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Title: Galanthus id help
Post by: granshelper on March 18, 2010, 01:03:58 PM
Hi everyone, Myself and my grandmother were moving some of her Galanthus she has labels beside her plants but this one has no label, has anyone any idea ?
thank you in advance.

Evelyn.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Maggi Young on March 18, 2010, 01:12:16 PM
Hi Evelyn, welcome to the Forum. Your picture was a bit too big to see clearly so I have re-sized it to 760 pixels wide and reposted it for you.

All I can tell you is that I know it's a snowdrop!! ;) ;D Not much help there, eh?

Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: granshelper on March 18, 2010, 01:13:48 PM
Hahaha thank you Maggi  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Alan_b on March 18, 2010, 01:26:53 PM
I doubt if anyone can help you with this one.  I think the marks on the outer petals are a bit broader than on a pure Galanthus nivalis. I think I see slight folding on the back of one of the leaves so probably a nivalis x plicatus hybrid.  Other than that I don't see any distinguishing features.   
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: granshelper on March 18, 2010, 06:43:51 PM
thanks Alan_b
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Gerard Oud on March 19, 2010, 07:17:54 AM
What about the good old S Arnott?
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 19, 2010, 10:24:15 AM
What about the good old S Arnott?

It looks nothing like 'S. Arnott'.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: mark smyth on March 19, 2010, 01:52:56 PM
This is the problem of trying to identify single mark hybrids
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Gerard Oud on March 19, 2010, 04:46:45 PM
What about the good old S Arnott?

It looks nothing like 'S. Arnott'.
Tell me which one then! It definitely looks like a hybrid maybe Magnet
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 19, 2010, 06:01:52 PM
What about the good old S Arnott?

It looks nothing like 'S. Arnott'.
Tell me which one then! It definitely looks like a hybrid maybe Magnet

Oh good grief!! It doesn't look anything like 'Magnet' either, and I'm not sure how to answer your demand for a cultivar name or your insistence that it must be a cultivar without causing offence - so I won't.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Gerard Oud on March 19, 2010, 06:11:37 PM
Youre right it could be anything Martin, but i feel not offended, just a bit dissapointed when one says it looks "nothing" like that, without proposing other possibillitys.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 19, 2010, 06:15:41 PM
Youre right it could be anything Martin, but i feel not offended, just a bit dissapointed when one says it looks "nothing" like that, without proposing other possibillitys.

Because, like Alan, I don't think there are other possibilities, and I can't just go trying to put a name on something I don't have any reason to believe has a name.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 19, 2010, 06:22:45 PM
And I said that it looks nothing like S Arnott because it looks nothing like S. Arnott. Sorry if that sounded impolite to you, but it's not an English phrase that is usually considered very rude.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: mark smyth on March 19, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
one problem is your photo shows a flower trapped behind all those leaves. Can you post a new photo?
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: art600 on March 19, 2010, 06:44:46 PM
Gerard one problem is your photo shows a flower trapped behind all those leaves. Can you post a new photo?

It was Evelyn who posted the 'mystery' snowdrop. 

It would be helpful Evelyn if you could post both a close-up of the flower (with mark) anf also the arrangement of the leaves.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: mark smyth on March 19, 2010, 06:49:09 PM
oops ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: granshelper on March 19, 2010, 08:39:44 PM
Hi again, i will take more photos tomorrow and post them.

Evelyn.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 19, 2010, 09:27:41 PM
Perhaps I should re-phrase my answer: The flowers are snowdrops, so technically speaking they don't look nothing like Arnott and Magnet - what I meant was that the marks look nothing like Arnott and Magnet marks.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 19, 2010, 09:32:20 PM
Apologies if I sound a bit irritable, but I think most people on the forum know by now that I'm not happy with the whole process of trying to put names to snowdrops found in gardens based purely on what cultivar they might bear a similarity to, without any reason to think that they ever were a named cultivar, especially, as Mark says, single-marked snowdrops with marks that look like a zillion other snowdrops.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Maggi Young on March 19, 2010, 09:46:58 PM
Apologies if I sound a bit irritable, but I think most people on the forum know by now that I'm not happy with the whole process of trying to put names to snowdrops found in gardens based purely on what cultivar they might bear a similarity to, without any reason to think that they ever were a named cultivar, especially, as Mark says, single-marked snowdrops with marks that look like a zillion other snowdrops.

I think we all understand that Martin... perhaps in this instance there has been a bit of confusion over English idioms which has lead to some frustration.
No harm done or taken, I'm sure.  ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Gerard Oud on March 20, 2010, 07:43:54 AM
No harm done Maggi, they need a platoon for that! ;D

By the way nice photo in your avatar!
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 20, 2010, 09:06:12 AM
this photo looks familiar http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Galanthus-single-hybrid-atkinsii-snowdrop-rare_W0QQitemZ320504157488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN?hash=item4a9f895530#ht_500wt_975 ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 20, 2010, 10:56:25 AM
this photo looks familiar http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Galanthus-single-hybrid-atkinsii-snowdrop-rare_W0QQitemZ320504157488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN?hash=item4a9f895530#ht_500wt_975 ;D

It does indeed! There are some cheeky sods around.
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: mark smyth on March 20, 2010, 11:28:15 AM
Thanks Davey.

I was looking at Ebay last night and didnt notice it there.

It's definitely not Atkinsii either
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: mark smyth on March 20, 2010, 11:29:31 AM
posting to Europe, Asia, United States, Australia, Canada !!
Title: Re: Galanthus id help
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2010, 07:17:36 PM
No harm done Maggi, they need a platoon for that! ;D

By the way nice photo in your avatar!

Thanks, Gerard!

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quote:daveyp .....this photo looks familiar

It does rather!
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