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SRGC Shows and Events => Events => Topic started by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2010, 07:54:39 PM
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February 27 EARLY SPRING SHOW, Mark Hall School, First Avenue, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9LR.
Safe journey to the Channel Hoppers and all the visitors and exhibitors who will be making their way to Harlow tomorrow for the Show.... hope the weather and traffic is kind to you all and that some will have photos to share!
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Thank you Maggi - looks like it might be a bit windy tomorrow.. :-\ ;)
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Will look forward to this event as usuall and hope to post some photos too.
Eric
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Show today was good but with fewer entries than normal,the weather certainly didn"t help.
Attendance also was well down this year ,but it was nice to meet up with Luc Gilgemyn for the first time.
Eric
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For me the highlight of the show was also the smallest entry.
Australian Terrestial Orchid Corybas Diementicus.
Eric
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Wearing a beautiful bonnet but where are the eyes, nose and mouth? :)
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I think she needs a fringe cut Lesley. ;)
Eric
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Corrin, another of the many Trym seedlings now appearing.
Eric
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Hope that everyone got back from the show safely; the M11 was awash when I was heading back although by the time I reached the A120 the road was dry and sunny. I drove nice and slow up the A12 as there is a steep back stuffed with snowdrops by the road just before the Suffolk border.
Met Arthur (Art600), a very friendly chatty man, but missed the other forumists.
Like Eric I thought the Corybas was one of the highlights but also enjoyed Amands display on Iris reticulata cultivars and pretty well all the show plants! Most popular snowdrop seems to be 'Sophie North' with four or five good potfuls.
Harlow Show
Amand's iris display.
Colchicum kesselringii at Harlow.
Crocus etruscus at Harlow
Flower arrangement at Harlow
G. nivalis 'Lutescens' at Harlow
G. nivalis 'Walrus' at Harlow
Galanthus 'Sophie North' at Harlow.
Oxalis palmifrons
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Great pictures Gail. I'm scratching around for something for Loughborough next week and having seen what was at Harlow Brian and I are definitely only going for the beer.
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The Iris display.... is it by Jacques AMAND bulbs? Wondering if there is a new company I haven't heard of?
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The Iris display.... is it by Jacques AMAND bulbs? Wondering if there is a new company I haven't heard of?
Yes Maggi you are right. Sorry, my fingers and brain rarely work in unison....
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Not to worry, Gail! I know the feeling only too well myself.
Many thanks for your photos from the show, by the way!
Eric, who could resist that cute Corybas? Thank goodness for magnification on cameras, eh?!!
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Eric,
G. 'Corrin' strikes me as lovely snowdrop. Nice of you to post it.
Paddy
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We know Luc G arrived at Harlow...... did he get home again safely?
Aha! He is online and has just posted in an Iris thread..... so he seems safe home!
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He did Maggi ! ;D ;D And so did Luc S. :D
Very busy day today, so no time to sort out pix yet !
We had a great day once again and despite the entries being a bit down (that was no surprise after the long and cold winter :-\ ) we enjoyed the show very much. Obviously we were quite happy to meet some old and new forum friends once again and catch up with the latest "news"... ;D
For some reason, this week's incident in the European parliament with our belgian "European president" and the british "politician" brought along quite some laughs... ;D :D ;)
Anyway, I hope to post some pix tomorrow and/or tuesday to continue Gail's efforts !
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I suppose the Gilgemyn "fortune" was further depleted? ;D
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I'm afraid so Mr Nicholson... the Ferry is quite expensive, and then there were some other "en route" expenses made... ;D ;D
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I'm afraid so Mr Nicholson... the Ferry is quite expensive, and then there were some other "en route" expenses made... ;D ;D
Not forgetting the plant purchases of coarse. ;)
Eric
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.... and bags of John Innes!
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.... and bags of John Innes!
What would our Trade Balance be without regular visits from The Belgian forumists :) ;) :)
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I'm afraid so Mr Nicholson... the Ferry is quite expensive, and then there were some other "en route" expenses made... ;D ;D
Not forgetting the plant purchases of coarse. ;)
Eric
Absolutely Eric !!! ... and plant purchases require John Innes compost as David has correctly stated... etc... etc... and all this added up results in a huge boost of the british trade balance as Art observed so vigilantly... ;)
The british government is heavily indebted to the AGS for organising the shows and to the SRGC forum for spreading the word !! ;D
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Thanks for posting some great photos, Gail, from the AGS Harlow Show. The quality of the plants looks terrific and I love Oxalis palmifrons - I wonder if is it hardy ::)
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Rob Potterton has it down as being not reliably hardy.
http://www.pottertons.co.uk/pott/view_product.php?pid=717
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Thanks Mick, I do like Oxalis and this one has an exquisite leaf.
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Thanks Mick, I do like Oxalis and this one has an exquisite leaf.
Robin, my Palmifrons lives all year in a frost-free (only just ) greenhouse all year with no problems.
Eric
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Eric, would love to see a photo of your Palmifrons or have you posted it in another thread before?
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Eric, would love to see a photo of your Palmifrons or have you posted it in another thread before?
Robin I will have to have a look to see if has recovered from underwatering :-[ as it looked a little sad over the weekend. Am very busy, as every spare moment at this time of the year I am trying to pot up all my Pleione before they start to flower and the other plants tend to be neglected for a while. Not posted a photo before but I have had it for a while.
Eric
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Oh Robin, if only I'd known, Pam could have taken some bulbs for you. Oxalis palmifrons is quite hardy to -
10C 6C in New Zealand, as is the delightful O. massoniana. Mainly the former is grown for its foliage because so far as I can tell, the only person to flower it well is Bill Dijk in Tauranga (Tecophilaea Addict on the Forum). Alberto Castillo says the bulbs of species that seem not to flower should be put in dark or even black paper bags and "cooked" in a very warm place through the summer. I'm trying that this year with OO. palmifrons and melanosticta (syn. purpurea 'Ken Aslet.')
Sorry I put -10, I was thinking of something else. All the same I think that wouldn't be far out as it is grown in Central Otago which has a much harder winter than I do, near Dunedin. Central has to -15 reasonably often.
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Eric you mentioned yours being a little sad through being dry. I find this species if not well watered will dry off very quickly indeed and though it always comes up again and the early drying obviously doesn't hurt it, that in itself may be a factor in its usually poor or non-existent flowering. I mean that if it were kept growing longer, it may be more inclined to flower better. I know that Bill's is kept in growth much longer, maybe 2 or 3 months, than mine.
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Such unusual pretty foliage, thanks for posting the photo of your Oxalis palmifrons Lesley - maybe another time ::)
Good luck with potting up your Pleione in time Eric - something else to look forward too :)
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Further to comments on hardiness of Oxalis palmifrons ..... does not survive outside with us in eastern England and this winter the leaves were quite badly frosted in our alpine house and bulb tunnels - no heat in any, temperature lowest of -12. I like the plant for its attractive leaves but has disappointing flowers that seldom appear.
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Better late than never, but here are some more pictures from the Harlow show !
1-2-3-4 : some views of the hall and the benches
5) & 6 : a very nice 6 pan entry
7) Adonis amurensis fukujakai - catching some sunshine !
8 Daubenya marginata
9) Fritillaria euboica
10) Mammillaria plumosa
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Next batch :
For the croconuts :
1) Crocus corsicus
2) Crocus etruscus
3) Crocus malyi
4) Crocus vernus neopolitanus
Some Dionysia's now - far less than in other years :
5) Dionysia afghanica
6) and 7) : 2 three pan entries of Dionysia
8- Dionysia x Amethyst
9) Dionysia freitagii
10) Saxifraga x goringana - if I'm not mistaken, the only Saxifraga on the show !
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Next batch with some white flowers first... ;)
1) Galanthus "Ketton"
2) Galanthus "Peg Sharples"
3) Galanthus plicatus "Augustus"
4) Galanthus - a three pan entry with G. "S. Arnott" at the back
5) Iris reticulata 'Palm Springs' - not quite as dark as in the picture, but quite a striking colour anyway !
6) Hepatica japonica - a three pan entry
7) H. jap. "Urihime" - close, from the above entry.
8- Narcissus romieuxii "Julia Jane"
9) Primula x "Norton"
10) Primula - a 3 pan entry - I believe these were the only Primula's on the show...
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Last batch :
1) Ornithogalum lanceolatum
2) Amana edulis
3) Helleborus tibetanus
4) Hepatica japonica - a very nice one I thought !
5 - 6 - 7 : Some exquisite Cyclamen alpinum !
8) so pure : Cyclamen coum "Golan Heights"
9) Cyclamen coum "Tilebarn Elisabeth"
That's it from me folks !!
Here's looking forward to Kent ! ;)
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Great report ,Luc.
Paddy
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So few primulas and only ONE saxifraga!
Extraordinary!
I wonder which show will reap the benefit of the slow start to the season when all the other show plants catch up? :o
Some lovely fat cyclamen there, Luc.... very nice to see them.
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Nice photos Luc.
That large pan of Crocus Vernus Neapolitanus was superb and I must remember to try this variety sometime. :P
Eric
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I really like that one too Eric.
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I really like that one too Eric.
My photo from the show of c vernus neapolitanus, which unfortunately is slightly out of focus.
Eric
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Better late than never, but here are some more pictures from the Harlow show !
5) & 6 : a very nice 6 pan entry
Luc,
what a dream! I always look forward to the pictures of the shows.
On picture No 6, the first plant. Can you tell the name?
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[quote author=Onion link=topic=5068.msg139705#msg139705 date=126765231
Luc,
what a dream! I always look forward to the pictures of the shows.
On picture No 6, the first plant. Can you tell the name?
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Uli, I think that plant is Gymnospermium albertii
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Glad the pictures are of interest everybody :D !
Thanks for helping out with the name Maggi ! ;)
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Luc, what a great photo report with some absolutely lovely entries heralding Spring. So many favourites but Dionysia afghanica is very special - thanks for transporting us virtually to the AGS Harlow Show 8)
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Hi Luc
You will have to count better before you come to Kent. There were two large pots and four very small pots of Saxifrage.
The Saxifraga x goringana is not the correct name, The Sax shown is more likely S. Poluniniana x S. Winifred.
S. goringana is S. Winifred x S. cinerea and there are only two cultivars S. Nancye & S. Anna Beddall
The other large Sax was S. Allendale Elegance which is S. lilacina x S. lowndesii
Look forward to seeing you at The Kent Show
David
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Sorry I put the wrong picture in
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[quote author=Onion link=topic=5068.msg139705#msg139705 date=126765231
Luc,
what a dream! I always look forward to the pictures of the shows.
On picture No 6, the first plant. Can you tell the name?
Uli, I think that plant is Gymnospermium albertii
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Thank you Maggi.
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I stand corrected David ! ;D ;D Too much talking... not enough time to look at the plants.. ::)
Actually, it might be a formidable task trying to count them at the Kent show ;D ;D
See you there !
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c vernus neapolitanus
This plant has been exhibited at Caerleon as C reticulatus and at Harlow as above.
I have several accessions which are very similar/the same. None of them is correctly named and neither are the plants pictured! Crocus napolitanus is an invalid synonym for Crocus vernus ssp vernus. It is typically purple with waxy petals, larger than the flowers on the bench and one of my favourites. The plant on the benches is a very vigorous but otherwise poor form of Crocus vernus, probably ssp albiflorus. It is offered in SRGC seed-ex most years as C reticulatus. (One for Maggi to pass on to the Seed-ex guys!)
Note the spelling Napolitanus, no 'e'.
Pictured below for reference:
Crocus vernus albiflorus - similar to the form as seen at shows
Crocus reticulatus
Crocus vernus vernus 'Napolitanus'
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c vernus neapolitanus
The plant on the benches is a very vigorous but otherwise poor form of Crocus vernus, probably ssp albiflorus.
Tony
Why do you say 'poor form' ??? I and several other forumists think it is rather attractive, and would like it in our collections.
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Its a poor form when compared to better ones! Rather narrow petalled and small flowered, rather a waif than a stunning beauty. It does well in the garden so it has some redeeming qualities.
Here are a few forms of Crocus vernus albiflorus that I consider better!
From various locations in the alps. The last one I especially like.
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Well as it is said "It takes all sorts ....."
Do like the last vernus, but for entirely different reasons.
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Well as it is said "It takes all sorts ....."
Do like the last vernus, but for entirely different reasons.
Yes, thats what makes it so much fun. :-*
And, Crocus vernus in the broadest sense is rather like a bag of liquorice allsorts .... many very different looking things all with something in common genetically.
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Well as it is said "It takes all sorts ....."
Do like the last vernus, but for entirely different reasons.
Yes, thats what makes it so much fun. :-*
And, Crocus vernus in the broadest sense is rather like a bag of liquorice allsorts .... many very different looking things all with something in common genetically.
Thanks for your input Tony, but I still prefer the form on the Harlow showbench.
Eric
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I do too Eric. I like Tony's as well, but as quite separate forms, not to be compared. The Harlow one is very attractive for its striping and the "spikiness' of the petals. It looks very good in a clump or potful.
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c vernus neapolitanus
This plant has been exhibited at Caerleon as C reticulatus and at Harlow as above.
I have several accessions which are very similar/the same. None of them is correctly named and neither are the plants pictured! Crocus napolitanus is an invalid synonym for Crocus vernus ssp vernus....It is offered in SRGC seed-ex most years as C reticulatus. (One for Maggi to pass on to the Seed-ex guys!)
Thanks for this information, Tony!
I hope to get a flower on C. reticulatus grown from Seedex seed (SRGC? or AGS?) this year and will try to remember to compare it with your pics!
cheers
fermi