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Title: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: cycnich on November 22, 2009, 12:22:32 PM
I was very lucky to be in the Pelopponese with Melvyn Jope, Peter Moore and Roy Skidmore for 8 days a fortnight ago. I have a big interest in Cyclamen leaves and in particular Hederifolium and graecum. Here are some that we saw.

Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: cycnich on November 22, 2009, 12:30:48 PM
And some Graecum
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: mark smyth on November 22, 2009, 12:40:01 PM
Welcome to the forum!

The selection of leaves is amazing
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Maggi Young on November 22, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
Hello, Pat! A warm welcome to the Forum: as you know by now, you are the 1000th registered active Forumist .... and I am happy to convey the best wishes of not only all the Forumists, but also of Past SRGC President Ian Christie and our newly elected President, Liz Mills to you. We are all looking forward to learning more about your plants and your travels and trust that you too will gain enjoyment from your Forum membership.  :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: David Nicholson on November 22, 2009, 07:32:31 PM
Welcome Pat and a smashing first set of pictures too.
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 07:35:05 PM
Pat,

A wonderful selection of foliage, great variety of markings.

Paddy
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: angie on November 22, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
Hi Pat, thanks for sharing your plants, with foliage like that the flowers would be a bonus, Welcome to the forum.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Gerdk on November 22, 2009, 07:45:46 PM
What a variation! It seems hederifolium is trying to surpass graecum!
Never saw a Cylamen with Galanthus flowers - nature's caprices?  ;)

Gerd
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: cycnich on November 22, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
What a variation! It seems hederifolium is trying to surpass graecum!
Never saw a Cylamen with Galanthus flowers - nature's caprices?  ;)

Gerd

Galanthus cyclameneus we called it
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 22, 2009, 09:43:27 PM
Ahhh, the beautiful - and rare - Cyclamen galanthiflorum!
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Post by: Lesley Cox on November 22, 2009, 09:44:14 PM
Nice little dog there too. :D
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Post by: Ragged Robin on November 22, 2009, 10:14:02 PM
Wonderful shapes and markings on the Cyclamen leaves, Pat, and I love the planting of Graecum in the rocky crevices - the leaves look wonderful in this setting. Looking forward to seeing more of your photos  :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Paul T on November 23, 2009, 03:16:17 AM
Stunning, Pat.  Particularly 2009_11140139.JPG with it's flower and those breathtaking leaves.  Never seen a graecum like that before!  :o :o  I'll have one of each for my collection please.  ;D ;D ;)  Thanks for sharing the pics.
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: ranunculus on November 23, 2009, 09:39:17 AM
Welcome Pat ...great start!
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Post by: ian mcenery on November 23, 2009, 10:34:11 AM
Welcome Pat and thanks for the photos - always great to see them in the wild.
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Post by: Joakim B on November 23, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Great set of photos Pat and thanks for showing.  :o ::)

Loved the combination with white tall flowers ::) A very rare one I guess. ;D Maybe something to strive for?
Did You also see variation in flower types and colours?

Looking forwards to further posting
Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Tony Willis on November 23, 2009, 01:17:34 PM
Very nice and interesting pictures Pat,good to see.

I read in Jim Archibalds latest list that we now have a new sub species of Cyclamen hederifolium-crassifolium.Are any of your pictures of it?
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: art600 on November 23, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
Tony

The new sub species was described in the June Journal of the Cyclamen Society.  If you are good I will let you read my copy when you visit  8)
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: cycnich on November 23, 2009, 04:27:38 PM
Very nice and interesting pictures Pat,good to see.

I read in Jim Archibalds latest list that we now have a new sub species of Cyclamen hederifolium-crassifolium.Are any of your pictures of it?

Hi Tony
           The last 3 plants are from sites where ssp crassifolium is known to grow and I would be happy to call them that. I am not a botanist or a scientist just someone who grows plants, however I have been involved with the society field trips that led to to the conclusions regarding ssp crassifolium and cyclamen confusum as it is now. I do feel we still have work to do to determine the distribution because there are sites where it seems ssp crassifolium and ssp hederifolium grow together or close to each other. I know it is not very scientific but you get a gut feeling for what you are looking at and can tell the difference but as I say more work needs to be done and possibly new material collected for research.
           
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: cycnich on November 23, 2009, 04:33:10 PM
Great set of photos Pat and thanks for showing.  :o ::)

Loved the combination with white tall flowers ::) A very rare one I guess. ;D Maybe something to strive for?
Did You also see variation in flower types and colours?

Looking forwards to further posting
Kind regards
Joakim

Yes the were variations, not so much in colour but in size and shape etc.
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on November 23, 2009, 04:34:38 PM
Great series of Cyclamen leaves Pat !!!  8)
Thanks for sharing and welcome to the forum !!
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Tony Willis on November 23, 2009, 07:53:30 PM
thanks Pat,I am growing a number of plants from that area and was wondering into which category they fell.

I will study the article whilst Arthur is cooking me a sumptious lunch
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: Paul T on November 23, 2009, 11:28:06 PM
Tony

The new sub species was described in the June Journal of the Cyclamen Society.  If you are good I will let you read my copy when you visit  8)

Arthur,

What are you, Santa Claus or something?  :o  You only get your presents if you're good little boys and girls.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cyclamen in the Pelopponese
Post by: art600 on November 24, 2009, 12:23:50 AM
Paul

A youngster like you wouldn't understand.
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