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General Subjects => Alpines => Topic started by: Harry Jans on November 19, 2009, 04:36:06 PM
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Dear friends,
It took me quite a while, but finally you can take a virtual tour to Tibet (and Switzerland as well)
In June/July this year I organized a botanical jeep tour from Chengdu to Lhasa. We crossed 13 high mountain passes up to 5008m.
The highlight was the Galung La (4400m) with plants like Caltha sinogracilis f. rubriflora (purple!!!) and many other super plants.
Next to that we saw further on 200+ Rheum nobile.
I am sure you will see some very special plants, you never seen before.
Go and have a look at http://www.jansalpines.com/index.php?page_id=0&lang=en
Go to IMAGES --> GALLERY
I hope you will enjoy it.
Cheers Harry
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Harry,
EXCELLENT!! Glad that you've joined the forum. You have friends and fans here already and many more will discover you. Hope all is well...(and warm wishes to the family!).
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It's take a while to find the pages so here are the links for everyone else
Travel photos http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=826 (http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=826)
Tibet http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1187 (http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1187)
Switzerland http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1218 (http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1218)
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WOW i have just looked at the Tibet photo's they are incredible,now to look at the rest.
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A marvellous collection of images. Thank you for posting the link.
I have been revisiting the Valais. Many familiar places and plants. I saw a great variation in Saxifraga x kochii in the same area as your pics. What dates were you there? I was in first half of July each time but the weather was not always as good as in your images. Above Hohsaas was deep snow which had arrived the previous night. I must return for a walk to Weismeisshute.
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just starting on these, looks like it will take a while :) worth noting if you are looking at these: when you click on an individual photo you will get details of name, location etc; just looking at the galleries, there is no indication that information exists
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Amazing pictures Harry !! :o :o
Your site is slowly turning into a Mecca for alpine plant lovers !
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Harry, I'm thrilled to learn and enjoy through your fabulous gallery of Swiss Alpines closely associated with the area where I am in Valais....thanks so much for the link and I am also much looking forward to your other galleries - great photos all round.
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Dear all,
These are some of the best plants I saw in Tibet.
-Caltha sinogracilis f. rubriflora
-Primula agleniana
-Omphalogramma tibeticum
-Lilium saccatum
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INCREDIBLE Caltha, Harry ... many thanks for posting!
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Dear all,
These are some of the best plants I saw in Tibet.
-Caltha sinogracilis f. rubriflora
-Primula agleniana
-Omphalogramma tibeticum
-Lilium saccatum
like cliff, i am very impressed with the caltha! somewhere (probably on or through this forum, i think it was someone's travel pictures) there was a picture of a full slope of red/pink caltha, in china, maybe this same one...
hope to see it turning up on seed lists ;D
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Cohan, maybe you are thinking of these threads......
...... these coloured Calthas of various species have been mentioned a couple of times in the Forum .....see these pages.....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3658.msg96275#msg96275 Caltha palustris var. barthei
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=542.msg13852;topicseen#msg13852 but these are in cultivation... :-\ ????
EDIT: Ha! No, it was here..... http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3911.msg103200#msg103200
there are a couple of Caltha in this thread from John Mitchell. 8)
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I like the delicious pink primula best, but the little lily is a gem too.
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Cohan, maybe you are thinking of these threads......
...... these coloured Calthas of various species have been mentioned a couple of times in the Forum .....see these pages.....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3658.msg96275#msg96275 Caltha palustris var. barthei
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=542.msg13852;topicseen#msg13852 but these are in cultivation... :-\ ????
EDIT: Ha! No, it was here..... http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3911.msg103200#msg103200
there are a couple of Caltha in this thread from John Mitchell. 8)
that's it exactly, maggi--as soon as i saw the thread back up high on the list in travel, i knew that was the one...that view of the caltha on the mountainside is amazing! perhaps i find them so exciting because we have bazillions of C palustris growing wild here, and they are lovely, but of course all regular deep yellow..
thanks for the other links on other coloured C palustris--had not seen those..
any seedlists anyone can think of that are not already in the links that carry flora of these areas? i remember at least one of the czech lists with some chinese plants...(not that i am assuming they are hardy here, but with enough altitude..)
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Hi Cohan,
If you like special Caltha, here a few more.
-Caltha palustris var. barthei (3x)
-Caltha palustris var. chinensis (black leaf form)
All seen during my Sichuan trip in 2007
Hope you like these.
Harry
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I would give a the yellow and red one a home
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The dark leaves with the yellow flowers are very attractive. They would be too, on the white form. :D
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Hi Cohan,
If you like special Caltha, here a few more.
-Caltha palustris var. barthei (3x)
-Caltha palustris var. chinensis (black leaf form)
All seen during my Sichuan trip in 2007
Hope you like these.
Harry
Harry - Just when I was tickled to get seed of a white one from the Himalayas you would have to show a red one. I never dreamt there was such a thing.
It's smashing.
johnw
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Hi Cohan,
If you like special Caltha, here a few more.
-Caltha palustris var. barthei (3x)
-Caltha palustris var. chinensis (black leaf form)
All seen during my Sichuan trip in 2007
Hope you like these.
Harry
oh, i like these very much, harry, thanks! i esp like the red form, and the one with dark leaves!
ours have darkish leaves when first emerging, but lose it later;
i was noticing these chinese plants seem to have more textured or at least duller leaves-ours are quite smooth/shiny, almost succulent..
i was checking to see if had posted any pics that illustrate that before, but i didnt this spring, so i just stuck in a couple here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3546.45
bottom of the page..
john--white would be very nice too! i dont grow the white mountain species yet, but i hope to..
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Hi Cohan,
The Caltha you posted are more a less the same we have here in Holland.
I like these too!
To make it even worse, here one which is in cultivation in some gardens. (I have never tried it myself)
Its very widespread in China. A common species.
-Caltha scaposa
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Hi Cohan,
If you like special Caltha, here a few more.
-Caltha palustris var. barthei (3x)
-Caltha palustris var. chinensis (black leaf form)
All seen during my Sichuan trip in 2007
Hope you like these.
Harry
Yes Harry, this brings back all the good memorys of that wonderful trip to Sichuan that you organised .
The Caltha's we saw are one of the many highlights there and indeed scaposa got to be mentioned.
I tried it once in our garden ,it survived one winter but died in the hot summer that follows.
I could hardly choose between scaposa and barthei but because of the red flowers it must be barthei.
The purple one you showed us (sinogracilis)is heavenly! I allready choose this one as plant of the year.
Why is it not growing in our "Ardennen" ..
I must check your website again ,it is a more like a bible for Chinaplants .
At this moment I am on tour with the lecture I made of this wonderful trip to Sichuan.
I never show you this pictures I think ?
en de groeten aan Hannie!
Saussurea medusa
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harry--i like the scaposa too! i will add that to the list to watch for seed of ;)
kris--beautiful photos--i love the last with clouds behind! what is the plant? its wonderful!
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Harry,
Incredible, unforgettable plants and pictures! Thank you very much posting them! You inspire me to think again about visiting Tibet.
I like Primula algeniana most of all.
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Kris, are your three stunning pictures of a Saussurea? If so, which one?
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I think all the Wolly Balls from Kris are Saussurea leucoma (Balang Shan 4400m)
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Thanks Harry. And very beautiful they are in that setting, almost like some kind of alien propagating pods, like some of the super fungi pictures in other threads. :D
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I think all the Wolly Balls from Kris are Saussurea leucoma (Balang Shan 4400m)
Harry ,it is not Saussurea medusa ?
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Kris, sorry. I was wrong ??? Yes it is Saussurea medusa.
I mixed this one with the Saussurea I saw in Tibet last July, which was S. leucoma.
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those saussureas are surreal! reminiscent of certain haworthias...interesting genus indeed...
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Here are a few more from my Tibet trip.
I always wanted to see this super gentian after seeing a slide from George Smith about 25 years ago.
It was growing in scree conditions at 5008m
Tried several times to grow it from seed but.....................................I failed!
Gentiana urnula
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What beautiful and extraordinary plants! Thanks for posting!
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INCREDIBLE AND BEAUTIFUL.
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We always lust plants we can't have/grow
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Here are a few more from my Tibet trip.
I always wanted to see this super gentian after seeing a slide from George Smith about 25 years ago.
It was growing in scree conditions at 5008m
Tried several times to grow it from seed but.....................................I failed!
Gentiana urnula
another wow! funny that another asian high alpine plant reminds me of a south african succulent--these ones resemble Crassula sp in foliage (shape, not succulence)..
did it simply fail to germinate for you? or it germinated but didnt live?
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G. urnula, the holiest of holy Gentiana grails!
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btw, i saw some of these saussureas on the Vojtěch Holubec seedlist,
http://www.villevekster.com/wildseeds.html
and some sp also at pavelka (not sure if they are the hairy cylinder sp)
http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/
you may need to email the second for up to date list, i did..
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Here are a few more from my Tibet trip.
I always wanted to see this super gentian after seeing a slide from George Smith about 25 years ago.
It was growing in scree conditions at 5008m
Tried several times to grow it from seed but.....................................I failed!
Gentiana urnula
another wow! funny that another asian high alpine plant reminds me of a south african succulent--these ones resemble Crassula sp in foliage (shape, not succulence)..
did it simply fail to germinate for you? or it germinated but didnt live?
I had once seeds, and only one germinated.
It died during the hot summer. (as most of these very high alpines do)