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Title: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 01, 2010, 11:15:36 AM
Mark, the Blackcaps are eating apples and pears that I put out for the Blackbirds this morning. -6°C here.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 01, 2010, 01:38:49 PM
My Blackcap still hasn't discovered that apples are edible. Only the Fieldfare takes them...

Maximum temperature today -12C.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 01, 2010, 02:31:56 PM
It seems that heavy snow brings out the worst in the territorial behaviour of Wood Pigeons    7 of them are so intent on battling the others away that they are missing out on the feed    Fat Balls are favourite with all birds just now including pheasant.  Carrion Crows are overcoming their wariness to join the throng under our feeding stations
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 01, 2010, 02:39:14 PM
A male blackbird has spent the morning chasing a female blackbird away from the apples and pears that I put out.
In five or six weeks he will be trying to encourage her in, and will be offering her food. Funny old world, isn't it.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 02, 2010, 11:01:24 AM
THE BIRDS INVADE AGAIN

Yes, the Waxwings were back in force today, about 80 in number, intent on taking all the Berberis berries from the bush next to the kitchen window. The Blackcap was in the middle of the bush as the attack commenced and remained there throughout looking more and more dismayed that her food supply was disappearing...

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: annew on January 02, 2010, 12:01:47 PM
Great pictures, Stephen.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 02, 2010, 01:09:42 PM
Saw a  funny thing from my study window just now.......... an Acer Drummondii serves as host to numerous birdfeeding devices and the flattened snow below is awash with opportunist birds mopping up the fallen grain etc. There were about a dozen chaffinch there when a couple of Carrion Crows alighting in the tree dislodged a biggish lump of snow that fell smack onto a blameless Chaffinch going about its lawful business on the ground.  I rushed out to the rescue just in time to see the finch flutter up from its personal snowdrift and fly off unharmed. A chance in a million sighting.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Paul T on January 02, 2010, 02:07:05 PM
Gwen,

I can almost picture the disgusted look on it's face for the cold snow unexpectedly down the back of it's little neck.  ;D

Stephen,

The waxwings are beautiful.  Not something we get down here of course, nor much snow either, particularly at this time of year.  ;D  1am and a balmy 18oC here at present.
Title: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 02, 2010, 02:20:56 PM
Dear friends -_ As I known there are also animal-specialist on our forum this time a question about an ID for a bird and snake that we see on our trip to Zakynthos.I hope somebody could identify . 8) .
Thanks .
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: mark smyth on January 02, 2010, 03:05:10 PM
I'm not good on waders but it looks like a godwit Limosa limosa but the legs are too short
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 02, 2010, 04:18:06 PM
Thanks Mark ,I think you put me on the right track for the bird.
Google a bit with this input brought me to Black-tailed Godwit (Limosa limosa )wich looks correct to me.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 02, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
A friend, francine Riez, ahs sentthese links to photos of her freind Jules Fourage , presently on pixagogo, but she seems unsure as to how long they may remain there...... I advise you to check them out now! The pix can be enlarged.....
It will take a while to download the whole pages, but the photos are superb!
   http://www.pixagogo.com/6736834217      les oiseaux de Jules Fouarge en 2008  oiseaux + quelques plantes alpines


et   Les PHOTOS DE JULES EN 2009 
http://www.pixagogo.com/0608084522


http://www.pixagogo.com/2609064101   à Namur en 2008
 
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Maggi Young on January 02, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
I think perhaps a Bar-tailed Godwit: Limosa lapponica ??
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Melvyn Jope on January 02, 2010, 05:20:36 PM
Could the snake possibly be a meadow viper?  Vipera ursinii?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: annew on January 02, 2010, 05:42:59 PM
They are fantastique!
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Maggi Young on January 02, 2010, 05:51:15 PM
I thought that on the Vipers the main central dorsal markings were more joined up..... (great grasp of herpetological tech speak there, huh?!! :-[ )
The handsome fellow from Zakynthos has a more "dotted" pattern.....
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Tomas on January 02, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
This snake is Elaphe quatuorlineata.
T.
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Maggi Young on January 02, 2010, 06:44:48 PM
This snake is Elaphe quatuorlineata.
T.


 So, a Leopard snake rather than a Cat Snake, Telescopus fallax  ?
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 02, 2010, 06:59:38 PM
I think perhaps a Bar-tailed Godwit: Limosa lapponica ??
Maggi , it must be a Bar-tailed Godwit ,but the latin name is still not clear .
On google I found also Limosa limosa as latin name for the Bar-tailed Godwit ? ???     
Anyway we get ahead with it ,thanks to the forum again .I think the snake is sneaky  :-\
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 02, 2010, 07:34:31 PM
I think perhaps a Bar-tailed Godwit: Limosa lapponica ??
Maggi , it must be a Bar-tailed Godwit ,but the latin name is still not clear .
On google I found also Limosa limosa as latin name for the Bar-tailed Godwit ? ???     
Anyway we get ahead with it ,thanks to the forum again .I think the snake is sneaky  :-\
I think I got confused but after a cup of coffee, now see clear again ...
The Black-tailed Gotwid is Limosa limosa and the Bar-tailed Gotwid is Limosa lapponica . ;D
Think the picture I posted on this forum is the Black-tailed ,so Limosa limosa ::)
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Maggi Young on January 02, 2010, 08:11:15 PM
No, I think the Black tailed is different, slightly longer beak, to,.... also taller..... I'm sticking with the Bartailed!  :)

http://www.pbase.com/adpostma/image/85502431

 Try this page for comparative pix...
https://sites.google.com/site/migratagis/shorebirds-gallery
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: PDJ on January 02, 2010, 09:51:49 PM
I think you will find its the Bar-tailed godwit Limosa lapponica the tail bars are visible in the photo.  The godwits depending on the time of year can be quite variable as to plumage but the bars are always visible.
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 02, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
No, I think the Black tailed is different, slightly longer beak, to,.... also taller..... I'm sticking with the Bartailed!  :)

http://www.pbase.com/adpostma/image/85502431

 Try this page for comparative pix...
https://sites.google.com/site/migratagis/shorebirds-gallery
I think you will find its the Bar-tailed godwit Limosa lapponica the tail bars are visible in the photo.  The godwits depending on the time of year can be quite variable as to plumage but the bars are always visible.

Oh this story gets a tail anyway. Yes Maggi looking at the picture of the first link I must admit that it looks much the same as the bird on  my picture.So at least I doubt again but maybe I must be humble enough - just like Mark -and admit that waders are not my speciality .Paul ,your explanation is also what I found on the internet.So it is maybe rather difficult to see the difference between both species.The different sites on the internet makes it more confused for me.
But two against one,it is obvious.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 03, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
Sad news. I'm afraid that Munky the Blackcap is no more....

I discovered a pile of blackcap-like feathers under the bird feeder yesterday and she hasn't been seen since. I thought that this would happen as she stayed put when the other birds flew up in alarm at something....

Thought you should know....
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 03, 2010, 11:27:02 AM
Cats. :'(
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 03, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
Sad news. I'm afraid that Munky the Blackcap is no more....

I discovered a pile of blackcap-like feathers under the bird feeder yesterday and she hasn't been seen since. I thought that this would happen as she stayed put when the other birds flew up in alarm at something....

Thought you should know....

I wonder if she might have been ill? That could explain the reluctance to take evasive action.... as to the culprit... a pile of feathers usually indicates the lunching spot of a sparrow hawk in our garden.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 03, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Yes, her strange behaviour certainly suggested that all wasn't well, but she had plenty of energy to chase the other birds away.

Both a cat, Goshawk or Sparrowhawk are all possible here (I've seen a cat sat under the bird feeder the last few days). 
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: TC on January 03, 2010, 01:38:50 PM
For my 10 cents worth it is a Bar Tailed Godwit.  Identification points are shorter upturned bill than Black Tailed Godwit and shorter legs
The plumage on a Black Tail is softer grey without the pronounced streaking.  The supercilium extends behind the eye on the Bar Tail.  The Bar Tail looks "dumpier" than the Black Tail.  This is obvious when you see them together.  In flight the difference is easy. The Black Tail has a black band on its tail separated from its rump by a white band.  The Bar Tail amazingly has a Barred Tail and a white rump !
The Dutch name is Rosse Grutto and the French is Barge Rousse.

I could guess at the snake but I never get close to them if I can help it.  I have met with Green Mambas, Pit Vipers and Boomslangs on my travels and always backed off speedily.  I have also met various varieties in Greece but I have always kept my distance.
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 03, 2010, 04:13:19 PM
No, I think the Black tailed is different, slightly longer beak, to,.... also taller..... I'm sticking with the Bartailed!  :)

I think you will find its the Bar-tailed godwit Limosa lapponica the tail bars are visible in the photo.  The godwits depending on the time of year can be quite variable as to plumage but the bars are always visible.
For my 10 cents worth it is a Bar Tailed Godwit.  Identification points are shorter upturned bill than Black Tailed Godwit and shorter legs


The plumage on a Black Tail is softer grey without the pronounced streaking.  The supercilium extends behind the eye on the Bar Tail.  The Bar Tail looks "dumpier" than the Black Tail.  This is obvious when you see them together.  In flight the difference is easy. The Black Tail has a black band on its tail separated from its rump by a white band.  The Bar Tail amazingly has a Barred Tail and a white rump !
The Dutch name is Rosse Grutto and the French is Barge Rousse.

So many thanks to you all ,Maggi ,Paul and Tom .Tom thank you for the "technical" explanation ! I go to change the names  on my digital pictures ... and I learned again something about birds .
Tom ,are you specialised in birds ? But Maggi and Paul seems to know also a lot about birds ...
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 03, 2010, 04:23:49 PM
On the other hand ,the snake is not clear for me.Tomas ,Melvyn and Maggi thanks for your reply but it looks that snakes are even more difficult then birds .My first tought on it was Natrix???So together with my own effort we got 4 names...
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 03, 2010, 06:09:51 PM
While I put the right name of the bird on my pics ,I see that I have some other nice pictures .
You can see that the bar-tailed godwit was hunting for some insects.
Pic 1 : Oh ,I see a nice bite passing by
Pic 2 : I go for it
Pic 3 : feast
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 03, 2010, 08:27:46 PM
Stephen   your posting reminds me of a situation that provided some humour ... my elderly mother was a great birdwatcher  and one day she was chatting to me on the phone and said"   Oh! Oh! I have to got to go. There's a cat sitting under the bird dispensers"      Of course she meant seed dispensers but our response was   Smart Cat
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 03, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Magnificent pictures from those links Maggi. Thanks for those.

We find that if we go on feeding the native bellbirds and tuis after the winter has finished, they continue to feed even though there's plenty else around. They are both honey eaters in the main and I suppose they find it easier and cheaper of energy to go on at our sugar/water bottles than look elsewhere. So we still have them even in mid summer. All year round in fact.
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 03, 2010, 09:16:08 PM
They are both beautiful creatures and the discussion is interesting. Because of those factors Maggi, could they perhaps be transferred to the new 2010 Wildlife thread?
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Maggi Young on January 03, 2010, 09:22:34 PM
Good idea, Lesley, will do.
Title: Re: unknown bird and snake from Zakynthos
Post by: Tomas on January 03, 2010, 11:54:22 PM
On the other hand ,the snake is not clear for me.Tomas ,Melvyn and Maggi thanks for your reply but it looks that snakes are even more difficult then birds .My first tought on it was Natrix???So together with my own effort we got 4 names...

I think it is juvenile Elaphe quatuorlineata. This species has different colour as young and as adult. Telescopus fallax has different shape (broad head and thin neck). Pictures from Corfu:
1) E. quatuorlineata juvenile (my wife caught...)
2) and 3) same species, two adults
4) Vipera ammodytes juvenile for comparision

Please excuse my poor English.
T.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 04, 2010, 12:13:47 AM
Tomas, you make yourself perfectly clear! Thank you.
That is an unusual and brave wife you have there, who likes to handle snakes! 8)


The young viper is just perfect.... so tiny!  8)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 04, 2010, 12:28:12 AM
I assume this species is not poisonous? :o But the little viper? Yes?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: PDJ on January 04, 2010, 12:44:56 AM
Vipera ammodytes is highly venomous and often seen in the Peloponnese.  The cute tiny one could still cause you a few problems if you were bitten.  In the Peloponnese they are most abundant just after sunrise when they bask in order to achieve working temperature.  On one visit to the Peloponnese I found one living in a drainage pipe next to the apartments back door and many hatchlings sunning themselves on top of the gardeners compost heap probably where they incubated.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Tomas on January 04, 2010, 10:43:49 AM
Vipera ammodytes doesn't lay eggs, this species is ovoviviparous. :)
T.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on January 04, 2010, 06:00:29 PM
On the other hand ,the snake is not clear for me.Tomas ,Melvyn and Maggi thanks for your reply but it looks that snakes are even more difficult then birds .My first tought on it was Natrix???So together with my own effort we got 4 names...

I think it is juvenile Elaphe quatuorlineata. This species has different colour as young and as adult. Telescopus fallax has different shape (broad head and thin neck). Pictures from Corfu:
1) E. quatuorlineata juvenile (my wife caught...)
2) and 3) same species, two adults
4) Vipera ammodytes juvenile for comparision

Please excuse my poor English.
T.

Super ! Thank you Tomas ,everything clear now due your  explanation and of course the fantastic pictures you put on this forum.Never tought on a juvenile form with snakes en therefore completely misled.I am happy and put the right names on my pictures.Don't ask my wife to coach a snake a   
 
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 04, 2010, 11:07:01 PM
Scotland only has three native species of reptile, including Vipera beris, and they are only able to breed because they retain their eggs inside their bodies.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: maggiepie on January 05, 2010, 02:02:33 AM
Lovely patterns on the snakes.
I am very fond of reptiles.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: TC on January 05, 2010, 12:21:19 PM
The only bright spot of this weather is the number of species of birds visiting the back garden.  We have regular Yellowhammers, and a Brambling turned up 20 minutes ago.  As the weather is above freezing on the coast, more birds are being pushed from inland.  Yesterday we were watching locally, a Black Redstart, Water Pipit and a Dark Bellied Brent Goose.  In the west, we have not had such low temperatures as the North and East so the birds are heading our way.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: annew on January 05, 2010, 02:01:39 PM
While I was out of action, my husband took a turn at feeding the birds this morning. It was snowing fast so he had a different idea for a 'bird table' to keep the ground underneath clear! For 3 hours a fieldfare defended the food from all comers, so I put more food on top of the table for the others. The garden isn't on a slope, by the way, I was trying to sneak a photo round the edge of the window so they didn't see me.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2010, 02:09:02 PM
Great idea Anne.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 05, 2010, 05:34:38 PM
One of the saddest sights here is at the local free range poultry farm     hundreds of miserable brown egg layers are crowding under the eaves of their sheds trying to keep warm and out of the snow that covers their fields to at least 12".  Then again, the postman's Golden Retriever lies out at his wrought iron gate in that same snow apparently quite comfortably,  watching the world go by.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 05, 2010, 05:41:51 PM
While I was out of action, my husband took a turn at feeding the birds this morning. It was snowing fast so he had a different idea for a 'bird table' to keep the ground underneath clear! For 3 hours a fieldfare defended the food from all comers, so I put more food on top of the table for the others. The garden isn't on a slope, by the way, I was trying to sneak a photo round the edge of the window so they didn't see me.

Excellent idea! I need a new "bird table", but had kept putting off the woodwork - now I know what to do, if you don't mind me stealing the idea (your husband will be referenced of course....)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 05, 2010, 05:58:51 PM
Gwen,

It's tough days for the poultry. I know it is a  bit cruel but we do enjoy it when we open the run for our hens and ducks and the ducks gallop straight to the pond and then skate right along it in a  most undignified manner. It breaks their little hearts - but I have a children's paddling pool which I keep covered and they can enjoy their splash in that.

Paddy
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
Real or fake?
http://www.nativebirds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9120 (http://www.nativebirds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9120)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 05, 2010, 07:10:26 PM
Real or fake?
http://www.nativebirds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9120 (http://www.nativebirds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9120)
Got to be a member to see the link, Mark  :-X
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2010, 08:05:50 PM
Damn. I'll look for the photo elsewhere
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
http://www.maniacworld.com/three-bird-smiley-face.html (http://www.maniacworld.com/three-bird-smiley-face.html) The birds are pixilated
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 05, 2010, 08:30:52 PM
I'm sure this picture has been on the Forum some other time and place. I've certainly seen it before, and I don't spend much/any time on other sites. ???
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 05, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
I've had it a couple of times in emails.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Not sure where to post this ..

Have you seen the Lowlow cheese ad with the mouse? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pssqhyS-LE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pssqhyS-LE)

My mother just asked me "how long would it take to train the mouse". Ah, bless.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 05, 2010, 10:08:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkuyz4K_Ho&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkuyz4K_Ho&feature=fvw) keep watching
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: PDJ on January 05, 2010, 10:24:18 PM
Those are a couple of extremely lucky mice.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: annew on January 06, 2010, 09:12:41 AM
Crumbs, Mark, this stuff is addictive - look at one, then that leads to another!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 06, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
Crumbs, Mark, this stuff is addictive - look at one, then that leads to another!

Looked at the first one but was scared to look at the others in case one was for the chop, bit of a softie I am.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 06, 2010, 11:35:41 AM
Angie what about the bird you found?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 06, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
Mark it died didn't make it through the night :'(
I have never seen so much birds around the garden I think somebirds have been telling others there is plenty of food here.
My mum never leaves the house and all these little chaps keep here so happy, she soon tells me if the bird feeders are running low.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 06, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
A man over here mist nets and rings all small birds that pass through his garden. The majority of birds are passing just through.

I watched the flock of goldfinches and redpolls that feed in my garden take off and fly towards another garden where they can get niger.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 06, 2010, 03:33:23 PM
These birds aren't silly ;D
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 06, 2010, 04:34:24 PM
Have to report that Oscar   our semi tame cock pheasant who has been visiting the garden regularly for two years anyway  has until recently had a harem of three, but in the last couple of days it has increased to six  and they, slender though they are , are seeing the carrion crows off from the fat balls Just hope it  doesn't give Johnnie any ideas.  Oscar is tame enough to walk close under the windows and can be heard making a repetitive subsong  that sounds like, "    Pork, Pork, Pork " Better than the harsh in-flight alarm cackle
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 06, 2010, 06:30:39 PM
Gwen,

A cheap food which appeals to pheasants is "Layers' Pellets", the foodstuff used for hens. Here it is less than ten euro per bag, twenty five kilo size.
Here I feed the pheasants when I feed the hens and just scatter the pellets around on the grass.

Paddy
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 06, 2010, 07:03:40 PM
  Oscar is tame enough to walk close under the windows and can be heard making a repetitive subsong  that sounds like, "    Pork, Pork, Pork " Better than the harsh in-flight alarm cackle

He's telling you Gwen, that he'd like some lard in the fat balls, maybe a bit of bacon. ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 06, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Paddy I feed the crumb version to the blackbird
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 06, 2010, 08:25:35 PM
What a site this would have been - 100s of red kites
http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?r=1 (http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?r=1)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 06, 2010, 08:41:56 PM
Wow Mark what a wonderful site.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 06, 2010, 09:16:52 PM
What a site this would have been - 100s of red kites
http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?r=1 (http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?r=1)

A great sight indeed - and site. :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 07, 2010, 12:00:56 AM
Did anyone in the UK watch Horizon tonight? "The Secret Life of the Dog"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00pssgh/Horizon_20092010_The_Secret_Life_of_the_Dog/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00pssgh/Horizon_20092010_The_Secret_Life_of_the_Dog/)

Brilliant! If you have a dog you have to watch it.

A study in Russia over 50 years selected docile silver foxes. Eventually they became tame and started to want human contact. They also started to change colour.

Apologies to those outside of the UK but if you really want I could put the programme on disc for you.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: annew on January 07, 2010, 08:37:24 AM
It was a very interesting programme. The collie who knew 300 different objects by name was amazing. She could even recognise photos of a new object so she could fetch it straight away. I wonder if you could get it to fetch a week's shopping?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 07, 2010, 09:35:15 AM
Yes Mark,it was interesting that their tails started to curl with the human contact. I am still trying to teach my stupid mutt to fetch my slippers.
She knows that when I put on the boots it is time for a walk but does not know when I take them off I need my slippers. :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 07, 2010, 10:51:48 AM
when we talk to someone we look more at the opposite person's right eye and dog does it also. Dogs know from 6 months old what a pointing finger means and also know where to look by us looking with our eyes.

The wolf pups on the other hand .... I wouldnt want one in my house.

and the chemical that is released when we stroke a dog is released by the dog also.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 07, 2010, 10:57:19 AM
Quote
and the chemical that is released when we stroke a dog is released by the dog also.

This programme was fascinating and now I know why Jazzy loves a massage!  She sits there with complete joy written all over her face - pity she hasn't learnt how to reciprocate......yet!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 07, 2010, 12:53:53 PM
and the chemical that is released when we stroke a dog is released by the dog also.
Is that dopamine Mark? Wish I'd seen the programme. May look on the i-player?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: annew on January 07, 2010, 02:33:50 PM
Oxytocin - the hormone that's released when a woman breastfeeds. It strengthens the mother/baby bond, and presumably soes the same for the owner/dog one.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 07, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
Oxytocin - the hormone that's released when a woman breastfeeds. It strengthens the mother/baby bond, and presumably soes the same for the owner/dog one.
So it's almost a sexual thing? :o
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 07, 2010, 07:17:25 PM
No Anthony it's to do with bonding not bondage ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 07, 2010, 07:51:29 PM
and the chemical that is released when we stroke a dog is released by the dog also.
Is that dopamine Mark? Wish I'd seen the programme. May look on the i-player?

No Anthony, it's dogamine.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 07, 2010, 07:54:18 PM
The collie who knew 300 different objects by name was amazing.

I didn't see the programme being outside of the UK (why don't BBC get their act together?) but I'm hugely impressed that a collie could name 300 different objects. :D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 07, 2010, 07:56:22 PM
Not just name them, Lesley, but also collect them and pair them even if one image is only in 2D - incredible!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 07, 2010, 08:40:47 PM
That's an amazing command of language for a dog. I suppose his accent is that of his owner? ::)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2010, 08:49:37 PM
That's an amazing command of language for a dog. I suppose his accent is that of his owner? ::)
Most likely "dog" latin, Lesley?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 07, 2010, 09:24:19 PM
Oh yes, of course. (I thought I wasn't getting through there for a minute ::))
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lvandelft on January 07, 2010, 09:51:46 PM
Nothing special maybe, but in the morning two days ago we saw two foxes around the house.
The first two pictures are made from the house and the other three near the rubbish behind the shut down nursery.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2010, 10:05:32 PM
Beautiful pictures, Luit... what a fantastic colour their coats are ..... no fear of mice or voles for your garden, then?  :D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 07, 2010, 10:26:54 PM
Luit do you feed it?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: art600 on January 07, 2010, 10:42:40 PM
What amazing photographs.  The birds are wonderful and the Gentians a real bonus
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 07, 2010, 10:45:08 PM
I know they're pests or vermin. I know they eat people's chickens and raid rubbish bins in the towns but it cannot be said that they are not beautiful. A fine winter coat and on the whole, he does look very well fed for the current conditions.

Maggi, I just noticed that you have slipped over the 12,000 barrier. Bill in Tauranga will be gnashing his teeth in frustration. :D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 07, 2010, 10:55:15 PM
Quote
Maggi, I just noticed that you have slipped over the 12,000 barrier.

Goodness, so I have.... I wondered what the bump was.... thought I was just slipping on the snow.

I haven't seen our local Reynard recently and I don't think any of the tracks in the snow are his, though Lily examines them all carefully.
As pests go, they are very lovely in their red fur coats.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lvandelft on January 07, 2010, 11:17:12 PM
Luit do you feed it?

What do you think Mark?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 07, 2010, 11:33:31 PM
Feed it? If I had one visiting I would feed it. All I see are c?t prints in the snow
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 08, 2010, 09:12:02 AM
That's an amazing command of language for a dog. I suppose his accent is that of his owner? ::)
Most likely "dog" Latin, Lesley?
Not doggerel?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Susan Band on January 08, 2010, 09:23:25 AM
I don't count foxes as pests in my field, they work hard at getting the mice and occasional rabbit. I have banned the farmer that rents my hill from shooting them. I was following the foxes footprints following a rabbits prints then he suddenly appeared, Heather then started chasing him!
Yesterday I saw some blood and rabbit fur in the snow, the footprints belonged to a stoat or weasel though.
Susan
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 08, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
Saw a fabulous red coated young fox this morning which visited our chalet, jumping the gate to look for food and ate a bowl of sausage meat stuffing put out for the birds!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 08, 2010, 08:27:30 PM
One good thing about the snow cover.... it helps one to track the rabbits points of entry and exit around the garden     unmistakable 1 2 Flop footprints.  we have the dachshunds on the case.  OK  they never catch the bunnies but sure give them a fright.   
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 08, 2010, 08:33:22 PM
An amazing sight this evening. A robin has taken to lodging in our garage, also our dog's residence. I went in to the garage this evening to find the robin perched on the side of the dog's bowl, picking away at his food. He wandered over and began eating but paid no attention to the robin, a casual  look and no more. The robin did no more than hop off the bowl and continue eating the bits on the floor so the two ate away beside each other.

Paddy
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 08, 2010, 08:37:05 PM
Obviously not a bird dog, Paddy.


Gwen, yes, the tracking  capacity provided by the snow is very useful..... mice in my case!

I saw mini dachshund pups advertised in the P&J yesterday......... thought of you, of course! I have had a notion for a mini wire haired dachshund pet for forty years..... one of these days! These pups were in Wick.... how the blue blazes I would get up there at the moment I don't know... Ian heaving sigh of relief!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 08, 2010, 10:15:01 PM
This is one of my ponds I think our stray cat thought there was a free meal, you can see his paw marks going around the bird.
Sorry the picture isn't very good, my snow pictures always seem to come out blue.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 08, 2010, 10:18:42 PM
Angie thats a lovely bit of walling round your pond,i'm a landscape gardener and i can't help but notice these things.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 08, 2010, 10:21:49 PM
Angie snow photos always come out blue. I'm sure someone can explain why and how to stop it
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 08, 2010, 10:44:26 PM
Angie thats a lovely bit of walling round your pond,i'm a landscape gardener and i can't help but notice these things.

I must look to see if we have photos of some rockwork Angie's husband did on a rock garden the Aberdeen Group of the SRGC did in the garden at the Craibstone College.... the man's an artist.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gerdk on January 09, 2010, 09:31:48 AM
Ice-breakers!

Gerd
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2010, 11:16:34 AM
I have a first in my garden today. I have been in this house over 20 years and today there is a fieldfare feeding on apples I put out. Not so much feeding but fighting off the blackbird, thrush and redwing.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 09, 2010, 11:26:43 AM
Mark, I have just one Fieldfare as well and lots of Redwings. the Redwings will not share food but this morning the Fieldfare and a Redwing were sharing the same apple. Most unusual.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 09, 2010, 11:35:48 AM
There's a female Smew on Linlithgow Loch at the moment.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: ashley on January 09, 2010, 11:44:54 AM
Large numbers of redwing in the Cork area now, possibly moving south and west from the cold weather
(short article in today's Irish Times here (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0109/1224261978119.html)).

Drinking water is much appreciated by garden birds, although needs regular de-icing.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Hristo on January 09, 2010, 11:50:08 AM
Anthony, is that pronounced 'Smew" or 'Shmoo", if the latter then I have a pic!! ;D
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_N9jg0Z3A_G4/SYawRYg2YCI/AAAAAAAAATM/PFo6pSyDpeg/s400/shmoo.jpg)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 09, 2010, 11:53:29 AM
I had to leave the pond pump running night and day to keep a supply of water for the birds, some of them are even bathing in the small waterfall. if I switch off the pump the filter system freezes up and is very difficult to get going again.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 09, 2010, 01:27:16 PM
Anthony, is that pronounced 'Smew" or 'Shmoo", if the latter then I have a pic!! ;D

Smew (Mergellus albellus) is pronounced as it is spelled. ;) (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/smew) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smew
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 09, 2010, 01:52:53 PM
Maggie i would love to see the photos of Angies husbands rock work and your right it is an art form,i have a chap who is 62 who i get to do all my dry stone walls(i can do it but this guy is artist)i just stand in awe at his work.I love looking at dry stone work when im on my travels(much to my wifes annoyance)the regional differences are fantastic.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Richard Green on January 09, 2010, 02:20:29 PM
This column of Ivy has had its leaves eaten completely up to about one metre from the ground by deer this week.  The same has happened to a different variety of Ivy on the house wall.  Deer have good taste as they have also chewed the nice small leaves of Rhododendron but left the large coarse ones. The second picture is of the culprit - a roe deer - you can see it is standing near the evergreen Viburnum tinus (on the far right of the photo) which it has also stripped up as far as it can reach.  Sorry for the poor quality but it was taken in the twilight at max telephoto. I suppose I have to be sympathetic given the current climate!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 09, 2010, 02:41:39 PM
I expect you may find the deer dead later, Richard.... a friend in Aberdeenshire did after it ate her rhodos a few years ago.... no injuries, just well grown but dead deer. Her son is a vet and said  he thought it was likely the rhodo foliage was the cause of death.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 09, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Maggie i would love to see the photos of Angies husbands rock work and your right it is an art form,i have a chap who is 62 who i get to do all my dry stone walls(i can do it but this guy is artist)i just stand in awe at his work.I love looking at dry stone work when im on my travels(much to my wifes annoyance)the regional differences are fantastic.
No luck finding them so far, I'm afraid.  :-[
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: johnw on January 09, 2010, 02:54:21 PM
I expect you may find the deer dead later, Richard.... a friend in Aberdeenshire did after it ate her rhodos a few years ago.... no injuries, just well grown but dead deer. Her son is a vet and said  he thought it was likely the rhodo foliage was the cause of death.

Maggi;

How I wish it were true but I think the vet was quite wrong.  A friend here has had over 10,000 rhododendrons - lepidotes, elepidotes, azaleas - completely eaten by introduced white-tailed deer.  The only ones left on 30 acres are those over 8 feet tall, all the foliage and branches have been eaten up to 8 ft.  A life's work down the drain.   Taxus, magnolias, mt. laurels and hollies included. They have knocked the deer-fencing down, out-smarted electric fences and are probably joining the slow food movement and planning a move to other delicacies.  Some may even be SRGC members!

The problem is wide-spread all the way down the east coast.

johnw
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 09, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
John, a horrifying tale of destruction.

I do hope there are not too many SRGC members in their number.....we do have a goodly quotient of old dears but most of our members are just darling....... ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Richard Green on January 09, 2010, 03:23:08 PM
I am not sure about Rhodos, but I thought I heard somewhere that Ivy contained Hydrocyanic Acid and was poisonous if not fatal.  It causes mild skin irritation for me when I cut it back off the wall without gloves.  However I think the amimals are probably desperate at this time of year.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Roma on January 09, 2010, 05:44:00 PM
Roe deer seem to be able to eat ivy with no ill effects.  No ivy near my house has leaves below roe deer head height.  When I worked at the Cruickshank Garden in Aberdeen by the end of winter ivy which had spread as groundcover at the edge of the arboretum was reduced to leafless stalks.  I watched one eating yew in the rock garden.  She did die eventually several years and a few babies later.  Bergenia was another favourite, also pulsatilla flowers.  It was a bit disappointing to watch the flower buds developing on big clumps of possibly hybrid self sown pulsatillas and come in one morning to find them all eaten.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Richard Green on January 09, 2010, 05:56:10 PM
Hmm.  Luckily my Bergenias are all well covered with snow just now, and I hope the deer will have gone - permanemtly - back up the hill behind our house before spring comes.  This year has been the worst winter damange by them we have had for many years.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 09, 2010, 06:07:38 PM
Surviving the cold in the Swiss Alps you need a feather duvet....like this bird in the hoar frost this morning!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 09, 2010, 06:55:20 PM
Robin,  lovely picture, I just wonder how these little chaps survive these cold frosty nights. I always am out first thing to make sure there feeders are full. I like Michael keep my pond running as this gives them water at all times.

Dave we love building walls some are drystone and some we have to use cement . Would love to see some pictures of your landscaping.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2010, 09:34:48 PM
That's a chaffinch Fringilla coelebs Robin and Angie. They are quite adaptable in the winter and eat small to large seeds.

The fieldfare was in the garden until after dark so I suppose I will find it frozen in the morning
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 09, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Oh Mark I hope not :o
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 09, 2010, 09:44:02 PM
Quote
That's a chaffinch Fringilla coelebs Robin and Angie. They are quite adaptable in the winter and eat small to large seeds.

Thanks Mark for naming this lovely little chaffinch, they have great character they queue up on the flight path to the seed dispenser with other birds in the trees close by.... :D

This evening the young fox returned and apparently looked through the window at me pressing its nose to the glass as it stood on top of the table outside - all this seen by Anthony from his office whilst I, unaware, was on the Forum with my computer screen hiding the fox from me!  It had returned for the remains of turkey trimmings...
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 09, 2010, 09:58:42 PM
I can imagine that many more foxes will be lining up for a dinner of that calibre Robin! :D

We saw on TV news a couple of nights ago, a brand new ice breaker ship about to go to the Antarctic. I can't remember the name or where she was registered, but it occurred to me that maybe she should have a few mallards on board. :) I think it was a luxury tourist vessel. but Google has let me down this time.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: t00lie on January 09, 2010, 11:03:17 PM
From my aviary

Canary---poser  :D

Male Quail --very hard to get a good pic of this fellow   >:(  --he's always on the move.

Couple shots of the native red crown  ?? parakeet--Kakariki --Unfortunately in the wild they often feed on the ground rather than in the canopy, making them susceptible to predators.

In the close up pic i see there is a bit of yellow on one of the birds forehead -- at one stage i had yellow crowns as well ,(they are very similar --just smaller with yellow crowns ),so there may have been some interbreeding.

They have a rapid, direct flight, usually above the canopy and often accompanied by a rapid loud chatter: "ki-ki-ki-ki-ki".  When feeding they are either silent or babble.
My ones ,(2 males i bred--1 old female) ,chatter to each other especially when i provide them with stems of the native fuchsia and other flowering/berried natives.

Cheers dave.

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 09, 2010, 11:53:43 PM
I expect you may find the deer dead later, Richard.... a friend in Aberdeenshire did after it ate her rhodos a few years ago.... no injuries, just well grown but dead deer. Her son is a vet and said  he thought it was likely the rhodo foliage was the cause of death.
A friend of a colleague regularly shoots roe deer. His family won't eat it unless it has been made into burgers or sausages! I despair! :'(
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 10, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
A few pics taken through the window of the birds feeding in garden this morning. The temp has risen to -6C today.

Where did you put those  mealworms.
Waiting for a drink
Goldfinches
Having a drink
Nice juicy apple
The last of the ham.
Where did that piece of apple go?
That's my slice of bread, (yes I know I shouldn't feed them bread.)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 12:59:16 PM
Lovely selection of birds Michael.

Dave, before I read your post I guessed your kakariki had yellow genes. In the Uk they are known as red-fronted and yellow-fronted. The mutations available over here are amazing blue, pieds, yellow, cinnamon, buttercup, red splashed yellow. Are they available in NZ?

Kakarikis are famous for being the only parrot that can climb without using it's beak. That included upsidedown
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Gwenblack on January 10, 2010, 01:58:49 PM
The  wholesaler from whom we buy wild bird food has run out of supplies twice since Christmas   That tells us something about folk around here AND   what might happen to the bird population if we didn't feed them.   I tried twice unsuccessfully this morning to take a photograph, fit to post, of one of the large windows in our  first floor sunroom   The whole room  is prone to bird strikes despite our glittery stickers,  especially when young birds are about but......yesterday and today,   we had two strikes   one from a wood pigeon and one from a collared dove  both leaving powdery imprints of both outspread wings and the central body on the glass.  We are becoming expert in saving the victims lying stunned below the window by bringing them indoors, keeping them warm, dark and quiet for as long as it takes for them to announce that they are ready to fly.  The most precious was a goldcrest   a great delight to hold the tiny thing,  but greenfinches, Great tits, siskins and chaffinches are the most numerous of the rescued.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
Pigeon ghosts on windows look like snow angels
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
The fieldfare is still alive this morning
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Martinr on January 10, 2010, 02:46:45 PM
Not all birds are lucky! I looked out of the window 5 minutes ago and, for the first time in weeks, there wasn't a single bird hanging around the feeders. Thought it was a bit odd till I spotted the Sparrowhawk having lunch on the bridge over our stream. Ah well, that's another bird successfully fed :(
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
They sprrowhawk will have caught a slow or sick bird

Just had a blackcap pass through the garden. I'll go out and wedge an apple in the tree
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Richard Green on January 10, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
Grrrrrr...... They are at it again this morning in broad daylight - this one was barely 10 meters from the house.  It is also after my Hebe bushes and has started on the Cornus in the background.  My neighbour is equally incensed and now has his rifle at the ready because they have raided the sprouts in his vegetable garden.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Martinr on January 10, 2010, 03:44:34 PM
Survival of the fittest among the birds in our garden is very appropriate as Darwin's grandfather(?) Erasmus Darwin is buried in thevillage. That's my useless fact of the day!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
Here's a fieldfare in the garden today
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 10, 2010, 04:40:53 PM
Mark: Thought you'd like to see the distribution of overwintering Fieldfares in Scandinavia over this last week with temperatures under -30C in some places where they've been seen. Pretty hardy birds in other words - as long as there is food they survive these temperatures. I still have one in my garden too..

http://www.artportalen.se/fennoscandia_birds.asp?speciesid=612&year=2010&month=1 (http://www.artportalen.se/fennoscandia_birds.asp?speciesid=612&year=2010&month=1)

By the way, doesn't the UK have a similar reporting system? If not, why not (UK is renowned for having the greatest birdwatcher density in the world, I think?). We now have on-line reporting for everything from birds to mammals to insects, plants, fungi etc...
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 04:48:28 PM
I'm not aware of one Stephen. That reporting sysytem you show is really good. Who inputs the details?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 04:55:36 PM
I've looked up many birds. There is always a large cluster of dots in southern Finland. Is there a bird clup there?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 10, 2010, 05:01:43 PM
Ordinary people do - the worst errors are however removed! The Fennoscandia birds site is the only one that covers several Scandinavian countries so far - it gets its data from the national schemes: e.g., artportalen.se (Sweden) and artsobservasjoner.no (Norway). You can either enter your observations on a daily basis (it took a minute or so to enter today's observations in the garden) or you can just enter your observations on an Excel sheet and submit in that form when you have time. Many people are also putting in old observations. You can then search by place, by species, by time (year, month, day). It's easy for example to extract all observations made today in your area.  
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 10, 2010, 05:03:36 PM
I've looked up many birds. There is always a large cluster of dots in southern Finland. Is there a bird clup there?

That's where most people live...(probably Helsinki)

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 05:11:16 PM
Thanks Stephen. Ill pass the web site link to birders I know

I would like to know why the fieldfare is known as a felt in N Ireland. Is it an Irish word, Paddy/Ashley/Michael?

What is it called across Europe?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 10, 2010, 05:55:55 PM
I have no idea Mark, it was always known as the Blue felt when I was young, and only in later years did we know it was also called a Fieldfare.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 10, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Michael, lovely pictures of all your well fed and happy birds in your garden.

Mark nice to see that the fieldfare made it through the night.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 06:08:48 PM
If you have a beak use it
http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=197598&recent=1&db=0 (http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=197598&recent=1&db=0)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 06:25:41 PM
and sometimes it gets you in trouble :'(
http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=197471&recent=1&db=0 (http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=197471&recent=1&db=0)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 10, 2010, 06:33:30 PM
Here are some Dutch names for birds that are very similar to English names
Knobbelzwaan, Waterhoen, Waterral, Tjiftjaf, Fazant, Koperwiek, Buizerd, Roek, Boerenzwaluw,
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 10, 2010, 07:04:05 PM
There is a very busy fieldfare in the garden here.  While they are common and numerous in the fields round about they seldom come into the garden. Likewise with the redwings.

Unusually, the fieldfare is eating the crabapples from Malus 'Golden Hornet' which would appear to be unpalatable at this time of the year as they are all gone brown long since but the fieldfare is in the tree all day long even defending his perch against Mistle thrushes.

Paddy
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 10, 2010, 07:25:16 PM
Unusually, the fieldfare is eating the crabapples from Malus 'Golden Hornet' which would appear to be unpalatable at this time of the year as they are all gone brown long since but the fieldfare is in the tree all day long even defending his perch against Mistle thrushes.

It will be an alcoholic Fieldfare...desperate for another fix!

Waxwings are known to get drunk on too much fermented fruit.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 10, 2010, 09:47:54 PM
Survival of the fittest among the birds in our garden is very appropriate as Darwin's grandfather(?) Erasmus Darwin is buried in thevillage. That's my useless fact of the day!

So presumably he wasn't very fit? at least near the end.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 10, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
While feeling deeply for all the birds and other animals which are suffering so badly in the northen hemisphere winter this year, I have to appreciate that the weather has provided so many more opportunities to photograph the wild ones, we, especially in the south where many or most contenders are unknown, being the beneficiaries.

That poor fish Mark, two large hooks having taken its life before the comorant (shags to us) got his beak on it.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 10, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
I sympathise with the cormorant, since it looks like the hooks are stuck in his bill....but the fish is a fake, Lesley.. it's a fishing lure  ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 10, 2010, 10:43:13 PM
Oh, so just poor cormorant then. Should have realized there was something fishy going on, but I'm no fisherperson (but am always PC, as you see).
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 10, 2010, 11:17:34 PM
Here cormorants and shags are different species. I remember a field trip to Millport, Isle of Cumbrae. One of the projects involved studying eiders. As an introduction we went sea bird spotting. The commentary (imagine more than one voice) went: "eider, eider, cormorant, eider, shag, no I wouldnae...........eider, eider....."
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 10, 2010, 11:55:42 PM
I wouldnae eider. :D We have black and pied but all are referred to as shags. Between Dunedin and Timaru where I used to live, is Shag Point. A prominent person from the RBG Kew, when he travelled that road with me, wanted to go there to see what was happening. :o
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: johnw on January 10, 2010, 11:58:42 PM
A friend in Holland just sent me this photo of a wonderful bird in her yard.  She says in Dutch it is a Flemish Jay. Can someone identify it?

johnw
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lori S. on January 11, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
It is referred to simply as "Jay" (Garrulus glandarius) in our old Birds of Europe... who knows how often the common name may have changed since then, though?

Edit:  And, I should add, it may well have been reorganized into some other species since that publication... I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: johnw on January 11, 2010, 12:11:20 AM
Thanks Lori. It's a handsome one.

johnw
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lori S. on January 11, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
Certainly is... in flight, the blue-striped bands extend all across the upper wing, and the speculum beneath is white, bordered crisply by black, according to the painting in the book.  Must be spectacular to see.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 11, 2010, 12:32:26 AM
Jays are pretty widespread in the UK, though we don't see them very often here... there was great excitement when we spotted one just down the road a couple of years ago. Smart looking bird, bigger than a Fieldfare.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Susan Band on January 11, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
Usually they are seen flying across the road when you are driving through woods. You don't often get to see them close up.
Susan
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: t00lie on January 11, 2010, 08:10:36 AM

Dave, before I read your post I guessed your kakariki had yellow genes. In the Uk they are known as red-fronted and yellow-fronted. The mutations available over here are amazing blue, pieds, yellow, cinnamon, buttercup, red splashed yellow. Are they available in NZ?

Kakarikis are famous for being the only parrot that can climb without using it's beak. That included upsidedown

Mark
I haven't seen the mutations in NZ and i doubt they exist---part of my Dept. Of Conservation permit in allowing me to house the birds was that i needed to keep the yellows and reds in separate aviaries and no interbreeding.
My hybrids came about from buying a female that looked true red but must have had some yellow crown genes in it's background.

Cheers dave.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 11, 2010, 09:07:49 AM
It is referred to simply as "Jay" (Garrulus glandarius) in our old Birds of Europe... who knows how often the common name may have changed since then, though?

Edit:  And, I should add, it may well have been reorganized into some other species since that publication... I wouldn't know.
Neither name has changed Lori. They are quite common in the woods near me, but rarely come into my garden.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 11, 2010, 01:46:56 PM
A friend in Holland just sent me this photo of a wonderful bird in her yard.  She says in Dutch it is a Flemish Jay. Can someone identify it?

johnw

We have a pair visit our garden every year, they seem to be shy, they stay back until most of the birds have ate there fill. I never see them in the summer must disappear into the woods behind our house. The first time I saw one I thought it was a bird from another country as the were so colourful. Are they related to the Magpie family as they are similar.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 11, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Yes, Angie, Jays are in the Crow family......... just really well dressed!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 11, 2010, 01:59:51 PM
Yes, Angie, Jays are in the Crow family......... just really well dressed!

Liked that one Maggi ;)
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 11, 2010, 03:13:01 PM
The European magpie is a crow also
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 11, 2010, 06:11:19 PM
Walking up the road I saw tiny Wren hopping from rock to rock and then it disappeared into this hole - a winter hideout   ::)  8)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 11, 2010, 07:30:39 PM
Usually they are seen flying across the road when you are driving through woods. You don't often get to see them close up.
Susan
That's exactly how I saw one, many years ago, in the far south of the UK. East sussex, if I remember. Just a flash of blue and it was gone but never forgotten. :D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 11, 2010, 07:35:21 PM
Walking up the road I saw tiny Wren hopping from rock to rock and then it disappeared into this hole - a winter hideout   ::)  8)

Are you sure it wasn't a rock-hopper penguin Robin. Seems cold enough. ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 11, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
I checked the number of observations of Wrens in Norway this weekend compared to last weekend (with -20C in many coastal areas where they overwinter in between). 70% drop in observations in only a week! Sad, but not surprising for a bird that rarely takes food from us. A silent spring for the fantastic song of the Wren I fear  :(

This reminds me of a BBC programme years ago where they slowed down the song of different birds (a kind of sound microscope) and revealed a new world. For the wren "One song phrase 8.25 seconds long, when stretched out to 66 seconds, reveals 103 notes, which means that the bird is singing at a rate of 740 notes to the minute!" We have to slow down the song of the wren about 10 times to be able to separate the individual notes! It seems that it's now been proven that birds like the wren do actually hear all the notes....

I got the details from the following site: http://www.bl.uk/listentonature/specialinterestlang/langofbirds6.html (http://www.bl.uk/listentonature/specialinterestlang/langofbirds6.html)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 11, 2010, 07:46:22 PM
You can also listen to the slowed down song of the closely related (with similar song) North American Winter Wren (click on the mp3 link). The Internet's amazing isn't it? A 25-year old memory brought to life in a moment....

http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote-transcript.cfm?id=406
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 11, 2010, 09:53:47 PM
Walking up the road I saw tiny Wren hopping from rock to rock and then it disappeared into this hole - a winter hideout   ::)  8)
I saw a couple of wrens yesterday. One completely disappeared right into a snow covered tussock of grass, and only when it reappeared was I sure it was a wren and not a mouse. The tussock is just to the left of the wren.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 11, 2010, 10:21:54 PM
Robin the species name for the wren means cave dweller!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 11, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
Stephen, thanks for the Birdsong link , fascinating listening - I do so love these little birds and was thrilled to find a spot where maybe might see it again - many more birds have come on the scene since the sun came out but it is very cold.

The Wren looked very agile even in the cold, Lesley, meanwhile I feel like a penguin in my winter outfit  - it's like a long black sleeping bag with a hood  ;D

Anthony, lucky you to have seen two wrens - do they just shelter in these places or do they nest in these same holes in walls and tussocks in the Spring?  

Mark, you always come up with such interesting information - I had always thought of Wren's in mossy nests but this one definitely lives up to its name as a cave dweller and I wonder what it is like inside   :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 11, 2010, 11:25:24 PM
These are not shelters. They are very actively looking for food in these holes and tussocks. Wrens roost in communal holes such as nest boxes and, I would suspect, not head there until after dark, as they spend all the time they can hunting for insects etc.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 12, 2010, 09:46:08 AM
Anthony, I noticed that a spiders web was attached to the side topside of the hole - would the Wren have been after anything in caught in do you think?  I stood for some while watching for it to exit the hole but it didn't.  Will keep an eye on this spot in future in the hope of seeing it again - it was indeed late afternoon low light when I saw it hopping about.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 12, 2010, 09:50:28 AM
The birds are so active at the moment and enjoying the sun - this one blackbird looked so handsome in the fir tree with his orange beak glowing like an amber traffic light - had me singing the Blackbird song :D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 12, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
Beautiful picture - and thank you for the confirmation that the sun is still up there; hopefully will see it again next weekend for the first time in a couple of months!

We should have a facility on this site for posting sound files - would have been interesting to hear a Robin mimicking a Blackbird ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 12, 2010, 10:37:50 AM
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We should have a facility on this site for posting sound files - would have been interesting to hear a Robin mimicking a Blackbird

Stephen, I agree and had thought about trying to do this using the HD video on my camera to record the sounds....
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 12, 2010, 11:10:51 AM
For three years in the early 1980s we had a blackbird that sung the first five notes of "Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer". Naturally, we called him Rudolph. :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Richard Green on January 12, 2010, 12:54:32 PM
The Starlings around us mimick everything so well that I sometimes do not believe it and have to stop and listen to make sure it really is them doing it.  They do Buzzard, Swallow, Curlew, Seagull, Spotted Woodpecker, and even a mobile phone and ambulance siren.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 12, 2010, 02:11:12 PM
Anthony, I noticed that a spiders web was attached to the side topside of the hole - would the Wren have been after anything in caught in do you think?  I stood for some while watching for it to exit the hole but it didn't.  Will keep an eye on this spot in future in the hope of seeing it again - it was indeed late afternoon low light when I saw it hopping about.
More likely to be looking for the spiders and any egg batches?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: jomowi on January 12, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
Re wrens: I love their furtive habits.  We can look out of our upstairs windows (dormer bungalow) and watch them in the gutter looking for food.  They then disappear up the scrolls of the tiles and emerge some time later further along.  Am I right in thinking that wrens will only feed on what they catch "on the Hoof?" Certainly they don't feed on the bird table.  If this is correct, then "wren food" sold in garden centres is a con.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 12, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
I've never seen wren food but would think they wouldnt take it because they dont know yet to come to bird tables. They might take it if it contains mini meal worms.  Long-tailed tits have just learnt to come to feed on peanuts. Last winter I saw so many long-tails on a feeder the peanuts couldnt be seen.

I'm so jealous. A neighbour just phoned to tell me she had two treecreepers in the garden. I think to myself she hasnt got a tree or bush in the garden so ask if they were working along the fence. The answer was they were on the ground poking in the grass. The Belfast Telegraph had a bird poster in the paper yesterday and she identified them  ::)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 12, 2010, 08:50:57 PM
Do you want to guess what they were? Her description was excellent. Long beak, brown, long legs, eating grass
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 12, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Could be kiwis, looking for insects among the grass. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Paddy Tobin on January 12, 2010, 10:01:05 PM
Curlews?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 12, 2010, 11:49:36 PM
small garden in a housing estate. Darker than a curlew and shorter legs
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 13, 2010, 01:39:27 AM
Two woodcock or snipe. Just shows how hungry they are
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 13, 2010, 11:05:01 AM
Just going through some old pictures. I thought that this was a magpie moth, but googling it I see it isn't. So, therefore I'm asking here. Should be an easy one...

The second also needs a name - dig those thigh muslces...
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 13, 2010, 11:10:46 AM
Two woodcock or snipe. Just shows how hungry they are

I should think the chances are it was a Woodcock - a woodland species that I've seen a couple of times in my garden. Snipe is more an open country bird.

...and here's the evidence. See the following link for the Irish Garden Bird Survey. Click on the 2008/2009 survey report and you'll see there were 5 sitings in gardens last winter presumably pressed into gardens by cold weather(at the bottom). Likely to be more than that this winter!

http://www.birdwatchireland.ie/Default.aspx?tabid=121 (http://www.birdwatchireland.ie/Default.aspx?tabid=121)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 13, 2010, 11:34:27 AM
Just going through some old pictures. I thought that this was a magpie moth, but googling it I see it isn't. So, therefore I'm asking here. Should be an easy one...

The second also needs a name - dig those thigh muslces...
Your moth is a Scarlet Tiger (Callimorpha dominula) and the beetle is a male Oedemera nobilis Stephen. The latter is a pollen feeder.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: vivienr on January 13, 2010, 02:42:37 PM
I see that, in a change to the schedule, the Springwatch team are putting on a Snowwatch programme at 8pm on BBC 2 tonight looking at how wildlife is coping with the weather.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 13, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Thanks Vivien. I better option than CBB ::)

It is really important to try and look after our birds in severe weather. I feed them all year. I dont use fat falls because there are too many big birds. Yes I know they need food also. The last few weeks could cause huge losses in small birds like wrens and goldcrests.

My fieldfare is still here.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 13, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
Your moth is a Scarlet Tiger (Callimorpha dominula) and the beetle is a male Oedemera nobilis Stephen. The latter is a pollen feeder.

Many thanks, Anthony. As you managed them, one more for you:

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 13, 2010, 08:40:24 PM
Looked out my window this morning to see how much snow had melted and standing on the frozen water of my pond was a Heron, he was standing just at the waterfall which I keep running to keep the pond open and also gives all the little birds water when everything else is frozen. Luckily he didn't get any fish this time but I bet he will be back really early tomorrow morning looking for breakfast.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 13, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Have you got a tin of sardines in the cupboard, Angie.... you could give him a gourmet breakfast?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 13, 2010, 10:32:41 PM
Maggi , got plenty of sardines I could give him for breakfast but I think he will get something scary in the morning if he comes back ( me first thing in the morning) I wouldn't even have to shout to scare him off ;D
Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 13, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
How's your road doing for ice now, Angie? Are you planning to go to the Friends of the Cruickshank Botanic Garden tomorrow .... Ian is the speaker.... I can't remember if you attend that or not.... if you're going to be there, I'll bring your Forum shirt and  fleecy. Then if you 're going out to scare the wildlife you can be the best dressed scarey wifie!!  ;) ;D

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: angie on January 13, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
Sounds good to me, our road has still parts of thick ice on it. Derek will take me tomorrow as I still don't have my car back, the less said about that the better ::)

Angie :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 13, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
I still don't have my car back, the less said about that the better ::)

Angie :)
Right you are.....[attach=1]
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 13, 2010, 11:27:37 PM
Your moth is a Scarlet Tiger (Callimorpha dominula) and the beetle is a male Oedemera nobilis Stephen. The latter is a pollen feeder.

Many thanks, Anthony. As you managed them, one more for you:


I would suggest Pimpla sp.? P. instigator is one species, and their larvae are internal parasitoides of moth and butterfly larvae.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 14, 2010, 08:10:29 AM

I would suggest Pimpla sp.? P. instigator is one species, and their larvae are internal parasitoides of moth and butterfly larvae.

Thanks again. Certainly looks like this! Seems it is a relation to the Ichneumon wasps used in biological control?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 15, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
Derby's peregrines feed at night!!
http://derbyperegrines.blogspot.com/ (http://derbyperegrines.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Martinr on January 15, 2010, 06:15:03 PM
Mmmm...question is how far out of the city centre did it have to go to find a woodcock?

One of Derby's biggest pedestrian hazards can be avoiding the twitchers hanging round the statue of Bonnie Prince Charlie!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 15, 2010, 09:58:36 PM
Mmmm...question is how far out of the city centre did it have to go to find a woodcock?

One of Derby's biggest pedestrian hazards can be avoiding the twitchers hanging round the statue of Bonnie Prince Charlie!
Not far, apparently, as there had been an influx due to the bad weather.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 16, 2010, 12:21:26 AM
Yes, there are more around in unexpected places..... Mark's friend had two feeding on her lawn... I was shocked to have one fly up out of the garden here a couple of weeks ago .... never seen them in town before...in fact , they're not birds we see often at all, even around here in the countryside  :(
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 16, 2010, 10:12:26 AM
This morning for only the second time there was a Hawfinch on the bird feeder! This is a species which has expanded a lot in recent years here..

And, it's back! The sun finally made an appearance this morning and time for the annual snow dance...



Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 16, 2010, 10:23:10 AM
I was sorting some old photos during the week. Thought this might interest some of you. This is the rarest bird I've seen in the garden, sadly dead... One May morning in the mid-90s my young daughter came in saying that there was a bird dead on the doorstep. I went out, glanced at it and dismissed it as a Robin that the cat had probably caught. Luckily my wife also had a quick look. That's not a  Robin she said. She was right. However, I had no idea what it could be. Leafing through one of my bird books I found it - a Red-breasted Flycatcher! We have breeding Pied Flyacatchers in the garden, but this turned out to be a sensation as it was the first observation of this species in my county! The picture is scanned from a print. It's now in the local natural history museum...

  
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: daveyp1970 on January 16, 2010, 10:48:22 AM
Stephen thats a fantastic find(not for the bird)we have plenty of spotted flycatchers in the woods near me i have never seen a pied though that would be dancing on the spot moment.Could you please post a pic of the pied when you get chance.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 16, 2010, 11:54:57 AM
Do you have a picture showing the front of the bird too Stephen?  A sad end to such a beautiful bird but wonderful that your wife recognised the significance of the Red-breasted flycatcher  :)

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and time for the annual snow dance...

Hoping to see some photos of this event and find out more about the celebration  ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 16, 2010, 12:07:46 PM
Stephen thats a fantastic find(not for the bird)we have plenty of spotted flycatchers in the woods near me i have never seen a pied though that would be dancing on the spot moment.Could you please post a pic of the pied when you get chance.


Strange as it may seem, I don't have a single Pied Flycatcher picture and I've found more dead Red-Breasteds! Far too common I guess....
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 16, 2010, 12:10:25 PM
Do you have a picture showing the front of the bird too Stephen?  A sad end to such a beautiful bird but wonderful that your wife recognised the significance of the Red-breasted flycatcher  :)

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and time for the annual snow dance...

Hoping to see some photos of this event and find out more about the celebration  ;)

Sorry that's the only picture I've found so far - will post when I eventually find more.

Photos of the event?: Don't think you really want to see pictures of a Red-breasted Stephen....the snow impression will suffice, I think - you can imagine the rest... ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 16, 2010, 12:50:18 PM
Red-breasted flycatcher
http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?mode=search&sp=137063&rty=0&r=1&v=0&off=204373 (http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?mode=search&sp=137063&rty=0&r=1&v=0&off=204373)

There was a rarity arrived in the UK recently that hit the news and newspapers but for the wrong reason. While being watched by a mob of twitchers a cat caught it.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 16, 2010, 01:37:14 PM
Thanks for the link, Mark, a very attractive looking bird and some lovely photos of them in the wild  :)  Do they appear in Europe?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 16, 2010, 02:29:02 PM
They do http://www.birdguides.com/species/species.asp?sp=137063# (http://www.birdguides.com/species/species.asp?sp=137063#)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Roma on January 16, 2010, 10:21:04 PM
At last I have managed to get a pic of a squirrel in the snow.  It is easy to get them on the peanut feeder but they usually run off when I point the camera at them on the ground. 
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Diane Clement on January 16, 2010, 10:23:11 PM
At last I have managed to get a pic of a squirrel in the snow.  It is easy to get them on the peanut feeder but they usually run off when I point the camera at them on the ground.  

Very nice red squirrel, Roma, I wish we had those instead of our big grey brutes.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 16, 2010, 10:29:58 PM
Roma please show us a larger photo of the cutie.

I read online yesterday that greys are about to invade the highlands and on the east coast have arrived in Aberdeen. Ian and Maggi what ill you do when they arrive in AB15
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 16, 2010, 10:42:48 PM
They're here, Mark. And with Brian and Maureen down the road.They've been all through a lot of this area for a long time.... but now there is a scheme to trap them in the woods in the town and nearby in an attempt to slow them down. I think they are catching them, but whether or not in sufficient numbers to make a difference I don't know.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Roma on January 16, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
There are greys a few miles from here.  Apparently they follow  beech trees.  The Forestry Commission wanted to cut some mature beech trees to stop the grey squirrels from spreading but locals did not want them cut.  They no longer plant beech trees round the edge of conifer plantations as the greys cannot survive in pure conifer forests like the reds.  
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Diane Clement on January 16, 2010, 11:15:02 PM
There are greys a few miles from here.  Apparently they follow  beech trees.  The Forestry Commission wanted to cut some mature beech trees to stop the grey squirrels from spreading but locals did not want them cut.  They no longer plant beech trees round the edge of conifer plantations as the greys cannot survive in pure conifer forests like the reds.  

These are fantastic, Roma, thanks for showing them.  Which species do you have in NI, Mark?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 16, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Fantastic photos of Red Squirrel Roma - as you say, they are so wary of being photographed, so yours is a real coup.  Here I have seen them in the forest but they are smaller and almost black with red tinge and long ears - really gorgeous to watch as they are such acrobats in the pine trees.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 16, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
Diane our reds are almost gone except for County Fermanagh and Belvoir, said bever, Forest in Belfast. Greys are spreading fast in my town
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Sinchets on January 17, 2010, 09:18:26 AM
I think the colour changes as you move across Europe, Robin. Here they are almost black with reddish undercoat.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 17, 2010, 09:32:28 AM
Yes, Simon, their characteristics are very different to ones in Scotland with longer, thicker fur and much more compact and very vocal in warnings to each other.  Do you have any photos of Reds with you? 
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 17, 2010, 12:54:42 PM
The Hawfinch was back again today briefly and I managed to get one distant shot:
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 17, 2010, 01:04:02 PM
Excellent photo anyway. You also have greenfinches! It's a long time since I saw one over here. Yellowhammers are like hen's teeth. What other finches do you have?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 17, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
This winter: Siskin (up to 20), Greenfinch (very common with flocks up to 50 in some years, but hit by the Greenfinch version of Swine flu this autumn) , Bullfinch (up to 10), Hawfinch.

Most winters: Chaffinch, Brambling (both usually up to 3 or 4), Goldfinch (up to 10), Redpoll (invasion species, can be hundreds when plenty of birch seed, not one this winter)

Occasional: Crossbill/Parrot Crossbill (more common in the country around)

In the countryside only: Two-barred Crossbill (small invasion this winter), Pine Grosbeak (rare), Arctic Redpoll (rare), Twite (rare), Linnet (rare)...

Think that's about it  :)
 
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 17, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
So far the Siskins have been keeping to the larch tree and peck at the cones but late afternoon as the weather changed they were on the peanut feeder, feeding so fast this was the best I could do for shots in focus!  I love their yellow bib and speckled waistcoat   8)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Armin on January 17, 2010, 05:40:55 PM
Super shots from your feeder stations.

Nice to see a picture of a hawfinch, bullfinch and siskin. All three are quite rare in my region I live.

Today afternoon a sparrowhawk flew an attack to my bird feeder. I relised it by the panic shrieks of blackbirds and sparrows. Unfortunately until I found my camera he disappeared... After the attack there was 20 minutes silence on my feeder... First birds returning were great and blue tits.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 17, 2010, 07:15:33 PM
A couple of years ago Hawfinches were found in N Ireland
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 17, 2010, 07:44:39 PM
I thought that Hawfinches were relatively common in the UK as they have increased in numbers in recent years over here. I remember, when I lived in Edinburgh, that there were reports from the Botanics, but I never saw one. Now I see that according to Wikipedia they were formerly found at the botanics and that they are best known at Scone Palace in Perth:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawfinches_in_Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawfinches_in_Britain)

...and youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNJEhjQ-TU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNJEhjQ-TU&feature=related)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 17, 2010, 08:03:08 PM
Thanks for the Youtube link.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: fredg on January 20, 2010, 06:22:03 PM
This little girl paid us a visit today.

That pigeon doesn't look too happy.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 20, 2010, 06:38:02 PM
Is that a rock pigeon in it's talons? I don't mean rock dove.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: fredg on January 20, 2010, 07:11:25 PM
It's a feral pigeon Mark, I wish she'd take a few more. ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 20, 2010, 08:43:57 PM
OK. The shoulder speckles look similar to those on the rock pigeon
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Hristo on January 23, 2010, 11:15:27 AM
Nature may abhor a vacuum but in our garden she seems to abhor trellace work!
The Great Spotted Woodpecker is doing its best to demolish the aforementioned structures! :D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 23, 2010, 11:27:45 AM
Lucky shot, Hristo, not woodpecker vandalism surly  :o  maybe insects overwintering on the trellace  ::)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Hristo on January 23, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
The wood is impregnated with alkalyd wood preservative to kill beasties and fungus so I am guessing we just have a bolshie woodpecker! We have been trying to photograh our Haw finch but it refuses to settle!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 23, 2010, 02:08:36 PM
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The wood is impregnated with alkalyd wood preservative to kill beasties and fungus so I am guessing we just have a bolshie woodpecker!
...very strange

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We have been trying to photograh our Haw finch but it refuses to settle!

Good luck, meanwhile.....

Crested Tit, one of my favourites, hiding in the fir trees - almost impossible to capture naturally as they move so fast  8)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Arykana on January 23, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/ismeretlen.jpg)

 has sunbath in the nut bush (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/kati-4.jpg)

she try to catch a bird (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/vadsz.jpg)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Hristo on January 25, 2010, 07:05:55 AM
Love the picture RR, that is one beligerant looking tit, defo deserves some kind to 'Athena' style caption! ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 25, 2010, 07:36:07 AM
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defo deserves some kind to 'Athena' style caption

What's the caption then?  ::)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: ranunculus on January 25, 2010, 09:30:59 AM
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defo deserves some kind to 'Athena' style caption

What's the caption then?  ::)


Look back in anger?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 25, 2010, 10:48:42 AM
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defo deserves some kind to 'Athena' style caption

What's the caption then?  ::)


Look back in anger?

Good one Cliff  8)

or:

"Are you a man or a mouse?"
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Hristo on January 25, 2010, 01:15:52 PM
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defo deserves some kind to 'Athena' style caption

What's the caption then?  ::)


Look back in anger?

Good one Cliff  8)

or:

"Are you a man or a mouse?"

Hows about;
You lookin at me? You lookin at me? or,
Like I said to Alfred Hitchcock, you don't wanna make me mad!
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 25, 2010, 11:03:57 PM
One of the redpolls in my garden wasn't feeling good today. I managed to catch it just before dark. Unfortunately it has gone to bird heaven. They are soooo small with mini beaks. I'll take some photos tomorrow
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 26, 2010, 12:37:24 PM
Could someone identify this one for me. Thanks. Sorry for the poor picture.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 26, 2010, 03:48:08 PM
Agrion virgo. A species of damselfly.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 26, 2010, 06:51:20 PM
Lesser Redpoll - Carduelis cabaret
For a LBJ it's got some nice colours but wht would it need that dagger for a back toe!

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 26, 2010, 10:47:26 PM
The wood is impregnated with alkalyd wood preservative to kill beasties and fungus so I am guessing we just have a bolshie woodpecker! We have been trying to photograh our Haw finch but it refuses to settle!
Aha! Woodpecker on drugs! 8)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 26, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
Lesser Redpoll - Carduelis cabaret
For a LBJ it's got some nice colours but what would it need that dagger for a back toe!


Nothing is there for no reason, so it must be required for holding onto what ever it preferred perch is, or be required for holding on to access food.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 27, 2010, 07:28:17 PM
Our redpolls, and we have a resident flock lately, eat grass seeds almost exclusively. We have so much long grass here at present. So such feet are not needed for the clinging onto grass stems. What else do they eat? Small insects maybe, caught on the air.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 27, 2010, 07:35:38 PM
Lesser Redpoll - Carduelis cabaret
........... why would it need that dagger for a back toe!


Going by my sister in law's canary:  just to hold itself upright on a twig.  :-X
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 27, 2010, 08:08:23 PM
Lesley is your redpoll our redpoll?

You should buy some niger feeders. They will love it.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: TC on January 27, 2010, 09:50:14 PM
The Redpoll in N.Z. is Carduelis flammea-an introduction from Europe.  The only difference I noted that it seemed lighter in colour than our U.K. specimens.
In fact, all the introduced passerines looked much paler than their U.K. counterparts.  The Yellowhammer was especially notable in being "washed out" looking compared with the rich deep yellow here.  An leading ornithologist we stayed with had noticed the same thing on his visits to the UK.  His theory was that it was caused by the very high levels of ultra violet light found in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 28, 2010, 03:51:21 AM
I'm surprised that our redpoll is paler than the UK version. It is a mid brown, the males with a rich and quite large red spot on the head, like a large drop of blood, and a rosy chest. The female has a smaller, head spot and not so obvious but still red. The breast seems not to be other than the brown of the rest of the body.

As to yellowhammers, again, the male has a bright and stong yellow head, to the extent that for a while I thought he was our very rare native yellowhead, Mohua ochrocephala. The female (yellowhammer) is a yellow/brown mixture, rather striated throughout.

Having said that, this morning I found a black sock on the lawn, having dropped it there when bringing in the washing on Monday before going away for a couple of days. The "black" sock is now a light and streaky grey on the upper side where the sun hit it.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 28, 2010, 09:11:52 AM
The Redpoll in N.Z. is Carduelis flammea-an introduction from Europe.  The only difference I noted that it seemed lighter in colour than our U.K. specimens.
In fact, all the introduced passerines looked much paler than their U.K. counterparts.  The Yellowhammer was especially notable in being "washed out" looking compared with the rich deep yellow here.  An leading ornithologist we stayed with had noticed the same thing on his visits to the UK.  His theory was that it was caused by the very high levels of ultra violet light found in New Zealand.
I think the UV angle is a red herring, unless darker forms are selected against. It will be a gene pool thing. When ever populations are separated, isolation, mutation and natural selection will favour certain genotypes. It may be that lighter ones have an advantage over darker ones?
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 28, 2010, 10:09:19 AM
How are yellowhammers doing in NZ? In N Ireland they are on the red list and mostly confined to the northwest and southeast

Niger seeds may not work in NZ because the birds wont know what it is.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 28, 2010, 07:49:22 PM
I don't know in general Mark but around here they seem to be doing very well. I only saw the occasional one a few years ago but now I see them daily if not in my own garden, then flying across the road or on the roadside when I drive to town and also in local parks, gardens etc.

I was going to ask, what IS niger? I don't know it at all except as an African country and as a hellebore. :)

As to local birds not knowing it, they'd soon learn. Local goldfinches didn't know lavender before I came here but now they swarm on the bushes in late autumn and through winter and eat the seed with great determination.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2010, 07:54:34 PM



 Nyjer seed page....http://www.ebirdseed.com/nyjer_niger_thistle_birdseed.html
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 28, 2010, 08:53:38 PM
Thank you Maggi. From the wesite I put the botanical name into the Bio Index and it is a permitted species as seed (plants - "Requires assessment") so if I wanted I could bring in some seed for bird feeding. Having said that, our birds don't suffer as yours do, with our much milder winters so probably they are able to get what they need easily enough.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 28, 2010, 08:57:47 PM
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Local goldfinches didn't know lavender before I came here but now they swarm on the bushes in late autumn and through winter and eat the seed with great determination

Now there's a thought Lesley, I've always concentrated on the flowers with insects and butterflies but never thought of birds eating the seeds - next year I'll leave some for the birds in winter instead of trimming the stalks after flowering and see what happens.  :)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 28, 2010, 09:30:11 PM
I didn't plan for this extra food source Robin. As with many garden tasks, the trimming didn't get done and that happened to work to the birds, advantage. I've not seen other birds than the goldfinches on the lavenders but maybe they just haven't needed them yet.

Early in the week I spent three days at my son's house some 150 north of here. He manages a dairy/beef fattening unit with around 800 cows and 300 young bulls there at present. Below the house though is a long thin lavender paddock where someone else leases a few acres for lavender, cut for the oil. The days were still and very hot (low 30s) and the air, even in the house, filled with wafts of lavender scent, a lovely time.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 28, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
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The days were still and very hot (low 30s) and the air, even in the house, filled with wafts of lavender scent, a lovely time.

New Zealand's Provence  :D

Smells/Sounds wonderful...

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around 800 cows and 300 young bulls there at present


Plenty of manure coming in handy as well I imagine  ;)
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 28, 2010, 10:28:57 PM
Well my John is no gardener (nor Susan, nor any of my 5 grandchildren. :'() so I don't think he's too concerned with the available manure. But there is a large garden there and I brought home cuttings from a grey willow, (one I think I introduced almost 30 years ago but had long since lost for whatever reason. I think it was left in a previous garden but I had sold a number of plants from my Timaru nursery) and a chunk of the variegated Astrantia 'Sunningdale' which I'd lost a couple of years ago though east coast drought.

I also brought home a dead hare, caught but abandoned by one of the cattle dogs. Cain and Teddy are enjoying it. It was very big - bigger (longer) than Teddy.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Ragged Robin on January 28, 2010, 10:56:30 PM
Well the smell of the earth will mean something: "home"  It's in the blood, even if they are unaware of it at the present.  ;)

Hope your grey willow cuttings grow on well - they add such a lot to the landscape during the year.

Was it a jugged hare recipe you used for Cain & Teddy  ;D
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Arykana on January 31, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
yes I know, I locked  safety, even myself cannot open
but here:
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/egynk.jpg)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/etet.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/fenyke.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/lakoma.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/trsulat.jpg
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/vrs.jpg)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/vrsbegy.jpg
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/vrsbegyi.jpg)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/vrske.jpg
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/zldi.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/zldike.jpg)(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/havasgak.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/kertem.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/Winter%20Garden/rozmari.jpg)




hope not too much :-*

Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 31, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Bramblings - very nice http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=171261 (http://www.birdpix.nl/album_page.php?pic_id=171261) I have never seen one.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 31, 2010, 07:17:27 PM
We have very occasionally had a pair of Bramblings visit the garden..... can't say I remember ever having seen as many as Erika shows us.... I wonder if all the males were around there somewhere, too?

Very smart photos on tha twebsite, Mark, thanks.
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: mark smyth on January 31, 2010, 08:28:02 PM
Maggi it's a mixed flock at the food. The birds with darker heads are males. There is at least one female
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Arykana on February 01, 2010, 06:18:45 AM
Bramblings seem very aggressive, usually not let any other bird to the feeder - we have enough in this winter, like clouds they come down from Poland and Ukraine
Title: Re: Wildlife -January 2010
Post by: Stephenb on January 10, 2011, 09:24:53 PM
Do you have a picture showing the front of the bird too Stephen?  A sad end to such a beautiful bird but wonderful that your wife recognised the significance of the Red-breasted flycatcher  :)

Found a full-frontal picture of our Red-breasted flycatcher today (reported on in this thread a year ago) and took a digital shot of it along with a couple of others, one of my daughter who found the bird holding the deceased... (in her fitting Extinct is Forever T-shirt ;))
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