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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Thomas Huber on December 07, 2009, 01:52:58 PM

Title: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Thomas Huber on December 07, 2009, 01:52:58 PM: Hello - can anybody give me a name to this plant, flowering in Liguria/Italy in the beginning
of April on 1200m altitude?

Sorry, posted this two times by mistake - Maggi could you please delete this one?
Wasn't there a "delete"-button in the posts long time ago?
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy
Post by: Maggi Young on December 07, 2009, 01:57:01 PM: Yes, Thomas, there was such a button... I will remove it for you. ;)

I think the yellow Dentaria is Dentaria enneaphylla
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Sinchets on December 07, 2009, 02:04:43 PM: Or it could be Cardamine (Dentaria) kitaibelii.
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Maggi Young on December 07, 2009, 02:29:50 PM: Simon, since you mention it, I believe that Dentaria enneaphylla may now be referred to as Cardamine enneaphylla :-\

We're back to the "plants don't read the maps" scenario.... isn't Cardamine (Dentaria) kitaibelii from Croatia......how far a leap is that to Liguria? ???

Geography is certainly not my strong point! :-[
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Thomas Huber on December 07, 2009, 02:53:15 PM: Thanks Maggi for deleting my mistake.
After having a look into the Flora Italia I found that both (Cardamine kitaibelii and elleaphyllos)
- http://luirig.altervista.org/schedeit/ae/cardamine_enneaphyllos.htm -
occour in Liguria, but from the photos I googled I think that Simon is right, because kitaibelii
has finer leaves like my plant has, while the leaves of enneaphyllos are much broader.
Thanks Simon - hope to see the plant again next April.
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Maggi Young on December 07, 2009, 03:10:59 PM: Yes, I see that the leaves are more narrow.
Mr Kitaibel actually described several Cardamine/Dentarias, I think.... small world, isn't it? ;)
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Sinchets on December 07, 2009, 03:38:34 PM: My pleasure. There are some lovely members of the genus- great for ground cover in the woodland garden :)
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Thomas Huber on December 07, 2009, 03:47:05 PM: Simon, if you want I could try to collect some seed next year for your help.
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 07, 2009, 08:53:05 PM: Aha!!! So Thomas has lost his "Remove" button too. Perhaps we all have? ???

The yellow Dentaria is a beauty. :)
Title: Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
Post by: Maggi Young on December 07, 2009, 09:13:15 PM: Quote from: Lesley Cox on December 07, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Aha!!! So Thomas has lost his "Remove" button too. Perhaps we all have? ???

The yellow Dentaria is a beauty. :)

Yes, Lesley, I think the Remove button waslost with a Forum upgrade ..... I still have it in my moderator's capacity. ;) :-X