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Title: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: David Nicholson on October 18, 2009, 07:38:57 PM
I have a few plants of the above grown from seed sown March 2008, with very reasonable leaf growth given their age. Should I let them dry out now, or are they evergreen please?
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on October 19, 2009, 12:01:58 AM
David
sincerely I do not know, of usual are not evergreen
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: Darren on October 19, 2009, 08:17:29 AM
I don't think this is an amaryllid but I'll have a go at answering. I think Alstroemeria are dormant in late summer and early autumn when they should be allowed to dry a little but not completely. Most will lose their leaves at this point. My pygmaea are just starting to produce a few new leaves now which indicates they want some moisture to tide them over the winter. They will then produce full new growth in spring. In early summer the sterile shoots will start to dry off but the flowering shoots start to pop up.
I would keep them just moist now until next spring when the growth starts to accelerate. You may be able to see new shoots apppearing at the soil surface - I just checked and mine are just below the top dressing and will be up in a day or two.

Hope this helps.

D.
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: Maggi Young on October 19, 2009, 04:27:28 PM
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I don't think this is an amaryllid
Quite so, Darren! Thanks to another Forumist for pointing out this misplaced thread..... I am still catching up from a busy day yesterday!  :-X
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: annew on October 20, 2009, 12:51:33 PM
Hi David, I have this plant self-sown in the plunge in my bulb house so it's dry in the summer (but down about 15cm below the sand). The roots, or whatever they are, get quite rubbery. They then get the Sep and Oct storms as Ian's regime, and the sand is kept moist until the following late spring when the bulbs are dying back again. It flowers well and reseeds.
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: mark smyth on October 20, 2009, 01:49:05 PM
Way back in May I was given two roots of Alstroemeria pygmaea that had some leaves. These quickly died down in the heat wave in June. Do they leaf now and flower in the spring?

How should I look after them during the year? Right now they are outside where their pot is very wet after the rain that has fallen
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: ashley on October 20, 2009, 02:33:34 PM
Mark,  I'd be inclined to bring it into the greenhouse and overwinter in good light with occasional watering and later feeding until it flowers ;) & goes dormant again.
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: mark smyth on October 20, 2009, 02:47:46 PM
I'll do it right now.

Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: David Nicholson on October 20, 2009, 08:16:23 PM
I don't think this is an amaryllid but I'll have a go at answering. I think Alstroemeria are dormant in late summer and early autumn when they should be allowed to dry a little but not completely. Most will lose their leaves at this point. My pygmaea are just starting to produce a few new leaves now which indicates they want some moisture to tide them over the winter. They will then produce full new growth in spring. In early summer the sterile shoots will start to dry off but the flowering shoots start to pop up.
I would keep them just moist now until next spring when the growth starts to accelerate. You may be able to see new shoots apppearing at the soil surface - I just checked and mine are just below the top dressing and will be up in a day or two.

Hope this helps.

D.


Many  thanks Darren and Anne. Sorry about putting it in the wrong family, it's Alstroemeriaceae now, BUT in 1837 it was in Amaryllidaceae according to the Kew Check List. I just didn't read it fully, anyway I'm always behind the times ;D
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: David Nicholson on June 29, 2010, 07:13:10 PM
Still no flowers :(
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: mark smyth on June 29, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Not good for mine either. It stayed dormant until about 6 weeks ago each stem promptly died back in days then came a flower stem that died back, then another flower stem that produced a flower, died back and nothing more

Is it worth keeping?

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another photo with my thumb for size comparrison
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: Maggi Young on June 29, 2010, 07:54:52 PM
Not good for mine either. It stayed dormant until about 6 weeks ago each stem promptly died back in days then came a flower stem that died back, then another flower stem that produced a flower, died back and nothing more

Is it worth keeping?

photo
another photo with my thumb for size comparrison
Well, I agree that things could be going better.... but look at that little cheery face on that flower.....VERY cute indeed.... give it another chance!
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: mark smyth on June 29, 2010, 08:05:27 PM
Give it another chance to have one flower next year!? Maybe I should put it in a trough?
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: Maggi Young on June 29, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
We've found that even the tiniest forms of Alstromeria want to tunnel downward as though trying to reach the other side of the world, so I don't think a trough is the answer... what about a warm spot where it could dig itself down deep if it wanted to?  Worth a try?
Since I've never seen how deep they sink themselves in the wild I don't know if that is what they all do in nature but it is what they do here in captivity.... little seedling tubers taking off straight down!
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: David Nicholson on June 29, 2010, 08:39:14 PM
Are they hardy? Mine has very strong roots growing through the bottom of a 9cm square plastic pot.
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: Maggi Young on June 29, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
Are they hardy? Mine has very strong roots growing through the bottom of a 9cm square plastic pot.
Aha! The six thousand dollar question! Some of the little  species seem to be pretty tough.... don't think they appreciate being cold and wet, though. If you had a bulb bed in the bottom of a glass house where they could dig down but have glass protection that would be fine, I reckon. 
Title: Re: Alstroemeria pygmaea
Post by: annew on July 01, 2010, 10:29:52 AM
I'm pulling mine out by the handful from my sand plunge. It's now very dry, at least the top 6". Flowering shoots keep popping up. The sterile shoots have withered.
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