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Title: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 11, 2010, 08:04:43 PM
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I find that Heliamphora is a perfect natural predator.
If I squeeze the beetles with my tweezers the Heliamphora accept them gratefully





What is Heliamphora please?
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
I think Fred's gone offline, Lesley... Heliamphora are pitcher plants of the un-lidded marshy type. South Americans, mostly, I think.
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: fredg on March 11, 2010, 08:13:46 PM
Well done Maggi  ;D

Heliamphora are carnivorous pitcher plants from the area of the Tepuis of the Guiana Highlands in Venezuela, Guyana and Brazil, some also occur in the Gran Sabana.

I'll show a shot of a single pitcher.  ;D
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2010, 08:24:51 PM
Does the top-lip-thingy secrete nectar and the insects go to that then fall in the pitcher ? Is that how it works?  Lovely colours on the pitcher. 
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: fredg on March 11, 2010, 08:34:34 PM
Exactly right Maggi.

The pitcher is filled with rain water, the level of which is controlled by a small drain hole, so the prey drowns.

I find they're not so good at it as Sarracenia, most of which do not hold rain water, most of those things can fill a pitcher with flies in no time.
That's when the plants sing in summer  :D
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2010, 08:36:45 PM
Do these have extravagant flowers like the Sarracenias do?
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: fredg on March 11, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
That would depend on your definition of exotic.
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 11, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
And very handsome it is too. I guess the lily beetle would have to wander by and fall in rather than the pitcher going out to look. ::)
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: johnw on March 11, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
And very handsome it is too. I guess the lily beetle would have to wander by and fall in rather than the pitcher going out to look. ::)

Speaking of pitcher plants, there was an interesting programme last week on the mad Nepenthes lowii on the CBC's Quirks & Quarks.  You can listen again at http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/09-10/qq-2010-02-20.html (http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/09-10/qq-2010-02-20.html).  Quite amazing the relationships that can develop.

johnw
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2010, 09:10:48 PM
Interesting link, John, thanks. The chap being interviewed completed his t PHD at Aberdeen, it seems! Small world, ain't it?
http://www.royalroads.ca/about-rru/the-university/staff-faculty-bios/m/jonathan-moran.htm
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 11, 2010, 10:14:34 PM
That's a great link John, I can actually make use of it inlike the BBC stuff which is blocked to overseas listeners/viewers.

I like the shrew item. It reminds me, remember Maggi? of the time in the Old Forum when someone posted an item about a sculptor I think, who had made a series of lavatory bowls in the shapes and colours of various flowers such as lilies, arums etc. Very beautiful they were too. ;D
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: fredg on March 11, 2010, 10:24:37 PM
Is this the sculptor?

http://www.clarkmade.com/urinals.html

 :o ::)
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
Lesley, a new garden centre has just opened in Anberdeen and the Gents toilets are equipped with these very urinals! It's true! This was the link:
http://www.clarkmade.com/show.html

 
They have an arum and arisaema (causing my chum Anne Chambers to email me in fury that her favourite flower was being so abused!!)and an orchid as well, from the photo that was ifeatured in press coverage. Ian plans to visit soon with his camera.... so the next Bulb Log will likely be posted from his prison cell!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8547336.stm   : story and photo

I think that Dobbies have been using these in all their new stores!
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Tony Willis on March 11, 2010, 11:21:33 PM
I understand we have them in our new large local garden centre but on my only visit I did not feel the need and so cannot confirm this.
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 12, 2010, 12:48:31 AM
That's the one Fred. Thanks for the link. Aren't they stunning?

And thanks too to you Maggi. Well done Aberdeen. I never would have thought it of the sober Scots from that grey city. Shame they're all urinals and only for gents threrefore. Most of those would be pretty hard to sit on, especially the daffodil and the pink orchid! ;D

I think I'd be going to have a look anyway Tony. Have to get a man friend to stand on guard outside the door. ;D
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: johnw on March 12, 2010, 02:39:51 AM
That's the one Fred. Thanks for the link. Aren't they stunning?

What, no Venus Fly Traps?

A long way from Lily Beetles I fear.

johnw
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: ranunculus on March 12, 2010, 03:12:02 AM
That's the one Fred. Thanks for the link. Aren't they stunning?

What, no Venus Fly Traps?

A long way from Lily Beetles I fear.

johnw

Mainly 'bog' plants, John!   :D
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 12, 2010, 11:03:39 AM
When I get a moment I'll tidy up the thread! Give it a hose down with some bleach....
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: johnw on March 12, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
Mainly 'bog' plants, John!   :D

Good one!   ;D

johnw
Title: Re: Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles
Post by: Maggi Young on March 12, 2010, 12:09:18 PM
Digression from Cultivation problem thread re lily beetles:  chat re pitcher plants and fancy urinals given new home!

 
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