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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Otto Fauser on October 06, 2009, 12:59:44 AM

Title: Fritillaria ID
Post by: Otto Fauser on October 06, 2009, 12:59:44 AM

I grew this Frit. from Gothenburg Bot. G . seed labelled F. minuta , which it is certainly not. 
  Neither is it as far as I can tell conica or carica or forbsii orsibthorpiana or minima ,
  could it be euboeica ? Would be grateful for a positive ID,
         Otto.

Title: Re: Fritillaria ID
Post by: Gerry Webster on October 06, 2009, 12:00:06 PM

Quote from: Otto Fauser on October 06, 2009, 12:59:44 AM

I grew this Frit. from Gothenburg Bot. G . seed labelled F. minuta , which it is certainly not.  
  Neither is it as far as I can tell conica or carica or forbsii orsibthorpiana or minima ,
  could it be euboeica ? Would be grateful for a positive ID,
         Otto.

Ottto - it could be F. euboeica. Rix in 'Flora Europaea' describes the leaves as glaucous (not obvious from your pic), the style as trifid (branches 1-4 mm) & the capsule as unwinged. The nectaries, not visible in your pic, are dark brown & lanceolate (2.5-4 x 1 mm).

Title: Re: Fritillaria ID
Post by: Maggi Young on October 06, 2009, 04:12:07 PM

I am more inclined to a form of F. aurea, Otto. In our experience, F. euboeica does not have the raised "shoulders that your picture shows, with the nectaries "raised" up, but has a longer, slimmer flower with a smoother outline.

Title: Re: Fritillaria ID
Post by: Gerry Webster on October 06, 2009, 06:24:36 PM

Quote from: Maggi Young on October 06, 2009, 04:12:07 PM

I am more inclined to a form of F. aurea, Otto. In our experience, F. euboeica does not have the raised "shoulders that your picture shows, with the nectaries "raised" up, but has a longer, slimmer flower with a smoother outline.

Yes, perhaps this is  more likely given flower shape. I hadn't thought of that due to absence of obvious tessellation & yellow-green colour. F. aurea as I know it is more golden-yellow. If it is F. aurea, the nectary is rhomboid, 2 mm diam.

Title: Re: Fritillaria ID
Post by: Otto Fauser on October 12, 2009, 07:49:41 AM

Maggi and Gerry , thanks for your help , I think we are now on the right track . Came across Ian's article "Small yellow Frits" in The Rockgarden  , June 2002 , photo No. 171 , depicting F. aurea 'Golden Flag' -with nectaries that are rhomboid and not dark brown as in euboeica .It has the same coloured foliage as my "normal" aurea but is devoid of any tesselation -certainly not as handsome as the normal aurea .

a pic of my normal aurea