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Title: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Oron Peri on January 28, 2010, 10:12:38 AM
First two species are in bloom at the moment:
O. chionophilum, endemic to Cyprus with lovely contrast of glaucus leaves
The second is O. sibthorpii from SE Turkey, both will flower for at least 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: TheOnionMan on January 28, 2010, 02:27:34 PM
First two species are in bloom at the moment:
O. chionophilum, endemic to Cyprus with lovely contrast of glaucus leaves
The second is O. sibthorpii from SE Turkey, both will flower for at least 3 weeks.

Oron, nice dwarf ornithogalums (particularly O. chionophilum).  It's interesting how O. chionophilum has the general look and aspect of Allium chamaemoly.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on January 28, 2010, 03:37:32 PM
Very nice Oron.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 28, 2010, 08:11:27 PM
Yes, very nice Oron .
I did never see the first in Cyprus.Is this a  plant of the  high mountains?
In previous years sibthorpii is already in flower here. But due cold winter it is not in flower yet.
We did see sibthorpii in the Peloponesos.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Oron Peri on January 28, 2010, 08:33:22 PM
Hi Kris

O. chionophilum is quite a common species in Cyprus, it grows from 700-1950m,
generally it starts blooming late February.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 06, 2010, 05:59:31 PM
I named this Ornithogalum as O. oligophyllum (using Flora of Turkey) but I'm something doubtfull about name. In any case - very beautiful and this year the earliest.
Janis
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on April 12, 2010, 10:52:02 PM
this Ornithogalum to be of small dimensions
Ornithogalum graminifolium
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2010, 11:30:36 PM
Ornithogalum fimbriatum, from Janis.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on April 15, 2010, 10:25:24 PM
Ornithogalum unifoliatum

Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Tony Willis on May 15, 2010, 06:18:45 PM
Ornithogalum reverchonii from Spain which is a magnificent species about 45cms tall
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Gail on May 16, 2010, 09:41:50 AM
That's lovely Tony - would it do okay out in the garden?
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Tony Willis on May 16, 2010, 10:11:07 AM
Gail certainly not where I live,far to wet,it needs a dry summer rest. I have some spare if you want to try it.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: fermi de Sousa on May 17, 2010, 03:31:57 AM
Gail certainly not where I live,far to wet,it needs a dry summer rest. I have some spare if you want to try it.
Does it set seed, Tony? He asked hopefully, ::)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Gail on May 17, 2010, 06:57:38 AM
Yes please!  :) I'll send a PM.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Tony Willis on May 17, 2010, 04:10:25 PM
Gail certainly not where I live,far to wet,it needs a dry summer rest. I have some spare if you want to try it.
Does it set seed, Tony? He asked hopefully, ::)
cheers
fermi

I have not tried for seed in previous years but it has now had a very active afternoon with a paintbrush! Time will tell.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: cohan on May 21, 2010, 06:42:23 AM
this Ornithogalum to be of small dimensions
Ornithogalum graminifolium

nice to see these small ones, alessandro--i have a couple of potfuls of south africans coming from seed--one was an unnamed sp  with 'beautiful leaves' i thought that meant one of the dark and/or pustulate forms or something--so far it looks similar to your graminifolia! just sown this year; the other is supposed to be unifoliatum with dark flat leaves, but also looks more like a baby onion, though shorter leaves than the other...
should i expect them to change next year, or would the leaves have the same look as now--sown late winter?
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Armin on May 30, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
nice Ornithogalums

Now 2 close related in flower:

O. orthophyllum, suffered from winter frosts which early foiliage wilted
O. umbellatum, in my crocus meadow
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Herminarik on May 30, 2010, 08:23:46 PM
Hallo, I am not specialist in Genus Ornithogallum, so I am not able to label these two Ornithogallums we photographed last May in Croatia. The first picture is from NP Paklenica (Velebit Mountains) and the other is from Pag Island (the Ornithogalums here have a very net leafs – no more as 2 mm). Cheers Igor
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Armin on May 30, 2010, 08:33:18 PM
Igor,
nice images. I'm also no specialist but the first resmbles O. umbellatum, the second no idea. Maybe Oron knows?
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 05, 2010, 12:40:03 AM
Can someone identify this little species for me please. I've had it several years and it flowers but doesn't increase much. Usually the leaves are up around the flowers but a rabbit has grazed them down this year. I think that's an improvement though. :)

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Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Ray on October 05, 2010, 05:06:22 AM
Hi Lesley,O sibthorpii? bye Ray
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Oron Peri on October 05, 2010, 06:50:24 PM
Hi Lesley,O sibthorpii? bye Ray

Lesley,

I agree with Ray, O. sibthorpii, it is possible to see the typical form of the [eaten] channeled leaves.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Oron Peri on October 05, 2010, 06:58:55 PM
Igor,
nice images. I'm also no specialist but the first resmbles O. umbellatum, the second no idea. Maybe Oron knows?

Sorry to notice this message only now.
The first does look as O. umbellatum, as for the second it is difficult to say at this point, in this case fruiting stage is important as pedicals get longer or curved and make id much easier, any way good possibilities to  be O. divergens or O. comosum.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 06, 2010, 09:23:34 PM
Thanks Ray and Oron. I'll zip out now and put a label on it. :)
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Oron Peri on October 07, 2010, 04:44:05 PM
Thanks Ray and Oron. I'll zip out now and put a label on it. :)
Lesley

I think you should put on a new label, the accepted name for O. sibthorpii now is O. sigmoideum.
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Paul T on October 07, 2010, 10:47:51 PM
Oron,

Oh, should I change my label as well?  Any idea how long it will be before someone changes it back? ::)

Sorry, so many name changes that I'm getting cynical in my old age. :o

Despite my flippancy, I do appreciate name corrections.  I like to know the names of my plants and appreciate those thow take the time to give me the names.  It is just that some of the labels are going to fill up if I start putting all the synonyms on them. ;D
Title: Re: Ornithogalum 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 07, 2010, 11:59:54 PM
Thanks Ray and Oron. I'll zip out now and put a label on it. :)
Lesley

I think you should put on a new label, the accepted name for O. sibthorpii now is O. sigmoideum.

Oh damn! Just for once I did it when I said I would, so yes, another label. Thanks Oron (I think!).
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