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Title: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 17, 2010, 03:46:01 AM
Over the past ten years I have been converting a long clay bank in front of our house into a useable rock garden.  The basic strategy is to pry large boulders out of the bank and backfill with coarse sand so that the boulders are retaining sand not clay. One of the last sections of the bank not given this treatment, had very large heathers covering some big rocks.  My wife doesn't like the heather and I like looking at rocks so I started the renovation of this area last weekend.  We are experiencing quite a warm wet January so rock work is quite feasible this month.

I have some large tufa blocks left over from my last saxifrage project so I decided to try and build a tufa cliff.  However it is a tricky design problem to use stratified rock within a chaotic boulder talus slope - a stratified cliff would look out of place.  So my solution was to attempt to construct a steep "rock slide" with pieces of tufa at different angles within the granite rocks. As tufa is so precious I decided to use the tufa quite high on the slope and create a foundation of granite rocks as the first layer or so.

The first picture below shows the clay bank (about 2 m high) with large heathers at the top.  I found a good rock to form a foundation and set it up about a metre from the foot of the clay bank and backfilled with sand.  I levered up a very large white rock and decided to use it as the left side of the tufa cliff as it would be a reasonable colour match.  The series of photos show the formation of the granite rock foundations.  The tufa blocks will go on top, slightly set back for stability.  I will show the placement of the tufa in a subsequent post.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: cohan on January 17, 2010, 03:58:12 AM
looking forward to seeing the continued project :)
i'm jealous at the sheer volume of stone on your property...lol
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Armin on January 17, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
David,
respect! :D I get backpains just looking at the muscle work and sweat.
Did you move all rocks without the help of an excavator?
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Maggi Young on January 17, 2010, 07:41:59 PM
Great to see this project, David.

Remember Readers: click on the pictures to enlarge them
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 17, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
There are of course, some great examples to follow. The late Roy Elliott (Editor for many years of the AGS Bulletin) built a wonderful tufa cliff under cover and grew superb plants there, and then Harry Jans has built what amounted to tufa chimneys in which he grew (grows?) Jankaea heldreichii to perfection, among other plants.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 18, 2010, 01:35:07 AM
Armin:
The rocks have a bit of a story.  When we bought our acre 23 years ago it was a tree covered gradual slope.  We had most of the trees cleared so we could build a garden and also had the machine excavate a steep bank to create different slopes in the garden.  The clearing and excavation turned up hundreds of glacial boulders, some very large so I had the excavator push the rocks over the bank so they slid down to form a rough rock garden.  Over the next 12 years or so, we tried to plant on the slope but it was very challenging because of the heavy clay on the bank. For the past 10 years I have been renovating the bank to make it more suitable for a real rock garden.

I have not used an excavator for the rock garden reconstruction.  I find I can pry up most of the largest rocks using a long steel bar and even move them to different spots on the bank using a fulcrum to slide the rock sideways.  It helps that most of the rocks are half way up the bank already. I have dug up other rocks all over the garden and these I move to to the top of the bank with a rubber tyred dolly. I then roll or slide the rocks down the bank with final rock placement by man-handling the rock or using a pry bar.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 18, 2010, 02:52:49 AM
I have seen pictures of Harry Jans' tufa wall but that method won't work for me.  I recall that Harry's tufa is jammed vertically between several concrete pillars and the pillars provide the structural support.  When building a cliff in the garden I have found you have to be very careful with stability.  I learned my lesson a couple of years ago when I had a slow failure of a cliff. I had to tear it down and start again.  I try and ensure stability of a rock garden cliff by the following strategies:

Use mostly "blocky" rocks that are naturally stable with the largest rocks at the base of the wall
Relatively thin rocks should not be placed near-vertical - they will eventually topple with the pressure behind the wall even with a well-drained backfill.
If the rock is relatively thin, slope it back into the wall.
When placing a rock above a rock, step it back at least the width of a crevice.  This has the advantage of creating a planting area.
Test the stability of the cliff as you build by climbing it and pulling the rocks outwards.  If it is difficult to move them, the cliff will be stable in the long term.  You will also be able to climb it later for planting and maintenance.

The end result from making sure that the cliff is stable is that it has an overall slope back and is not near-vertical. But if the rocks are large it will still have a cliff-like appearance
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 18, 2010, 03:23:11 AM
TUFA PLACEMENT

I had decided not to build a stratified cliff as it would like out of place in our chaotic rock garden but as tufa is a stratified rock it is hard to avoid ending up with a layered look.  My design concept was to try and build a collapsing rock cliff or a rock slide.  I slid the first piece of tufa up a wooden plank and placed it as if it had fallen from a cliff.  I then placed another three pieces above bringing them in on a dolly to a point above the cliff and sliding/rolling them down the slope.

The photos show that the cliff is really a bit too stratified for my liking, plus it is not as cliff-like as I would prefer.  So this will not do.  I will have to work on a redesign.

Although the photos show the garden looking a little drab in our wet January there is some colour around so I threw in a photo of flowers on the Viburnum bodnantense to cheer things up a bit.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Armin on January 18, 2010, 09:56:23 PM
David,
thanks for your interesting story. Over the years you must have moved tons of rocks 8)
God bless your back!  ;D             
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 19, 2010, 03:36:27 AM
THE SOLUTION

As ever is to study the rocks.  I had a large tufa slab left over which I thought I could use at the top of the cliff with a lean back into the slope so it would be stable.  As I looked hard at the slab it occurred to me that I might be able to incorporate it into an overhang.  Having an overhang in the tufa cliff would provide perfect habitat below for Porphyrion saxifrages.  It is not just that the rain spoils the flowers in the early spring but they are also less floriferous in our garden unless provided with winter rain shelter. I have built lots of rain shelters which show up in some of the earlier photos but they are time consuming to erect in the fall and to take down in the spring.

The big worry about incorporating an overhang is making it look "natural".  Anyway I decided to give it a go and rebuilt the top of the tufa cliff.  The slab went in below the top layer with one of the heavy tufa blocks on top to hold it in place by weighing it down.  Anyway, the result is that the tufa cliff looks much more natural plus I have a nice overhang to plant beneath.  I also envisage planting Saxifraga longifolia right on the lip of the overhang.

For the design concept of a collapsing tufa cliff, the overhanging slab looks like the next piece to fall but it is actually very stable. The piece of tufa that has "already fallen" has some nice solution features as shown in the close-up photo below.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 19, 2010, 03:53:30 AM
NEXT STEPS

I now have to decide whether to keep raising the cliff or to construct a path along the top with a rock bank above the path.  I first have to construct a rock wall in the dark area to the left of the tufa cliff shown in the photo below. More backfill will be required and the photo of the current top of the cliff shows the sand backfill supporting the tufa cliff very clearly.

Further work on the project will also require moving a couple of rhododendrons which are in the way of bringing stone to the site from above. I estimate that the project will not be complete for another month or so.  After that - planting!
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 19, 2010, 05:48:56 AM
You're only 22 years old David. Right?
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Carlo on January 19, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
Hi David...nice to see you on the forums--and relive the photos of your project. Still looks great.......(hard to believe it's been almost a year since Portland...)
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 20, 2010, 02:40:53 AM
You're only 22 years old David. Right?

Well I feel only 22 years old when playing with rocks.  Does that count?
Actually I will be retiring in March to become a full-time rock gardener and mountain traveller. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 20, 2010, 02:45:14 AM
Hi David...nice to see you on the forums--and relive the photos of your project. Still looks great.......(hard to believe it's been almost a year since Portland...)

Good to hear from you Carlo.  We are heading back to Portland in April. The first trip of a new career!
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 20, 2010, 07:48:45 PM
You're only 22 years old David. Right?

Well I feel only 22 years old when playing with rocks.  Does that count?
Actually I will be retiring in March to become a full-time rock gardener and mountain traveller. I can't wait.

So why is it that you feel 22 when playing with rocks and I feel 140?  ???
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 21, 2010, 05:13:31 AM



So why is it that you feel 22 when playing with rocks and I feel 140?  ???



To get that 22 feeling you have to get down on your knees (literally), put both arms around the rock and hold it close.  Only then will it move for you.  If the rock is too big for this treatment, use a steel bar and gently move it to a position of prominence.  It will reward you with its splendour and durability, outlasting even the most long-lived plants.


Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Jiri Papousek on January 21, 2010, 09:13:51 PM
Hello David,
I share pain of muscles with you, as I am currently building crevice garden...
Here is some inspiration for you. First picture (sorry about quality) comes from alpinehouse of dionysia master Michael Kammerlander in Germany.
Another ones are from garden of my friend Jiri Sladek in Czech Republic- there is supporting construction inside, it will carry later on light roof from polycarbonate. There is also watering system as top part can dry out very quickly. It was just finished, so plants will need to develop.
I got an idea to create north oriented slope and rise troughs on the top of railway sleepers (hope it is correct name). It was really funny first, as trough stayed in place, but construction was going ahead...
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on January 21, 2010, 11:06:44 PM
Hi Jiri:

Thanks for your examples.  They are truly inspiring. In the Jiri Sladek mountain of tufa is he using cement to hold the pieces in place?

I am also gardening on a north-oriented slope.  Saxifrages seem to really like it, especially Saxifraga oppositifolia.

I would be interested to see more pictures as your project develops. The railway sleepers in your photo look like a good way of sliding troughs and rocks up a slope.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on February 22, 2010, 03:42:22 AM
Well the rhododendrons have been dug up, loaded into a trailer, transported by ferry to the Sunshine Coast and planted in my daughter's garden.  So it's back to the cliff construction.

First I had to build a cliff of granite rocks to the left of the tufa.  The photo below shows this underway and the second photo shows the sand backfill from the top.  I had a pieces of exfoliated rock which I thought could make an overhang for protecting Androsace vandellii.  We had seen this lovely plant growing in Andorra under granite overhangs (third picture). I have a few coming along from seed which I will try planting out later under the overhang.

The trick with the overhang slab is to weigh it down with a big rock on top so that it is stable.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on February 22, 2010, 04:09:45 AM
I had a few large pieces of tufa left and I decided to construct another overhang in the tufa cliff and raise it a bit.  I then had to construct steps to the right of the cliff to create a path to the top of the cliff.  I had saved some large rocks with one flat side for the steps.  I like to use large rocks for steps and set them in sand so that plants around the steps have good drainage. 

The first photo shows the completed tufa cliff from the east with the granite cliff and granite overhang to the left. There is still more granite cliff to build to the left of the overhang. The second photo shows three of the steps in place with the tufa cliff to the left.  The final photo shows the tufa cliff from the west.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 22, 2010, 08:35:22 AM
Very impressive David !  :o
Should look great when planted  :D :D

(wished I had that amount of rock..  :'( :'( )
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on February 23, 2010, 05:51:45 AM
Very impressive David !  :o
Should look great when planted  :D :D

(wished I had that amount of rock..  :'( :'( )

Luc:
I'm having second thoughts about planting.  After all, this is a rock garden. Having spent so much effort building the cliff, I don't want plants covering up the rocks. :) :) :)

Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Nicholson on February 23, 2010, 09:25:16 AM
Very impressive David !  :o
Should look great when planted  :D :D

(wished I had that amount of rock..  :'( :'( )

Luc, you wish you had that much rock in the whole of Belgium ;D
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 23, 2010, 09:44:46 AM
... we do have some rock in Belgium David N.... but it's in the wrong place...  ;D ;D

David S., it would take a lot of plants to cover up that cliff !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: christian pfalz on May 15, 2010, 12:35:28 AM
hello,
here is my tufa wall...
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild003-42.jpg?t=1273880044)
and the smal one...
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt188/yuccajoe/Bild008-29.jpg?t=1273880104)
regards
chris
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: David Sellars on May 15, 2010, 03:38:07 AM
Beautiful plantings Christian.

How do you build a wall like that?  What holds it together?

I have just started planting my tufa cliff.   This is what it looks like now.  Most of the plants are Kabschia saxifrages plus some Saxifraga longifolia.
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: christian pfalz on May 15, 2010, 01:10:55 PM
hello david,
i built it with "Fliesenkleber" for outdoor situations...
regards
chris
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: mark smyth on May 15, 2010, 02:28:04 PM
when image Tufa cliff -first planting.jpg is small do you see a small pink head looking over the wall?
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: cohan on May 16, 2010, 05:58:44 AM
hello david,
i built it with "Fliesenkleber" for outdoor situations...
regards
chris

very nice design.--i had to check out 'fliesenkleber' which google translated as 'tile adhesive'..interesting...
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: christian pfalz on May 16, 2010, 09:46:25 AM
great, thanks  :D
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: Maggi Young on May 16, 2010, 05:34:06 PM
hello david,
i built it with "Fliesenkleber" for outdoor situations...
regards
chris
An outdoor version of tile adhesive..... fancy that! Clever use of materials, eh?!
Title: Re: Building a tufa cliff
Post by: christian pfalz on May 16, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
 ;)
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