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Title: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Oron Peri on January 11, 2010, 05:15:01 PM
A. coronaria starts to bloom in the Northern part of the Jordan Valley,
in this area there is only the red form with very few exceptions such as this amazing soft pink form.
Due to the fertile soil and some good rains flowers are just huge reaching 10cm in diameter.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 11, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
Maybe common in some areas but always cheers me up .In Crete I found only the blue forms and did never see the red ones ...
My neighbor grow them in her garden and the seedlings are now infiltrate in my rockgarden.Because I like them I could not eliminate the newcomer so far. 
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: cycnich on January 11, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
Thanks for showing these, I think we are all depressed here in the UK with the weather and suchlike but spring is not too far away and you have cheered me up a little at least. Thank you.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Gerdk on January 11, 2010, 07:36:17 PM
Oron, thank you for the most impressive show of springflowers.
The pink coronaria is a stunner indeed!

Gerd
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Melvyn Jope on January 11, 2010, 08:27:17 PM
Thanks for showing the pink Anemone coronaria Oron, it reminded me of some that Pat (cycnich) and I saw near Githeo last November but on looking at the photo again they are nothing like each other!
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Armin on January 11, 2010, 09:42:57 PM
Oron,
lovely pictures of the anemones. 8)
I tried several times to establish them in my garden. Tubers germinated well in autuum but bare frosts and to much moist killed them... :'(
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 12, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
Wonderful pictures Oron !
The ones showing these red beauties in their habitat are marvelous !
Thanks !
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Darren on January 14, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
I really like these anemones so thanks for the lovely pictures!

My experience is the same as Armin's. They dwindle away in the garden, either due to cold winds in winter or too much moisture in summer, or both. With a tiny bit of overhead protection in the bulb frame they do well.

Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on January 14, 2010, 11:15:16 AM
Do you all have the same experience with A.pavonina? It grows quite well here and is native to the south and east of Bulgaria (as well as elsewhere) at the moment they are coping quite well with a mild and wet winter. We have A.coronaria we brought with us and they have been happy so far in deciduous shade.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Otto Fauser on January 14, 2010, 11:25:43 AM
Thank you Oron , for the beautyful photos of Anemone coronaria .
 My very first childhood memory at the tender age of 3 years is a field of red A. coronaria .

     thanks again from Otto.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 14, 2010, 01:12:42 PM
Do you all have the same experience with A.pavonina? It grows quite well here and is native to the south and east of Bulgaria (as well as elsewhere) at the moment they are coping quite well with a mild and wet winter. We have A.coronaria we brought with us and they have been happy so far in deciduous shade.

I've never tried A. coronaria, but Pavonina does quite well here !
I have it outside on a raised bed in full sun and it survived last year's cold Winter quite well.  Leaves were already showing again when the snow came 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Darren on January 14, 2010, 01:16:51 PM
Pavonina does the same with us - fine in bulb frame, feeble otherwise.

Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on January 14, 2010, 01:35:44 PM
I am glad A.pavonina grows with you, Luc. Both species have had leaves up since October here and have survived down to -15C with no snow cover so far. I did have A.coronaria outside in the UK, but planted under lavenders to keep the soil drier in summer.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Maggi Young on January 14, 2010, 01:37:02 PM
Quote
They dwindle away in the garden, either due to cold winds in winter or too much moisture in summer, or both. With a tiny bit of overhead protection in the bulb frame they do well.

 While I agree that climatic reasons are mostly to blame for the lack of success in the garden.... I suspect that there may be another factor, too..... mice.  I think mice find anemone corms tasty.  :P
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Oron Peri on January 15, 2010, 09:32:59 AM
This extraordinary field is situated across the biblical site of Megiddo.
I couldn't resist making a stop early this morning to take some photos.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: ranunculus on January 15, 2010, 09:55:23 AM
What a beautiful vista, Oron ... no wonder you had to stop and take these lovely images.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 15, 2010, 10:18:59 AM
What a great looking bulbfield !!!
So colourfull !!!  Does it turn into semi desert in Summer ??

I hope you didn't get a parking ticket when taking the pictures Oron ...  ;D
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on January 15, 2010, 10:52:36 AM
If this is Armegeddon, bring it on! What a site/ sight!!
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Joakim B on January 15, 2010, 11:08:28 AM
Are these planted there or are they "natural"? It seems to be very few of the reds compared what You showed earlier.

A great site to see so thanks for this.
Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Maggi Young on January 15, 2010, 01:23:01 PM
Oh, my word, Oron! I am so grateful that you have so little capacity to resist temptation...... ;D    what a sight! wonderful.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 15, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
Oron, your superb photos of drifts of Anemone really puts a different complexion on how wonderful they look, colours mingling en masse under the trees.  I have never had much success growing them but this is inspiration indeed  :)
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: hadacekf on January 15, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
What a great beautiful bulb meadow. Thanks
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Armin on January 15, 2010, 04:32:40 PM
I concur Franz.  :o 8)
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Oron Peri on January 15, 2010, 07:11:58 PM
Thank you all for the comments,

Luc, this area is very dry in summer but is not considered semidesert as it receive more than 500mm of rains annually.

Joakim,

These are wild Anemone, we haven't found any explanation so far to this phenomenon, some areas are mixed colors, others only red  or only white.
We suppose that it might depends on rainfalls,   mixed colors in more rainy areas and Red form  in drier areas, but it hasn't been proved scientifically so far.

 
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Joakim B on January 15, 2010, 09:07:54 PM
Thanks for this explanation Oron
Can it be human intervention so that in these with very low amount of reds people have "taken them away" maybe much earlier (10-100 of years ago) due to what ever reason if this is close to historical grounds (religious or funeral grounds)? Just speculating but it was so few reds it was almost as it was a "weed" that had entered this land of pinks and whites.
I might be totally of but this seems closer to habitation.

Btw is this plant eaten by goats/sheeps? Sometimes animals seem to avoid flowers of some colour and hence "drive" colour to that range or is that just my imagination?
Always fun to speculate.
It is very nice regardles of any possible human intervention.
Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 18, 2010, 06:02:32 AM
I wish we had carpets of anemones under our eucalypt trees ;D
Wonderful pics, Oron.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on January 18, 2010, 08:41:53 AM
Is it on your allowed list, Fermi? I am sure they would love to be there!
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on February 21, 2010, 12:01:07 PM
Not quite Anemone coronaria, but here are some A.pavonina flowering yesterday in the southeast of Bulgaria. So far it seems that the red forms flower later than the pastel and pink forms. The ones we have in the garden should flower in a week or so.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: TheOnionMan on February 21, 2010, 01:31:50 PM
Simon, a beautiful Anemone. At what elevations does it grow?  Perhaps A. pavonina might actually have a chance of being hardy here compared to A. coronaria.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on February 21, 2010, 01:38:27 PM
In this area they are found from sealevel to maybe 300 or 400masl. They have had considerable snowfall there this winter. We have them growing in the garden here and they put out leaves in autumn and so have been down to -15C before the snow arrived. We do have 1 red A.coronaria we bought with us which has had no problems outside here either.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Lori S. on February 21, 2010, 04:56:48 PM
An aside.... I have actually had run-of-the-mill garden center A. coronaria winter over here, amazingly.  (However, they never do anything in their second season, so the point of them doing so is moot!)  It suggests that certain strains must be quite hardy, though.
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on February 21, 2010, 05:04:16 PM
I have had them flowering here from seed in 6 months. The seed sown in autumn germinated in spring and flowered in the seedpots before I was able to plant them out in autumn. Maybe we just need a quick to flower seed strain  ;)
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 21, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
A. pavonina survived last Winter, where we had down to minus 12°C on some occasions - It seem's to have coped well with the present winter as well - not quite as cold as last year's (down to -9° C) but with a much longer frost period.  Leaves are pushing through right now !  :D
Title: Re: Anemone coronaria
Post by: Sinchets on February 21, 2010, 05:21:53 PM
Great news, Luc.
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