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Title: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 14, 2009, 05:53:35 PM
Nature of Europe part of Russia is not rich. But there are some places where endemic plants are still alive. Such place is a steppe in 500 km to the south from Moscow. It is relatively dry hills of soft limestone with a thin layer of chernozem, black earth.

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_e810b4ad.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_dd178fb9.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_2989c042.jpg)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 14, 2009, 05:55:54 PM
There are only 5 or 6 places in the steppe where grows wild Daphne juliae.

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_dc8dbf59.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_2b5080cc.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_4247b2b4.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_565bffab.jpg)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 14, 2009, 06:01:34 PM
It prefers sunny dry places. It’s partners are Clematis integrifolia, Iris aphylla, Anemone sylvestris, Adonis vernalis, Pulsatilla patens, Stipa and some other grasses. At the forest borders it could meet with Primula vernallis.

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_ddeac8aa.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_b583fdce.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_e6b1c609.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_85715d26.jpg)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 14, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_40f41b31.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_66c6630e.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_de7c8e7f.jpg)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 14, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
There are no Daphne juliae cultivars as I know. So me with my friends decided to find different forms which I saw before.

Alba
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_ff73d964.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_98de88e8.jpg)

Petals shape
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_7233c140.jpg)

Colours
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_18dc5cd3.jpg)

Plant with star-colored flowers which was named Zvezdopad
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_64845ccc.jpg)

(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_690b2781.jpg)

Plant with some branches with yellow leaves margined by green
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_aa6168ef.jpg) (http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_d39cf95f.jpg)

Fasciation
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_d83c9ef1.jpg)

Appleblossom
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/92164489/x_0b9eaa2f.jpg)

And variegated form
(http://cs4226.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93407084/x_da743e19.jpg) (http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_1b1d1a2d.jpg)

Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: mark smyth on October 14, 2009, 06:22:50 PM
What an amazing sight that must be. This is all Daphne juliae?
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: ashley on October 14, 2009, 06:41:33 PM
What an amazing sight and wonderful variation Olga, beautifully photographed.  Is it in the Voronezh area? 
Thank you for taking us with you 8)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Ragged Robin on October 14, 2009, 06:57:01 PM
What a vision, Olga, wonderful to see Daphne growing so wild in this Steppe land - we have a region near where I live that has the same conditions and climate as the Steppes with limestone too and it is covered with Adonis vernalis in the Spring, the only place it grows in Switzerland  :)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: SueG on October 14, 2009, 08:50:32 PM
Amazing pictures, thanks for sharing them with us.
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 15, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
Stunning pictures Olga !!  :o
What awesome views !!
Thanks so much for showing !!
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 15, 2009, 09:22:41 AM
Olga thank you so much for sharing these wonderful pictures with us, a real treat to brighten up an autumnal morning.
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: ranunculus on October 15, 2009, 10:31:07 AM
MAGNIFICENT SIGHT
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Eric Locke on October 15, 2009, 09:48:04 PM

I really am speachless Olga. :o :o :o

WONDERFULL


Eric
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on October 17, 2009, 11:38:24 AM
Thank you all!  :D

This is all Daphne juliae?

Yes. There is one more Daphne species there, Daphne sophia (= D. altaica = D. taurica).
(http://cs4289.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_319a06ce.jpg)
It is more rare and difficult here.

Ashley
It is in the Kursk area.
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Joakim B on October 19, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Lovely pics Olga :)
There was a great diversity and that is nice to see.
Hope they will find their way into cultivation.

All the best
Joakim
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 18, 2010, 02:09:27 PM
Some more pictures from that place a year later.  :)

Onosma simplissima
(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_af712773.jpg)

Daphne julia
(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_5e6c5d87.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_45b18f7c.jpg)

Polygonatum sp.
(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_edc4f0ed.jpg)

Androsace koso-polianskii (=villosa)
(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_e4c27aad.jpg)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: cohan on May 18, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
what a beautiful place! i missed this thread last year, so its good to see it all..
i will watch for this daphne, although i guess that area is a lot hotter than me in summer..
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 20, 2010, 02:00:40 PM
cohan
I am not sure it is a lot hotter but certainly much more dryer.
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 20, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
Near the place Daphnes grow there is an interesting sight named Divnogorie (Wondermount if translated). Chalk hills with vertical protrudeing crags. There are cave churchs into two of them. This place has an old history and unusual flora.

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_8c67e76d.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_567f3f09.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_9956ce56.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_f9cca675.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_c918c07a.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_604128db.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_afe4e894.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_9b3aa737.jpg)

(http://cs952.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/93003623/x_1cff5414.jpg)
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: cohan on May 20, 2010, 11:05:28 PM
very cool landscapes!--i love to see exposed stone, and the limestone is very interesting looking..
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: arillady on May 21, 2010, 10:58:39 AM
It is so very good to see these photos of where these plants grow - and the other plants that grow with them.
Beaiutiful photos - especially liked the variation in colour
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: arillady on May 21, 2010, 10:59:41 AM
What would be the highs and lows in temp and the rainfall?
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Stone Rider on May 24, 2010, 05:23:53 PM
There are no Daphne juliae cultivars as I know. So me with my friends decided to find different forms which I saw before.


Dear Olga, it is great surprise to see this rich variability, which is not seen with D. cneorum. Congratulation for valuable report and romantic pictures. Kiss from Professor Alechin.
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 28, 2010, 02:47:44 AM
I too had totally missed this magnificent thread when it first appeared and I thank Maggi for the link and reminder about it. As always with your pictures Olga, they are the very finest and it is a great thrill to see your beautiful Daphnes and other flowers in such an unusual setting, wide, apparently tamed farmland. The whole countryside is very lovely and I can't thank you enough for showing Russia to us as she really is.
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: stellan on July 13, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Same area but few months later... From July 2010

Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: stellan on July 13, 2010, 12:57:51 PM
More photos
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 13, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
Lovely to see this area with a summer covering of native flowers. Spring is neat and tidy, summer wild and exuberant, a beautiful progression. I'd like to see it all in winter as well.

Stellan, give Gerry our love. I hope he is getting plenty of cool water on these summer trips. I see you also now have a bicycle for him. How does he manage THAT?
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: mark smyth on July 13, 2010, 10:18:13 PM
When will the variegated plants from last year be available?  :o ::) and the one with white edged pink flowers and ..... ;D
Title: Re: Where the wild daphnes grow...
Post by: Olga Bondareva on July 17, 2010, 06:24:45 PM
Stellan
Great you reached that place! Did you found Daphnes? And how do you like our hit?

Mark
Sorry I am not a magician.  :) Not so soon.

Lesley
Thank you!  :-*
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