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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: LucS on March 14, 2010, 07:41:07 PM

Title: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: LucS on March 14, 2010, 07:41:07 PM: I received this little plant as scilla chamidoxa. It flowers now just above groundlevel with the leaves just expanding.
Can someone confirm/correct its name and tell me something more about it
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 14, 2010, 08:41:23 PM: What a little honey it is. :)
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 14, 2010, 09:16:59 PM: Luc, this look to me to be a simple Scilla bifolia.... but it may be a hybrid Chionoscilla.... and maybe that is what the name was supposed to mean... that the plant was a Scilla /Chionodoxa ::) ???
This could have looked on a label like 'chamidoxa', eh? :-\
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 15, 2010, 11:23:27 AM: As an afterthought... have a look at the photos from Yuri Pirogov of Scilla monanthos listed on the PBS forum.... here..
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2010-March/036431.html

" Scilla monanthos as seen a week before ( posted March 4th) near Sochi, winter olympic capital 2014.
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46945.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46944.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/46913.html

Yuri Pirogov
in Moscow "
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: LucS on March 16, 2010, 06:42:34 PM: Is scilla rosenii a possible ID ?
I find it strange that the one bulb never divided in the last 6-7 years.
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 16, 2010, 06:59:20 PM: When the flower is fully developed and in sunshine, does it reflex ( like a cyclamen or an erythronium), Luc? Scilla rosenii always does that here.... it does increase quite well though... :-\
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 16, 2010, 07:56:38 PM: My Scilla rosenii seedlings have only flowered once but did not reflex. The seed source was, I would have thought, impeccable. But maybe not. ???
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 16, 2010, 08:16:04 PM: As I've mentioned before, citing the RHS' Trials of these assorted scilla, chioodoxa etc which was titled the "small blue bulbs trial", the case seems to be that I am not the only person who has trouble sorting out these plants !

A familiar tale with so many genera, isn't it! :o ::) :-X
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Olga Bondareva on March 22, 2010, 05:47:54 AM: It is not S. rosenii. S. rosenii always turns up its petals. It flowers a little bit later than S. sibirica.

(http://cs1680.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/92164489/x_696719aa.jpg)

It is not S. nomanthos (= S. vinogradovii). S. monanthos flowers are very light blue with darker vein.

(http://cs9740.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_dc2a8f66.jpg)

(http://cs1252.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_be90247b.jpg)

(http://cs1935.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_05795205.jpg)

Low growth could be a result of conditions. The Scilla is one of Caucasian-Turkey scillas closely related to each other and to S. sibirica.

(http://cs9740.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/22340033/x_2e4afb73.jpg)

This scilla is so small only at the stony place in the beginning of blooming. Then it become usual.
Title: Re: Scilla chamidoxa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 22, 2010, 10:41:09 AM: Olga, what a pleasure it is to open this page and see your wonderful photographs, thank you!