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General Subjects => General Forum => Topic started by: Olga Bondareva on October 11, 2009, 05:10:12 PM
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I have a lot of mushroom images but is it wildlife?
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I think your beautiful mushrooms must be wildlife.... they are wearing fur coats!
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Olga keep them coming
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Olga keep them coming
Yes Sir! :)
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Wild and incredible photos of fungi, Olga, and your other wild life photos are so full of life! The green mushroom looks 'evil' and the orange ones so 'fruity' - would like to know more about them ::)
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Wonderful, Olga ... many thanks for posting these beautiful fungi.
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Thanks Robin and Cliff!
Robin,
All I know this mushrooms eat dead wood. Green Shrek's ears are eatable (if you can gather enough :)).
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And some more myxomycetes (a kind of very small fungi).
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Olga,
excellent photos. All from Moscow forest?
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Olga how do you find these small fungi? Can you tell us how you take such good photos of small plants? Camera, flash, tripod ....
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Armin thanks! Yes, from Moscow forest and from forest in 100 km from Moscow where is my village situated.
Mark I make such kind of images by Canon 40D and macro-lens 100/2.8. Tripod and electric torch sometimes. How I find? :D I look. ;D I know they usually grow on dead mouldering trees. And look at them when we gather edible mushrooms. I am sure you can find the same things at your nearest forest because most of this fungi are worldwide. You just have to go to the darkest and moist forest.
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"You just have to go to the darkest and moist forest" - and I'm never found again ;D
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Do not think my mushrooms are over. 8)
About edible mushrooms. Do you know that mushrooming is a national russian amusement like hunting or fishing? When mushroom time begin many people wear rubber boots, take baskets and drive or go to forests where spend all day. We gather many kinds of mushrooms. Some of them grow in big colonies and some apart.
This year I met legendary mushroom which is known like the best. In Russian it names Ryzhik. It could be eaten uncooked, roasted, boiled, marinaded or fermented. It has it’s own unique scent. It is rare and usually worm-eaten. But this year…
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Olga, wonderful photos! I had no idea fungi could be so beautiful.
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Actually, these fungi are so beautiful, I will make their own thread!
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A bucket, a basket and a bag - will you eat them all?
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A bucket, a basket and a bag - will you eat them all?
Of course! And wash down with vodka! ;D
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Will you eat all that you collect? I went on a fungus foray a few years ago but I didnt enjoy it. The leader was so full of it and had no time for us beginners
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Sensational fungi pictures. I particularly like the blue one that looks like a Pixie Cup.
johnw
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Most edible fungi dry really well, Mark, so it is not as if they all need to be eaten fresh!
The colours ARE fascinating.... and I love the description of Shrek's ears!
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Mark
We eat all that we collect. Not one day.
Some people do not like to eat mushrooms. But like to gather them. :D Like my son.
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John, Maggi, Gunilla :-*
Maggy, not only dry. Many kinds of fungy could be cooked like cabbage by fermentation. Or conserved in marinade. It is very tasty!
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Some more pictures
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Maggy
Shrek's ears for you. :)
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These should be in a book
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I hate to drag this thread off topic but is anyone watching Wild Russia on channel 526 on Sky?. Sorry.
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Olga, I can't get over your fabulous Macro photography of these weird and wonderful fungal growths - the lighting is just magic showing each one off to perfection. Imagining you in this secret forest - do you have a photo which shows it? ::)
Maybe you have a special mushroom recipe that we could share in Cooks Corner thread?
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Love the thought of vodka and mushrooms!!!!
Seriously though, Olga, the pictures are just fantastic. We collect fungi to eat but do not have the knowledge or experience of our European continental friends.
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What amazing and superbly photographed, a real treat. I'm always on the lookout but the only one I've seen locally from those above, is the little cup fungus filled with tiny white discs.
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Amazing and beautiful photographs, Olga.
I am wondering how many of these beauties are edible.
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Olga,
Breathtaking pictures. So beautifully clear and perfect. Thank you so much for showing us, and to Maggi for shifting these into their own thread where we can find them again later on.
Just wonderful!! :o :o
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These should be in a book
Olga - Mark is right, your photographs should be in a book. These are some of the most spectauclar postings on the Forum. I'll sign up for your book right now!
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Mark, John, what book are you talking about? I make puctures bacause I see beautiful moments. But I know too little about fungi.
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A little more about edible mushrooms. There are some species which appears in early spring. They look strange and funny but you can eat them after boiling in two waters.
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Very nice,Olga. Mushrooms are both in forests and gardens. These are happy in my garden on a cut birch tree. No idea about the names but the first are said to be edible. My neighbours try to convince me to eat them. I didn't dare to yield to the temptation
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Wow :o Wonderful pictures Olga, Nature is absolutely amazing, and your photos are fabulous. Thanks for sharing them with us.
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Oleg nice to meet you here! :D
The second one are edible. Это осенние опята. But it is not good to have this kind of mushrooms in the garden. They kill trees. And not only trees! I saw them on peony and Polystichum setiferum which dead next year.
The first one is one of Чешуйчатка species. I am not sure it is edible.
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Where else can moscovites speak with each other? SRGC Forum!
Thank you, Olga, for advice. The tree is anyway dead but I didn't realise it can be dangerous for other plants. Hope to see you in spring.
Oleg
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Where else can moscovites speak with each other? SRGC Forum!
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Olga,
Where have you been hiding ?? ;D
I only discovered this thread just now and I'm flabbergasted.
Some of the most beautiful pix of fungi I have ever seen - I'd never thought there are so many an so different species on the planet !
Some look extraterrestrial !!! :o :o :o
Wonderful report and good to learn something about everyday Russian life !! (hunting mushrooms and washing them down... ;D)
Thanks very very much for showing !!
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Where else can moscovites speak with each other? SRGC Forum!
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Oleg
Why in spring? I am not going to fall in hibernation. :)
Luc
Thank you!
About washing down... I do not like it really. :) And it could be really dangerous with some fungi. For example dung mushroom is edible but isn't compatible with alcohol.
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Yesterday morning.
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'Yesterday Morning" has a really oriental feel about it - like a Japanese miniature garden 8)
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Olga, Your photos are breathtaking - not only the fungi but your skill in photography and composition. :D
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Olga, your superb photos are an inspiration, I took a much more careful look when out walking the dog in the woods this afternoon, I would have loved to stumble across some Shreks Ears but no such luck!
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Ditto to all the compliments on the wonderful photography!
Just wondering... What was the common name for "Shrek's Ears" before the movie?
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Olga I agree with Annew your photos are breathtaking, hope there are more to come :)
Angie
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I just found this thread too - fantastic! I've seen many of these fungi in my own woods but have never really seen their real beauty which you are showing us here with your macro photography. The incredible diversity of fruiting bodies of these fungi is truly amazing. But these are "just" fruiting bodies - the real vegetative part of the fungus is underground and most species are unseparable to us in this form. So, why have so many diverse forms of fruiting bodies developed? What are the evolutionary advantages?
In our woods, the number of larger fungi is perhaps 10-20 times as many as the number of flowering plants in the same woods and a real challenge to learn - I gave up a few years ago and concentrated on the edible species.
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This year I met legendary mushroom which is known like the best. In Russian it names Ryzhik. It could be eaten uncooked, roasted, boiled, marinaded or fermented. It has it’s own unique scent. It is rare and usually worm-eaten. But this year…
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This is a favourite edible species here too, but as you experience they are usually infested with fly larvae. Very common here though (there are two closely related species associated with Pine and Spruce trees). It's Lactarius deliciosus (or a closely related species), the Saffron Milk Cap, one of the easiest fungi to recognise with its orange-red latex which appears when you break one. Excellent taste.
I'd love to learn lactofermentation of mushrooms....
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I remember when I was younger, much younger, my father brought home bags of field mushroom. Within days they were infested with some sort of fruit fly. Maggi mentioned drying mushroom. How is this done?
What about magic mushroom? ::)
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Maggi mentioned drying mushroom. How is this done?
See Stephen B's post here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4284.msg114575#new in the Bulgarian Fungi thread!
Hans J's wife is an expert, too! 8)
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Stephen :
we call here in Germany this fungi : Reizker
Mark :
all Boletus are well for drying ...all other not !
for 'magic mushroom ' :
one is Amanita muscaria -he has a activ which is called ' Muscimol' .....this will give halluzinations - but this fungi has also other poissoness actives.....so many peoples are died after testing !
We call here in Germany this fungi 'Fliegenpilz' ( fly fungi) .....in earlier times the farmers make pieces of them in a saucer with a little bit milk ...when the flies came and eat so they are soon dead and the cows has not more problems with the flies ....
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Stephen :
we call here in Germany this fungi : Reizker
Almost the same where it's called Matriske. Mat=Food and Riske=Reizker is the common name for Lactarius spp.
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here is a pic of a fungi where common in this time - we call it 'Hallimasch' ( Armillariella mellea)
....we like it not for eating because we makes problems with stomach ( should should cook it tow times ) ....and also you should not dring alkohol if you eat it
here is a pic of a 'Fliegenpilz' ( Amanita muscaria )
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Dear all thank you for warm words!
Melvin,
Shrek's Ears which are most popular here :) are definitely rare. My experience is most of small fungi like birch logs.
Lori
There was no any common name for these fungi. It’s latin name is Chlorociboria aeruginosa.
Stephen
Sometimes I think mushrooms become a food for people in cold climates…
To ferment Lactarius deliciosus you take a bucket, put watered, cleaned and salted mushrooms into it (you do not have to boil them, some gourmets even do not wash them) with dill seeds, garlic and black currant branches. Next day you see mushrooms give a lot of juice. Then you have to press mushrooms by something (for example by a plate with a stone on it). Pressing thing must be covered by juice and by clean cotton fabric. So… you have to wait a couple of weeks sometimes cleaning a fabric from mould. You can add new mushrooms to the bucket, this just elongate fermentation period. You can also add other kinds of mushrooms to the same bucket but you have to boil or macerate them.
What other mushrooms are edible in your country?
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for 'magic mushroom ' :
one is Amanita muscaria -he has a activ which is called ' Muscimol' .....this will give halluzinations - but this fungi has also other poissoness actives.....so many peoples are died after testing !
We call here in Germany this fungi 'Fliegenpilz' ( fly fungi) .....in earlier times the farmers make pieces of them in a saucer with a little bit milk ...when the flies came and eat so they are soon dead and the cows has not more problems with the flies ....
This is the well known (in English) Fly Agaric mushroom. I was recently reading a very interesting long article about this species in the Journal of the Society of Economic Botany. (Rubel, W.; Arora, D. (2008). "A Study of Cultural Bias in Field Guide Determinations of Mushroom Edibility Using the Iconic Mushroom, Amanita Muscaria,as an Example". Economic Botany 62 (3): 223–43.) Apparently this species is on the contrary one of the most used species for food in the Northern Hemisphere amongst traditional peoples. The potentially dangerous and hallucinogenic chemicals are destroyed by cooking. It is argued that it is much safer to eat this species than the Trumpet Chantarelle (for instance) as the Fly Agaric is easily identified and there are no other species that it is likely to be confused with. One just have to remember to cook it properly. They also were unable to find verifiable incidents of deaths caused by the use of this fungus as a hallucinogen. However, I'm not in a hurry to try it, although I AM curious....
I think Mark's Magic Mushroom (MMM) is a different species altogether... I know nothing.
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Hans
'Fliegenpilz' is very pretty but poisonous. 'Hallimasch' is a tasty autumn mushroom good for fermentation or roasting.
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Welcome back Olga and what a glorious series of photos - again ;)
Did anybody realize, that Olga already "made" a book.
Many of her photos are in Holubec's 'Flowers of the Caucasus' ?
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The second one are edible. Это осенние опята. But it is not good to have this kind of mushrooms in the garden. They kill trees. And not only trees! I saw them on peony and Polystichum setiferum which dead next year.
Это осенние опята (I did Russian at school ;)) is I think Honey Fungus, Armillaria mellea, which Hans just posted a picture of...
When I first moved here I felled a lot of Birch trees and left the stumps which quickly became infested with Это осенние опята. I had learnt that this species was edible and was very pleased with this unexpected crop of tasty mushrooms. I wish now that I had known of the aggressive nature of this fungus (at least certain strains of it) as is invaded gradually over the next years my fruit orchard and killed after about 10 years all my old apple and plum trees (as Olga says). The last few years, I've had a big job systematically digging over the ground and removing all tree roots before replanting...
I don't eat it any more - and people are here warned against it as some people are very allergic to it. However, it is still one of the commonest wild fungi sold on markets in Italy.
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here are some more pics ( from last year )
complete collection
Birkenpilz ( Leccinum scabrum )
Steinpilz ( Boletus edulis )
Marone ( Xerocomus badius )
Totentrompete ( Craterellus cornicopuoides )
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Mark mentioned the little flies that infest mushrooms and other fungi. I have found that these, if shaken from the mushroom onto the late summer/autumn leaves of Pinguicula species, before those leaves die away, make for a very strong and prolific flowering of the Pinguiculas in spring.
We have the red and white spotted Amanita muscaria, under our pines and eucalypts in the autumn. It also grows around the bushy parts of the city of Dunedin and most years a few cases of poisoning are treated in the local hospital, when uni students have sampled it.
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Hi Thomas! (http://forum.cofe.ru/images/smilies/hi.gif)
Yes my interest has progressed.
Hans
Good harvest! The last one is unknown to me. I'v never saw and eaten such kind if fungi.
Stephen
What a sad story about your garden! I have a little осенние опята :) in my garden on old logs of old home. Do you think I have to throw them away or burn down? Or is it enough to saturate them with fungicide? ???
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Olga ,
these 'Trompets de Mort' are also rare here - you find it always in a short time -late in fall before comes the frost .
They a fine fungi for spice -not for eating it pure .We dry it and add it for sauces -special good for wild animals like Chevreul ,Sanglier......
In this year we had not found any - and the season is soon over -the wether forecast says frost for the next days :-\
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Of course Armillariella mellea, the bootlace fungus is famous for another reason - phosphorescent hyphae... :o
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Olga ,
these 'Trompets de Mort' are also rare here - you find it always in a short time -late in fall before comes the frost .
They a fine fungi for spice -not for eating it pure .We dry it and add it for sauces -special good for wild animals like Chevreul ,Sanglier......
In this year we had not found any - and the season is soon over -the wether forecast says frost for the next days :-\
I don't think I will be eating these "Death Trumpets" soon and I won't be accepting a dinner invitation from Hans either ;) I've never seen them here (they are local, mostly in the south of Norway). We call them Svart trompetsopp (Craterellus cornucopioides).
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Stephen
What a sad story about your garden! I have a little осенние опята :) in my garden on old logs of old home. Do you think I have to throw them away or burn down? Or is it enough to saturate them with fungicide? ???
I would advise you to burn them. Here in Norway (probably also EU), there is no fungicide which can be used against Honey Fungus (at least for private gardeners). The only solution is to remove the tree roots which are affected.
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here is a other fungi from this time -they start now
thats are Trompetenpfifferlinge ( Cantherellus tubaeformis )
they are more common ....but the taste is not so exquisit like C. cibariucus
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We have Armillaria native in our local area here too. The hill that the Botanic Gardens are on here in Canberr has it native to it, and it pops up in areas of the Gardens regularly. Large areas are now devoid of trees and nothing can be done about it unfortunately as impossible to remove all the dead tree roots. They just have to try to minimise it's spread, in some cases by "Armillaria barriers" which entailed digging a 2 metre trench and filling it with concrete. This stops the roots from nearby trees penetrating past that point, so the fungus can't spread into the rockery area with all it's rare plants. ::) Nasty stuff, and when the mushrooms appear in autumn we would try to hunt them down and remove them to minimise spore production.
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I would advise you to burn them. Here in Norway (probably also EU), there is no fungicide which can be used against Honey Fungus (at least for private gardeners). The only solution is to remove the tree roots which are affected.
Thank you Stephen!
The problem is many small and big peaces of old wood are buried into soil. It’s impossible to remove all of them.
I think about system fungicide.
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All this fungi are growing at my plum tree. It means the tree is old and diseased.
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I'm lucky that I don't have more than 20-30 cm of soil anywhere in my garden over rock. Therefore, it is possible to remove roots, although it's still a big job (=several years). The only solution seems then to be a barrier such as described by Paul. I have read that there are no effective chemicals against Armillaria...
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You have a great eye. Next time you photograph fungi can you put your finger in so we can see how small some of your fungi is.
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Olga this thread has only just come up on my radar - absolutely wonderful photos of most unusual subjects
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Mark,
While I understand why you're wanting a scale, having a finger in there would ruin the beautiful artistry of the photos. :o Seems a shame to do that.
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A little more about edible mushrooms. There are some species which appears in early spring. They look strange and funny but you can eat them after boiling in two waters.
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Olga,
I have just picked up on this thread: your photographs of Myxomycetes are amazing. Also are you not showing us two different fungi here, Morchella (the morel) and Gyromitra (the false morel). I have eaten the former (delicious) but I would not eat the latter. We have a similar species in New Zealand Gyromitra tasmanica that also appears in spring.
Each year in May we hold a national Fungal Foray in New Zealand which attracts a number of international participants. We have a Swedish gentleman who comes quite regularly and also an American expert on myxomycetes. Each year it is held in a different locality. People go out in the field and collect mushrooms. They are identified and recorded. There is a very diverse group of people involved both lay people and experts so ignorance is no barrier to participation.
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John, Maggi, Gunilla :-*
Maggy, not only dry. Many kinds of fungy could be cooked like cabbage by fermentation. Or conserved in marinade. It is very tasty!
Fantastic pictures Olga.
You inspire me to go out ald look but this has been a bad year last one was good.
I usually fry them to get rid of surplus water then freeze in lots suitable for a meal as vedgetable or in a sauce.
Tallyho
Göte
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I dont mean in every photo. One here and there.
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Someone asked: Why do Anglosaxons not eat wild fungi.
I think the reason is that they traditionally eat a very limited number of foodstuffs.
There is simply no tradition of a varied diet.
Most people I know in the UK would refuse to eat frog's legs, and snails. A frend of mine in the UK considers perch, which is a very good fish indeed, inedible.
Some years ago a piece of moose beef (Alces alces)appeared in an American soap opera. It was treated as an embarrasment since nobody would eat it.
Here the joke fell flatly to the ground since this is considered a very healthy and delicate (and expensive) meat.
By the way: The Tricholoma matsutake which is found only in north Sweden is sold to Japan at around 1000 SEK the kilogramme (Yes about 60 US$/lsb)
I wish I could grow it (Sigh)
Enjoy your meal
Göte
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Is not "The documents in the case" by Dorothy Sayers about murdering someone using Amanita muscaria ?
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Do you eat Haggis Gote? ;D
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can you put your finger in
I have to manicure before. :D
Oh sorry I answer tomorrow. Today we burned out many logs infected bu fungi. I am permeated with smell of bonfire and get tired.
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Do you eat Haggis Gote? ;D
Aye
Göte
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Is not "The documents in the case" by Dorothy Sayers about murdering someone using Amanita muscaria ?
Yes, and a jolly good book too. Must go back there, and to the others.
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Gote, re the moose beef, are you sure you didn't mean to say "an American soup opera?" ;D
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Gote, re the moose beef, are you sure you didn't mean to say "an American soup opera?" ;D
That might have been a better name (If I had thougt about it) ;D ;D I now remember it was called "the west wing" or something similar.
Cheers
Göte
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Do you eat Haggis Gote? ;D
Re Haggis (Will we be moved to the cookery thread ? ;D ) I fail to understand what is supposed to be wrong with it. In Scandinavia very similar food belongs to traditional cooking - only different shape. I had it without bagpipes of course. Maybe it is the sound of it people dislike ??? ;D ;D
Cheers
Göte
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Do you eat Haggis Gote? ;D
Doesn't everybody? ::)
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What about magic mushroom? ::)
Magic mushrooms are the tiny 'Liberty Caps' (Psylocybe spp.) found in grassy places and once covered every spare shelf in a friend's flat while they dried out. The looked rather like dead tadpoles! :P No, I didn't try any! ::)
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What about magic mushroom? ::)
Magic mushrooms are the tiny 'Liberty Caps' (Psylocybe spp.) found in grassy places and once covered every spare shelf in a friend's flat while they dried out. The looked rather like dead tadpoles! :P No, I didn't try any! ::)
The front lawn of the main post office here and Citadel Hill, a National Historic Site in the city, were covered in them every autumn. The police called a halt to the many people picking them twenty odd years ago.
johnw
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Anthony,
Are the magic mushroom over there the same as the ones here? Do the stems go blue if you squeeze them? I don't know the genus etc of ours, but apparently they go blue if you squeeze them (sort of like a lot of things really! :o).... they apparently have a common name here of Blue Meanies or something like that. I've still never actually seen one of them, although have been told lots of places they grow. Not something I really want to try myself. ;D
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Paul: It seems that your magic mushroom (blue meanies, Psilocybe cubensis) is a different species to the main one used in the north (Psilocybe semilanceata)
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_cubensis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_cubensis)(has a wide distribution including eastern Australia and South and Central America)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_semilanceata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_semilanceata)
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Interesting, Stephen. Thanks. Fascinating to know the same compounds etc, just different species.
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Wow, it's interesting turning of the topic. :) I've never interested in Psilocybe sp. and never seen it. But I know many people look for and find it here.
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Another fabulous fungi is Phallus impudicus.
It starts as an agg.
(http://cs1864.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/95825191/x_0e034fbb.jpg)
Next a mushroom appiars.
(http://cs1864.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/95825191/x_00e52017.jpg)
It has a strong stink of carrion meat. I alwase feel the smell first and find a fungi after.
(http://cs1864.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/95825191/x_15267a6d.jpg)
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Indeed fabulous.
I have got it ocasionally and the stink can fill a medium size garden with no problem.
We are always made very much aware when they occur. >:(
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Göte
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Well, one of the few localities in this area for Phallus impudicus (Stanksopp - Stink Mushroom) is in one of the beds in my garden (and also under an Apple Tree), so it would probably be a protected species if the authorities knew.... Phalluses randomly "pop up" all over this bed much to the entertainment of my garden visitors.. ;) However, the stench is something else - I explain to my visitors that my garden is "Organic" (literally) when they ask "What's that smell".
All the plants in my garden are edible...what about Stanksopp? I was very pleased to read in my comprehensive Swedish Fungi book called "Svampar" by Ryman and Holmåsen that "The egg (of Phallus impudicus) is eaten raw by some people, but fully erect (my translation) this mushroom should scare off the most enthusiastic mushroom eaters"...
Otherwise it says that it has been used medicinally against rheumatism and epilepsy and, of course, as an aphrodisiac (for people and their animals!)
However, make sure that it is a Phallus egg before you try - there are deadly poisonous "eggs"...
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Obviously slugs like it though, even in the last stages of decay. Pity it doesn't poison them.
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It reminds me of the (rather rude) cartoon a Forumist sent to me. ;D
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In Sweden, we call the egg for witch egg. The egg is beautiful inside if you cut it into two parts. The part that goes to eat is the foot. It is crunchy and tastes like raw cauliflower.
Ulla
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It reminds me of the (rather rude) cartoon a Forumist sent to me. ;D
Lesley,
Given it's genus name, that's hardly surprising!! ;D
Stephen,
Interesting that it is rare but you have managed to have a colony in your garden. A good thing, even if somewhat odoriferous at fruiting time. ::)
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A Ukrainian family in Boston was hospitalized today in very serious condition. The elderly mother served Death Angels she picked for supper thinking they were edible.
Not known if they will survive.
johnw
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John,
Not good!!
I was looking at Death Cap mushrooms (Amanita phalloides) at college last night. They have a dried specimen there showing all the features. Looking up Death Angel mushrooms I see that there are a whole bunch of different Amanita species that go by that common name.
Weren't be discussing safe Amanita species somewhere on the forums recently?
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"The egg (of Phallus impudicus) is eaten raw by some people, but fully erect (my translation) this mushroom should scare off the most enthusiastic mushroom eaters"...
Otherwise it says that it has been used medicinally against rheumatism and epilepsy and, of course, as an aphrodisiac (for people and their animals!)
Yes I read the same thing. But I can't imagine somebody eating these fungi! :)
aphrodisiac... For flies and slugs? ;D
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Today we have bought a really special fungi :
Tuber melanosporum
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Oh, you have bought the truffle as a treat? I thought for sure that Barbara had tracked it down... perhaps with the help of Felix, a truffle cat?! ;) :)
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Maggi ,
I'm not so keen for the truffle ( I like more those maked from Choclate )....
The truffle in now in a glass ...together with 3 eggs .....after some days they had the same smell like the truffle and it will give "Scrambled eggs with truffle" ....
and on next day it will served "Pasta con Tartuffo" 8)
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Hans, you are a man after my own heart... I am not very impressed by truffle fungi myself.... but I do understand that for those with the correct palate, these are a great gourmet treat.
Perhaps I am too much of a peasant... I love chanterelles!
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Maggi ,
you must smell a white truffle -thats very impressiv !!!
black one are harmless against the white one :o :o :o
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We've had white truffle, Hans.... from dinner a friend with lots of money! Tiny amounts on a dish.... I didn't like it!
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;D ;D ;D
same for me !
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All you rich people.... I don't think I've ever tried Truffle, although I vaguely recalling smelling one once. Closest I've ever been. Seen lots of them used on cooking shows though. ;D
I imagine that this topic should be added to lots in the next while by our members from Scotland. I reckon you guys should all have lots of unusual fungus appearing over the next while. No Tinea pictures though, please. ::)
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Oh Hans my congratulations!
I've never tried truffle just heard about it's taste, smell and cost. They are not popular here. I can't imagine how much could it cost. One kind of truffle could be found in Moscow area forests but nobody knows how to find them.
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What does truffle smell like?
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Thank you Olga :D
Mark : it is really difficould to say ....but if you have one time testet it you will never forget :-\
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Anyone tried growing truffles? There are a couple of companies selling trees (Hazel and Oak) inoculated with Summer and/or black truffles. I have a friend in Norway who planted inoculated Hazel trees a couple of years ago.
http://www.tree2mydoor.com/products/product_details.asp?productid=207 (http://www.tree2mydoor.com/products/product_details.asp?productid=207)
http://www.plantationsystems.com/shop (http://www.plantationsystems.com/shop)
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Stephen :
I know that in South of France people have also tried this way ....but nobody knows if they really succsessfully ...if they succsessfully so the price would fall.....
In some area are big woods ( with oak ) - all is protectet with fences .....and I think it is not good to go inside ::)
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Stephen..... I've heard about the innoculated treees....I think that there is a wait of around eight years for the truffles to begin fruiting...... I'd be awfully thin by that time! :P
Mark..... to my mind, the truffles do not smell as they taste.... probably just as well..... the smell of the white was very odd.... kind of musky animal scent and damp wood and whiffy vegetables ..... the black was less off-putting! The taste is more like "essence of mushroom" mixed with something slightly "off"! You can tell I wasn't impressed! ::)
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;D ;D ;D
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Maggi, NZ truffiere owners now export to the northern hemisphere out of the northern season. I believe they get around $3000 a kilo for the black truffle. These are all grown on innoculated trees, mostly oak and hazel I think.
Paul, there was a small piece of black Perigord truffle in Otto's fridge when you and I were there last year. In the finish we totally forgot about it (quelle horreur!) so it probably went slimy and stinky. What a terrible waste >:(
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Oh Hans my congratulations!
One kind of truffle could be found in Moscow area forests but nobody knows how to find them.
In Piemonte (Italy) they use pigs to find the truffles in the wild... ::) ;D
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Oh Hans my congratulations!
One kind of truffle could be found in Moscow area forests but nobody knows how to find them.
In Piemonte (Italy) they use pigs to find the truffles in the wild... ::) ;D
Yes and their owners are usually missing a few fingers!
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Luc ,
In Piemonte they use mostly dogs ...it is to danger with danger with pigs ( they like also truffes ) ::)
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;D ;D ;D
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Stephen..... I've heard about the innoculated treees....I think that there is a wait of around eight years for the truffles to begin fruiting...... I'd be awfully thin by that time! :P
I have read that under good conditions 4 years is possible. Manage that?
Inoculated Hazel is quicker at producing than oak, but Hazel production starts falling sometime before Oak, so Oak is usually used commercially.
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Moles are also partial to truffles. Here in Scandinavia we have started to train moles as truffle-hunters, much safer....no one seems to have thought of training moles before (try Googling moletrainer)!
(Just kidding)
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Stephen - very interesting ;)
The real experts for searching truffles goes without pigs and dogs .....they look for a special fly ....this fly are over the point where truffles are - thats no joke !!!
Maybe better than Narcissus fly ;D
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Stephen,
I was about to respond seriously to you until I noticed the tiny "Just kidding". My immediate thought was to wonder how they could get the mole to retrieve it when it was underground and they'd have no way of knowing whether it had found any or not. I was wondering if some nice enterprising mole was eating two and bringing one back to the surface, just so that the "trainer" thought it was doing it's job. ;D
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Hi all ,
today is the day to eat the truffles ;D ;D ;D
I waiting for any comments from our italian forumists ::)
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Sorry not from Italia but it looks really very tasty! Buon appetito! ;)
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Really good with 'pasta', isn't it Hans?
Alberto
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Next time we come to visit you , now you know what we want to eat!
Alberto
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No problem Alberto !
....but you have to come in this time of the year !!!
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Stephen,
I was about to respond seriously to you until I noticed the tiny "Just kidding". My immediate thought was to wonder how they could get the mole to retrieve it when it was underground and they'd have no way of knowing whether it had found any or not. I was wondering if some nice enterprising mole was eating two and bringing one back to the surface, just so that the "trainer" thought it was doing it's job. ;D
;) Apologies... I was reading an article in the Society of Economic Botany Journal about "Truffle cultivation in rural Spain" and it mentioned there that truffle spore dispersal is dependent on animals like wild boar and moles. True also that Truffles are now cutivated in Southern Sweden. They train rats, so why not moles.....
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Stephen - very interesting ;)
The real experts for searching truffles goes without pigs and dogs .....they look for a special fly ....this fly are over the point where truffles are - thats no joke !!!
Maybe better than Narcissus fly ;D
Very interesting! A quick google tells me that the fly is Helomyza tuberiperda.
Excellent looking truffle dish too (the white flecks in the truffles will be the larvae of Helomyza tuberiperda then?)
Seriously, though, do you often find larvae in truffles?
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;D ;D ;D
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Hmmmmm.... I'm starting to think I'm glad I've not eaten truffles. Who knows what greeblies would be hatching inside me by now. :o :o
;) :P
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Best to eat the chocolate ones that come in a box. ;) ;) ;)
Eric
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No contest. The fungus wins by country mile! For our 10th wedding anniversary in 2005 Vivienne and I went to this restaurant(http://www.restaurantbruno.com/) which just happened to be across the road from the villa we had rented with our friends and their two children. Set menu, but we went for the mid-priced option, which meant we had white truffles with one course and black with the main. Several times we saw customers arrive by helicopter, including one day the president of Slovakia. The food was amazing and I regret not getting a pic of Bruno as greeted guests at their tables.
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No contest. The fungus wins by country mile!
Anthony I wonder what "Runs" you are meaning. :D
Eric
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Not sure when 'runs' come into it? A country mile is a great distance, so if something beats another by one there is a great gap between the two. Although I like chocolate truffles I would walk over hot coals for a rare steak tartufo! Here's a pic of me enjoying my meal at Chez Bruno, and a couple of pics taken from our gîte. One shows the restaurant with a blue helicopter landing and the other a close-up of the one we were lead to believe delivered a VIP for lunch there.
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Not sure when 'runs' come into it?
You will find out after eating the truffles. ;)
Eric
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Not sure when 'runs' come into it?
You will find out after eating the truffles. ;)
Eric
I think after four years I will be OK. ::)
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Hans
Pasta with truffles looks good. But I didn’t understand did you like it? Is it really enjoyable? Or you still just have being looking at it? ;)
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Olga ,
yes - this pasta with the truffles is not for me ....only for my wife .
I dont like so much the taste ....it is different from all other fungi :D
There are only two ways : either you like truffles ...or you like it not :-\
JohnW :
yes - the sectret of a good taste with truffles are some drops of a good oil with truffles taste .....
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yes - this pasta with the truffles is not for me ....only for my wife .
She's lucky! :)
There are only two ways : either you like truffles ...or you like it not
Oh... I have to taste it. :)
I remember! My friend got truffle mycelium with plants from Caucasus. This year he found two truffles at his garden. Here are his images:
(http://cs1767.vkontakte.ru/u8026164/98081802/x_a9bdbf3f.jpg)
(http://cs1767.vkontakte.ru/u8026164/98081802/x_3ec9dfd4.jpg)
But he also didn't explained me what does it's taste like. :)
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Not exactly a truffle but think how decorative it would look on the dinner plate!
Gallacea scleroderma
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David wow! Is it a real blue color? :o
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Olga,
Yes, it is its real colour.
For a follow up here is a nice bolete.
Tylopilus formosus
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David, I'm really impressed. :)
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Following Anthony and Hans. :) My fermented mushrooms.
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Not exactly a truffle but think how decorative it would look on the dinner plate!
Gallacea scleroderma
Beautiful. A potato fungus?
If it had been edible, it would have looked good with my Blue Congo potatoes (a traditional variety here) - for dinner tonight:
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Following Anthony and Hans. :) My fermented mushrooms.
On second thoughts, I think I'm going over to Olga's for dinner! Must try fermenting next year...
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I remember! My friend got truffle mycelium with plants from Caucasus. This year he found two truffles at his garden. Here are his images:
But he also didn't explained me what does it's taste like. :)
What kind of plant was that?
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Olga, your femented mushrooms are very pretty and I think the tablecloth would be worth a picture too. :)
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One shows the restaurant with a blue helicopter landing and the other a close-up of the one we were lead to believe delivered a VIP for lunch there.
Anthony, how did they cook the VIP?
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I suspect he would just be dressed.
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Anthony,
There are naked chefs out there as well you know. ;D
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Anthony,
There are naked chefs out there as well you know. ;D
Now I got it Hooray
He is naked because he desses the VIPs.
Göte
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:-* :-* :-* 8) 8) 8)
They love his food but not sure about his dress sense unless of course he's dressing a salad - he has several different styles for this ;D
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Before I am tempted to give a reply that is tasteless I have found a couple more fungi pictures;
1. the fabled Entoloma hochstetteri
2. Hygrocybe rubro-carnosa
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You been out with the pixies and the paint again David? ;D
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Super colours David. Are some fungi brightly coloured and poisonous to warn those (human or animal) who might eat them and so prevent spores ripening and distributing as some snakes/caterpillars are poisonous or horrid tasting to prevent predators from killing them?
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Rock Gardeners turn hobby into Goldmine
SRGC changes name to SRGTCC (Scottish Rock Garden and Truffle Cultivation Club)
Such could the headlines be in a few years from now. Unproductive rock gardens could become truffle production areas if scientists are successful in developing techniques of truffle cultivation on Rock Roses (Cistus spp), at least in the south of the SRGC empire...
Fact: Black Truffles can form a mycorrhizal relationship to Rock Roses. See, for example, http://www.springerlink.com/content/u2431uh1513075n6/ (http://www.springerlink.com/content/u2431uh1513075n6/)
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I think we should follow Newcastle United (football club), and the Cambridge University library and have our forum name sponsored - NOT! ;)
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Rock Gardeners turn hobby into Goldmine
SRGC changes name to SRGTCC (Scottish Rock Garden and Truffle Cultivation Club)
Such could the headlines be in a few years from now. Unproductive rock gardens could become truffle production areas if scientists are successful in developing techniques of truffle cultivation on Rock Roses (Cistus spp), at least in the south of the SRGC empire...
Fact: Black Truffles can form a mycorrhizal relationship to Rock Roses. See, for example, http://www.springerlink.com/content/u2431uh1513075n6/ (http://www.springerlink.com/content/u2431uh1513075n6/)
Well I have the rock roses. Anyone have a spare truffle? ;D
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I think we should follow Newcastle United (football club), and the Cambridge University library and have our forum name sponsored - NOT! ;)
Is the library sponsoring the football club or the football club, the library?
This reminds me of an article in an old Listener in which it was bemoaned that so many public buildings in NZ were under-used during weekends or holidays. Schools and their grounds unavailable for weeks on end, and so on. The writer suggested that many premises could have a double use to take in all hours. One he was strong for was the Kiri Te Kanawa Opera House and Panel Beaters' Yard.
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Folks, I must draw you attention to the fabulous fungi pictured in this thread, also:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2590.new;topicseen#new 8)
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I think we should follow Newcastle United (football club), and the Cambridge University library and have our forum name sponsored - NOT! ;)
Is the library sponsoring the football club or the football club, the library?
This reminds me of an article in an old Listener in which it was bemoaned that so many public buildings in NZ were under-used during weekends or holidays. Schools and their grounds unavailable for weeks on end, and so on. The writer suggested that many premises could have a double use to take in all hours. One he was strong for was the Kiri Te Kanawa Opera House and Panel Beaters' Yard.
The two institutions are only connected by the desire to prostitute their names to the highest bidder.
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Even the seat of government in Britain is to be sponsored by Standard fireworks.
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In order to provide the something up their somewheres?
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Just an idea.....How about a Heated Discussion/Shocking Stuff thread ::) :o
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Sorry to change the subject, but I was sorting out some pictures from the summer today and I found some pictures of mushrooms from my garden and I’d like to share them with you. I’m lucky to have a few Spruce trees (first picture) in my garden and in good years they provide Wood Mushrooms (Agaricus sylvicola; literally translated snowball champignons ) almost continuously from late May to September. There’s also sometimes a second species on the same tree, the Red-staining mushroom, Agaricus sylvicola…..Both are edible but the snowballs are best...
Incidentally, the gnome-like beast is a Fjøsnisse – this particular variety speaks Swedish.
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Stephen, we tend to get sidetracked so easily, so don't, please, apologise for changing the subject - back to what it's supposed to be in the first place. :D
Robin, I think you thread is a good idea and would let us release some steam, There's Moan, moan, moan of course, but I think of that as the whiners' thread (especially for ME) rather than one for righteous indignation. What does our Maggi think I wonder?
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Even the seat of government in Britain is to be sponsored by Standard fireworks.
I thought it was brown sauce? ::) Standard fireworks used to be made in Huddersfield. Must have been Harold Wilson's idea?
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Stephen, we tend to get sidetracked so easily, so don't, please, apologise for changing the subject - back to what it's supposed to be in the first place. :D
Robin, I think you thread is a good idea and would let us release some steam, There's Moan, moan, moan of course, but I think of that as the whiners' thread (especially for ME) rather than one for righteous indignation. What does our Maggi think I wonder?
I remind you that the "Moan, moan, moan" thread is, to give it its full title, the "Moan, moan, moan----get it off your chest or have a chat" thread..... scope for all there, I hope.... quotes, ranting, gossip...... ::) ;D
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we have here a unusual warm wether - really crazy for this time !
Yesterday a new record for Freiburg ( 40 km from me ) : 21,7° C .....in end of November :o :o :o
So are also crazy things with fungi .....
Just is coming back my wife from the wood .....
Please look :
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....after separating the species :
Boletus edulis
Boletus badius
There was a lot of other species too ...but we like special this both ;D
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I've not tried these. Do you have a recipe Hans?
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Anthony ....I'm not a good cook !!!
Boletus badius is really one of my favorite .....the only problem is they look after cooking not so nice -they get a blue color ( thats a typical sign of this fungi : if you press a little on the spoon on the undersite - they get blue )
We will eat today those B.badius as Risotto ;D ;D ;D .....the B.edulis comes in the fridge ( frozen ) ....we will eat later with pasta :-*
A other nice recipe for this both species is to cook it with chevreuil ;)
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Boletus edulis
Yum yum. :P
My ex-mother in law was born in the mountains of Cortina, Italy - so I am fortunate to have previous experience of Boletus edulis - and it has deservedly gained a place as my second favourite mushroom. :P
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Anthony
Botulis edulis has a very good flavour but the taste is not strong so strong seasoning will kill it.
This also means that unlike (wild) Agaricus/Psalloiita where a single specimen can flavour a largihsh dish you need to be generous with them.
It can be bought dried in bags in delicatessen shops but fresh is of course better.
I dice it 10-15mm. Larger pieces become floppy and less attractive on the plate.
I fry at low heat in butter until the excessive moisture is gone.
It will then have shrunk considerably sometimes down to 30%.
What I do not use immediately goes into the freezer packed in suitabkle lots.
It can be used as ingredient in a lot of things like in a sause to go with meat or in a fish gratine or as Hans writes with pasta or in a soup.
These are what I do but there are more ways.
Cheers
Göte
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Wow, that's late to harvest Boletus, Hans! I find that the Boletus edulis (and other fungi) that come later in the year are generally of very good quality (i.e., no fly larvae and not attacked by a parasitic fungus which is quite common here on Boletus edulis).
In Italy you can buy Porcini pasta - i.e., the pasta itself is made with, presumably, dried milled Boletus edulis mixed in with the flour. Very tasty! Next time we have a good season, must try making Porcini pasta from first principles!
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Anthony seeing your photo I thought I was tripping
Olga your fungi look very nice and your photos as ever perfecto.
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How do you ferment them?
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Anthony seeing your photo I thought I was tripping
What, the "earring" or the Balinese shirt?
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So porcini are actually Boletus edulis? I can buy dried porcini in my local fresh pasta shop.
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I didnt notice the light on your ear
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I think this is among the weirdest looking fungi, when I first saw it I thought it was a discarded child or pets toy. I cannot remember its name but I saw it in Zakinthos last year and this one was photographed in the Peloponnese a couple of weeks ago.
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we have similar ones, but white, always, so far as I know.
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Basket or Cage Fungus, possibly Clathrus ruber - we discussed them earlier - Clathrus spp were eaten by the Maori in New Zealand. They apparently smell like a dead rodent which attracts flies... Not something I'm in a hurry to try...
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I haven't seen the white one for years but they occasionally turned up in my late mother's garden. I don't recall any smell associated with them, but probably I saw them when very new and freshly broken out.
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Stephen, many thanks for identifying it as Clathrus ruber.
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Melvyn
Really fabulous! It is very rare here!
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Olga, your photographs are absolutely beautiful.
I am really enjoying them.
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Here's one of the strangest things I've come across! It was growing on the end of a recently-downed lodgepole pine in the montane forest, and later ID'd as a Hericium spp., in the stage before the toothy projections develop. As I touched it gingerly, it felt like a a soft bag full of marbles and jelly. :o
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Lori, you are a braver soul than me, it looks like a sac of some alien creature's eggs.
I think I must have read too much sci/fi in my pre computer days. :o
Amazing pic!
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Lori, what a strange fungus. I've never seen anything like it. Have you any idea what it looks like inside?
Ulla
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Were you tempted to break it open and see what was inside? I wonder if it smelled bad?
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Helen, at the time I thought that, realistically, it was probably some kind of fungus (for lack of any better idea) but the thought of alien egg sacs definitely crossed my mind. ;D
No, I didn't break it open - the texture was a little too off-putting for that! (And, also, I too have seen/read too much sci-fi to go messing around with possible alien egg sacs... ;D)
Anyway, it was said to be a Heracium spp. when I posted the photo on the UBC fungi ID site. Apparently, many in this genus are edible, though not too tempting at this stage, it seems.
http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=21&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&um=1&sa=3&q=Hericium&btnG=Search+images
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Not only edible, but possible useful in medicine, I gather..... most interesting.... though rather off-putting in the sac stage! Better later!
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Lori,
Are you in a position to watch it develop over time? You mention projections etc as it ages, so it obviously changes shape somewhat?
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No, Paul, we didn't go back to look for it again, and the photo is from a few years ago. I haven't found any photos that look exactly like it, but if it is Heracium, then I presume the fancy drapey bits on the outside (as in the photos) must form later? Unfortunately, I haven't come across another of these since, either.
Lesley, I did break the "skin" a bit as I touched it - very fragile - but I didn't notice any odour.
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Looking at the specimens on the link you gave Lori, they all are incredibly beautiful; snow formations, corals etc. And the boxed ones, dried presumably, made in China. What isn't, nowadays? ???
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Very "frozen waterfall" looks to some of those on your link, Lori. They're amazing things.
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Saw this in the peloponnese a few weeks ago growing with Galanthus reginae olgae in the langhada pass. Any ideas ?
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I'd guess it's a very handsome liverwort of some kind.
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Yes, I think that's right, a liverwort.
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I was in the local park today looking for hibernating bats. I found a bat but also found these. The black one, sadly out of focus is a cramp ball/King Alfred's cakes Daldinia concentric
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Cool! 8)
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back again yesterday and took some better photos
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King Alfreds cakes
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Because they're burnt presumably? Things have been known to come from my own oven in the same condition, when I've put them in then gone to look at the seeds. >:( The pancake is a very pretty colour though. :)
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Do not think my mushrooms are over. 8)
About edible mushrooms. Do you know that mushrooming is a national russian amusement like hunting or fishing? When mushroom time begin many people wear rubber boots, take baskets and drive or go to forests where spend all day. We gather many kinds of mushrooms. Some of them grow in big colonies and some apart.
This year I met legendary mushroom which is known like the best. In Russian it names Ryzhik. It could be eaten uncooked, roasted, boiled, marinaded or fermented. It has it’s own unique scent. It is rare and usually worm-eaten. But this year…
We called Lactarius deliciosus in Czech Ryzec. It is quite strong in the tast. Lovely photos from darkness. ZZ
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We called Lactarius deliciosus in Czech Ryzec. It is quite strong in the tast. Lovely photos from darkness. ZZ
...and in Norway and Sweden they are called Riske and Riska respectively. Sounds like our name comes from the east...
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Zdenek and Stephen,
Sometimes I think we speak the same language...
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The Swedish/Norwegian name can be interpreted as coming from (but not being identical to) "Dangerous, risky"
Which is of course misleading
Is there any second meaning in the Russian Czech words?
cheers
Göte
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Zdenek and Stephen,
Sometimes I think we speak the same language...
Добрый день, Ольга!
(I did Russian at school many years ago...., but don't reply in Russian as that's almost all I remember....)
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Stephen
(http://forum.tvoysad.ru/images/smilies/az.gif) What a pity I didn't learn Norwegian at school. :-\
But I know how to say good day in Czech! (http://forum.tvoysad.ru/images/smilies/gf.gif) Dobrý den! :)
gote
No, Ryzhik in russian means orange, red. It named after it's color no doubt.
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Interesting - and natural. perhaps the Scandinavian word was originally imported from Russia when many Swedish POWs spent time there 1709-1721.
Göte
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No, Ryzhik in russian means orange, red. It named after it's color no doubt.
What do you call the genus Russula then? I wonder if it also means red? The botanical epithet russatus means red...
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What do you call the genus Russula then? I wonder if it also means red? The botanical epithet russatus means red...
Stephen we call Russula syroezhka (сыроежка) that could be interpreted as it can be eaten uncooked or as it eat moisture.
gote may be. :) Words come by strange ways. My village names Redrick's Mountains. It was named in ~ 1400-1500. I know Redrick is a common name in Europe. But I wonder how it appeared here.
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We called Lactarius deliciosus in Czech Ryzec. It is quite strong in the tast. Lovely photos from darkness. ZZ
...and in Norway and Sweden they are called Riske and Riska respectively. Sounds like our name comes from the east...
But can be eaten without risk, presumably. ;D
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The famous matsutake, found only one :/ But lots of Boletus pinophilus. It´s risotto day today, with white wine of course.
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Congratulations, that was a good find! How did it taste? I wonder why the latin name for Matsutake is Tricholoma nauseosum (syn T. matsutake) - doesn't sound very promising (nauseosum = sickening, nauseous).
I only know one place where Boletus pinophilus grows here - in a small pine forest on the outskirts of the city of Trondheim...
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I didn´t prepare it yet, but the taste is very peculiar. Most of the people I know, doesn´t really like that (not that many after all). Especially the smell is funny, fruity sweet. Unprepared fungi smells like garden cress. There was a good article few years back in Finnish Sienilehti, about the nomenclature. I remember, that it said T. matsutake is conserved name, but Index Fungorum says they are separate species. ::)
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Found some matsutake more today, as well Boletus pinophilus, Russula spp., Leccinum spp. and Cortinarius (Rozites) caperatus. Some of the yield...
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Nice collection! We call Cortinarius caperatus Rimsopp here (Rime Mushroom) and some people here consider this the best tasting of all Fungi. Unfortunately it's a highland species here and it was also the Fungus with the highest radioactivity levels in this area after the Tsjernobyl accident, so I've actually never tried this one... One of my fungi books says that it smells of freshly baked bread!
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This one was captured in a beech forest here in Lancashire on Thursday.
FUNGI
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The famous matsutake, found only one :/ But lots of Boletus pinophilus. It´s risotto day today, with white wine of course.
I will take a look in the little pinewood i have. It woud be great to find one (and to brag to Japanese friends ;D )
Matsu-take means pine-fungus by the way.
Boletus edulis just started here.
Cheers
Göte