Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Hristo on February 19, 2010, 05:42:41 PM
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A warm day here has bought Fessia greilhuberi ;) ;) into flower.
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Okay - not one I've heard of, a scilla relative??
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This was a naughty one Gail, this is Scilla greilhuberi according to the Kew Checklist but there are major proposals afoot to split Scilla up into various new genera, I'm getting into gear now!!! :D
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I still hadn't heard of the species but at least the genus name is familiar! :D
Congratulations on your forward thinking!
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This was a naughty one Gail, this is Scilla greilhuberi according to the Kew Checklist but there are major proposals afoot to split Scilla up into various new genera, I'm getting into gear now!!! :D
I've seen the proposed split up of the genus (can't put my fingers on it right now though), creating a bunch of new genera each with one to a few species each, and a few others reassigned to other existing genera ???
A break-up such as this, then creating a number of monotypic genera seems absurd.
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i was thinking scilla-ish..is it tiny, or are those leaves long?
i think i saw this genus split up on pacific bulb society website..
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i think i saw this genus split up on pacific bulb society website..
Yes, I'm on that forum, and that's where I was searching, I can find the commentary, but not the actual proposed taxonomy. I'm still looking.
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Cohan, the flower stalk of this one is abnormally short and may lengthen later. Normally, for us, they get to 20cm tall.
Mark, the split does actually make some sense. We grow quite a few different 'Scilla', and the only thing some of them have in common is their colour.
'Sinchets' is bulgarian for Scilla bifolia- it is a diminutive of the word for blue- it can also be used to describe other plants, which aren't Scilla bifolia, but are also blue. ;)
This is the link you need
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-December/016258.html (http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-December/016258.html)
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It will mean MORE bulbs we can't import or their seeds. Blast the taxonomists. >:(
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Lesley, get em in now before the Kew checklist changes!
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Lesley, get em in now before the Kew checklist changes!
Too late, the Kew checklist has Fessia
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/qsearch.do;jsessionid=C9704EBEE1CD081FDCD40240B371823D (http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/qsearch.do;jsessionid=C9704EBEE1CD081FDCD40240B371823D)
quite a lot of changes in the area of Muscari/Scilla/Hyacinth- us -ella -oides
Chionodoxa and Galtonia gone, Pseudomuscari is back after disappearing for a while, Prospero and Barnardia appearing.
Sorry Lesley!
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LOL,Super stuff Diane!
Lesley, given they allowed these seeds in under, for example Scilla greilhuberi can't one just explain that the name has changed but the plants haven't suddenly become kiwi eating triffids? ???
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LOL,Super stuff Diane!
Lesley, given they allowed these seeds in under, for example Scilla greilhuberi can't one just explain that the name has changed but the plants haven't suddenly become kiwi eating triffids? ???
or, can't you just have them shipped under the old name?
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Good one Cohan, now that would be even easier! Unless the regulatory authorities are unusually efficient and up to date in all things taxonomic and will not allow stuff in on the basis of taxonomic sloth maybe?
( Taxonomic sloth does not live in Madagascar or eat vegetation :D :D )
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Good one Cohan, now that would be even easier! Unless the regulatory authorities are unusually efficient and up to date in all things taxonomic and will not allow stuff in on the basis of taxonomic sloth maybe?
( Taxonomic sloth does not live in Madagascar or eat vegetation :D :D )
i think i saw that one on the discovery channel--it has latin and greek names growing on the long hair instead of algae!
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Lesley, given they allowed these seeds in under, for example Scilla greilhuberi can't one just explain that the name has changed but the plants haven't suddenly become kiwi eating triffids? ???
That's what we'll have to do. But also have to supply taxonomic references to prove it.
That's a possibility too Cohan but pesky to have to ask suppliers to add old names to their packets as well as the new.
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Lesley, given they allowed these seeds in under, for example Scilla greilhuberi can't one just explain that the name has changed but the plants haven't suddenly become kiwi eating triffids? ???
That's what we'll have to do. But also have to supply taxonomic references to prove it.
That's a possibility too Cohan but pesky to have to ask suppliers to add old names to their packets as well as the new.
a drag either way :(
here i can bring most kinds of seeds in freely, but rarely consider plants or bulbs since cost of phytos and cites where applicable make the cost high, and most vendors dont ship here anyway, or have minimums of $100 or more (rare exceptions)..would be ok at commercial level (and garden centres are full of mass produced commercial stuff from u.s. and holland), but at personal level, too expensive, usually....