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Title: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 23, 2009, 04:16:06 PM
Yes, I know! This is not a tropical plants forum. However, I would like to show some plants that grow in the highlands of Minas Gerais state, in Brazil. These enviroments are called 'campos rupestres' which means 'rockie fields' and occur above 1000m high.

I am sorry: the fotos are not good. The problems was behind the camera!

Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2009, 04:21:26 PM
Marcondes, so interesting to see this landscape and the plants. This is how I believe it is best to see grasses.... in wide open wild spaces of real grassland! 8)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 23, 2009, 04:27:43 PM
I am sorry for the grammar error: 'problems was'. I tryed to type this: 'The problem was...'

Here you can seed some irids on the same mountain range:

 Trimezias.JPG
 Trimezia sp.JPG
 Trimezia juncifolia yellow.JPG
 Trimezia juncifolia.JPG
 Unidentified irid.jpg
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 23, 2009, 04:47:22 PM
Hi Maggi! Thanks for your comment. It was really nice to see those plants in the wild. They occur in very well preserved area. It was almost a travel in time.
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 23, 2009, 04:50:44 PM
And finally... the amaryllids fields:

 Amaryllid field.JPG
 Amaryllid.JPG
 Amaryllid three flowers.JPG
 Amaryllid - looks Hippeastrum reticulatum.JPG
 Amaryllid - broad pink tepals.JPG
 Amaryllis - narrow tepals.JPG
 Amaryllid scarlet.JPG
 Habranthus irwinianus field.JPG
 Habranthus irwinianus.JPG
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Sinchets on October 23, 2009, 05:41:23 PM
What stunning plants! Almost like the kind of plants they used as the scenery on the original 'Lost in Space'!!!
Thanks for showing these.  :P
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: BULBISSIME on October 23, 2009, 06:00:11 PM
Fantastic Bulbo, say's Bulbi  ;D
Are you looking for the names of this bulbs ???
They looks like Rodophiala but this genus is not growing in Brazil...
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Ragged Robin on October 23, 2009, 09:09:56 PM
Wow what wonderful grasslands and rockeries, Marcondes, and to find such gorgeous flowers there in such a dramatic setting.  So pleased you showed all of these, the blues and grasses looks like a tapestry   :)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: arillady on October 23, 2009, 10:19:55 PM
Thankyou so much Marcondes for showing these stunning photos. Good to get a better insight into the countryside of Brazil.
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Rafa on October 23, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
 :D Marcondes!, glad to see you here! you sent me some time ago the piture of this Trimezia sp. but I haven't identified yet... maybe Alberto Castillo could help, I will send it also to our friend Edmund Heaton.

all the best.

Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Thomas Huber on October 24, 2009, 09:01:20 AM
Wonderful scenery Marcondes.
These photos do not really match with my impression about
landscapes in Brazil (tropical rainforests as far as the eye can see).
I'm learning every day  8)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 24, 2009, 10:24:32 AM
Marvellous flowering fields Marcondes.  Like Thomas says I had no idea such terrain existed in Brazil.  Many thanks for taking us there.
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Miriam on October 24, 2009, 12:32:12 PM
Wow...what amazing sights!
Especially the Trimezia is just stunning...what colors :o
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: art600 on October 24, 2009, 01:13:50 PM
Marcondes

How lucky you are to have such stunning scenery - and bulbs - on your doorstep.

Thank you for posting and can we expect more? please
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 24, 2009, 01:20:33 PM
Wonderful show Marcondes !
As many of us I'd never expected this kind of scenery in Brazil !

Great scenery !!!
... and not a football player in sight ?  ??? ::) :D ;)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: David Nicholson on October 24, 2009, 06:34:53 PM
Lovely set of pics Marcondes, I enjoyed them very much.
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 24, 2009, 10:22:20 PM
Marcondes,

A wonderful selection, great plants. Many thanks, really enjoyed seeing the flowers of Brazil.

Paddy
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Lvandelft on October 24, 2009, 10:36:37 PM
Marcondes, it's the same with me (like other forumists) Brazil is Beaches, Carnaval and Rain Forests.
Never expected to see rockeries and such enormous grass fields with bulbous plants.
Great series of pictures and thanks for showing!
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: mark smyth on October 24, 2009, 11:13:34 PM
I will only say I agree with what everyone else has written.

Does anyone know the ID of his 'sunflower'?
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 24, 2009, 11:43:02 PM
Marcondes,

It is exciting to see pictures of something completely new to me.

You wrote that the area is well preserved.

Is it public land, like a national park, or perhaps a ranch where
the rancher manages his animals so that wildflowers can flourish,
like many areas in South Africa?
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: ranunculus on October 25, 2009, 05:32:34 AM
Enchanting scenery, plants and images ... many more please when you can spare the time?
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 25, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Such wonderful plants Marcondes and you have captured them so well. The wide open spaces of Brazil are huge and exciting for plant lovers, such a change from the Amazon and its tropical lushness. This wonderful Forum has taken us to yet another stunning landscape.

Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 25, 2009, 09:53:21 PM
Dear all,

Thank you for you comments. I am surprised. I didn't expect you would be so... surprised. Brazil is not only carnival, beaches and infinite rainforests. Not at all! This image is created by touristic agences.

'Rainforest' is a term that apply to Amazon forest. That forest cover only a half o Brazilian territory. The other half is covered by a variety of ecossistems that include savannas, semi-deciduous forests, grassy fields and others. Besides, most of Brazilian people lives in the south. Most of us has never seen a rainforest.

Carnival is more a turistic show than a folk tradition. My grandparents knew carnival thorough television.

Brazil is still very unknown country. Brazilians cultures are even so much unknown. I would like to show another unexpected scenes of my homeland. That is southern Brazil:
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Maggi Young on October 25, 2009, 09:59:21 PM
As you see, Marcondes, we are in great need of education about your country and its plants... it will be our pleasure to learn from you!
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Hans A. on October 25, 2009, 10:03:34 PM
Thanks a lot Marcondes for this fantastic pics- for sure a place to visit - the last ones could have been taken in Bavaria :o
Are the trees on the top of the cliffs Araucarias? Great scenery!
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Lvandelft on October 25, 2009, 10:41:57 PM
Marcondes, your last pictures made me curious. (We had seen on TV something about founded places by Germans some time ago).
I did some googling and here is a good site in English about:
 http://www.v-brazil.com/tourism/foreigner/blumenau.html (http://www.v-brazil.com/tourism/foreigner/blumenau.html)

and Gramado seems a good place for many Forumists too, Chocolate Heaven.... ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC6vJBTsGAM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC6vJBTsGAM)

Thanks for showing these totally unexpected and magnificent pictures of your country!
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 25, 2009, 11:30:33 PM
I agree with Maggi Marcondes, we have a lot to learn, or I have, most certainly. It is comforting to know that Brazilians enjoy their chocolate as we do. What an amazing place in Luit's link! ;D
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 26, 2009, 03:00:49 AM
Maggi: It is a pleasure to show a little bit of my country. I thank you for the opportunity.

Hans: Yes, the trees are Araucaria angustifolia. The photo does not show how tall are those trees. They are huge!

Luit and Lesley: Thanks for those links, Luit. Gramado's chocolates are famous!

Finally, I will post the last pictures. They were taken in Minas Gerais state, where I am from:
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Thomas Huber on October 26, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
WOW, Marcondes. Thanks for introducing your beautiful country into the heads of the unknown. More photos are always welcome.
Didn't know you have a "real" winter in Brazil! How low do the temperatures go? Can you grow Crocus and Galanthus there?
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Hans A. on October 26, 2009, 08:48:06 AM
Yes, the trees are Araucaria angustifolia. The photo does not show how tall are those trees. They are huge!

Thanks a lot Marcondes,  great to be able to see this species in its habitat. Next month I will see some Araucarias araucanas in nature and also a few Araucaria angustifolia (in cultivation) - It is interesting this both species seem to grow in quite similar conditions.
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 26, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
I hope these won't be the last pictures Marcondes. And remember, that while SOME of us may be addicted to chocolate, ALL of us are addicted to plants. ;D
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 27, 2009, 06:02:34 AM
Hi Marcondes,
the churches and the farmhouse in your last posting could've come straight out of Goa - definitely the Portuguese style. Great to see some of your country.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Ragged Robin on October 27, 2009, 06:23:07 PM
I'm longing to see more from your tempting introduction to Brazil and your home country. I have two friends who were brought up and lived there but somehow it always seemed so far away and untouchable.  You have opened up a whole new experience in your varied photos which seem to encapsulate the true image of Brazil, Marcondes, thank you for that  :)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Rafa on October 28, 2009, 10:45:51 AM
Marcondes, just impresive pictures :o :o :o
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: BULBISSIME on October 29, 2009, 09:03:54 AM
What else to add Marcondes, except you seem to live in a fabulous area for plants and... minerals !
Minas gerais is fantatic for all kind of jewells  ;)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: cohan on October 30, 2009, 07:09:41 AM
very nice to see these photos, marcondes :)
first, when i think of minas gerais, i think of milton nascimento ;) one of my favourite brasilian artists (music)..
i have seen photos of areas, i think, very near to your bulb fields before, but the images i have seen focussed on cacti and bromeliads especially, so i did not see so many bulb flowers; there are some wonderful orchids growing near the cactus sites, also--i think they may be in rocky outcroppings in this/similar habitat, and in deposits of quartz sand
i forget now the name of the field of pink flowers near the beginning of your posting, but it was wonderful!

Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Cris on October 30, 2009, 06:13:22 PM
Marcondes, what a beatiful those flowered fields :o :)
And the Hippeastrum are marvellous, specialy those palid rose. Do you know its name?
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Bulbophilos on October 31, 2009, 01:21:27 PM
Dear all,

I apologize for such delay to reply. I have been very busy these days.

Thomas: Cold winters only occur in the mountains of the southernmost Brazilian states: Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina. Snow falls every year on that places. I do not know exactly what bulbs they can grow in such conditions. I know they grow some spring bulbs: Narcissus, Ranunculus, Dutch irises, Iris germanica and others. All those bulbs are dutch hybrids and usually come from Argentina. I guess they could grow many other species but there is no efforts to introduce and adapt new species.

Fermi: The cultures of Minas Gerais are basicaly adaptations of Portuguese culture. Here you will find photos and a discussion about similarities between arquitecture of Portugal and Minas Gerais:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=491277

Fred: about that amaryllid: I think it could be a Rhodophiala. This genus occurs in Brazil. In the southern states there is Rhodophiala bifida and here, in Minas Gerais, there is Rhodophiala cipoana.

Robin: Did you know there is a city founded by Swiss immigrants in the mountains near Rio de Janeiro? It is Nova Friburgo.

Cris: Very nice to meet you here! I don't know it's name yet.

Cohan: Very oportune your comment about Milton Nascimento: I was intended to post something about music, since I am a musician and also because Brazilian music is also not well know. Here there is some links showing:

18th century music of Minas Gerais:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DtoZCw1xlg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFdJ_3hK-Ow

Folk Music of Minas Gerais:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOa50hRO3Yg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X7D64xzerc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5odyRjDclM&feature=related

Southern Brazil Dance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLA6LJK0xms&feature=related

And now some pictures of Minas Gerais countryside from this nice gallery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9196929@N02/

Kind Regards!






Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Ewelina Wajgert on October 31, 2009, 04:54:17 PM
Marcondes, your photos are stunning. I'm glad to see so distant region especially as I have heard enough about Iquasu Falls.
Thank you, that you unocver us the new nooks.
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: cohan on November 01, 2009, 12:22:32 AM
those trees are amazing!  i love this semi-arid landscape and the plnats there..
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: ranunculus on November 01, 2009, 07:12:35 AM
Superb images, Marcondes,
The Vellozia sp. is incredible. This link may be of interest to some?
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26108
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: BULBISSIME on November 02, 2009, 12:06:01 AM
Your Vellozia picture is FANTASTIC   :o :o :o
I'd LOVE to be on site do see and to take pictures of such flowers.

many many thank's Marcondes, and pleaseeeeeee.... send us more from your country  :)
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Gerdk on November 02, 2009, 06:51:21 AM
many many thank's Marcondes, and pleaseeeeeee.... send us more from your country  :)


Yes please - there are such a lot of unknown sites and treasures!

Gerd
Title: Re: Southeastern Brazil grasslands and rockeries
Post by: Ragged Robin on November 02, 2009, 10:49:48 AM
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those trees are amazing!  i love this semi-arid landscape and the plnats there..

I agree with cohan - Is the yellow Tabebula tree native to the region?
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