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Title: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: art600 on November 16, 2009, 12:44:14 AM
On my recent holiday in Turkey I was lucky to see hundreds of Galanthus peshmenii in flower.  Until now I had thought there was little variation other than size of inner mark.  I remember the excitement generated when Tony Willis showed a rock covered in peshmenii showing green outer tips.

In two different locations I found two exciting forms:-

1).  Green outer markings that were the same colour and shape as the inner markings.  I apologise for the very poor photograph taken back in the hotel room on a single flower.  I think it shows the marks quite clearly.

2).  A poculiformis without a trace of green.  Again apologies for the very poor photo of the inner.  Photos taken on a flower in the hotel room.  This plant was growing in a rock crevice.
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: johnw on November 16, 2009, 12:58:13 AM
Good grief those are strong outer markings!  If those asleep only knew.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: art600 on November 16, 2009, 01:23:23 AM
Good grief those are strong outer markings!  If those asleep only knew.

johnw

John

I have never seen anything quite like it - not sure there is a reginae-olgae equivalent.
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: johnw on November 16, 2009, 01:25:01 AM
Arthur - I wonder if there is any equivalent.  ::)  You are certainly burning the midnight oils.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 16, 2009, 06:17:34 AM
very interesting flowers, very ..........pics ;), Arthur!
I believe, the outer markings aren`t not only green tips. It much more interesting. You saw a plant with the effect of "equal" marks on all segments. Best example is TRYM. The outer green is much deeper, then you can find it on "normal" tips.

Nice poculiforme, I like these "hololeucus".
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 16, 2009, 08:49:24 AM
Arthur,

Extraordinary flowers. Excellent finds.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 16, 2009, 09:28:39 AM
That'll teach me for going to bed early!  Wonderful finds Arthur, I suspect that there are many interesting forms out there, comparable say to the variation Melvyn has found in reginae-olgae.
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: snowdropman on November 16, 2009, 09:52:30 AM
I suspect that there are many interesting forms out there, comparable say to the variation Melvyn has found in reginae-olgae.

Arthur - great finds.

Brian - if you have not already ordered it, then I recommend that you send off for a copy of this year's RHS Daffodils, Snowdrops & Tulips Yearbook where you will find an excellent article By Hagen Engelmann entitled "Galanthus peshmenii, a snowdrop with many different faces" which contains a fantastic gallery of 9 photographs demonstrating the immense variability of this species.
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 16, 2009, 12:17:06 PM
Cheers Chris, It is sitting in my pile of things to look at.  I was caught up in a thriller by Stieg Larsson and can now find time to read it ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: art600 on November 16, 2009, 03:05:08 PM
Brian
There was a reference to the Yearbook elsewhere on the Forum and how to get it for £9.  Did you make a note - I did not  :-[
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Maggi Young on November 16, 2009, 03:08:50 PM
Brian
There was a reference to the Yearbook elsewhere on the Forum and how to get it for £9.  Did you make a note - I did not  :-[


Look here, Art!
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4486.msg120514;topicseen#msg120514
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: mark smyth on November 16, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
Mine is usually £8 but it was £10 this year.

Lovely snowdrops Arthur.
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 16, 2009, 09:55:18 PM
Cheers Chris, It is sitting in my pile of things to look at.  I was caught up in a thriller by Stieg Larsson and can now find time to read it ;D



Ah, a man who likes to pass his time in pleasantly irrelevant fiction. Read the third in the series a few weeks ago. Enjoyed it.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: KentGardener on November 22, 2009, 05:46:26 AM
Very nice Arthur.  The photographs show the flowers well.  I like them both.
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Hans J on November 22, 2009, 08:30:59 AM
Paddy + Brian :

I'm just also reading the third book of Stieg Larson ...really good !!!

what a pity that this man has died ...
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 11:30:35 AM
Paddy + Brian :

I'm just also reading the third book of Stieg Larson ...really good !!!

what a pity that this man has died ...

PIty, indeed, Hans. Three good books and his future as an author was guaranteed.

I now have to turn my attention to the 9 gardening books waiting to be read.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus peshmenii
Post by: Paul T on November 25, 2009, 06:13:14 AM
Arthur,

The interesting bit will be seeing what they look like next year and whether the markings (or lack of) are stable.  I hope that they are, as both are brilliant!!  Thanks for showing us.
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