......
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Darkest from of Iris pumila I've currently got, no name for this one, yet......
Wow Hristo, what a wonderful velvet, rich purple with sky blue beards - a colour combination made in heaven :D
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Wonderful flower Chris !!! :o :o :o
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Chris,
I've clicked on this dark I. pumila a few times and am still amazed at the saturation, beard definition and fine form. I hope you will be able to sell this one soon It's a real gem. Would fit well into my aril x pumila program. Was this a wild collected clone or from seed?
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Chris,
your Irisses are wonderful.
Here are two which are flowering here now:
Iris attica
Iris suaveolens
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Cheers RR,Luc,Jamie & Wim
Two colour forms of Iris pumila ssp. taurica, these germinated spring 2009, were shaded and kept in growth beyond their normal season and so are flowering now, 1 year on!
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Well done Chris !
They look great !
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Congratulations on your alchemy 8)
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Love all these brilliant little irises and they go from strength to strength each year. :)
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Lesley, as RR points out they are magic, very gratfiying in that they flower and develop into large patches so quickly, and that's the species, not just the hybrids!
Flowering today after 36 hours of rain;
Iris babadagica aff. - from Janis
Iris reichenbachii 'Standard Yellow Form'
Iris reichebachii 'Standard Purple Form'
Iris reichebachii 'Darkest Purple Falcate Form'
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could somebody put a name to this iris for me i think its attica but could be wrong.
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Dave,
it will be interesting what other think, but I would find either I. attica or I. suaveolens/mellita possible. Attica is a simple diploid (16 chr.), while I. suaveolens has 24 chromosomes. Also, for the latter, the floral bracts are knife-edged, which your appear to be, I. attica is more like I. pumila with rounded to half-knife edges. A chromosome count would clear some things, as well as knowing from where the plant originated.
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My first pogon of the season- I think It is I suaveolens but I have to check the key because its not what is on the lable!
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Dave, Jamie, I'd lean towards Iris suaveolens, looks very much like my suaveolens var. violacea.
Peter, the clearance between the flower and leaves makes it look more like reichenbachii than suaveolens,
leaf form looks rather too gracile also, my suaveolens are broader and more 'scimiter' like!
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Peter what is the key you are referring to? Could you please add a link.
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Peter what is the key you are referring to? Could you please add a link.
Hello Pat, I do not have a key in the strict sense but in Brian Mathew's book "The Iris" (for example), under Iris attica he states " It is a very dwarf plant, .... more or less stemless,5 -10 cm in height in flower...strongly falcate leaves.. otherwise similar to I pumila though smaller "(variable coulors for both) " The two bracts subtending the solitary flower are rounded on the backs as they sheath the long perianth tube (5- 7cm); ocasionly the outer bract is some what keeled but never both of them as in I suaveolens (mellita)."
my plant despite the poor picture has a rounded inner bract and a keeled outer one, so it is clearly not not I suaveolens which was actualy my first guess, the lable said "dwarf purple reichenbachii" however under I reichenbachii Brian states that in this both bracts are keeled too
Under I pumila he states that both bracts are rounded or the outer one only slightly keeled and that pumila is deciduous while pseudopumila is not. so my plant is not pseudopumila which is in any case bigger than it. With other details given by Brian like the size of the plant stem length the outer bract usually being green and the inner one much paler for pumila, I must conclude my plant is I attica.
In his text B.M. also gives referances to other more detailed works such as one J. Poulin from Roumania who worked on the varients of I pumila and published in "Buletinul Gradinii Botanice si al Muzeului Botanic dela Universitata din Cluj, volume 14 (1934); 15 (1935); 25 (1946) and in the Flora Republicii Socialiste Roumainia 11 (1966).
If Chris or anyone else can go to the trouble of obtaining the wild varients of the pogon species and working out which they are, I should be glad of material and treasure it, each form representing its individual niche in Nature.
Peter
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Time for some more Iris :
1 and 2) Iris attica - one I particularly like !
3) Iris lutescens - yellow form
4) Iris reichenbachii - wine coloured
5) Iris reichenbachii - my darkest form
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Time for some more Iris :
1 and 2) Iris attica - one I particularly like !
3) Iris lutescens - yellow form
4) Iris reichenbachii - wine coloured
5) Iris reichenbachii - my darkest form
I can see why the attica is a favorite, I like the wine coulored reichenbachii too!
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Luc,
Wonderful plants!
The Iris attica is so beautiful- no wonder why you like it ;)
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Luc is the Iris attica a straight species?
Thanks Peter for the references - I should read Mathew more.
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Very nice miniatures everybody :)
Here is a very dark form of Iris lutescens, from south of France, and I. pumila
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Fred wow died and gone to heaven that dark form of Iris lutescens is simply stunning would it be possible to get a little seed ;D
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yes... if I get some ;)
wait and see... and remind me ;D
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Fred wow died and gone to heaven that dark form of Iris lutescens is simply stunning would it be possible to get a little seed ;D
Both stunning, but the beard contrasst on the lutescens is fabulous
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Fred,
very beautiful Iris lutescens 8) :o 8)
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Fred you keep wooing us with your fantastic irises - now the lutescens with the swan neck curves, velvety purple and gold beard. 8) 8)
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Luc is the Iris attica a straight species?
Thanks everyone !
Pat, this is what I found on SIGNA on I. attica
http://www.signa.org/index.pl?Iris-attica
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Yes Luc the SIGNA site is really good. It is just that the photo of your attica seems to have a "hybrid' look to me. Falls are wider and different to any that are shown on the SIGNA site. Just feelings being voiced here - I could very well be wrong!!!
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finally started in my garden too:-))
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Gorgeous Irises Arykana, number 2 is a really dark beauty - I bet the bees are busy too :D
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Yes Luc the SIGNA site is really good. It is just that the photo of your attica seems to have a "hybrid' look to me. Falls are wider and different to any that are shown on the SIGNA site. Just feelings being voiced here - I could very well be wrong!!!
Well I bought it from Bob and Rannveigh Wallis at Burried Treasure - they are normally a very reliable source.. :-\ I don't know the origin of the plant though.
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A less known iris of the group with members as I. attica, I. pumila and I. suaveolens:
Iris taochia from NE-Turkey growing in rocky places at 1500-1700m
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Looks like a multiflowered I. reichenbachii ;)
very nice pale yellow.
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Luc,
quite wonderful flower and branching! I hope you get some seed from it. Is this the only clone you have?
Jamie
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Erica, are you able to name your little irises? especially the almost black one, a real beauty.
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A couple of the first SDBs of the season.
Punk- with little horns
Rehash- a nice, clear effect with the strong blue beard
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Luc like I said I could be wrong and I was - your source would be one of the best - it is a beautiful form. Just that I had not imagined that you could get one in quite that colouring.
LucS your Iris taochia is a gentle colouring and fine form.
Erica and Jamie - like your named SBDs.
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Jamie, love Punk, has that Cadburys chocolate wrapper meets oil on water effect going on,very nice.
Flowering here now;
Dunlin
Pygmy Gold
Amphora
Cup Cake
Hocus Pocus
Grapelet
Little Blue Eyes
Jasper Gem
Well Suited
Ex Inscription, product of open pollintion, seed parent = Iris Inscription
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Luc,
quite wonderful flower and branching! I hope you get some seed from it. Is this the only clone you have?
Jamie
I have a secound clone but still to young to flower.
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Looks like a multiflowered I. reichenbachii ;)
very nice pale yellow.
It flowers much higher than my I. reichenbachii clones, at the moment approx. 35cm high.
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That's a great selection Chris. I specially like the very dark 'Grapelet.' Thought for a moment it was the same as Erica's little darkie, but perhaps not. 'Inscription' is lovely too.
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The nicely branched I. taochia must offer opportunities for a race of little, chunky, branched irises, taller than the pumilas but much shorter than medians and talls, yet with terrific flower power.
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A less known iris of the group with members as I. attica, I. pumila and I. suaveolens:
Iris taochia from NE-Turkey growing in rocky places at 1500-1700m
nice one Luc, I'm hoping mine will flower this year. Do you have purpureobractea?
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more - but I forget all the names :-[ :-[
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Hristo, it must look wonderful in your garden with all those gorgeous Iris flowering 8)
Grapelet is my favourite, too, and also Well Suited - the colours are just fantastic :D
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Lovely Iris images over the last week folks. Life is somewhat hectic in the Nicholson household at the moment and I have missed the flowering of my Iris suaveolens and a lovely dark form of I. lutescens (pics in 2011 I hope!). Here are a couple from the greenhouse today though and, yes, I've seen the aphids and they've gone to the great garden in the sky. Greenhouse is really showing a lack of attention at the moment :(
Iris reichenbachii from seed sown 14 January 2008; and a yellow form of Iris scachtii
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A less known iris of the group with members as I. attica, I. pumila and I. suaveolens:
Iris taochia from NE-Turkey growing in rocky places at 1500-1700m
nice one Luc, I'm hoping mine will flower this year. Do you have purpureobractea?
Sorry, no I don't
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lovely seedlings David, shame about the ones you missed though!
I dont have purpureobractea either Luc, been looking for it for some years now.
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Super Iris pictures from all of you :o
Current my Iris highlight - a dark blue I. pumila.
I accidentally saw and bought it from a local garden center 3 years ago. My initial excitement calmed down as it did'nt want to grow well and flower. But sometimes patience is required. Now my pleasure is even larger. :D
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My word Armin - what a star :D An unbelievable blue with deep purple falls - a true bluebeard, one might say....congratulations on such flowering of of this I pumila 8)
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Armin,
I think your pumila blue is actually a hybrid. The form and the flower stem are a bit extravagant for the true species, plus it is missing a spot, which is apparently always seen on wild pumilas. In any case, a beautiful flower.
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Armin, What a blue !!
Seems to be from another galaxy ;D
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Great stuff Armin !
Here's two from my garden :
Iris lutescens (from a friendly fellow Forum member !)
Iris ruthenica nana
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Nice ones Luc.
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Many thanks Robin, Jamie, Fred, Luc...I do not believe it is from another galaxy - it is on earth ;D
Jamie,
you might be right that is possible a hybrid. I don't know anything about breeding or selection origin. Also no cv. name.
I also cannot compare it with any other wild I. pumila form as it is my only one I have.
Just the blue color is great.
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Here are a few SDBs, plus one intermediate, almost SDB, the classic 'Antarctique'
Antarctique
Chanted
Chanted- close-up
Rehash
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I was given this as Iris babadagica
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Jamie,
you might be right that is possible a hybrid. I don't know anything about breeding or selection origin. Also no cv. name.
I also cannot compare it with any other wild I. pumila form as it is my only one I have.
Just the blue color is great.
The colour is really outstanding Armin. You will certainly by enjoying it.
In general, wild species or forms of these little bearded irises have pendant and/or tucked in falls, though there could be exceptions. Likewise, in general, hybrids using these species, and especially modern hybrids (say from 1960s onward) have wide or flaring falls, the reason for breeding for this trait, being that the irises are seen from above, unlike the tall forms, and from above, more colour and pattern are evident on widely flaring falls than on tucked in falls.
So, I'd agree that the lovely little dark form is a hybrid. (Look at the falls of Erika's hybrids, and the falls on Peter's babadagica or on Luc's lutescens.
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Luc,love you ruthenica nana, Jamie,vey nice selection!
Flowering here;
Iris aphylla
Iris ex inscription, seedling from same pod as previous post
Iris Gingerbreadman
Iris Sapphire Jewels
Iris Scholar
Iris Snugglebug
Iris Totally Cool
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A totally cool selection Chris ! 8)
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Chris,
your I. aphylla is very nice. Is this a seedling? I ask, as, other than being still small, there is little branching apparent. I have some seed sprouting and have my fingers crossed, that I will get some usable plants for further hybridizing. I have a few hybrids from Harold Mathes involving a yellow I. aphylla, which did not (yet?) bloom this season, so the picture is from last season. These are (I. aphylla X MTB) F2 seedling. I do not know the parentage of the MTB seedling, unfortunately.
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Jamie,
you might be right that is possible a hybrid. I don't know anything about breeding or selection origin. Also no cv. name.
I also cannot compare it with any other wild I. pumila form as it is my only one I have.
Just the blue color is great.
The colour is really outstanding Armin. You will certainly by enjoying it.
In general, wild species or forms of these little bearded irises have pendant and/or tucked in falls, though there could be exceptions. Likewise, in general, hybrids using these species, and especially modern hybrids (say from 1960s onward) have wide or flaring falls, the reason for breeding for this trait, being that the irises are seen from above, unlike the tall forms, and from above, more colour and pattern are evident on widely flaring falls than on tucked in falls.
So, I'd agree that the lovely little dark form is a hybrid. (Look at the falls of Erika's hybrids, and the falls on Peter's babadagica or on Luc's lutescens.
Lesley,
many thanks for your detailed explanation. Must be a hybrid then.
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I agree that Lesley's explanation was really good - if only I had taken better note as it is so obvious once told.
Some really beautiful irises being shown. I especially like the close to species and species ones and the 'Inscription' iris.
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Hi all ,
Can maybe anybody help a plantfriend of mine ?
He has a big collection of historial bearded Iris ( breeding from Goos & Koenemann ) and he is still searching for some plants – partly he has this plants and he need a other plant for comparisation .
"Iriskönig" from Goos und Koenemann 1907 ( “Iris –King“ )
"Fro" from Goos und Koenemann 1909
Both are Dikes medal-winner
"Petit Lion" Lowell Baumunk 2001
"Jaquesiana" Lémon, 1840
"Faustine" Lémon, 1859
Iris variegata regina
Iris variegata pontica
Iris neglecta
"Braemar Station" 2007 registered, from NZ
If anyboday can help with something for my friend so please send me a PM –I will pass it to him – he will answer to you direct .
He is offering rhizomes for swap from other historial Irises .
Thank you in advance
Hans
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A few wich were flowering here today:
Iris 'Snugglebug'
Iris 'Webmaster'
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Wim, love your Webmaster, very attractive falls.
A few more openers today, peak flowering is maybe 7 days away now!
Iris germanica alba
Iris Joyful
Iris Vamp
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Thanks Chris,
I think it's very nice too. Although it can not compete to your beautiful collection of Irisses, especially that Gingerbreadman.
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I like 'Webmaster,' but I like all those odd colours and patterns, though not necessarily odd shapes and appendages. ;D
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Super Iris pictures from all of you :o
Current my Iris highlight - a dark blue I. pumila.
I accidentally saw and bought it from a local garden center 3 years ago. My initial excitement calmed down as it did'nt want to grow well and flower. But sometimes patience is required. Now my pleasure is even larger. :D
trying to catch up some threads I found just your picture Armin.
I know there is since some years a Iris barbata nana Velvet Carpet in trade in Germany, which looks like your plant.
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Hans J,
I will post a not particularly good photo of Braemar Station taken in NZ last November.
Also look up Iris Colorado - this is Lowell Baumunk's iris nursery. I am sure Lowell could verify the 'Petit Lion'
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Hi Pat ,
thank you for your information -I will pass it to my friend
Hans
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What is this lovely old tb that was just posted?
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It looks similar to 'Benton Primrose', one of many irises introduced by the artist Sir Cedric Morris. See http://historiciris.blogspot.com/2009/03/sir-cedric-morris-iris-collection.html
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i'm hoping if you can tell me if this iris pumila is a hybrid or species
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May be someone can help me with name of this beautiful very dwarf Iris from near Lake Van in NW of Asiatic Turkey? It is only 10 cm high, blooms very abundantly for the first time with me.
Janis
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I visited an iris garden today: http://www.slide.com/r/1Ezu-r46zD8waJ4bFwofrVgMzk_RWHMb?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original
hope you enjoy
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After a week of cold and rain, a few smaller iris have braved a flower. 'Tantara' is an older and still lovely SDB, while 'Trescols Fancy' was released last season. A very clear an beautiful blue-violet with a slightly horned white beard. Simply a charmer.
The last is a hybrid from Harold Mathes from an (MTB x aphylla yellow) F2. Nice, clear colour, good branching, but lacks a bit on form. Could be a bit more robust, but i may have it too moist. I will transfer it to the new rockery after bloom.
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May be someone can help me with name of this beautiful very dwarf Iris from near Lake Van in NW of Asiatic Turkey? It is only 10 cm high, blooms very abundantly for the first time with me.
Janis
Janis
Looks like Iris attica, but as far as i know it isn't recorded from that area, the question is if it was introduced there.
Do you have a specific location?
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May be someone can help me with name of this beautiful very dwarf Iris from near Lake Van in NW of Asiatic Turkey? It is only 10 cm high, blooms very abundantly for the first time with me.
Janis
Janis
Looks like Iris attica, but as far as i know it isn't recorded from that area, the question is if it was introduced there.
Do you have a specific location?
It is very close to lake Abant (on road from Goynuk to Abant), some 30 km W from lake Abant. I suppose it could be suaveolens? What is your opinion?
Janis
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I visited an iris garden today: http://www.slide.com/r/1Ezu-r46zD8waJ4bFwofrVgMzk_RWHMb?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original
hope you enjoy
Very much, Erika, thank you 8)
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Flowering here now:
three small bearded Irisses of which I don't know the name
and Iris 'Open Sky'
and Iris 'Well Suited' which the snails have found >:(
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May be someone can help me with name of this beautiful very dwarf Iris from near Lake Van in NW of Asiatic Turkey? It is only 10 cm high, blooms very abundantly for the first time with me.
Janis
Janis
Looks like Iris attica, but as far as i know it isn't recorded from that area, the question is if it was introduced there.
Do you have a specific location?
It is very close to lake Abant (on road from Goynuk to Abant), some 30 km W from lake Abant. I suppose it could be suaveolens? What is your opinion?
Janis
Janis i would say I. attica, for the size and the brownish falls.
Now i have seen you have changed its original location from Lake Van to lake Abant, so its definitaly I. attica, it is recorded from Bolu which is close to lake Abant.
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Peak season has arrived here for the tall and intermediate types, a selection here;
Iris trojana
Iris Tumulteux
Iris - Tumulteux as seed parent - ( our own hybrid germinated spring 2009!)
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my iris in bloom...
iris reichenbachii
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iris from south france id please...
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another one from the same place id ?
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iris melitta
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iris suaveolens
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regards
chris
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Peak season has arrived here for the tall and intermediate types, a selection here;
Iris trojana
Iris Tumulteux
Iris - Tumulteux as seed parent - ( our own hybrid germinated spring 2009!)
Gorgeous Iris Hristo - love your hybrid 8)
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Christian,
that last one is unbelievable! :o
We even had an Iris reichenbachii flower here - a bit out of season!
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cheers
fermi
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my iris in bloom...
iris reichenbachii
iris melitta
I do like the way you grow your iris, Christian, it show the shapes off so well especially in the groups when sometimes the individuals merge. Iris melitta is a wonderful soft lavender colour.
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thanks robin, i like this small iris forms, but it´s not easy for me here in germany to buy special iris, like juno, onco etc.
in my area there are no specialists who cultivatet these forms, that´s a shame for me....
greetings
chris
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Christian you will just have to do what I have to do for most of my irises - grow from seed.
You do have some really lovely forms and set against the grey gravel and rocks is superb.
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hi, i´ll taste it with seed....
regards
chris
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Some irises from today
1. Iris furcata violacea
2. Iris furcata caerulea
3. Iris suaveolens
4. Iris reichenbachii
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Your furcata caerulea is beautifull
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Juri all the species are grown so well. Do they all grow outside all year? I will need to put Iris furcata violacea and caerulea on my wants list and take note when seed lists arrive.
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Yes, all of them are outside exposed to the extremes of weather with little attention but weeding
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Sorry Oleg for the wrong name - trying to do too much at once.
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here are two intermediates, 'Amelia Bedelia', which I thought I had lost over the years, plus 'Fritillary Flight', which I find particularly attractive in the garden. Subtle, not too gaudy, well branched.
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This DBI put up a flower now but I don't remember it flowering earlier in the season.
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I wonder if it is the one called "Wanganui Gem" bred by Jean Stevens in NZ in the 1930s? I've just been sent a piece of it but think it maybe one I've already had froma couple of sources.
cheers
fermi
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Nice plants Jamie and Fermi,
Flowering here now one of the seldom seen parents of many of the cultivated bearded hybrids, Iris variegata.
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A couple of recent acquisitions:-
Iris 'Paltec'. This is one I hadn't come across before, the label tells me that it is a cross between I. pallida and I. tectorum.
I. 'Raspberry Blush'
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A couple of recent acquisitions:-
Iris 'Paltec'. This is one I hadn't come across before, the label tells me that it is a cross between I. pallida and I. tectorum.
I. 'Raspberry Blush'
Glad to see someone else with paltec David, one of the few hybreds I hope to try recreating it one day, but with pallida ALBA x tectorum ALBA to try for a less grey coulor. I think the cross was achieved the other way round too but no longer exists. Here is a seedling of Iris junoniana flowering for the first time
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Some really desirable irises shown lately. Any would be welcome in my garden.
Thanks for posting everyone.
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Hi David and Peter. Sorry to tell you but that is not Paltec. I have had it for many years.
Here is a photo from Iris City Gardens site. It has a crest with some beard hairs, very small.
Thomas Silvers has been crossing Bearded and Tectorum for several years and registered
"Flying Dragon" in 2004. It is larger than Paltec.
John B
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Hi David and Peter. Sorry to tell you but that is not Paltec. I have had it for many years.
Here is a photo from Iris City Gardens site. It has a crest with some beard hairs, very small.
Thomas Silvers has been crossing Bearded and Tectorum for several years and registered
"Flying Dragon" in 2004. It is larger than Paltec.
John B
I should very much like to see Flying Drgon, I shall contact them. I am not sure If Davids plant is Paltec, I had not looked closely and the beard looks rather strong but my memory is hazy, the flower can vary according to conditions and age though, perhaps David could post a more mature picture? I shall post one If I catch it in bloom.
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is it possible that the plant david has got the pallida parent prevailed,i'm sure the crossing of tectorum to pallida would produce quite a lot of variation.
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I think you would be right but that Paltec is a clone and I have found it stable, it looks like a bearded Iris untill the flower ages a little when the stands spread, the crest/ beard is as John said. It is interesting as an intersectional cross
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Hi David and Peter. Sorry to tell you but that is not Paltec. I have had it for many years.
Here is a photo from Iris City Gardens site. It has a crest with some beard hairs, very small.
Thomas Silvers has been crossing Bearded and Tectorum for several years and registered
"Flying Dragon" in 2004. It is larger than Paltec.
John B
John, according to the Iris City Gardens site the Iris shown, and pictured as "Paltec" is a cross between Iris tectorum and a bearded iris "Edina". The label on mine says a cross between Iris pallida and tectorum. It wouldn't be impossible for there to be more than one plant masquarading as "Paltec" would it?
Peter, will try to get a better picture during next week.
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Been on the allotment this evening, Paltec was in flower, as well as some germanica forms
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these are young plants of collected Iris germanica forms, a form from sw france and spain, collected on the Island of Sun , Lake Titicaca between Peru and Bolivia where it had naturalised.
Iris germanica alba from Beaucaire
and Iris germanica vulgaris.
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I think you would be right but that Paltec is a clone and I have found it stable, it looks like a bearded Iris untill the flower ages a little when the stands spread, the crest/ beard is as John said. It is interesting as an intersectional cross
cheers for that Peter i didn't know Paltec was the clonal name i thought it might of been the grex name having pal and tec in the name.I understand now.
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there are some lovely Germanica forms there love the alba form.
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me too ;D btw its a small clump but it is growing well ;)
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Peter love the germanica forms - one at least ex Nigel I think.
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Yes Pat all three germanicas, He was Kind enough to send me a few plants :)
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Hi David and Peter. Sorry to tell you but that is not Paltec. I have had it for many years.
Here is a photo from Iris City Gardens site. It has a crest with some beard hairs, very small.
Thomas Silvers has been crossing Bearded and Tectorum for several years and registered
"Flying Dragon" in 2004. It is larger than Paltec.
John B
I should very much like to see Flying Drgon, I shall contact them. I am not sure If Davids plant is Paltec, I had not looked closely and the beard looks rather strong but my memory is hazy, the flower can vary according to conditions and age though, perhaps David could post a more mature picture? I shall post one If I catch it in bloom.
Another shoit of what I have as Iris 'Paltec'-is this a better aid to identification Peter?
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A gift from a very kind Forumist, Iris illyrica alba. The flower is still a little immature but I have to be away from home for most of next week and if I had waited it would be bound to be over.
One of a batch of unlabelled irises bought from Kelway's nursery last year (50p per plant!! ;D
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here is another seedling of an MTB X aphylla yellow
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Hi David and Peter. Sorry to tell you but that is not Paltec. I have had it for many years.
Here is a photo from Iris City Gardens site. It has a crest with some beard hairs, very small.
Thomas Silvers has been crossing Bearded and Tectorum for several years and registered
"Flying Dragon" in 2004. It is larger than Paltec.
John B
I should very much like to see Flying Drgon, I shall contact them. I am not sure If Davids plant is Paltec, I had not looked closely and the beard looks rather strong but my memory is hazy, the flower can vary according to conditions and age though, perhaps David could post a more mature picture? I shall post one If I catch it in bloom.
I'm sory to disagree with John on this, I'm pretty sure that this is Paltec David, I think the issue has been confused by the cross being recreated with other bearded parents resulting in plants which are not the cultivar "Paltec"
Another shoit of what I have as Iris 'Paltec'-is this a better aid to identification Peter?
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I'm sorry too Peter but here is the description of Paltec from the SIGNA Checklist of Iris. I haven't found
any reference of anyone recreating this cross until Thomas Silvers in this millennium.
Paltec.
(Louis Auguste Ferdinand Denis, 1928) MB; Ev; Dwf.
12 " (25cm); A dainty sky-blue self of rare beauty, having both the
crest of Tectorum and the beard of Pallida,
the beard being superimposed on top of the crest. 2n=26
(Iris Tectorum x Edina) [Iris Tectorum Maxim x MTB; despite the name Edina was probably not an Iris Pallida]
I'm sory to disagree with John on this, I'm pretty sure that this is Paltec David, I think the issue has been confused by the cross being recreated with other bearded parents resulting in plants which are not the cultivar "Paltec"
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Three more of my lost label 'beardies' from Kelways at 50p per plant.
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They seem to be coping quite well with your Devon weather David ! ;)
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Here are two blooming today, 'Capricious Candles', a space ager, plus an old aril hybrid, 'Butterfly Wings'. As it is less than 1/4 aril blood, it is not listed as an aril bred iris. Has great branching and a completely different look. It may well be virused after all these years, as the flowers do have streaks, but, as we know, this is not always indicitive.
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hi, some unknown bearded iris in my garden...
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cheers
chris
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you have a fabulous display Chris.
Can any one tell me about the purple flecking as the flowers have aged on my seedling Iris junoniana?
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From some of the comments on the ASI robin it seems that the weather can cause flecking - as well as virus.
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Super Iris pics all,
Jamie I love the peach colour in your yellow aphylla cross, nice form from the aphylla parent.
Flowering here some Iris first time flowering from Cayeux and Seagate Iris;
Iris Piroska
Iris Burnt Toffee
Iris Dutch Cocolate
Iris Feu d'ciel
Iris Oriental Baby
Iris Punchline
Iris Tumulteux
Iris Vague a l'ame
Iris Tempting Fate
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Nice plants Jamie and Fermi,
Flowering here now one of the seldom seen parents of many of the cultivated bearded hybrids, Iris variegata.
The Irises are looking wonderful at them moment in gardens and there are so many striking colour combinations with really beautiful postings here. The shapes and colours emerging as they unfold are fascinating. Hristo you have so many beauties....
Great shots from your allotment Peter :)
Love your irises en masse Chris 8)
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Thanks Ragged Robin,
Iris variagata davidowii as I have been told the purple forms are called is now flowering with me, I have another form with white stands, they are better in the ground, - but this was a better flower
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This is my other purple form of Iris variagata, this time with white stands and a more compact flower
edit: see this post for update.... Re: Bearded Iris 2010
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Peter they are fantastic i didn't know there was such variation with that species lovely
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and as reliable and rot proof as pallida but with better branching - no wonder the early hybridists grabbed them by their perianths :o
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Here's the last to flower of my 50p lost label irises from Kelways.
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A glorious end David - Kelways has so many lost labels all over the world it seems....
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Hi,
I have only to bearded iris and this is the first. The second is a couple of days from flowering.
Iris 'Black Swan'
Graham
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Flowering here in the last week:
3 Irisses of which I forgot the name
I. 'Andalou'
I. 'Burnt Toffee'
I. 'Mary Frances'
I. 'Patina'
I. 'Provencal'
I. 'Wild Yasmine'
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Hi,
I have only to bearded iris and this is the first. The second is a couple of days from flowering.
Iris 'Black Swan'
Graham
Graham, you have some wonderful groups of dark flowering iris 8)
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Wim, your irises are glorious colours, in particular I like:
Forgotten name 1 & 3 and Patina and Wild Yasmine are very different in colour and pattern - all gorgeous really :D
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Hi,
I have only to bearded iris and this is the first. The second is a couple of days from flowering.
Iris 'Black Swan'
Graham
Graham, you have some wonderful groups of dark flowering iris 8)
Hi Robin,
Thanks for the comments on both the bearded and the Chrysographes. I do like dark coloured and bold coloured plants, both blooms and leaves.
Graham
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Wim, your irises are glorious colours, in particular I like:
Forgotten name 1 & 3 and Patina and Wild Yasmine are very different in colour and pattern - all gorgeous really :D
Thanks Robin,
Patina is one of my favorites too.
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Lovely flowers everyone. Here is 'Dusky Challenger' just opening for me. It has a nice fruity fragrance.
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A lovely shade too Gail.
Here's my Iris variegata, a gift from a friendly Forumist. It's in apot at the moment but will be planted out next year.
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Hi David. Looks very much like mine grown from SIGNA seed ex. seed.
John B
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Good Lord it does too John. It's a small plant world.
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I'd say I.variegata is a pretty stable specie with little variation.
John
Good Lord it does too John. It's a small plant world.
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I'd say I.variegata is a pretty stable specie with little variation.
Thank goodness there are some of those species around, eh?!!
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I. variegata is a stunner. 8)
In Bavaria it is one of the most endangered species in the wild.
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Does this look correct for Iris chamaeiris syn. lutescens? I'm a bit puzzled, as the tag said "yellow"... though I do see photos of both purple and yellow-flowered ones. Thanks in advance.
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This is my other purple form of Iris variagata, this time with white stands and a more compact flower
I understand this form may be Iris lepida with white stands and purple veining on the white falls
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I'd say I.variegata is a pretty stable specie with little variation.
John
Good Lord it does too John. It's a small plant world.
I have several very distinct forms of I variagata, though they may represent areas of introgression by other species. They range from six inches in height to over two feet, I shall try to get some better pictures before they are over
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Another Iris variegata ( Samakov Region ) , standards a much duller yellow and more distinctly veined, falls patterned in a lighter brown than those previously shown by David and John. I do love that more acid yellow colour they are showing guys!
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Gail, love your 'Dusky Challenger'.
A few more from today:
unnamed Iris
Iris 'Colette Thurillet'
Iris 'Roman Rhythm'
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Lovely Wim. Roman Rhythm is on my 'want list' - I'll swap you for a piece of Dusky Challenger if you can spare some!
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Lovely Wim. Roman Rhythm is on my 'want list' - I'll swap you for a piece of Dusky Challenger if you can spare some!
Sure, I'll send you a PM.
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Lovley variagata Chris,
here's two forms in flower here, a short compact form and a tall form with clear yellow stands, which I am told may be a natural hybred with Iris pallida (?I squalens or amoena (in a yellow form ???) as described in Dykes Iris book ::)). Iris flavescens is also in flower. :D
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I had no idea that there were so many forms of Iris variegata. I must keep an eye out and get seed from any source.
I do find it a little harder here to keep going for some unknown reason.
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It seems more tollerant of damp and over crowding than many species Pat, maybe it needs more moisture with you, or a cooler position?
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Well I will keep trying Peter from seed and maybe I will find one tolerant of me and our conditions as it is one that I find really interesting.
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Cheers Peter,
I love the falls on your first form, not seen these markings before!
Pat,location seems to be everything for I.variegata, in the wrong
spot they sulk and dwindle away. Here they love an open position shaded
to the side by other plants growing around them. No surprise maybe as in
the wild I have seen them in shady riverine canyons,up against cliffs in wet
seeps, road edges under low growing beech scrub etc. etc.....
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Thanks so much Chris for those insights into Iris variegata requirement. Now I have abetter idea of where to try to grow it.
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One from me flowering today.
I have had this for about 30years. Given to me by my first boss and as it had no name then my wife and I just refer to it by his name.
I suppose it would be too much to expect a ID?
Graham
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Graham I would suggest you contact someone on the Historic Iris Preservation Society website.
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Can't help with the name but I think it's one I have from my parents' garden - has a lovely peppery scent, especially after rain.
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Whatever its name a very attractive iris Graham.
A few flowering here;
Iris taochia
Iris variegata ( 3 different collections )
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Graham I would suggest you contact someone on the Historic Iris Preservation Society website.
Can't help with the name but I think it's one I have from my parents' garden - has a lovely peppery scent, especially after rain.
Hi Pat
I will contact the Historic Iris Preservation Society and see what they say.
Gail
I had never thought of it having a scent but in fact it is quite peppery. I will let you know if I have any luck from the HIPS.
Graham
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A few flowering here;
Iris taochia
Iris variegata ( 3 different collections )
Nice, Chris, are these blooming late, or is this typical for you? Having seen all the fab fotos on the net, here and SIGNA, of I. variegata and her types, I may just have to grow a few, despite them being diploids! I'll just get out the colchicine. ;D ;D ;D
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Hi Jamie,
These are amongst the last iris to flower for us, variegata still has flowers to come. suaveolens is re-flowering, again!
Gotta keep crossing, not sure if you saw my post on onco page but we got 10 healthy looking seeds off Vera-Olivia.
Took 30-40 flowers and Simon crossing everything onto her that was flowering, simply too many crosses to record, everything from oncos to germanica hybrids to suaveolens and reichenbachii got onto her bits!
Quick plug as a few people have asked to be notified when I'm selling Iris. I've started listing on eBay, currently pumila, (3 colour forms)and Vera-Olivia,divisions from the clump that generated seed. Divisions are fresh and the roots not allowed to dry out!
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Here's a pot of Iris aphylla seedlings sown 4 September 2009. I have three germinated from the batch, one is quite small and the largest is about 12cm high. Should I re-pot them into their own pots now or leave them until next spring? Any help appreciated.
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You would be fine repotting them David.
I was amazed yesterday to see a cross that I did in 2007 budding up.
It was supposed to be Iris pseudopumila x (Iris hermona hybrid x Iris mariae) but I cannot see any aril likeness so far. The bees might have got there first.
It seems a stronger and taller form of the mother plant so far.
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Many thanks Pat.
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I've posted some Iris species to the Iris page today.
Here are some DBI in flower now,
"Mambo"
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"Knick Knack"
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"Zounds"
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possibly "Tarheel Elf"
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possibly "Raspberry Jam"
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"Making Eyes"
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possibly "Wanganui Gem" raised in NZ by Jean Stevens,
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Iris lutescens
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cheers
fermi
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Nice to see your DBI's getting started again Fermi !
The start of a long series I hope ! 8)
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My little Iris suaveolens flowering now in the autumn what a bonus.
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That is an early bird Dave.
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Yes very early for that little one.
On one of the iris threads recently it was asked how long do iris seeds remain viable.
Yesterday I noticed germination on seed that was from the aril seed bank (been defunct for years) of 1995 seed. Iris korolkowii v. violacea - I will need to check my notes as to when I received it as it was old seed when I received it and planted it out in pots in the nursery.
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Sidney Linnegar told me that when he trained at Kew he was given Iris seeds from the herbarium there from 0 to 10 years old, to sow. The best germination was from new seed, the next best from the 10 year old seed, and the next best from the 9 years old, and then the 8 year old.... I have heard similar stories about Cyclamen seed. it all suggests to me that inhibitors break down over time, and provided the seed does not also deteriate, germination improves. This begs the question how old does the seed have to be before the emryo/ seed deteriorates? ???
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The Iris bicapitata has a single purple flower in the clump. BUT it has 4 falls, 6 standards and 6 style arms ??? :-\
That was interesting Peter about germination.
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The Iris bicapitata has a single purple flower in the clump. BUT it has 4 falls, 6 standards and 6 style arms Huh Undecided
Looks like late freeze damage(for lack of a better word) Pat. I have a few of these every year
as does Elm and others I know.
John B
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Nice to see your DBI's getting started again Fermi !
The start of a long series I hope ! 8)
Your hopes are well founded, Luc, ;D
An unnamed light blue
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An apricot one
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"Fairy Footsteps"
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"Cat's Eye"
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"Pause" (no, not Cat's Paws!) - this one maybe an arilmed,
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cheers
fermi
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A few more DBI,
"Cupid's Cup"
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Unnamed purple
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"Cathy's Blue" another unnamed purple!
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An unnamed brown
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A yellow/brown which Lesley had a name suggested last year ? "Forest Glade"?
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An old "lilac/brown"
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another "oldie" in burgundy/brown
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cheers
fermi
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Don't forget, Readers.... you can enlarge the photos by clicking on them... they open in the same page :)
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Fermi you do have a nice selection. I especially like the old 'lilac/brown'
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Nice collection Fermi , really like Fairy Footsteps, thanks for sharing.
Angie :)
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Nice collection Fermi , really like Fairy Footsteps, thanks for sharing.
Angie :)
Angie, if you lived closer I'd be willing to send you some as it has bulked up nicely ;D
Fermi you do have a nice selection. I especially like the old 'lilac/brown'
Pat,
I'd be happy to do a swap! ;D
Here are a few more,
This is one I got labelled as "City" which looks like one of the "unknown purples" from my earlier posting!
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"Chargold"
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"Buster"
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And "Cat's Eye" again,
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cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi
Wonderful set. Aren't they a tonic? Never ask too much, never get too sick and are there every year to surprise no matter for how many years one grows them. I wish you could come up with a name for my contribution. Still don't remember where it came from :-\ :-\ Marcus
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Fermi it's just nice to see the pictures and at least when we see and hear how good a plant is it's then worth trying to source it here.
Thanks
Angie :)
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Marcus I don't think I sent you one that is similar.
Have found a photo that on first glance the name is not moldy.
This is possibly too big for Fermi's anyway
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Hi Pat,
No you haven't and no its not the same. I have a feeling "mine" came from Otto (where else ;D). I kinda remember one occasion where we trouped around his garden, he with a trowl in hand, and came back to the house with an assortment of roots. In the flurry I most likely didn't get the name. I recall it was the same day as he gave me a lovely caramel coloured one, which I have firmly in my mind as "Capucchino". Fermi knows the correct name, something to do with coffee ... or maybe this indicates my fondness for the drink???!!
I have your McW-1-Super Yellow belting out of a pot with 6 flowers! Weather here not so kind to the arils this time around. Too cold and precocious, cold, warm, cold, warm, freezing, gale, zephyr .... you know the way it goes down here. Its a wonder the poor things put up with it, I barely can and this is my "country".
Cheers, Marcus
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This bright orange DBI is a lovely gift to Will from an AGS member whose garden we visited last year, I think she gave the name as "Slang" ???
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A floriferous MBI "Aqua Taj"
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cheers
fermi
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Some MBI, the first being "Orb" which is apparently an Aril-Med.
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"Rebel Heart" (editted to correct name)
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"Strawberry Love"
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"Apricot Frosty"
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"Devil's Playground"
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And another I thought was the same as the above! I'll have to trawl through the diaries and see when I got that lot of irises!
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cheers
fermi
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More TBI are starting,
"Six Pack" - this has to be an Aussie name! - which Paul T has shown in previous years.
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The first flowering of one we got form a work colleague, which I think she said is called "Barbara, My Love"
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Can you tell it's growing amongst liliums?
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"Silk Sari"
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An old hybrid
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A "modern" plicata
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Possibly "Witches' Sabbath" which we have but I didn't think in this position! May've been moved during construction of the DSW.
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi, your supply of stunning Iris' seems endless !!! :o :o :o
I love Barbara too ! ;D ;D
Thanks again for showing ! It brightens up our gloomy autumn out here !
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Fermi they are lovely 8)
Luc said what I was thinking...brightens up our day.
Angie :)
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Thanks, Angie and Luc,
DSW ???
Dry Stone Wall.
We had one built for us this year; but the iris on the bank had to be dug up and re-planted,
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Lovely pics! Witches Sabbath definitely looks right. Those fuzzy yellow beards are wonderful on the black background. Nice!! Others particularly of note are 'Cat's Eye', 'Rebel Heart', Tarheel Elf' (love the contrast) and 'Fairy Footsteps'. I saw the first two at an iris nursery open day recently (but they didn't have any to sell of either! ::)) and the FF I bought from our local Hort Show last year was obviously mislabeled as it ended up being yellow. :o I had FF years ago which was why I was trying for it again.... the delicate tracery of pale blue plicata is gorgeous. I must prepare some pics of the dwarf iris I DID buy at the nursery when I was there. ;D Some very nice plants.
Lots of Iris in flower here at present too, plus a miriad other things. Thanks for showing us some of your wonderful collection. 8)
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Paul,
just let me know which ones you want when it's the best time to send them (end of summer)
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Actually, the best time to divide iris is right after flowering. That is why the iris catalogues come out then. They produce the best roots then, establishing them best for summer and then preparing for flowering. When I was better organised (i.e younger and had more time) I always divided my iris in November/December and had brilliant results. I find that later you divide them, the less flowers you get next year from the remaining clump. I should also be able to send you an offset of 'Acid Print', which you asked me for last year or the year before when I posted a pic. It hasn't done brilliantly, but whereas it was down to a single fan a couple of years ago, I think it is now up to 4, so I'm happy to send you one. I have a feeling you might also like 'Webmaster' that I bought recently. Still sorting pics from the last couple of weeks. I have literally taken more than 500 pics at various places in the last 9 days. That will winnow down to half of that or less, then hopefully will post some. ::)
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Hello Fermi,
your 'An old hybrid' resembles cv. 'Don Juan' introduced by Ferdinand Cayeux 1928.
I have the same unknown hybrid in my garden and found a name accidentally today in the www.
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Here's some Dwarf irises that I bought pots of at a recent open day at a nearby Iris nursery...
They're 'Frisk Me', 'Marksman', 'More Drama', 'Pele' and 'Webmaster'. All bar 'More Drama' were pots in flower, but the last one in flower had already been sold of that variety. A whole bunch of nice healthy fans in the pot though, so I don't mind too much. ;D
Enjoy.
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Here's just a few of the tall bearded irises in flower here at present....
Davis Seedling is a locally bred white. Excellent multiplication, and very, very floriferous with LOTS of buds on the flower stem. The guy who bred it refuses to name it though, so we just call it the Davis Seedling. ::)
Also 'Blue View', 'Goldfinger' (a spage age iris, with gold horns), 'Living Free', and 'Thornbird' (another space ager... interesting colour combination, which I'm sure Lesley will detest. ;D)
Enjoy (well mostly, anyway) ;)
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your 'An old hybrid' resembles cv. 'Don Juan' introduced by Ferdinand Cayeux 1928.
I have the same unknown hybrid in my garden and found a name accidentally today in the www.
Thanks, Armin,
it certainly looks the same! Good to know the name. Obviously a good one in a bed! :o ;D
Paul,
I've found a better survival rate with Bearded iris re-planted after the summer heat at least with our conditions.
Webmaster and AcidPrint will be welcomed when you have enough to spare!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Interesting. I think you do actually "bake" more than we do, particularly with your garden structure that traps heat as it does. I do tend to establish things in pots the first year in general as well, so they get better watering and hopefully offset better. That is also why I probably find that dividing them after flowering works. What might be best then is for me to divide you a piece off things now, and pot it and keep it through summer here? ???
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Some of my TBI flowering now,they have been around for 20-30 years or more so names have long gone.bye Ray
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Armin Fermi's old TB does look the same - I seem to have a whole dose of similar colourings - it is only when you put them side by side that you can see the differences.
A few of the oldies that have been flowering.
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Pat,
I'm glad to see you keep those old cultivars in honour. :)
In spite of the fact they do not meet the crimped flower shape and size of modern TBI breeding targets I still prefer the 'old Iris' flowers.
'Don Juan' and related color variations are good examples. In any case worth to keep!
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Here are a couple more of the "older hybrids" in a similar vein to "Don Juan"
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And some newer ones
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cheers
fermi
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compared to Fermi ,I grow only a few DBI ( not enough sunny spots left in the rockgarden ),including this one , whose colours I adore. Would someone have a name for it - Fermi does not know it .
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Otto,
I think that looks like 'Windrose' to me. 8) From memory it is variable in strength of colouring over the age of the flower. Opens darker and fades out a bit, probably also related to the climate/weather it is growing in. It's a beauty.
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Friends nearby gave just a bagful of iris rhizomes last autumn and a few of the ones above came from them and so did this lovely unfrilled maroon one
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We went to their place yesterday and took some pics of their "rainbow" bed!
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And some close-ups
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More to follow,
cheers
fermi
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More pics from our friends, Michael and Darryl's garden,
a stem of the last one was entered in the local flower show and won Best Bloom in Show!
cheers
fermi
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Wow! :o
impressive as mass planting of crocus ;D
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Wow! :o
impressive as mass planting of crocus ;D
Yes!! ;) :D ;D
What a lovely range of colours and those plants all growing in such good health.... very impressive..... :)
Congrats to your chums on their lovely garden, fermi.
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Wow! from me too.
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Got to say it WOW what a show.
Angie :)
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We went to their place yesterday and took some pics of their "rainbow" bed!
and Iris is the Goddess of the rainbow!
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Good grief !
Something tells me these people like Irisses Fermi ! 8)
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Good grief !
Something tells me these people like Irisses Fermi ! 8)
Yes, they certainly do and they chop them up and move them around much more than we do! The iris seem to aprove!
cheers
fermi