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Title: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on October 24, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
What a year for autumn colours, even in the north of Scotland. It is an amazing year too for Sorbus aucuparia both in the wild and in the gardens   The birds are unable to make any inroads on the crop and fallen clusters of berries litter the ground. A few examples here     Acer tschonoskii Subsp komarovii  from Japan, a three year old shrub in full display,  Sorbus aucuparia Autumn Sunrise a fastigiate tree,    and Acer palmatum Trompenberg changes its burgundy livery for fiery red
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 25, 2009, 10:32:57 PM
What incredible colour Gwen. I love the Sorbus cultivar and I have just been offered seed of the Acer tschonoskii. It is permitted into NZ but I have to get a (very expensive) import permit for all maples, even seed, so have had to say "no thanks." My heart bleeds. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on October 26, 2009, 09:49:31 AM
Glad you like the Acer    it is a real beauty , even when the leaves are green, the petioles are bright red.
I know how NZ is about imports but your flora is worth keeping pure and your ecosystems are worth fighting for.  I recall the embarrassment in Auckland Airport when the official spent twenty minutes rifling my one overstuffed large suitcase seeking illicit organic material which finally turned out to be an oval bar of olive oil soap. It was allowed entry but it took ages to repack the suitcase and everyone had moved on leaving me alone and red faced. 
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 26, 2009, 10:02:53 PM
Oh dear, Gwen. I feel I should apologise for the local Customs people. Organic matter such as plants is one thing, but I wouldn't have expected soap to be a problem. The main thing is to declare everything that could be a problem, but soap??? ??? Of course you're right about protecting our flora/fauna etc but there come a time when a little common sense applied would be a grand thing.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: cohan on October 29, 2009, 05:56:53 PM
What a year for autumn colours, even in the north of Scotland. It is an amazing year too for Sorbus aucuparia both in the wild and in the gardens   The birds are unable to make any inroads on the crop and fallen clusters of berries litter the ground. A few examples here     Acer tschonoskii Subsp komarovii  from Japan, a three year old shrub in full display,  Sorbus aucuparia Autumn Sunrise a fastigiate tree,    and Acer palmatum Trompenberg changes its burgundy livery for fiery red

great colour! that sorbus is really nice!i like the lighter orange berries; my one tree doesnt fruit really heavily, but it has been stripped clean by birds for some time..
i do see really laden trees in the towns around here..
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Eric Locke on October 31, 2009, 07:55:03 PM
An Acer from my garden today.

Edit by maggi : please forgive me, Eric.... I have tweaked your photo... it was a smidgeon dark to see the fabulous Acer!ric
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on October 31, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
Hello Gwen, welcome back. Here's a little something for you. Back in to growth and about to flower.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 31, 2009, 08:25:21 PM
Magnificent colour Eric. I love the "fire" that autumn gives us. Who'd want to live somewhere tropical and not have this stunning display? :D I shocked my post office lady on Friday who was saying she was soon going to Bali for a holiday. I told her I'd rather go to Siberia. I would too.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: cohan on November 02, 2009, 01:33:40 AM
i'll take the subtropical, thanks very much, and have a colourful display of flowering trees and growing plants all year ;)
some of those trees from brasil in marcondes' thread will do fine;
if i'm really craving fall, i have thousands of photos from when i lived in toronto to look back on.. ditto for picturesque snow scenes--i'm building up enough to last a lifetime ...
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on November 04, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
For Mark    so glad to be back and know that someone somewhere still  loves a celandine!!!  I send as reward a picture from Spring 2009 of a new seedling I am nurturing and building up christened El Dorado.an open pollinated specimen from a selected large flowered form of B Hussy but please note the fringed petals
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Paul T on November 04, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
 :o :o  Wow, that is excellent!!  I love the fringing, and the lovely clean yellow against the dark foliage.  Congratulations!! 8)
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Ragged Robin on November 05, 2009, 11:51:46 AM
Congratulations from me too Gwen, such lovely fringing on your El Dorado celendine - just a burst of sunshine in the undergrowth!
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 08, 2009, 10:08:18 PM
Very nice Gwen. Not only fringed but semi double. How long to you have enough to share? :D

I have a seedling with black leaves and  a wild find that has a flash of red down the middle of the leaf.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 08, 2009, 10:12:10 PM
Not quite colours from leaves but look at the berries on this Sorbus Joseph Rock.

I've had the upright Yew standishii for about 6 years and this year is the first it has set lots of berries.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Ragged Robin on November 08, 2009, 10:19:34 PM
Magnificent Mark!  A real Autumn statement!
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 09, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
I should say the Sorbus isnt mine.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 09, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
The golden fruit is superb Mark. Is 'Joseph Rock' a hybrid or just a good form of a species (which?) Does the seed come true or fairly true?
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2009, 12:11:32 AM
S. acuparia, Lesley.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 10, 2009, 12:54:33 AM
That surprises me a little as I though 'JR' was a plant from China (no, I'm not confusing it with the paeony :)) whereas isn't S. aucuparia the European mountain ash and Scotland too?
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2009, 09:06:46 AM
I asked someone and that was the answer but looking up Plant Finder it is listed without a species name
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on November 10, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
Re Sorbus  Joseph Rock
According to Hugh McAllister   sorbus expert and author of the Botanical Magazine Monograph on the genus, S.Joseph Rock is likely to be a hybrid of S commixta which it resembles, in being fastigiate with smallish fruits and finely toothed tapered leaflets . The other parent is possibly . he writes,  S monbeigii . It is said to be very susceptible to fireblight  [ Envynia amylovora   a bacterium ] in the south of England. The specimen I grew in Cumbria was at least 30 years old and healthy and huge  so sadly it was too big to transplant when we came north to Ross- shire so we have had to buy a young one and start over again.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on November 10, 2009, 04:56:39 PM
Re Ranunculus ficaria   El Dorado   
In answer to Mark's query about sharing this celandine    I have a good stock plant in the open garden and two small potted offsets  . There are seven celandine collectors already recorded as being on the waiting list!!!!!!!    I'm trying hard to cultivate it to its optimum.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on November 10, 2009, 05:03:05 PM
More about Sorbus Joseph Rock   Most seedlings from isolated specimens are very similar to the parent according to McAllister but a few that I grew from seed were of a more orangey yellow  not the pale primrose.   Of course the garden was full of other rowans  so my seedlings were likely to be crosses 
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2009, 05:25:17 PM
Am I number 8 :-*
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Gwenblack on November 10, 2009, 05:32:37 PM
Sure Mark   Why not,  if you think you will last that long.  Hope so ! 
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 10, 2009, 07:52:05 PM
Gwen, thanks for that about Sorbus 'JR.' I think I may be able to buy it at a local tree nursery, so will try for that as I love these plants. Having red, orange, pink and white species, it would be good to have a yellow as well.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 14, 2009, 09:16:58 AM
I'll swap you for a bit of this one. No name yet and I'm open to suggestions. These photo were taken yesterday
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Ragged Robin on November 14, 2009, 10:31:15 AM
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No name yet and I'm open to suggestions

'Top Marks'  ::)
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 14, 2009, 09:43:33 PM
An excellent suggestion Robin, or just 'Top Mark.'
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 14, 2009, 09:44:07 PM
Or 'ReMARKable.' :D
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Maggi Young on November 14, 2009, 10:33:15 PM
........ 'Lawn weed' :-X
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Ragged Robin on November 15, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
Or 'ReMARKable.' :D

Yes, Lesley, I really like that one   ;)

Anything with Mark in it hits the mark  ;D
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: angie on November 15, 2009, 05:30:15 PM
Robin & Lesley
Your brains are working well today ;D
Angie :)
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 05:35:40 PM
I like Ranunculus ficaria 'Lawn Weed' :(
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 15, 2009, 08:48:33 PM
How perverse of you Mark. ;D It might get back to bite you and BECOME a lawn weed. Though I was saying to Roger jsut yesterday what a fine display of buttercups we had in own lawn at present, Ranunculus acraeus. It was intended as a reminder that we need a man in, with a sythe. No, not THAT man, not yet, but someone to take down the long grass to a level where it can be mowed again.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 08:53:01 PM
I forgot to add R. f. 'Lawn Weed' not!
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Maggi Young on November 15, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
I forgot to add R. f. 'Lawn Weed' not!
I'm so sad you didn't like my suggestion Mark.....  But impressed your eyesight is good enough to read that tiny script!! Couldn't help teasing about the bttercup.... I tend to be less enthusiatic about these than I do about snowies, though, since I no longer have a lawn, it shouldn't trouble me that much!  ;D :P
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 09:53:08 PM
So you dont want one Maggi?
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Maggi Young on November 15, 2009, 10:09:07 PM
So you dont want one Maggi?

 Kind offer....... let me consider it carefully.......... nah!
Now, that wee Geranium you gave me.... I can never remember its name ( quite deep pink veined flowers, good bronzey foliage??) now THAT was a lovely gift... it's flowering even now. 
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 10:11:11 PM
That's great Maggi - the Geranium. It's name is Tanya Randall
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Maggi Young on November 15, 2009, 10:21:37 PM
That's great Maggi - the Geranium. It's name is Tanya Randall
YES! thank you.... I don't know why I have such a block with the name of it  :-\   I'm thinking now I should have taken cuttings earlier.... bit late now.... must remember next year, I'd like to try it in other places in the garden. Just got it in one trough and a raised bed meantime.
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 10:53:46 PM
A local nursery buys it in as plugs. I can ask her to keep a couple aside
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Maggi Young on November 15, 2009, 10:57:45 PM
A local nursery buys it in as plugs. I can ask her to keep a couple aside
Ach, no, Mark, no need for that.... I should have had my act in gear for the cuttings sooner.... also I never remembered to check if it was setting any seed!  Silly me! :-[
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Paul T on November 16, 2009, 02:57:09 AM
You could always call it "Marketable".  ;D ;)
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 16, 2009, 03:16:13 AM
Then he'd have to be selling it. :)
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Paul T on November 16, 2009, 05:39:04 AM
Lesley,

I'm sure he'd be happy to be selling it!  ;D
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 23, 2009, 02:19:39 PM
Maggi the Geranium doesnt set seeds.

Any names for the celandine?
Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: Maggi Young on November 23, 2009, 03:44:49 PM
Maggi the Geranium doesnt set seeds.


 Aha! That explains a good deal!  :-[

Title: Re: autumn colours 2009 UK
Post by: mark smyth on November 23, 2009, 04:03:41 PM
I have one for you.
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