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Title: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 12:11:25 PM
Another great show yesterday in a gloriously sunny Edinburgh. Carole, Ian and their team did a marvellous job; lots of plants to talk about, wonderful catering (plenty of cakes!) and it was good to have time to sit down and talk to people.
I'm suprised that no-one has yet posted any photographs from the show - there were plenty of people with cameras there. Here's a couple of images of Cyril Lafong's (who else) wonderful Jeffrsonia dubia alba which won the Forrest medal in the peak of condition. Very difficult to time this for a show, but naturally he had two! :o
I'll post more this evening - the sun is still shining and I'm off out into the garden while it lasts
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2010, 12:39:57 PM
Breathtaking  8)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 11, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
Another great show yesterday in a gloriously sunny Edinburgh. Carole, Ian and their team did a marvellous job; lots of plants to talk about, wonderful catering (plenty of cakes!) and it was good to have time to sit down and talk to people.
I'm suprised that no-one has yet posted any photographs from the show - there were plenty of people with cameras there. Here's a couple of images of Cyril Lafong's (who else) wonderful Jeffrsonia dubia alba which won the Forrest medal in the peak of condition. Very difficult to time this for a show, but naturally he had two! :o
I'll post more this evening - the sun is still shining and I'm off out into the garden while it lasts

Peter, do you have any more information on Jeffersonia dubia alba?  Do you know where this beautiful albino form originated from?

I am very interested in Jeffersonia, and grow lots of both species (dubia and diphylla).  While I've seen varying hues in dubia, from lavender to good blue, have never seen any approaching white... glad to see this one.  I posted about these, and a form of dubia with red ovary, dark stamens, and red seed pods, in the "April 2010 - Northern Hemisphere- Flowering now" thread.

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5263.msg146992#msg146992
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5263.msg146859#msg146859

And a form with red ovary & dark stamens & red seed pods
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5263.msg146500#msg146500
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2010, 01:40:59 PM
Thanks for getting the ball rolling , Peter.
 It was a lovely day in all senses of the word... g good show, really glorious weather and exciting to meet friends old and new from Australia.... Cynthia Sladen, a real Globe Trotter who has attended SRGC events in the past and Debra Bartlett, a wonderful artist, specialising in  botanical subjects, who I have only corresponded with up to now, so it was a thrill to meet her.

I will have photos of the show plants to post when time allows.....though when that might be at the moment I can't say!  ;D


McMark... we can see if Cyril will give us more info..... :)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on April 11, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
Peter, thanks for the photos of Cyril's
Quote
Jeffrsonia dubia alba which won the Forrest medal in the peak of condition
to whet our appetite  8)  What a tempting starter  :D
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: alpines on April 11, 2010, 03:42:39 PM
Just LOVE the twin leafs. Our local, Jeffersonia diphylla, is almost out. Very late this year but I have seen the leaves. Here's a shot from last year.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 11, 2010, 04:04:20 PM
Just LOVE the twin leafs. Our local, Jeffersonia diphylla, is almost out. Very late this year but I have seen the leaves. Here's a shot from last year.

I'm a big fan of Twinleaf.  Evidently the foliage can be remarkably variable, and plant stature can vary quite a bit too.

Here are four pages of photos showing Jeffersonia diphylla, with some flower differences, but mostly foliar variability.  And I love the seedpods too, some photos here. (Note: these are user submitted photos, so there are some mis-IDs, showing J. dubia ::))
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=%22Jeffersonia+diphylla%22&m=text#page=0

Cute little one, distinctively cut leaves
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sklockwood/4158868636/
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 05:55:01 PM
Ok the sun's gone in so here's a few more (all Cyril's plants in this batch)
- Tecophilaea cyanocrocus leichtlinii - this was lurking behind the Jeffersonia in the earlier photos, and was past of a magnificent 3-pan entry. I think that tihs won a Certificate of Merit also)
- Trillium rivale (Winifred Murray group)
- close up of same
- Androsace neuwirthii (only named in 2009, was introduced in 2007 as A. bayanharshanii nom. prov. from 4900m on Bayan Har Shan, Qinghai, China)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 06:30:28 PM
A few more plants from Cyril:
- the three pan entry, which also contained Androsace muscoidea breviscapa
- Erythronium hendersonii
- Androsace vandellii
And just to show that there were other exhibitors:
- Sebaea thomasii (Tom Green) still going strong after winning a Farrer medal last week and nearly took the Forrest at Edinburgh
- Primula 'Peter Klein' (Geoff Hill)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 06:52:04 PM
There were 3 interesting displays of small pots of Primula allionii cultivars and hybrids:
- Sam Sutherland's traditional group of pots
- Jane and Alan Thompson's trough (ex-fishbox, of course)
- I didn't see a name with this, but I liked the symmetry of 8 pots in a pot!
- Speaking of troughs, here's the trough class
- the winning entry in close-up (Watt Russell)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2010, 06:59:12 PM
The orchid fans may recall that Forumist Graham Catlow showed a most attractive planting of Pleoine forrestii in theat thread the other day.... he was gently persuaded that it be entered at the Show... and look what happenend.... it won the prize for the best exhibit from a First-Time Exhibitor!! Pretty good, huh?!!
Here is Graham, with the pot full of pleiones and the award card.... well done, Graham!


(As always: click on the photos to enlarge them)

Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Gail on April 11, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
Congratulations Graham - I really love the way you've displayed your pleiones like that.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: ChrisB on April 11, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Very well presented!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 11, 2010, 10:18:39 PM
Another stunning show. Will they never stop? MAY they never stop!!! 8)

Although we have a cushion thread, there are few plants posted there. Could some of the above posters or even better, the exhibitors, post their cushions please? For the best visual treat as well as the best learning experience, many examples, with some cultural and display notes would give best results.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 10:52:04 PM
More from Edinburgh - The Royal Botanic Garden again put on a fantastic display;
- first the display overall, then the plants;
- Iris albomarginata (a good form)
- Iris vicaria
- Iris aucheri 'Olof'
- Fritillaria hermonis amana
- Muscari tenuiflorum
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2010, 10:57:17 PM

Peter, do you have any more information on Jeffersonia dubia alba?  Do you know where this beautiful albino form originated from?

I am very interested in Jeffersonia, and grow lots of both species (dubia and diphylla).  While I've seen varying hues in dubia, from lavender to good blue, have never seen any approaching white... glad to see this one. 

 Well, McMark, I've heard from Cyril about the Jeffersonia...... he says:

"I believe the pure white form of Jeffersonia dubia is naturally occurring with the same distribution as the type colour, i.e. Manchuria and Eastern Russia.  I had heard about it for quite some time and wanted to get hold of it.  I asked the audience at a lecture I gave at the Stirling show.  This paid off as Neil Huntley form Hartside Nurseries told me that Robin White (of Daphne fame) had plants.  I was able to arrange to get 2 plants from Robin in 2000.  Both plants are still here, one in a pot and one in the open ground.  The plant I showed at Edinburgh is probably 12 years old.  The smaller plant I showed in the 3 pans from seed class was a seedling from the big plant.  I have raised many seedlings and the vast majority turn out to be pure white but I have had a couple sowing the more usual lavender-blue colour.
Best regards
Cyril"
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 11:17:36 PM
Back to the pictures :P
- Rhododendron 'Rose Elf' (Stan da Prato)
- Tecophilea cyanocrocus violacea (Cyril again). This is a real challenge to photograph; the original digital file came out blue, just like the type form, and just the sort of blue we could never achieve with slide film. I've done a bit of fancy post-processing, and this is approximately correct, altohugh I notice that all the pictures I'm posting are slightly cold in colour, my monitor must need calibrating)
- Pulsatilla 'Budapest' (Eileen Goodall). This was in the class for a plant dug from the open ground within ten days of the show, so you must forgive the spotting on the out of focus petals behind  ;)
- Primula veris (Mike Dale)
- Saxifraga georgei (Carole and Ian Bainbridge) - and they said they had no presentable plants after snow broke over 20 panes of glass in their alpine house. This won the best Saxifrage trophy.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 11, 2010, 11:22:56 PM
That certainly is a very nice form of Iris albomarginata, if my own version is anything to go by. Mine may not be true of course (AGS seed) and I've never though it worth a photograph even. :'(
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 11, 2010, 11:39:43 PM
Lesley, there was another form in the show, which won a first prize for John Lee, which was ok, until you turned around and saw the form that the RBGE were showing  :o

Last batch of photos for tonight (more tomorrow)
- Sempervivum 'Lion King' (Graham Catlow, of Pleione forrestii fame). This didn't win a first in its class, but I really liked the way in which it was presented. You can't see from the photo, but it was growing in a shallow terracotta saucer, of the type that you would stand a pot in, and the aged rocks made it look very natural. The whole thing was no more than a copule of inches high above the table.
- Rhododendron 'Plover' (Jane and Alan Thompson). A very 'girly' pink!
- Aeonium tabuliforme (Stan da Prato). Just a portion of the rosette, which was about the size of a dinner plate (and we're talking big portions here folks!)
- Anemonella thalictroides 'Schoaf' (someone called Cyril....)
- Tulipa polychroma (John Lee). This won the prize for best bulbous plant in the show.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 12, 2010, 01:24:16 AM
Last batch of photos for tonight (more tomorrow)
- Sempervivum 'Lion King' (Graham Catlow, of Pleione forrestii fame). This didn't win a first in its class, but I really liked the way in which it was presented. You can't see from the photo, but it was growing in a shallow terracotta saucer, of the type that you would stand a pot in, and the aged rocks made it look very natural. The whole thing was no more than a copule of inches high above the table.
- Anemonella thalictroides 'Schoaf' (someone called Cyril....)
- Tulipa polychroma (John Lee). This won the prize for best bulbous plant in the show.

I'm pleased to see a semp featured here, and probably one of the darkest ones I've ever seen, and skillfully potted and presented. :o  Does anyone know more about this one, is it a David Ford hybrid?

Is there an Amenonella thalictroides cultivar just named simply "Schoaf" ???

For those people who attended the show, they were certainy treated with the incredible perfume of T. polychroma blooms.  I said it before and will say it again, this is by far my very favorite Tulipa species.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 12, 2010, 01:34:33 AM
Well probably 'Schoaf' is enough just as is Cyril. for an ID. I've seen it as 'Shoaf's Double' or as 'Oscar Schoaf.' Presumably they're the same. Which is correct though? Neither lives with me.

I really like that Sempervivum too, almost a stone colour itself. It seems it takes many shows and much discussion for judges to change the ways they view some entries. They seem to hate anything that is not just the same as it has always been done. A different kind of presentation seems always to be frowned upon. Pity, when the plant itself is excellent. But of course we haven't seen the winning semp.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 12, 2010, 01:46:11 AM
Well probably 'Schoaf' is enough just as is Cyril. for an ID. I've seen it as 'Shoaf's Double' or as 'Oscar Schoaf.' Presumably they're the same. Which is correct though? Neither lives with me.

I really like that Sempervivum too, almost a stone colour itself. It seems it takes many shows and much discussion for judges to change the ways they view some entries. They seem to hate anything that is not just the same as it has always been done. A different kind of presentation seems always to be frowned upon. Pity, when the plant itself is excellent. But of course we haven't seen the winning semp.

Well, there is an Anemonella thalictroides 'Schoaf's Double Pink' (often listed as 'Shoaf's Double Pink', the "c" dropped, but the person's name was a Mr. Schoaf), I'm not aware of any cultivar simply name 'Schoaf'... probably just a "shortening" of the full name.

I wonder if the UK shows have a Sempervivum entry, or more likely, a Crassulaceae entry?  I'm completely inspired by the naturalistic potting of the Sempervivum 'Lion King' here, and I want to try ro emulate it.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 12, 2010, 01:57:14 AM
Well, McMark, I've heard from Cyril about the Jeffersonia...... he says:

"I believe the pure white form of Jeffersonia dubia is naturally occurring with the same distribution as the type colour, i.e. Manchuria and Eastern Russia.  I had heard about it for quite some time and wanted to get hold of it.  I asked the audience at a lecture I gave at the Stirling show.  This paid off as Neil Huntley form Hartside Nurseries told me that Robin White (of Daphne fame) had plants.  I was able to arrange to get 2 plants from Robin in 2000.  Both plants are still here, one in a pot and one in the open ground.  The plant I showed at Edinburgh is probably 12 years old.  The smaller plant I showed in the 3 pans from seed class was a seedling from the big plant.  I have raised many seedlings and the vast majority turn out to be pure white but I have had a couple sowing the more usual lavender-blue colour.
Best regards
Cyril"

Thanks Maggi, you're a maggician!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Mick McLoughlin on April 12, 2010, 08:06:56 AM


I wonder if the UK shows have a Sempervivum entry, or more likely, a Crassulaceae entry?  I'm completely inspired by the naturalistic potting of the Sempervivum 'Lion King' here, and I want to try ro emulate it.

Mark,
The AGS shows certainly have classes for Crassulaceae and also separte ones for Sempervivum, often as Sempervivum or Jovibarba.
Cheers
Mick
P.S. I'll try and remember to post some photos from next show I'm at for you.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Gail on April 12, 2010, 08:45:22 AM
Mark,
The AGS shows certainly have classes for Crassulaceae and also separte ones for Sempervivum, often as Sempervivum or Jovibarba.
Cheers
Mick
P.S. I'll try and remember to post some photos from next show I'm at for you.

In the meantime here is Sempervivum ciliosum var. galicicum from the London Show last week.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 12, 2010, 08:49:03 AM
That's a good one, Gail.... looks like a futuristic townscape!  :)


I have some more pix of semps at the show.... but still no time to post them yet!

McMark... have a look in the show section here....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4789.0 ......you will download all the Scottish Show Schedules there.... you can plan your entry!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 12, 2010, 09:15:23 AM
Great show and superb plants once again !!!  :o :o
Thanks for sharing Peter - I'm sure there's lots more to come...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on April 12, 2010, 09:25:51 AM
Quote
Sempervivum 'Lion King' (Graham Catlow, of Pleione forrestii fame)

Congratulations to Graham on both accounts - the naturalistic presentations are absolutely lovely and add another dimension to the overall look of the plants I think  8)  This is how Sempervivum grow naturally here in the Alps hugging aged rocks!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on April 12, 2010, 09:30:44 AM
More from Edinburgh - The Royal Botanic Garden again put on a fantastic display;
- first the display overall, then the plants;
- Iris albomarginata (a good form)
- Iris vicaria
- Iris aucheri 'Olof'
- Fritillaria hermonis amana
- Muscari tenuiflorum

Thanks for such a terrific photo report Peter and I enjoy your comments  :)  The RBGE display looks magnificent and the above you singled out are a dream - especially Iris vicaria, looking so delicate set against their backdrop.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 12, 2010, 02:22:41 PM

In the meantime here is Sempervivum ciliosum var. galicicum from the London Show last week.


Thanks Gail, that's a stunner, looks like something from another world.  I grow S. ciliosum var. borisii, an essential species for any semp collection; I've not heard of var. galicicum before.

So, I just started a Sempervivum and Jovibarba thread, where I show a color time progression on a planter I have containing 2 semp and 1 Jov.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5315.msg147736#msg147736

Maggi, looking forward to more splendidly grown Semps in UK plant shows when you have time.

Thanks :D
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 12, 2010, 09:50:27 PM
So many on that last sempervivum that are going to flower too. I hope we get a chance to see it in bloom. I know they're mainly grown for their rosettes and foliage form and colour but the flowers are very good too, especially in their earlier stages.

You're right Robin, the RBGE backdrop really enhances the display and says where so many fabulous plants have their natural homes. Like milk and cabbages, it must surprise some show visitors that the plants don't come only from the garden centre - or supermarket as the case may be, but have a REAL life far away from our so called civilized world. :)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 12, 2010, 11:58:18 PM
So many on that last sempervivum that are going to flower too. I hope we get a chance to see it in bloom. I know they're mainly grown for their rosettes and foliage form and colour but the flowers are very good too, especially in their earlier stages.

Graham has joined in on the Sempervivum & Jovibarba thread, so I'll ask that he show us a pic when in full flower.  S. ciliosum is one of the better ones so far as flowering goes, not so tall and gawky as some semps, and a bright yellow flowers.  Yes, he's certainly going to have some holes in that clump later this summer :D  With S. ciliosum var. borisii, it rarely flowers (a good thing), so maybe var. galicicum flowers more freely.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 13, 2010, 12:30:54 AM
But does it matter that they flower well? Usually the spaces left by dead, flowered rosettes get filled up again very quickly.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on April 13, 2010, 01:25:20 AM
But does it matter that they flower well? Usually the spaces left by dead, flowered rosettes get filled up again very quickly.

When maintaining a semp collection, particularly when growing in pots with only a few rosettes of each variety, it is possible to have all rosettes of a variety flower and die, thus losing that variety.  Usually flowering is not considered a "benefit" among semp growers, but may be welcome by semp hybridizers. But generally speaking, the dead rosette is typically quickly replaced by fresh offsets.  Then with Jovibarba heuffelii that doesn't make offsets, but increases by a VERY SLOW process of division, having too many flowering rosettes in definitely not wanted.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 16, 2010, 11:09:10 AM
I'm glad to see people appreciating that Sempervivum.
Many apologies for keeping folks waiting for the rest of the photos from Edinburgh - busy week at work  :(
Here's the rest of my pictures over the next few posts - perhaps they will whip up excitement in advance of the Perth show tomorrow.

- Erythronium citrinum x oreganum (Carole and Ian Bainbridge) this is a lovely plant that Carole and Ian have been bulking up for several years. The flower colour is quite delicate, and it's hard to do it justice in a photograph on the show bench.
- Fritillaria tubiformis var moggridgei (Jean Wylie) the yellow form, there is also a picture of:
- Fritlllaria tubiformis (Margaret and Henry Taylor)
- Fritillaria kotschyana Craigton Max (John Lee) regular forumists will recognise from the name that this is an Ian Young selection.
- Fritillaria bucharica (David Millward)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 16, 2010, 11:25:00 AM
A final few....
- Fritillaria eduardii (Jean Wyllie) Yes, there were a number of Frits at the show; we had hardly any at Hexham, another sign of the late start to the season.

- Primula 'Lismore Jewel' (Jane and Alan Thompson) a close-up of this fabulously coloured Primula allionii hybrid. This plant is one I find difficult as it gets to about 4-5 inches across and then collapses for no apparent reason, leaving me with 2 or 3 useable bits as cuttings to start again. This plant was over 6 inches across, so I should have found out how they do it!
-Tecophilea cyanocrocus (Peter Semple) Yet another example of what is, for me the Edinburgh show plant, there always several at the show, and it is fitting as one of the final pictures from this year's show.

- 2 views of Fritillaria monarda aff. (Frit. monantha aff) (Cyril Lafong) a plant that was awarded a PC by the Joint Rock meeting. Apparently the flower colour caused great difficulty for Carole who was the secretary for the meeting and had to write up the description. It doesn't correspond to any of the colours on the RHS colour chart - another first for Cyril?
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 17, 2010, 06:50:47 AM
Has anyone some information about Frit monarda please? I don't know that name at all. I had seed of F. monantha once but it turned out to be something else anyway.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Peter Maguire on April 17, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
Ooops, error on my part, my original notes from the show have it as Frit monantha. I'll change the text and hopefully Maggi can change the caption sometime after today's Perth show  ::)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 17, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Ah, thanks Peter. It's easy to do. I once sent out a whole batch of irises as tectorum when I knew they were actually tenax.  And then I complain when I get a wrongly named plant! ???

Now that I've seen monantha I'm even more disappointed that mine were not. I think they were (are) montana or orientalis. One from that group anyway.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 19, 2010, 10:22:21 PM
Here are some photos from Edinburgh.... Peter has already given a good view but maybe these are a little different.....

30cm Aeonium
Arcterica nana Redshank
cannot remember name!! :-[Calocephalus brownii : thanks, Robin!!

Cercis Prunus  and bench
Eileen Goodall's  Pulsatilla. Budapest
Iris bucharica
Muscari chalusicum
Pleoine pogonoides.
primulas in section 2 .... this Section was well supported at the Edinburgh show.... good news for the future!  8)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:10:15 AM
more from the show.....

2 pan tulipa
2 pans seed
3 pans bulbs from 3 different families.
3 Scots natives
3 native to Spain from M&HT
6 pan bench
6 pan bulbs
 spiralling foliage
 bench Cryptomeria japonica spiralis (sic)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:13:41 AM
there were a lot of primulas at the show.....

6 primulas
6 more primulas
P. marginata var.
primroses
primula allionii Irene ?????
Primula denticulata
Primula elatior
Primula 'Margaret Marshall and 'Lismore yellow'
Primula marginata 'Lemon Sorbet'
Primula 'Netta Dennis' ... I think?
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:18:53 AM
those primulas were everywhere....
Primula 'Peter Klein'
Primula warshenewskiana - first version
Primula warshenewskiana - second version
primulas in profusion
primulas in section 2
and still they came
bless me_ more primulas
they went on and on_then turned into Androsaces
yes, a good year indeed
one began to have feelings of having been here before
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:22:34 AM
it was the year of the primula......

it was a good year for primulas
but they were all so sweet I couldn't pass them by.jpg
still primulaceae... but this is Soldanella alpina alba
still primulaceae... but this is a Cyclamen
still primulaceae... but this is an Androsace
still primulaceaea... but this is a Dionysia

this strange bench view  must have been caused by the dizzy sight of so many primulas!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:26:06 AM
There were other plants....

Watt Russell's  trough
list of plants in Watt's trough
Stan Da Prato's trough
Frit. meleagris
Aciphylla lyalli
Androsace from Cyril's 3 pan
Cyril's 3 pan
Teco. leichtlinii from CL 3 pan
Jeffersonia dubia alba_ Forrest Medal
Androsace and Primula
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:36:27 AM
and more....
Androsace neuwirthii
another 6 pan bulbs
narcissus class
another narcissus class
Australasians
clearly labelled Cyclamen libanoticum
close on 6 pans
close up of Forrest Medal Jeffersonia
conifers
Crocus 'Cream Beauty' ... late in the season and a  lovely treat.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:40:23 AM
on we jolly well go....

corydalis bench view
Corydalis maracandica
corydalis
cute muscari chalusicum  I think from Cathy and Barry Caudwell
Cyclamen - good leaves
end bench
foliage bench
Frit. davisii
green on green
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:46:18 AM
onwards....

 lovely fresh growth of Forrest Medal Jeffersonia dubia alba
hall 1 during judging
hall 2 during judging
hall 3 during judging
Helleborus lividus
Iris like a flower arrangement
jeffersonia from seed class
jeffersonia, paraquilegia , primula dubernardiana
primula dubernardiana notes from seed class
mixed 3 pan
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:51:59 AM
more:
lifted from the open ground within 10 days of the show
 3 of the judges; Ian Young, Beryl MacNaughton, Sandy Leven
Mammillaria plumosa- dead or alive
more from seed
more narcissus
Narcissu bulbocodium obesus
Muscari chalusicum
narcissus 2
Narcissus 'Mitzy'
Narcissus 'Twin Stars'
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 01:55:58 AM
more.....
narcissus
overflowing Androsace vandellii
perfect Androsace vandellii
Paraquilegia full
Paraquilegiaclose up
Pinus strobus radiata
pleione close
Pleoine pogonoides
pulsatilla
the reserve judge..... waits......
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:02:02 AM
.......on to the RBGE display which was truly lovely and won a gold medal for the talents of Elspeth McIntosh in growing and arranging the plants. Thanks to John Mitchell for enabling the RBGE involvement.

 As ever: click on the pictures to enlarge them....
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:05:14 AM
more from the display of the Royal Botanic Garden, Edinburgh.....


rbge 9
rbge 10
rbge11
rbge Brassica balearica
rbge Dionysia
rbge Iris albomarginata
rbge Iris aucheri
rbge right
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:09:40 AM
some more from the competitive show....


Rhododendron. 'Rose Elf'
Rhodo 'Plover'
Rhodo 'Snow Lady'
Rhodiola trollii AD879
rich coloured Lewisia tweedyi
saxifragas
Sebaea thomasii
Section 2 Scilla
Section B  6 pan.. was this from Mike Hicks?
seed or new rare  class?
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:18:39 AM
we're getting there.....some semps  etc.....

Sempervivum arachnoideum var tomentosum
Semp. borissii
Semp. altlanticum Edward Balls and S. humifusum
small 6 pan.jpg
smart 3pan with Dionysia to rear
Soldanella carpatica x pusilla
Struan behind Frit. eduardii
Tecophilaea cyanocrocus
Townsendia hookeri
Trillium rivale
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:23:38 AM
the end is in sight...... thank goodness.. it's almost half past two in the morning  :-\
trillium
tulip
Tulipa 'Lilliput'
Tulipa polychroma whole pot
Tulipa polychroma close
Tulipa sogdiana 1.
Tulipa sogdiana 2
tulips and primulas

 ...click on the photos to enlarge them.....
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:27:07 AM
All in all it was a lovely day.... even the weather was glorious... there were lots of eager vistors and plenty of great plants to enjoy....


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Eager Show Visitors

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Viola jooi
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viola jooi close

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wall to wall Tecos

Thanks so much to Carol and Ian and all the Great Embra Gang for giving us all a wonderful day!  :-*
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 20, 2010, 03:29:27 AM
"Reserve judge.....waits"

Typical teenager, fiddling with his cell phone. :D

Certainly a great show for primulas. I'll have P. marginata 'Lemon Sorbet' please.  ;D

And any idea what the yellow plant is, in the front of Stan de Prato's trough please? A golden-leaved thyme maybe? or something in flower?
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 20, 2010, 03:36:47 AM
The Embra BG displays are certainly enhanced by their gorgeous backdrops. Now they just need some kind of deep board or barrier in front,  ::)to hide the pots, perhaps fill up the space between them with grit or something.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lvandelft on April 20, 2010, 07:49:08 AM
Here are some photos from Edinburgh.... Peter has already given a good view but maybe these are a little different.....

Just missed this thread until now. Thanks Peter and Maggi!
So many Primula's over there, must have been a great show. I wonder about the picture: Cercis bench..., don't see any C.

And glad I found the picture of Brassica balearica. I remember that I asked for identification many years ago, but without an answer. It is still seeding around here but never a nuisance.
It's just when growing outside it's much flatter to the ground. Or it's a different one, though?
Must search for a picture.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 11:36:46 AM
Lesley, it would not be feasible for the display from the RBGE to cover the pots.... these displays must be tranported with minimal assistance, around the country, set up quickly and dismantled even more quickly, all in one day....a more complete disguise of the pots would require two vans, more people, more kit and a lot of mess in a show hall that would likely result in the SRGC being banned from future use! :-X

Luit, sorry, I lost my mind...in the photo of the flowering shrub it is, of course a Prunus not a cercis!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 20, 2010, 11:42:50 AM
I think the fact that the RBGE go to the trouble to take this magical displays round the country is fantastic. Bringing the plants to the people will encourage more people to go visit the Botanics.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 11:45:49 AM
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And any idea what the yellow plant is, in the front of Stan de Prato's trough please? A golden-leaved thyme maybe? or something in flower?
Got it in one, Lesley... it is a golden thyme... here's a close-up
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Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 20, 2010, 01:38:58 PM
Wonderful pictures - Great work Maggi  :-* and Peter  ;) !
Thanks a million for showing these !
What a wealth of gorgeous plants !
The "perfect" Androsace vandellii definitely is perfect  :o- and so are many others !
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on April 20, 2010, 02:34:33 PM
Here are some photos from Edinburgh.... Peter has already given a good view but maybe these are a little different.....

30cm Aeonium
Arcterica nana Redshank
cannot remember name!! :-[
Cercis Prunus  and bench
Eileen Goodall's  Pulsatilla. Budapest
Iris bucharica
Muscari chalusicum
Pleoine pogonoides.
primulas in section 2 .... this Section was well supported at the Edinburgh show.... good news for the future!  8)

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cannot remember name!!

Might I hazard a guess and score a point ::)

Calocephalus brownii

If it is.... I grow it here in the rockery and it survived the winter and sparkles in the sunlight  8)

More wonderful photos of great plants, Maggi, and I wonder why I never seem to progress on the jobs I'm supposed to be doing - just too much fun on the forum visiting Shows  ;D
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2010, 02:42:27 PM
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cannot remember name!!

Might I hazard a guess and score a point Roll Eyes

Calocephalus brownii

Well done, Robin! I would never have remembered that in a month of Sundays! I'll go edit the post, Thank you!  :-*
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on April 20, 2010, 03:01:08 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 20, 2010, 09:35:42 PM
Maggi, my tongue was firmly in my cheek actually. I think the RBGE displays are fantastic. Though a flat board in front of the pots would be feasible. :D

Thanks for the thyme picture. I do have a golden thyme but not nearly so flat and compact. I really like that one. :P
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Carol Shaw on April 21, 2010, 03:00:44 PM
The Embra BG displays are certainly enhanced by their gorgeous backdrops. Now they just need some kind of deep board or barrier in front,  ::)to hide the pots, perhaps fill up the space between them with grit or something.

This is not Gardening Scotland but a show - the RBGE has, at most, an hour to set their display up. Like most of the Scottish members I appreciate the work that Elspeth and her team go to in order that we can see the plants. At Edinburgh Show Elspeth was in charge of the catering so was there at 7am buttering rolls etc. - this in addition to setting up the Botanics display. Your comment might have been tongue in cheek Lesley but it is a 'put-down' to the RBGE team who take their wonderful display to our shows. Frankly who cares if you can see the pots or not - certainly not those of us who go to the shows!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 21, 2010, 03:33:07 PM
Carol, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would imagine that these guys are doing this on what would normally be their day off?
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Carol Shaw on April 21, 2010, 10:47:36 PM
Carol, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would imagine that these guys are doing this on what would normally be their day off?

Absolutely they are doing this in their own time! And, given that the RBGE does not pay well and expects their staff to work their socks off all I can do is say 'Thank you' every time I see their display.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 21, 2010, 11:36:16 PM
I know how hard they work. I spent half a day raking up leaves as part of a week's 'inservice' at the botanics a few years ago. I had aching muscles in places I didn't know I had muscles! :o
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 22, 2010, 01:51:02 AM
Carol, and anyone else I've upset, believe me, I hugely admire the team who do the RBGE dispalys and would NEVER, "put down" anyone in any circumstance. Those on the Forum whom I tease sometimes - and tease me in return - know that all such comments are made in jest. I despise people who deliberately set out to hurt or harm, with words.

My only regret about the display and about all the shows, is that I can't be there to enjoy them in full, as you are able to do.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on April 22, 2010, 11:55:54 AM
Lesley,  it is clear your comment was made as a constructive idea as to how the display could be made to look even more realistic with the fab background and not as any type of "negative" comment at all.... I don't doubt that Elspeth and the RBGE Folks will realise that perfectly well.
In turn, my post detailing the problems with following Lesley's suggestion was to make the situation clear to anyone reading this who has not seen such a display or show and may not realise the effort involved.
Nobody's "knocking" anyone !! :P

Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 22, 2010, 09:44:39 PM
Thanks Maggi. :)
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: hadacekf on April 23, 2010, 07:26:19 PM
Thank you for the wonderful pictures - Great work Maggi
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Otto Fauser on April 24, 2010, 03:32:03 PM
Thank you Maggi for sharing with us so many beautyful and desirable plants - if only one tenth of those would be available here in Australia - I would almost be in paradise  .

       Otto.
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 24, 2010, 06:17:22 PM
You have all those wonderful Banksias Otto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksia We just have Banksy. http://www.banksy.co.uk/
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Otto Fauser on May 01, 2010, 11:52:55 AM
You have all those wonderful Banksias Otto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksia We just have Banksy. http://www.banksy.co.uk/
[/Anthony , is this Banksy the one you are referring to ?This is a newspaper cutting that featured 2 days ago in 'The Age' ( a quality Melbourne broadsheet ) . If so  ,we not only have all these wonderful Banksias , but as well a few Banksy originals on the walls of some innercity buildings in some backlanes .
       Otto.quote]
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 01, 2010, 12:09:26 PM
My goodness, Banksy get about a bit!
Title: Re: Edinburgh and the Lothians show 2010
Post by: Otto Fauser on May 01, 2010, 03:05:21 PM
You have all those wonderful Banksias Otto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksia We just have Banksy. http://www.banksy.co.uk/
[/Anthony , is this Banksy the one you are referring to ?This is a newspaper cutting that featured 2 days ago in 'The Age' ( a quality Melbourne broadsheet ) . If so  ,we not only have all these wonderful Banksias , but as well a few Banksy originals on the walls of some innercity buildings in some backlanes .
       Otto.quote]
[/qforgot to post the newspaper cuttinguote]
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