Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
General Subjects => Alpines => Topic started by: kiwi on March 06, 2010, 07:46:21 AM
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Another glorious day in the Southern Alps.
Leucogenes grandiceps and Dave getting close up.
Leptinella atrata.
Ranunculus haastii in seed.
Baby seedlings of Haastia recurva and Raoulia eximia.
Raoulia subsericea?
Dolichoglottis scorzoneroides.
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Another Shot of Dolichoglottis.
Gentiana Sp.- thought it was divisa but not sure now Ive checked the Mills and Boon?
A mountain critter.
Aciphylla montana.
Drosera arcturi?
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Great plants Doug, and excellent pictures. I especially like your first ranunculus (1156) & first dolichoglottis (1167). Thanks for taking us along ;)
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I love baby pictures.... and they don't come much cuter than this one shown above....I repeat it cos it's so adorable!!
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Great Day Doug ---thanks for the company.
Parent shots are aren't too bad either Maggie :D--(admittedly another species).
Doug spied a bit of greenery way up high on a ledge --i was able to impress him with the 20x zoom function on my point and shoot camera and at it's maximum without a tripod i managed to get a reasonable shot of Anisotome pilifera .
Bums --oops--- Buns ahoy --Sorry mate ::) ;)
Cheers dave.
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Classic Dave, maybe if i had been wearing green i would have got away with that one!
love that first shot, perfect angle! Love that zoom also, my camera wouldn't touch that one!
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What a beautiful plant is Raoulia!!!!! I've never seen something like that...is it from out of space? :o ;D
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You can see why they're called "vegetable sheep" Hans, and why many a farmer has been known to send his dogs out to round them up, when doing the autumn muster. ;D
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Nice photos guys,
Here are a couple of youtube videos I made of alpine carnivorous plants
Utricularia dichotoma at Arthurs Pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFSG_LI_88I
Drosera stenopetala also at Arthurs Pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLb-J4aPDQ
a photo of Drosera stenopetala this is only found in New Zealand, unlike most of the other carnivorous plants, which we also share with Australia.
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I'd like to see what Mark McD might do with these. I can imagine the plants reaching, grasping then gulping down and burping as unwary plant photographers strayed too close. ;D
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Great shots Doug and Dave! I'll go with Maggi on this one, that's the cutest little baby Raoulia I've ever seen, must be 30 or more individual rosettes within the size of a fingernail, just imagine the number of rosettes in Dave's Daddy Raoulia :o :o :o
And I love Leptinella atrata, all of these have my head spinning. :)
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That little baby could be as much as 10 years old or even more! The largest ones can be hundreds of years.
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Took the family up the waima river in Marlborough to see the Sawcut gorge.
Secretly I was there to photograph the beautiful Wahlenbergia matthewsii and I wasn't disappointed.
I know we've had a couple of postings from this spot over the years but its just so incredible I have to show you all again!!!
Another critter lurking at our lunch stop.
Could someone out there explain this shot, is this a paracite plant growing from this Kowhai or has someone grafted it on?
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Hi Doug,
Nice pictures of Wahlenbergia mathewsii; the reflection off the limestone makes photography challenging. If I go back to the Waima again I hope the day will be overcast!
The plant on the kowhai is the mistletoe Ileostylus micranthus. It is fairly commonperhaps the most common of the New Zealand mistletoes though I have not seen it on kowhai before.
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Yesterday I visited Te Papanui Conservation Park. It is a large inland plateau west of Dunedin and slightly further south than the Rock and Pillar Range. It is covered in snow tussock (Chionochloa rigida) and has extensive wetlands where all the interesting plants are found. The snow tussocks are very efficient at trapping water and the area is the source of most of the City of Dunedin's water. It is high, misty and cold being exposed to all the southerly weather. It is not a good idea to go walking there in when it is foggy. Early in the day a small front came through and it got a bit wet and cold. It then improved and was quite pleasant before a second front arrived. At this stage we retreated.
1 View of the headwaters of the Taieri River from near Lammerlaw Top. Altitude is about 1100 metres. Small wetland with tarns is typical of the area.
2. A small tarn with Gentianella amabilis growing in the wetland.
3. Gentianella amabilis
4. Nertera balfouriana
5. Lobelia angulata (formerly Pratia angulata)
6. Gaultheria depressa var novae-zelandiae with tiny Cladonia lichens.
7. Agyrotegium mackayi (formerly Gnaphalium mackayi)
8 Euphrasia dyeri.
9. The orchid Prasophyllum colensoi. This species is widespread and not confined to the subalpine zone.
10. Some tiny mushrooms growing in the bog.
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Is the Nertera usually that yellow colour David? I remember seeing it at Tekapo once, the pear-shaped berries were orange I thought. Is this area somowhere up near the Moss Swamp?
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Lesley,
I would describe the colour in my photo as more orange than yellow. There are two other species of Netera that occur in subalpine regions, Nertera scapanioides with pear-shaped fruit and Nertera depressa with round fruit. The former apparently has reddish orange fruit and the latter orange to red so colour is likely to be quite variable.
As an aside to our Scottish friends, Nertera balforiana is named after Professor I.B. Balfour, keeper of the Edinburgh Botanic Garden.
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Thanks David. I grow N. depressa and the fruit though very numerous are much smaller than N. balfouriana. Must try that some time. I love all those little crawling species with brightly coloured berries.
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Thanks David. I grow N. depressa and the fruit though very numerous are much smaller than N. balfouriana. Must try that some time. I love all those little crawling species with brightly coloured berries.
something in this group is sold here as a 'houseplant' and they are charming indeed with their orange berries; i doubt they are easy/possible to keep indoors?? and are likely in that category of decorative plant sold as a slightly longer lasting alternative to cut flowers!
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Cohan,
Here are two species growing under forest in shaded conditions, Nertera depressa and Nertera villosa. Nertera depressa also grows in more open sites and probably would tolerate growing indoors. Nertera is closely allied to Coprosma; the main difference is that Nertera species are not woody. I have included two species of small Coprosmas for comparison.
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I have included two species of small Coprosmas for comparison.
David, those Coprosma species are delightful, the fruits or drupes so tight and nearly enveloped by the mat. I grew a couple Coprosma species when I lived in the milder Pacific Northwest (near Seattle, Washington), including a montane Hawaiian species collected by Roy Davidson, but this was decades ago.
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Cohan,
Here are two species growing under forest in shaded conditions, Nertera depressa and Nertera villosa. Nertera depressa also grows in more open sites and probably would tolerate growing indoors. Nertera is closely allied to Coprosma; the main difference is that Nertera species are not woody. I have included two species of small Coprosmas for comparison.
thanks, david--these are great little plants; shade tolerance is good for indoor plants..i wonder about temperature needs and moisture--the ones i see (sorry, not sure of the species, very tiny with many dozens of berries in a 3-4 inch pot) don't look like they would appreciate warm dry air or dry roots? maybe capillary watering?
next time i see them i will take a closer look..i can't remember now if they sell them here in winter or summer..
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I think the species generally seen sold as a house plant is Nertera granadensis
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Mark,
Was your Hawaiian Coprosma a creeping mat or a shrub? The pictures I found of Coprosma montana from Hawaii showed it to be a shrub with bright red or yellow berries.
Cohan,
Nertera depressa or something very similar is widely distributed (Australia, South Pacific, South Ameria, Hawaii). In view of this distribution different forms are likely to have varying habitat preferences and requirements.
Maggi,
Following on from my previous comment Nertera granadensis (Mexico, Guatemala) is very similar to Nertera depressa and may or may not be the same species. Allan made a comment to this effect in Vol 1 of the NZ Flora which was published in 1961. Where the commercial plants were originally sourced is anyones guess. May be some one will be able to come up with some more information. New Zealand has about half the worlds known species of Nertera. (about 7) It is the same for Coprosma (about 50) the majority of which are woody shrubs.
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Mark,
Was your Hawaiian Coprosma a creeping mat or a shrub? The pictures I found of Coprosma montana from Hawaii showed it to be a shrub with bright red or yellow berries.
Hard to quantify, as I remember it, it was a compact woody species, more shrub-like and upright than a mat. It was treated as a tender plant, grown on a windowsill. It was a Coprosma "sp".
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N granadensis looks about right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nertera_granadensis
as i thought, they mention its not that easy as a houseplant--wanting to be cool without frost, and not too wet, but not too dry...lol
that link also mentions a trans-continental distribution--south america, new zealand etc
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Doug and David,
thank you for another fascinating field trip with so many exciting unknown plants to me :o 8) 8)
I could only read and google ;D
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N. depressa, the only one I have, grows in a pot in sun but needs lots of water or it dies off quickly. The seeds germinate freely though.
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Mark,
Was your Hawaiian Coprosma a creeping mat or a shrub? The pictures I found of Coprosma montana from Hawaii showed it to be a shrub with bright red or yellow berries.
Hard to quantify, as I remember it, it was a compact woody species, more shrub-like and upright than a mat. It was treated as a tender plant, grown on a windowsill. It was a Coprosma "sp".
I have been looking on the internet and found another species of Coprosma that may be the plant you grew. It is Coprosma ernodeoides and has black fruit. It is described as prostate with ascending lateral branches that grow up to 20cm. It looks to be a very distinctive and interesting plant.
We have many Coprosma "sp" here in NZ as the majority of them are small-leaved divaricating shrubs that are difficult to identify and frequently hybridise. I find identifying many of our NZ species a challenge.