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Title: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 09, 2010, 10:26:26 PM
I've never shown this before. My Pulsatilla has over 50 flowers every year which leaves too much dead material each winter. I get rid of it by burning it  :o :o The fast burn doesnt damage the new growth. I do the same with some of my Geraniums also.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 09, 2010, 11:04:42 PM
Seems a bit extreme though. Surely a quick trim over would be as effective?
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 09, 2010, 11:07:05 PM
So far it hasnt done them any harm. It's all over in 30 seconds or less. Shows also how dry it's been here.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 10, 2010, 12:21:14 AM
Total fire ban here but of course it's late summer and VERY dry.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Susan Band on March 10, 2010, 07:45:22 AM
Good idea Mark, I think I might get a bit carried away though. Spent yesterday burning Gorse on the hill, great fun.
Susan
PS you should plant some south African plants next to it :)
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: gote on March 10, 2010, 09:54:03 AM
In some parts of Sweden people tend to burn the dry grass from last year in the early spring.
As a result, the fire brigade have to extinguish a number of fires that have grown out of hand.
The belief is that this makes it easier for the new grass. I tested the belief and it is a fallacy.
Since the old grass is gone, the new grass is VISIBLE earlier as greenery BUT
The grass grew better where there had been no fire. There seem to have been some kind of heat damage.
Pulsatillas and Geraniums gropwn under controlled circumstances may be an entirely different case.
If Mark can see no damage I believe in his assesment.
Cheers
Göte
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 10, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Susan! what about nesting blackbirds, thrushes and linnets?
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: David Shaw on March 10, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
I am sure that Susan is aware of any nesting birds on her field, but did you know that this is the legal time of year for this operation? In Scotland burning of vegetation, muir burn, is allowed between 1 October and 15 April even though this is well into the nesting season.
Even if the hills were not still deep in snow I would not expect to see heather being burned on the grouse moors until the end of this month.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Susan Band on March 10, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
yes I am thinking of the birds thats why I am doing it now. Don't worry there are still plenty of Gorse bushes left. I also planted about 1 km of hedges which are well used by everything you mention plus others.
Susan
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 10, 2010, 11:29:56 AM
1km of hedge is a brilliant idea when you think so many farmers are ripping them out. The local biodiversity office has hedges in the action plan but farmers dont listen. Only recently a local farmer cut down all his hedges and put up a barbed wire fence
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 10, 2010, 08:02:54 PM
I'd be terribly tempted to become an arsonist if fires were permitted here at present. There's so much gorse, broom, long, dead grass and other stuff for miles around but once I started I'd probably have fires to meet up with the remains of the Mt Allan fire of a week or so ago. Fire leaves such a clean sheet but of course is difficult to control even in the best of circumstances.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 10, 2010, 08:08:10 PM
I'm a fire starter, twisted fire starter
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Maggi Young on March 10, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
When I think of the number of Pulsatilla shoots I have pulled off a plant in error when trying to simply pull away the old foliage, I cannot imagine that I could do more damage by using Mark's quick fire method. Getting the old foliage dry enough to burn fast might be tricky.... some time under a cover ,perhaps, though that might draw on the new growth too much and risk hurting that.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 10, 2010, 08:43:31 PM
I would like a day of rain please  ::)
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Susan Band on March 11, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
Now I think of it did people not set alight to their Pampas Grass when it was popular to have one in the middle of the lawn. I think mum also took a notion to burning Iris leaves at one time.
We have gone from 3 days of sleet/snow and flooding to 2 weeks of dry, I am having to take water to the horses who usually drink collected rain water. I am not complaining though, once the frost gets out of the ground I will get cultivating.
Susan
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: mark smyth on March 11, 2010, 05:56:55 PM
Yes Maggi I have also broken off pulsatilla growing points.

I saw a blackened Pampas a few week ago.
Title: Re: Burning old stem build up
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 11, 2010, 07:44:14 PM
Near to us is a large planting of native Chionochloa species (a sort of refined and elegant pampas, in effect) beside a motorway underpass. Some idiot has probably thrown out his cigarette butt and the planting has burned for about 30 sq metres. That was before Christmas. Only the apparently dead stumps remain but the area is covered with a green carpet of dandelion, chickweed et al. No sign of new growth in the Chionochloa, though a good rain might encourage something.

We've had rain overnight but the temperature has plummeted and it feels like winter already. There's to be snow in the south later today. ???
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