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Title: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on September 25, 2009, 09:43:48 AM
I have been so busy in the back garden I didnt notice until this morning that I have 4 peshmenii flowering in a trough at the front.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 25, 2009, 10:22:10 AM
I have been so busy in the back garden I didnt notice until this morning that I have 4 peshmenii flowering in a trough at the front.

Oh! Now then, I have G. peshmenii somewhere.... so they may be flowering too..... where do you suppose I planted them? :-\ :-[
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 25, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
I'm not expecting those I had in a trough to still exist as they flowered in January and I saw no leaves. Those in the bulb house are yet to appear. G. reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' is out.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on September 25, 2009, 01:50:13 PM
I've only just found time to start repotting my reginae olgae forms and seedlings.   :-[
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on September 25, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Not only do I have 4 peshmenii I have 10. Something major has happened between last year and now. I think there were only 3 or 4 last year.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 25, 2009, 06:58:27 PM
Found my pot of G. peshmenii...... but no sign of life yet.  :-X
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on September 25, 2009, 07:50:07 PM
Some peshmenii are in bud and some reginae olgae have flowered and already been eaten by slugs/snails
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on September 25, 2009, 07:54:29 PM
You have to offer better food, Tony.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on September 26, 2009, 11:05:26 AM
G. reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' is out.

Mine haven't put in an appearance yet.  :(  I hope they are OK as they were quite a large clump (well large for my little garden anyway  :D)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 26, 2009, 12:57:08 PM
Here's a comparison between (my only) 'Tilebarn Jamie' and my first reginae-olgae of the season. Both in the bulb house. My first outside one is just above the soil today.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on September 26, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
Very nice Antony, the time of white bells is coming.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on September 26, 2009, 07:10:34 PM
The time of white bells began today here. First plant arrived the surface of the ground. I`m sure you can see the green tips already!!!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 26, 2009, 09:36:00 PM
Galanthus reginae olgae,from a member of the forum, thanks,
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 27, 2009, 12:27:43 AM
Different clones Michael?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Oakwood on October 02, 2009, 02:36:09 PM
Very impressive pics!!! Could somebody tell me, excepting GRO and G. peshmenii, does it exist any fall-flowering snowdrop species yet?? I know Janis has G. transcaucasicus "November Snow", it's all...
Thanks!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 02, 2009, 05:38:14 PM
Dima, Galanthus cilicicus also blooms in autumn and there are some autumn flowering clones of Galanthus rizehensis too.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 02, 2009, 06:03:27 PM
Then of course there is Galanthus elwesii 'Remember, Remember' derived from the hiemalis group.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 02, 2009, 06:49:27 PM
Hello Brian, Our great time is just beginning ;) My first galanthus peshmenii stands in flower.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 02, 2009, 07:34:35 PM
These are my thin peshmenii. They do not respond to being fed
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 03, 2009, 08:27:24 AM
My faithfully galanthus peshmenii with green tips. I enjoy the pleasure of the green marked drops the third year.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 03, 2009, 10:10:40 AM
Hagen are you excited and forgot to edit the photo :D It has a nice shape also and a good inner mark
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 03, 2009, 10:21:32 AM
Yes Mark, it`s the result of my galanthophile vibrating ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 03, 2009, 02:50:40 PM
Hello Hagen, nice to see you again ;)  Lovely peshmenii.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 03, 2009, 03:18:48 PM
Hagen you should attend the Galahthus Gala on Feb 13th. You could meet up with other Germans at Stansted.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 03, 2009, 04:42:39 PM
Is that the official date then Mark?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 03, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on October 03, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
My first Autumn offering.
Galanthus Peshmenii.

Eric
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 03, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
No sign of my Galanthus peshmenii yet.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paul T on October 04, 2009, 07:40:14 AM
Hagen,

That is a VERY nice form of peshmenii.  Far better than I recall seeing before.  Definitely very different to the only type I have ever seen here in Aus.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Jo on October 04, 2009, 12:39:04 PM
Oh Yipeeeeeeeeeee,

at last I have Galanthus reginae olgae in flower in the garden.  Every year since I fist planted it ( about 5 years ago ) the slugs have decapitated the buds as they come through the ground.  This year a geranium has self seeded on top of it and must have protected it from them.

I hope this is the way the whole season will go   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 04, 2009, 12:59:30 PM
Hi Jo, welcome back.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Jo on October 04, 2009, 02:16:02 PM
Hi Mark,  how are the plans going for the N. Ireland snowdrop gala ?  Do we need to start looking at the cheap flight websites yet ?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 04, 2009, 03:08:13 PM
Paul, I mean this Gp cultivar is one of the finest. In the moment he is standing in 5 gardens for trial (German but also GB). Hope he will confirm his qualities.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 04, 2009, 03:25:04 PM
Jo yes you should be looking for flights now Exeter and Southampton to Belfast is usually expensive but Bristol to Belfast can be very cheap
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 04, 2009, 03:33:20 PM
Looking at EasyJet I see they have cut down on flights out of Bristol. Only one flight a day. Can you stay Friday to Sunday?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 04, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
Jo, Southampton to Belfast is only £3.24 return  :o
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 04, 2009, 03:41:02 PM
but taxes brings it up to £73  :o :o :'(
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paul T on October 04, 2009, 11:52:30 PM
Congratulations, Jo.  Nice to beat the snails and slugs this year.  ;D

Hagan,

Good luck with confirming the qualities in the trials.  It is always interesting to see how differently something performs elsewhere.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 05, 2009, 10:05:09 AM
Welcome back, Jo. Good Gal. reg. olg.

Mark, are there dates for a snowdrop gala in the north?

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on October 05, 2009, 05:04:25 PM
The first of my Galanthus peashmenii in flower
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 05, 2009, 06:21:43 PM
Tony, I can see two kinds of G.p in one pot. Nice. Could you help us with only a little distinction between the plants of your pics? How is the development of the leaves?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 05, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
Paddy it's the Ulster Group snowdrop day Jo is asking about on Feb 20th
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on October 05, 2009, 06:57:52 PM
Tony, I can see two kinds of G.p in one pot. Nice. Could you help us with only a little distinction between the plants of your pics? How is the development of the leaves?

Hagen

they are all the same,each has two leaves developing and they are both 2cms long.

I have another pot with three in flower of which two have no leaf development and one again has two leaves each 2cms long.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 05, 2009, 07:10:15 PM
Tony, I observe the same. Not only different plants (from seed) have different long or no leaves. Also daughterbulbs of the same cultivar show a different development of leaves.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on October 05, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
A pot of about 15 r/o "Cambridge" in full bloom at last Saturday's Loughborough AGS show. They looked terrific and along with two other pots won a First.

G. Howard Wheeler through, but no sign of Barnes yet.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on October 07, 2009, 09:51:09 AM
Steve, does this look anything like your 'Barnes', it was taken in our garden on Monday. We have several other flowers of this clone open around the garden but our so-called pot of 'Barnes' isn't doing anything yet and 'Barnes' it's not showing at Anglesey Abbey either.
Below that is a picture of one of our r.o. taken yesterday.
Michael
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on October 08, 2009, 08:23:21 PM
Hi Michael

Well, my Barnes is snug under the soil at the moment, but my Barnes pic from last year shows a dark green ovary with an emerald inner marking, whereas your PA040049 has an elongated ovary and the limey-yellow of the inner mark reminds one of Warley Longbow or similar, but clearly it isn't. Anyway its very pretty and if you have sufficient you can sell me one any time you like.

Kastellorhizo is up here in open ground but not yet in flower. Thank heavens for some of the wet stuff at last.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 17, 2009, 11:46:32 AM
I was shocked to hear that a local snowdrop enthusiast was digging and dividing his collection. This week!  :o :o
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 17, 2009, 07:16:40 PM
If you can`t wait until spring to see what narcissusflys have done................
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on October 18, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
Steve, does this look anything like your 'Barnes', it was taken in our garden on Monday. We have several other flowers of this clone open around the garden but our so-called pot of 'Barnes' isn't doing anything yet and 'Barnes' it's not showing at Anglesey Abbey either.

Michael
Here's G.Barnes in my garden today.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on October 18, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
I was shocked to hear that a local snowdrop enthusiast was digging and dividing his collection. This week!  :o :o

I'm still repotting snowdrops.  :-\  So many time pressures! Most were meant to go out into the garden this year, but no time to prepare the neccessary beds (again!) so back into (bigger) pots. Mostly bulbs from chips and seed. Only a few hundred more to go, I reckon. The bags of this years chips in the cupboard also crying out for attention - some starting to root.   :-[
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 18, 2009, 11:32:32 PM
Good to hve you back. How did you sort the computer problem?

Repotting isnt the same as digging a clump in the garden breaking all the roots. I'l repotting also or replanting in troughs. I take the pot contents to a bucket of water and gently move in the water
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on October 19, 2009, 06:42:03 PM
Steve
Re: Barnes
Nice to see your photo.
My picture may be a bit misleading as it had just come out and this year they look a bit yellowish for a while but get greener over time. There are some additional photos of the same clone shown in the 'reginae-olgae' section that were taken last year.
The main difference between our plant and Barnes appears to be the longer ovary in our plant.
Michael
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on October 19, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
Good to hve you back. How did you sort the computer problem?

Repotting isnt the same as digging a clump in the garden breaking all the roots. I'l repotting also or replanting in troughs. I take the pot contents to a bucket of water and gently move in the water

The problem turned out to be with the wireless router. I realised that the two computers on which I couldn't get onto the SRGC website were both using the wireless router, while the old computer on which I could get onto the website was working through a separate non-wireless router. Simply switched the wireless router off and back on and everything was fine.

It was wierd that the problem with the router only stopped me accessing this website and no others were affected! That's why I didn't think of the router as the problem initially. Normally I turn off the wireless router at night, but I was very busy and distracted, and forgot two or three nights in a row - otherwise the problem would have sorted itself.

 
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Gerard Oud on October 20, 2009, 10:12:35 PM
I had not been looking for a while in the "greenhouse" and noticed that the r-o Hyde Lodge was already flowering for a while! This must be one of my first flowering  r-o's the others are only showing their sprouts.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 21, 2009, 04:07:09 PM
They are looking good with good stems to hold the flowers.

The first trans. December/November Snow is now up and open. Maybe it should be autumn snow
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 21, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
Galanthus transcaucasicus 'October/November/December Snow'
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on October 21, 2009, 07:31:39 PM
trans. = transcaucasicus ?  Remember, there are new readers here all the time who will wonder what on earth you are talking about!!  ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 21, 2009, 08:32:38 PM
I was too lazy to look up the correct spelling of transcaucasicus  :-[
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on October 21, 2009, 11:19:36 PM
I think my next purchase Mark?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 21, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
I should explain the name I gave it - 'October/November/December Snow'. It was obtained as 'December Snow' but because it opened in November it became 'November Snow'. This flower has been out a while and it is as we know October.

It would be interesting to know when it flowers for you if you have it in the collection.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on October 22, 2009, 01:06:44 AM
Cambridges have just stuck their noses up here.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on October 23, 2009, 06:16:14 PM
Some pictures of more G. elwesii that have just opened in our garden.
The first two pictures are of a 'double marked' flower. I think it is unusual for a plant of this type to be flowering so early. Is this correct?
The plant is about 15cm tall but the leaves are only about 2cm at present. The ovary is very strange. The 'outers' are about 28mm and are very incurved.
The single marked plant has 'outers' of about 25mm but at the moment is only 6.5cm tall!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on October 24, 2009, 05:38:30 PM
elwesii Fieldgate Prelude has just stuck its nose up here.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on October 24, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
Quote
elwesii Fieldgate Prelude has just stuck its nose up here.

Whatever next?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 25, 2009, 12:13:59 AM
Modert Art noses are above ground here.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on October 25, 2009, 04:29:26 PM
Richard Ayres and Caroline.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 26, 2009, 03:16:55 PM
I have two more snowdrops above ground except this time they will flowering within days - elwesii Peter Gatehouse and an un-named early elwesii. Their leaves have seperated and the flower is taller than the leaves.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on October 26, 2009, 03:44:37 PM
Green Brush's nose is up.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Gerard Oud on October 30, 2009, 04:54:23 PM
i do have several Green Brushes noses up too!
And Spring Pearl!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Gerdk on November 01, 2009, 09:14:08 AM
just Galanthus peshmenii

Gerd
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on November 01, 2009, 11:04:00 AM
For those that like curiosities here is a picture of what appears to be a virescent form of G. reginae-olgae (judging by the leaves and flowering time etc) that has appeared in our garden. Unfortunately the flower quality is not very good (like the photo - it wouldn't focus very well). The plant also seems a bit feeble. Maybe it's one of those bulbs that produces strange flowers just before it departs to the big snowdrop in the sky!
Does anybody know of a virescent r.o. in cultivation or seen in the wild?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on November 01, 2009, 11:10:04 AM
I've just answered my own question. Have just seen Melvyn's picture of his beautiful plant. Should have looked there sooner!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 01, 2009, 02:55:41 PM
Michael, if you have galanthus , that not seem to be healthy, than often you can find much more green in the flowers and often the whole plant looks a little bit glassy. I wish, your plant isn`t so. We all would like G r-o virescens.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 08, 2009, 09:18:59 PM
Too many of of season snowdrops here now. elwesii Peter Gatehouse, Barnes and two unnamed selections
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 09, 2009, 06:16:11 AM
in the last sunlight of the weekend...
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 09, 2009, 11:11:27 AM
a poc reginae-olgae? Very nice
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 09, 2009, 12:59:43 PM
Very interesting looking, Hagen. Very  nice.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on November 09, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
Great shot Hagen  8)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 09, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
This autumn, we have seen here Galanthus poculiforme types, virescens types, types with good tips and much more. What is missing? Yes, we only need sandersii types too. Than we have the whole collection of the spring snowdrops also in the autumn season. Who will show us the first yellow autumn galanthus?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ArneM on November 09, 2009, 05:30:20 PM
Who will show us the first yellow autumn galanthus?

I was told that a yellow reginae-olgae does exist. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures... :(
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 09, 2009, 06:18:33 PM
I have been promised a photo of a yellow reginae-olgae and totally green one for my web site. Time will tell
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 09, 2009, 06:34:21 PM
good news, Arne and Mark. A yellow Gro would be great. I never saw a yellowish Gp in Turkey. Oh, I saw a lot, their time was over ;). May be we meet us in Oirlich???
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Pauli on November 10, 2009, 08:03:45 AM
Here in Linz the Galanthus season is only about to start.

Hope, that winter will not arrive to early!

All the best!

Herbert


Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 10, 2009, 11:27:39 AM

Galanthus "Autumn Beauty"

An interesting Galanthus not seen before, sold at Wisley recently.

These were sold as a chance seedling cross of Elwesii and Reginae -Olgae.

These have been in flower for several weeks now.

Eric


Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 10, 2009, 03:26:25 PM
Da hast Du ja noch alles vor Dir, Herbert. Wie angenehm.
Eric, can you see the supervolute vernation of the leaves of G. elwesii ??? Or is the leave more applanate like G.r-o??
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2009, 04:12:48 PM
Hagen this Galanthus is supposed to reginae-olgae x elwesii
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: hadacekf on November 10, 2009, 06:17:09 PM
Galanthus reginae olgae flower still.

Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 10, 2009, 06:40:13 PM
Hello Franz,

This looks like the beginning of your "bulbs-in-grass" display for another year - one of the treats of the forum.

The snowdrops look wonderful and I look forward to further postings.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on November 10, 2009, 07:23:39 PM

Galanthus "Autumn Beauty"

An interesting Galanthus not seen before, sold at Wisley recently.
These were sold as a chance seedling cross of Elwesii and Reginae -Olgae.

These have been in flower for several weeks now.

Eric

Obtained four Autumn Beauty bulbs from Wisley. Two have inner marks as per Eric's pic, the other two have a substantially smaller mark.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 10, 2009, 08:23:11 PM

Galanthus "Autumn Beauty"

An interesting Galanthus not seen before, sold at Wisley recently.
These were sold as a chance seedling cross of Elwesii and Reginae -Olgae.

These have been in flower for several weeks now.

Eric

Obtained four Autumn Beauty bulbs from Wisley. Two have inner marks as per Eric's pic, the other two have a substantially smaller mark.


It's a pity they gave it a name then when it appears to be variable. Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2009, 08:37:52 PM
And I was considering sending a runner to Wisley.

I have crossed my transcaucasicus with reginae-olgae. Time will tell what omes of it.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 10, 2009, 09:17:36 PM

Galanthus "Autumn Beauty"

An interesting Galanthus not seen before, sold at Wisley recently.
These were sold as a chance seedling cross of Elwesii and Reginae -Olgae.

These have been in flower for several weeks now.

Eric

Obtained four Autumn Beauty bulbs from Wisley. Two have inner marks as per Eric's pic, the other two have a substantially smaller mark.


It's a pity they gave it a name then when it appears to be variable. Paddy


My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 10, 2009, 10:03:18 PM

Galanthus "Autumn Beauty"

An interesting Galanthus not seen before, sold at Wisley recently.
These were sold as a chance seedling cross of Elwesii and Reginae -Olgae.

These have been in flower for several weeks now.

Eric

Obtained four Autumn Beauty bulbs from Wisley. Two have inner marks as per Eric's pic, the other two have a substantially smaller mark.


It's a pity they gave it a name then when it appears to be variable. Paddy


My thoughts exactly.


My three vary too. ???

Eric
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2009, 10:24:01 PM
What do the leaves look like?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 10, 2009, 11:01:03 PM
I would guess they vary also.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 10, 2009, 11:06:44 PM
Vary interesting. Must invest in one!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 10, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
Vary interesting. Must invest in one!

But, which one?

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 11, 2009, 06:51:20 AM
What do the leaves look like?
There is the question for the vernation of the leaves again ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 11, 2009, 09:43:31 AM
You expect better from Wisley. :(
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 11, 2009, 09:55:28 AM
Not really Brian. All the Crocus I bought there were wrong which means like every other garden centre they buy in stock. Could this new autumn snowdrop be hype? If it's variable it cant be bulked up by twinscaling.

Steve can you post photos to show how variable they are? Can you take a photo of the leaves?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 11, 2009, 10:00:38 AM
I disagree Mark, you should expect better, and if you don't get it you should complain loudly, otherwise things will never change.  It's no good sitting on your haunches and accepting it.  Rant over.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 11, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
Wisely said Brian. I totally agree.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 11, 2009, 10:35:00 AM
Yes we should expect better from them because it's the RHS but they are running a commercial business and if they can make a quick profit they will. Most of the people who pass through probabbly dont know a plant or bulb is wrong.

For all we know the plant centre has nothing to do with RHS. The plant offer inside their magazine is nothing to do with the RHS. It's an advertisment. Well, that's what I was told by a couple I know who 'work' for the RHS at the shows trying to get new members.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on November 11, 2009, 05:03:03 PM
Not really Brian. All the Crocus I bought there were wrong which means like every other garden centre they buy in stock. Could this new autumn snowdrop be hype? If it's variable it cant be bulked up by twinscaling.

Steve can you post photos to show how variable they are? Can you take a photo of the leaves?

Mark

Back from London, just read your post; dark now, will take pics of leaves tomorrow and post.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 13, 2009, 09:06:49 PM

Photos of Autumn Beauty leaves. Front and Back

All my three plants seem to have identical leaves but vary in the amount of green on the inners.


Eric
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 13, 2009, 09:09:13 PM
Eric thanks for the photo. At the base does one leaf clasp the other?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 13, 2009, 09:12:37 PM
Eric thanks for the photo. At the base does one leaf clasp the other?

Yes Mark it does.

Eric
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 13, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
Today I saw one of my Castlegar is above ground and Colossus.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on November 14, 2009, 10:02:22 AM

Photos of Autumn Beauty leaves. Front and Back

All my three plants seem to have identical leaves but vary in the amount of green on the inners.


Eric

'Autumn Beauty' looks and sounds like early-flowering pure elwesii monostictus. No sign of any reginae-olgae in the leaves at all. Someone probably raised these variable 'drops from open pollinated elwesii seed, found they flowered in autumn, has some reginae-olgae growing within a 100 ft radius in the garden and decided they must have crossed!  >:(
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 14, 2009, 10:06:39 AM
I thought the same but didnt want to be shot down.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on November 14, 2009, 11:08:49 AM
I thought the same but didnt want to be shot down.

Anyone who disagrees will now have to shoot us both down.  :)  Thanks for putting my book on your website, by the way. Brill! Should help generate a few sales.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on November 14, 2009, 11:13:29 AM
I have 'Barnes' in flower now which is the same week as last year.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 14, 2009, 02:29:04 PM
Tony & Mark,

Whatever its breeding, it is unacceptable that a cultivar name was applied.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 14, 2009, 08:07:42 PM
Tony & Mark,

Whatever its breeding, it is unacceptable that a cultivar name was applied.

Paddy

I wonder who fancies taking on Wisley. ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 14, 2009, 08:35:44 PM
Eric,

There was a suggestion made earlier in the week that, perhaps, the retail outlet at Wisley might be an independent or, perhaps, a semi-independent business and that the authorities at Wisley may not have authority and therefore no responsibility for what is sold in the garden centre area. However, I find this hard to believe myself and feel that it is simply poor judgement on the part of someone there.

Who can take them on? I really don't know. I am not in a position to purchase from them but, if I were located where I could visit and purchase, I would not.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 14, 2009, 09:12:13 PM
Tony & Mark,

Whatever its breeding, it is unacceptable that a cultivar name was applied.

Paddy

I wonder who fancies taking on Wisley. ;D
;) ;D ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 14, 2009, 09:31:07 PM
Tony & Mark,

Whatever its breeding, it is unacceptable that a cultivar name was applied.

Paddy

I wonder who fancies taking on Wisley. ;D
;) ;D ::)

This is NOT an isolated case I"m afraid to say. >:(
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 15, 2009, 09:52:18 AM
I have had a look at the Wisley website and have written to them but only to an address which receives general queries as no address more specific appeared for me to use. My e-mail might get passed to the appropriate person and a response may come. I will post any response to the forum.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 15, 2009, 10:50:07 AM
I have had a look at the Wisley website and have written to them but only to an address which receives general queries as no address more specific appeared for me to use. My e-mail might get passed to the appropriate person and a response may come. I will post any response to the forum.

Paddy

Paddy, you will get a reply, but it might take a few days.

We will all wait with interest.

Eric
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on November 15, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
I have 'Faringdon Double' flowering in the garden! Never flowered this early before - always in late December or early January.  ???
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 15, 2009, 06:35:45 PM
Here first G. elwesii var. monostictus are in flower.
Unfortunately they grow in a dark corner of the garden - so it was impossible to take an acceptable picture.
Luckily some other are in flower also - G.cilicicus, G. peshmenii and a superb G. reginae-olgae, given to me by a very generous friend!  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 06:48:26 PM
Lucky you Hans with Galanthus cilicicus. Mine, if it is correct, have no flowers for second year.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 15, 2009, 07:38:51 PM
Lucky you Hans with Galanthus cilicicus. Mine, if it is correct, have no flowers for second year.

And mine departed company in 1997.  :'(

Cambridge almost out here.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on November 15, 2009, 07:52:59 PM
Round the garden today in the sunshine on hands and knees with clipboard. The score is 4 varieties gone over, 6 more in flower, and a further 80 above ground in various stages of growth.  That represents a sizeable percentage of  the total. Too early to say if there are any losses. Preparing to hang out bunting - my Scilla Madeirensis is flowering after four years of regular prayer. SWhall I post a pic Maggi?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 15, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
yes please pp Maggi Young. :D
But of course, Steve.  Must say, a pic of this "Round the garden today in the sunshine on hands and knees with clipboard. " would have been really great!!  ;)




Seems a crazy old season for these  "early" appearances, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 15, 2009, 09:03:05 PM
Some of my Dactylorhiza have big green noses out of the ground already
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 15, 2009, 09:50:56 PM
I have nothing above ground except a group of r-o, which are well past.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 16, 2009, 12:04:32 AM
My 'Three Ships' that flowered at the correct time last year, are already in bloom this year.

Last year I had 2, this year I have 3  :)  One is in full bloom, one is in bus and the third is just emerging  ???

Will take a photograph when the weather permits - only had 75mm of rain over the last 3 days.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 16, 2009, 02:46:28 PM
Lucky you Hans with Galanthus cilicicus. Mine, if it is correct, have no flowers for second year.

Thanks Mark - it does fine here, a pity vegetative multiplication is almost non-existent.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on November 16, 2009, 11:18:18 PM
Galanthus cilicicus is in flower at the moment.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 17, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
Tony, really beautiful picture of this gem!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 18, 2009, 01:28:07 PM
here some pics from today ( now with sun )  8)

Galanthus cilicicus
Galanthus transcaucasicus ( ex Iran ) autumn flowering
Galanthus elwesii autumn flowering ( ex Taurus )

I dont agree with the name G.elwesii v. monostictus ....this plants have not always only single markings !
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 01:29:32 PM
Here's transcaucasicus again in the trough it grows in.

Has anyone tried twin scaling transcaucasicus?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 18, 2009, 01:40:27 PM
Here some pics from

Galanthus peshmenii 'Kastellorizon'

the last pic shows really big differences in flower size  :D

Hans 8)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 18, 2009, 01:41:22 PM
Mark
I did not notice such variability of marks on transcaucasicus in the field - see the mark on Hans' plant.

Let me know when you have successfully twin scaled transcaucasicus and I might then pluck up the courage to try.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 18, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
Hans

I did see some large peshmenii on my holiday - they look like reginae-olgae at a distance.  They are certainly in the minority.

I have not heard of 'Kastellorizon' - is this a German selection?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 18, 2009, 02:00:17 PM
Artur ,

I grow both ( G.ger. olgae + G.peshmenii) side by side .....if I take away the labels nobody can say what is what.

No - G.peshmenii was also found long time ago ( look in the Phillips & Rix book) there is it listet as G.niv. cilicicus

There are some sellers in Englang who sell this plants !
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 02:07:48 PM
Arthur I dont know if these can be any other autumn flowering species
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 18, 2009, 02:15:48 PM
Arthur I dont know if these can be any other autumn flowering species

Was the seller reliable?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 02:34:14 PM
I just went out to take a couple of measurements - the leaves are 9cm long and no more than 1cm wide with 1x13cm and 2x9cm scapes.

A. Davis says when flowering the leaves are 7-20cm long x 1-1.5cm with 2-4 furrows and a 4-12cm scape. The inner mark is a V or inverted U.

There must be more forum members growing this snowdrop.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 02:34:39 PM

Quote
Was the seller reliable?


Up to now yes.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 02:38:33 PM
Hans are the leaves of your transcaucasicus furrowed?

Arthur my plants match Davis descrition except for the furrows on the leaves.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on November 18, 2009, 02:58:40 PM
Hans

I did see some large peshmenii on my holiday - they look like reginae-olgae at a distance.  They are certainly in the minority.


The peshmenii I found growing on the 'large rock' were quite short with smaller flowers than those at Gedelme which were in much moister ground and were taller with much larger flowers.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 18, 2009, 03:27:28 PM
Hans are the leaves of your transcaucasicus furrowed?

Arthur my plants match Davis descrition except for the furrows on the leaves.

Mark - I have just looked ....my plants are also not furrow ....but with a very nice fragrance !
Please look here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2879.0
thats my pics from spring
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: snowdropman on November 18, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
I have not heard of 'Kastellorizon' - is this a German selection?
Arthur - the Joint Rock Garden Plant Committee awarded an AM to Bob & Rannveig Wallis for a pan of G. peshmenii 'Kastellorhizo' which they exhibited at Loughborough on 13th October 2007 (see show report, including photo, on page 99 of RHS Daffodils, Snowdrops & Tulips 2008-2009 edition). Their stock originated from the 1974 Graham Rix introduction from the Greek Island of Kastellorhizo.

For many years now, plants from Kastellorhizo have been circulating as G. peshmenii Kastellorhizo Form - rather confusingly, the show report says "This does not necessarily mean that any plant from this island race will fall within this cultivar"  ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 18, 2009, 04:01:50 PM
Here's transcaucasicus again in the trough it grows in.

Has anyone tried twin scaling transcaucasicus?
Looks quite vigorous Mark? I have still to find an autumn snowdrop that will grow well for me outside. I have some new r-os to try next season.  G. transcaucasicus might fit the bill, if I can get some?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 04:11:15 PM
Time will tell how vigerous it is. The first to flower has a nice swollen ovary already.

All my trancaucasicus, peshmenii and reginae-olgaes are now grown in the ground or in troughs
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: snowdropman on November 18, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
G. transcaucasicus might fit the bill, if I can get some?
Anthony - I have made a note to send you up a bulb next year, probably when I do my repotting.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 18, 2009, 05:11:06 PM
Plates 15 and 47 of Aaron Davis' book show transcaucasicus as a painting and photo. None show furrows
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 18, 2009, 05:16:33 PM
Mark ...I had the same idea  :D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 18, 2009, 05:16:59 PM
I have not heard of 'Kastellorizon' - is this a German selection?
Arthur - the Joint Rock Garden Plant Committee awarded an AM to Bob & Rannveig Wallis for a pan of G. peshmenii 'Kastellorhizo' which they exhibited at Loughborough on 13th October 2007 (see show report, including photo, on page 99 of RHS Daffodils, Snowdrops & Tulips 2008-2009 edition). Their stock originated from the 1974 Graham Rix introduction from the Greek Island of Kastellorhizo.

For many years now, plants from Kastellorhizo have been circulating as G. peshmenii Kastellorhizo Form - rather confusingly, the show report says "This does not necessarily mean that any plant from this island race will fall within this cultivar"  ::)

Chris
Thanks for the information.  

Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 18, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
G. transcaucasicus might fit the bill, if I can get some?
Anthony - I have made a note to send you up a bulb next year, probably when I do my repotting.
Thanks Chris. I'm beginning to think there should be an autumn snowdrop event? 8)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on November 18, 2009, 08:39:25 PM
Hi Everyone
We have several unnamed clones of G. elwesii in flower and also 'Peter Gatehouse' and one we call 'Green Smudge'. A few of you have seen photos of 'Green Smudge' before but we have not posted pictures on the SRGC site before. 'Green Smudge' has fairly large flowers (eventually - they expand a lot as they mature) and very flat outer segments. In the centre of the segment near the apex there is a variable and irregular green patch (smudge). When we found it the green marks were almost perfect circles but it has never been like that since! On warm days the outer segments are held almost horizontal. The leaves are silver-grey and strongly recurved but short at the start of flowering. It has flowered consistently mid-November into December in both are most recent gardens (one light chalk, the other heavy clay). Unlike 'Remember Remember it does not fall over, maybe because the segments are not as thick and heavy. It is one of our favourite very early flowering G. elwesii but not one Rod Leeds will be talking about in February!

G. reginae-olgae Tilebarn Jamie, Eleni, and Mette are still looking good and Sophie has now produced a better shaped flower than the first one. Alex Duguid is just showing.
Does anybody know anything about G. reginae-olgae Lyzzick (not sure if that's spelt correct)?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: snowdropman on November 18, 2009, 08:48:31 PM
Does anybody know anything about G. reginae-olgae Lyzzick (not sure if that's spelt correct)?
Mike - not sure if he is around at the moment, but I think that Melvyn Jope may be able to throw some light on this one.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on November 18, 2009, 09:52:14 PM
Does anybody know anything about G. reginae-olgae Lyzzick (not sure if that's spelt correct)?
Mike - not sure if he is around at the moment, but I think that Melvyn Jope may be able to throw some light on this one.

Michael
 
Not sure if Lyzzick is a reginae -olgae as the one I know is  winter flowering and is a hybrid. :-\
Melvyn Jope discovered winter flowering Lyzzick in the lake district and is named after the hotel in which grounds it was found. I am sure Melvyn will fill you in with more info.


Eric
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 19, 2009, 10:23:43 AM
Hello Michael,
First glad that Eleni, Mette and Sofia are looking good and especially that the second flower on Sofia is looking better than the first.
Lyzzick is not a Galanthus reginae-olgae selection and more likely a plicatus nivalis cross. It was originally found near a hotel of the same name in Cumbria and is a very strong grower in the garden.
It will flower February/March.
This is an image of the flower.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Jim McKenney on November 21, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
In today's (November 21) Washington Post, on page F-1, under the heading “Plants noxious to D.C. area”  there is this: “Snowdrops (Galanthus nivalis) …are considered invasive and toxic and have colonized in many U.S. states where they are considered invasive alien flora.” 

We snowdrop enthusiasts on this side of the pond struggle against many hurdles which make it difficult for us to feel like fully fledged participants in the snowdrop surge. Now, it seems, I stand to be accused of encouraging and growing "invasive alien flora". 

Don't worry; I have a good sense of humor.

The snowdrop season has started here with a plant I call my Thanksgiving snowdrop. We celebrate the big national holiday Thanksgiving next week, and this plant is generally in bloom at that time. It's a selection of (nominally) Galanthus elwesii.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 21, 2009, 09:40:57 PM
The snowdrop season has started here with a plant I call my Thanksgiving snowdrop. We celebrate the big national holiday Thanksgiving next week, and this plant is generally in bloom at that time. It's a selection of (nominally) Galanthus elwesii.

Jim - Does your plant leaf out before winter strikes?  Good to hear there are autumn bloomers for the east that stand the cold.  Congratulations.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Jim McKenney on November 21, 2009, 10:48:54 PM
Jim - Does your plant leaf out before winter strikes?  Good to hear there are autumn bloomers for the east that stand the cold.  Congratulations.

johnw

Yes, the foliage is already four inches out of the ground. I grow this plant in a protected cold frame. Before I moved it into the cold frame, it survived for ten or fifteen years in the lawn, exposed to all weather.

There is nothing special about it except for its bloom time;  but of course that makes it very special, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on November 22, 2009, 05:41:28 AM
Just catching up on all the posts -

 - Nice to see Hagan's poculiform reginae olgae on page 6  :)

 - Glad that Franz's bulb lawn is starting to entertain us already   8).

 - Interesting to read everyones thoughts about 'Autumn Beauty'  :-\ .

 - loving Han's 'Galanthus reginae-olgae -green tipped- 11.09.jpg' on page 9   :P

In my garden I have had flowers on Tilebarn Jamie and Hyde Lodge so far (thank you Martin for sending me the correct form ).  I guess about 75% of all my plants are showing signs of life with tiny green noses showing.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 11:33:56 AM
Hey John,

Good to have your company again; haven't seen you in a while.  I suppose the snowdrops drew you out of your retirement (from the forum).

How are your own snowdrops going now? You reported worries about them last year; sent lots to your mother's garden for safe-keeping until the panic has passed etc.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 22, 2009, 11:58:20 AM
Did anyone contact Wisley? I can find no reference on the internet for the people who sold the bulbs to Wisley.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
Yes, Mark, I wrote to Wisley but haven't heard from them yet.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on November 22, 2009, 12:48:22 PM
Hey John,

Good to have your company again; haven't seen you in a while.  I suppose the snowdrops drew you out of your retirement (from the forum).

How are your own snowdrops going now? You reported worries about them last year; sent lots to your mother's garden for safekeeping until the panic has passed etc.

Paddy

Hi Paddy

My jungle garden is packed away into my little breakfast room so I should be visiting SRGC more and UKEG, GOTE, EPS, and HTUK less over the coming months.  This year I have managed to retain room for one chair in my little 'lean-to' so I can still sit and read, while surrounded by plants, with my morning cup of tea while watching the 57 sparrows fight over the bird feeders.  Mum and Dad will not be happy when they arrive for a stay next weekend as there is no longer a table and two chairs for their use :-\ .....  Perhaps I need to take some of the plants to my bedroom with me  ::)

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Galanthus virus.... There is still one border in my garden that I am avoiding planting in as that is where my main virus problem was in 2007 - but I have made a new raised bed and plunged some of my 'pond baskets' into it - I still have about 50 snowies in baskets above ground  :o but one day I shall find a nice spot for them - or they won't be distinct enough to merit a place in my little piece of the earth anyway so will be given away to other enthusiasts to enjoy.

Not sure I will be able to do as many of my 'roving reporter' posts this year, without the driver - but..... I already have the Dunblane bulb show lined up and the RHS halls early spring show - so I will do my best.   ;) :D

Best wishes

John
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 01:23:20 PM
John,

Love the calocacias. Mine have been allowed to dry off and have been cut down.

Looking forward to seeing more of you in coming months. Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 22, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Sunny weather, 17°C, not really November. But time for more and more snowdrops. Every day it will be some more. Also the first G.e.m. bloom.(Galanthus elwesii var. monostictus)

  G. CAMBRIDGE
 G. r-o  ( regina-olgae) Czech source
 G.peshmenii    (edit by maggi... is this correct, it was labelled G. p.  :-\??)
 G.e.m.Galanthus elwesii var. monostictus Novemberblüher
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 05:08:22 PM
Lovely selection, Hagen. Your season is well ahead of mine.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 22, 2009, 05:15:50 PM
G.e.m. Novemberblüher has no notch. Is this normal?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 22, 2009, 05:17:53 PM
It seems to have a small sinus. Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 22, 2009, 05:29:26 PM
What is G.e.m.?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: WimB on November 22, 2009, 05:40:33 PM
What is G.e.m.?

G.e.m. is Galanthus elwesii var. monostictus... (HELP, I'm turning into one of them.....)
  => a Galanthophile, not a Snowdrop....  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 22, 2009, 05:42:27 PM
Paddy, Mark.
4 years ago I bought 500 G. elwesii. A few are very early and all these autumnflowering G.e`s are G.e.m. I cant find truly differences to the Hiemalis-group. But one has a very big apical mark.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 22, 2009, 05:51:36 PM

(HELP, I'm turning into one of them.....)
  => a Galanthophile, not a Snowdrop....  ;


It`s no problem, Wim ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 22, 2009, 05:57:15 PM
 Ref:  G.p, klein141

Hagen, does this mean Galanthus peshmenii ? I have edited  your post to include the names of the pohots so the search engine can  find them, but I was not sure of this meaning?
Thanks for the G.E.M. meaning!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 22, 2009, 06:00:54 PM
You are so right, Maggi. Thank You
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 22, 2009, 06:40:59 PM

(HELP, I'm turning into one of them.....)
  => a Galanthophile, not a Snowdrop....  ;


It`s no problem, Wim ;)

No problem? ... just postpone purchasing a house for say 5 years.  ;D

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 22, 2009, 08:11:54 PM
All very nice Hagen but I particularly like the G. peshmenii. Rather worryingly your abbreviations were not a problem, I guess there is no going back!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: WimB on November 22, 2009, 10:04:53 PM

(HELP, I'm turning into one of them.....)
  => a Galanthophile, not a Snowdrop....  ;


It`s no problem, Wim ;)

No problem? ... just postpone purchasing a house for say 5 years.  ;D

johnw

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 23, 2009, 04:16:30 PM
It was a sunny day, 23ºC - perfect conditions to make pictures of a few Galanthus elwesii var. monostictus . :)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 23, 2009, 04:26:55 PM
Very nice Hans. I would remove the brown tip from the virescent elwesii.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 23, 2009, 06:55:22 PM
Hans,

I am terribly envious -  not of the snowdrops but of the lovely bright sunshine and temperatures of 23oC.

You seem to have a variable group of snowdrops. The second one has a larger than usual marking for G. elwesii monostictus, actually almost a completely green inner segment and also seems to have good length in the outer segments. The third one also has a big mark on the inner segment and also nice outer segment markings.

A nice group of snowdrops.

By the way, here in dull and wet Ireland, G. elw. monostictus has not even peeped above ground. How we wish for some sunlight.

Paddy -oh, I removed the little brown tip that was on the petal!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 24, 2009, 09:03:07 AM
Thanks Mark and Paddy (especially for removing the brown tip ;))

Do not have a large snowdrop collection but some nice ones (mainly given by friends). By sowing (started last year) I hope to get some different and perhaps still better adapted plants for my local conditions.
 
Doubt it is a good consolation- but this morning we have only 8ºC - hope rain will stop and sun will shine for irish and the british members. :-\
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on November 24, 2009, 10:40:22 AM
As I haven't posted a picture yet this season I thought I would take one of 'Hyde Lodge' before it goes over (Thanks once again to Martin who gave me this after I was sold an impostor by someone last year  :() (Sorry the picture isn't great - it is dull and miserable here today).

Within the next couple of weeks I should have 'Alex Duguid', 'Three Ships', 'Donald Sims Early' in flower - I'm starting to get excited already!   ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 24, 2009, 01:49:56 PM
John, I'd especially like to see a photo of 'Alex Duguid' when "he" flowers, please.

He  was a famous grower and nurseryman who retired to Aberdeenshire. We have a lot of his gardening books... including his entire run of bound AGS bulletins  8)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 24, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
My Hyde Lodge that was a tiny non flowering plant last year has a flower now. To my eye it's an ordinary reginae-olgae
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ashley on November 24, 2009, 02:31:48 PM
oh, I removed the little brown tip that was on the petal!

117 views and counting: does this mean that cosmetic surgery is more popular than ...?  :-\ ;) ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on November 24, 2009, 03:11:43 PM
Don't worry Ashley - it is a quirk of the forum software.  If a picture is large and needs to be expanded from its thumbnail to full size it adds to the 'view count' each time it is expanded.  If however a picture is small and cannot be expanded beyond the thumbnail it has its 'view count' add to each time the message is even read by someone because the image is already at full size.  Does that make sense?...  :-\

So basically the Galanthus Autumn 2009 thread has been read 131 times (and counting) since the small image was added by Paddy - the number of views isn't because it doesn't have a brown tip to the flower.   ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ashley on November 24, 2009, 03:27:04 PM
Thanks John.  Phew, no need for a new thread then ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on November 24, 2009, 03:35:58 PM
(Sorry Ashley - I think you knew that already.   :-[  ;))

Cosmetic surgery could be tricky - do you think tippex on the petals could work?   :-\

 
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 24, 2009, 03:43:04 PM
I only suggested removing the brown tip because it could be a bit of Stagonspora
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on November 24, 2009, 03:48:28 PM
John

I like 'Hyde Lodge' very much.  It is quite different from a lot of reginae-olgae where the petals are long and elegant, the shorter rounder petals are fine.

My 'Three Ships' has been out for a week  :o
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 24, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
I only suggested removing the brown tip because it could be a bit of Stagonspora

 Yes, Mark.... which made me think at the time...
1)  is that sufficient to stop the spread if the infection was present?
2)I would worry that the larger wounded area caused by cutting off the brown area would be more prone to infection  ??? ???
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 24, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
I pick brown bits off when I see them. Wether it helps or not I'm not sure
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: KentGardener on November 24, 2009, 04:29:17 PM
My 'Three Ships' has been out for a week :o
Hi Arthur,

My aunt in South East London phoned me a few days back to say her 'Three Ships' was flowering - which I thought was early by a few weeks!   :-\  Her 'Peter Gatehouse' is also well into bloom.

My 'Three Ships' will be earlier than last year - but not like yours and my aunt's flowering in November!  :o
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 24, 2009, 07:04:59 PM
I only suggested removing the brown tip because it could be a bit of Stagonspora

And that was the very reason I removed it.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 24, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
I only suggested removing the brown tip because it could be a bit of Stagonspora
Thanks Mark - I appreciated your first observation and your comment very much and removed the tip immediately after reading it. I do not think it is Stagonspora as this snowdrop was growing in an animal highway and was damaged while emerging. This might have caused this brown tip / necrosis- but before it could get a subsequently infection, better against the accused. ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 25, 2009, 09:09:07 AM
Quote
My Hyde Lodge that was a tiny non flowering plant last year has a flower now. To my eye it's an ordinary reginae-olgae

I can only suggest that you were sold the same erroneous clone as John and I, most disappointing.  Your replacement from Martin looks super John :)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 25, 2009, 09:52:04 AM
Maybe I should rate suppliers on my web site. What does everybody think? 
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on November 25, 2009, 10:06:15 AM
make sure you have a good lawyer!!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paul T on November 25, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
Mark,

If you do, you're almost certain to get some sort of legal action against you, or that is how the world seems to be going now. ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 25, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
but lots of web sites rate various suppliers
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on November 25, 2009, 10:57:57 AM
Don't do that Mark, the suppliers will all stop selling to you and you will be blacklisted, and then you have  the Legal stuff.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 25, 2009, 11:02:24 AM
Quote
Maybe I should rate suppliers on my web site.

It seems a little unfair that one or two bad experiences would tarnish everyone else's views of a seller.  I see it as a self supporting system...I know who I trust to sell decent snowdrops and wouldn't give my business to the others again.  Once bitten twice shy!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on November 25, 2009, 04:47:48 PM
Don't do that Mark, the suppliers will all stop selling to you and you will be blacklisted, and then you have  the Legal stuff.
..and you will have the impossible task of proving that the disease was caused or known about by the seller and hasn't miraculously infected the plant since the seller sold it to you.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on November 25, 2009, 04:49:18 PM
Don't do that Mark, the suppliers will all stop selling to you and you will be blacklisted, and then you have  the Legal stuff.
..and you will have the impossible task of proving that the disease was caused or known about by the seller and hasn't miraculously infected the plant since the seller sold it to you.
(speaking as somebody who has just actually won a libel action - yesterday.)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 25, 2009, 05:00:08 PM
I was only thinking of rating people out of 10.
eg "8 out of 10 people thought their bulbs were under sized / non flowering bulbs"
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on November 26, 2009, 01:41:51 PM
Here is one of mine flowering at present. I won't put this outside until I have an offset - G cilicius WKFF 9819. Anybody know whose collection this is?

Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 26, 2009, 01:50:45 PM
A lovely snowdrop, Ian. Well grown!

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 26, 2009, 02:28:01 PM
My reginae-olgae Hyde Lodge that obviously isnt
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on November 26, 2009, 08:11:51 PM
G.cillicius is tender isn't it ian? have you found it difficult?

Yes it is reputed to be a little tricky but it is in a pot in a frame so we will see. My source grows this outside. Once it bulks up I shall do the same I don't like them in pots if it is not absolutely necessary
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Gerard Oud on November 27, 2009, 10:01:25 PM
Its unbelievable how the warm weather is stimulating the snowdrops Three Ships and almost Colossus are flowering now! Lots others are showing large sprouts!
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Diane Whitehead on November 29, 2009, 05:17:04 AM
How long should it take for a bud to open?

I have had a bud on a long stem for a bit over two weeks
now, and it is still tight and pointing up.  I brought it into
a cold greenhouse which is the same temperature as it is
outside - 7 C.

I didn't mean that hyphen to be a minus sign.  The temperature
is plus 7 C
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Alan_b on November 29, 2009, 11:20:07 AM
Did anyone contact Wisley? I can find no reference on the internet for the people who sold the bulbs to Wisley.
Yes, Mark, I wrote to Wisley but haven't heard from them yet.


Hello everybody, my first post of the season.

In the context of the Plant Centre at R.H.S. Wisley and their bulb supplier,  I bought a "Galanthus platyphyllus" there last year but began to have doubts as soon as I got it home and compared what I had with the description in the book (see my post here http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2604.225 ).  The considered opinion of the forum members was that the snowdrop I had bought was not platyphyllus, so in due course I returned it to the Plant Centre and was given a refund.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on November 29, 2009, 02:30:10 PM
Here is G Barnes flowering now. Sorry about the coffee stains but am trying coffee grains to keep away the slugs  ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 29, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
Are the coffee grains having any effect, Ian ? These plants seem unchewed....  :D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on November 29, 2009, 03:02:39 PM
Are the coffee grains having any effect, Ian ? These plants seem unchewed....  :D

Maggi I am trying this because I always get a lot of nibbling or even cutting of flowering stems with very early bulbs. It seems to work and time will tell but with some of the plants where I have single bulbs (and Helleborus thibetanus) I have used a belt and bracers approach applying coffee grains and a drench of Slugclear (a liquid slug killer) which seems to be the only thing which will deal with those small soil born varieties  ::)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 29, 2009, 03:09:29 PM
Here is G Barnes flowering now. Sorry about the coffee stains but am trying coffee grains to keep away the slugs  ::)

Ian

A nice clean - well save for the coffee grounds - elwesii selection.  Have you tried organic slug pellets? They are reasonably effective and made by Safers (Woodstream)-  http://www.woodstreamcorp.com/canada/garden.asp#Slug%20&%20Snail%20Solutions (http://www.woodstreamcorp.com/canada/garden.asp#Slug%20&%20Snail%20Solutions)   Strange they show old packaging on their website as they are now in a plastic box with a flip lid.  Last I looked they contained iron phosphate but the formula may have changed with the new packaging. Still they are pet and bird safe.

About 90% of the snowdrops here have surfaced in their pots.  This is alarmingly early.  So far none outside have surfaced despite very mild temperatures.  We are promised ( ???) a good frost late next week.

In flower - Cambridge and almost out Alex Duguid, Fieldgate Prelude and Tilebarn Jamie.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 29, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Cambridge' (1&3) and Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Alex Duguid' (2) in flower here.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 29, 2009, 06:34:16 PM
John, CAMBRIDGE look very nice in frontlightning. But why you are so stingy? 37 KB are too few for a good  pic. Look to the background :D >:(
I don`t know the other. Where it does come from? Never heard the name.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: michael broadhurst on November 29, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
Hello Michael,
First glad that Eleni, Mette and Sofia are looking good and especially that the second flower on Sofia is looking better than the first.
Lyzzick is not a Galanthus reginae-olgae selection and more likely a plicatus nivalis cross. It was originally found near a hotel of the same name in Cumbria and is a very strong grower in the garden.
It will flower February/March.
This is an image of the flower.

Thanks for the info Melvyn.
I think you gave a number of reginae-olgae to Anglesey Abbey last season and I assume also Lyzzick as that was another new one in the collection. We were wondering what it was like. The fact that it's not a r.o. explains why it hasn't come up yet! Was it named because it flowers late as well as being a good grower? In the picture it looks nice but doesn't look particularly distinct from lots of other single marked hybrids. However, pictures don't always tell the whole story. How big are the flowers? Is it tall?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 29, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
John, CAMBRIDGE look very nice in frontlightning. But why you are so stingy? 37 KB are too few for a good  pic.

Hagen

The big version is on its way to you.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 29, 2009, 08:16:41 PM
I don`t know the other. Where it does come from? Never heard the name.

re: Alex Duguid

Maybe others can tell us something about it as I know nothing.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 29, 2009, 08:43:32 PM
Quote
Quote from: Hagen Engelmann on Today at 06:34:16 PM
I don`t know the other. Where it does come from? Never heard the name.


re: Alex Duguid...
Well, I can tell you nothing about the snowdrop that bears his name, but I can tell you a little about the late Alex Duguid. Last year I was singulalry unsuccessful in tracing a decent photo if the chap... so he will remain a mystery in that senses... unless a good phot turns up now....  :-\


Alex was the gardener to the Misses Edith and Molly Logan Home, who began Edrom Nursery in the Border country of Scotland and England. The ladies had a goodreputation as plantswomen but when Alex  took over and began to show at RHS events in London and so on, the name of the nursery became better known and lauded for its unusual plants. Alex handed over the nursery in due course to Jim Jermyn, and now it is in the capable hands of Cath and Terry. When Alex Duguid retired from Edrom he and his wife moved up to Aberdeenshire , where he continued to grow plants and have a great interest in the Scottish flora. He died some years ago, and I was lucky enough ( or stubborn enough) to buy a great many of his gardening books at auction in Aberdeen, including his entire bound set of AGS bulletins . 8)

Many plants have varieties named after  Alex Duguid.... Antennaria, Gentiana and so so. He was a great  grower and propagator whose showmanship skills were rewarded by his exhibition successes at the RHS.

Alex wrote for the SRGC Journal, here are some references:
DUGUID, A.: Calceolaria darwinii, 45/329

Raising Alpines from Seed, 39/137

The Cultivation of Hardy Primulas.. 16/227

Simple Propagation. 42/15

Propagation from Seed. 18/62

The Hills of Home, 38/70

The Season’s Ups and Downs, 26/71

Propagation by sphagnum, : 72/259

And on the Edrom website........

http://www.edromnurseries.co.uk/shop/pc/About-Us-d3.htm


Information about the snowdrop is given on page 132 of the Bishop, Davis and Grimshaw monograph.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 30, 2009, 12:38:33 AM
Maggi - Thanks for the Alec Duguid info.  It's always nice to know the face behind the name and such a distingushed plantsman of whom I knew nothing though I probably read his articles.

Now I have to ask should it be Alec or Alex as per the label that came with the bulb?

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 30, 2009, 07:59:20 AM
Thank You, Maggi. A lot of news for me too.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: snowdropman on November 30, 2009, 09:02:59 AM
re: Alex Duguid

Maybe others can tell us something about it as I know nothing.

John - the full name of this snowdrop is G. reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis 'Alex Duguid'. It was originally distributed under the name 'Mr Duguid's Christmas flowering snowdrop' which, at the time, was considered early for a vernalis - like yours, mine now consistently flower in November.

A very nice, upright, snowdrop and a welcome sight in the garden at this time of the year.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 30, 2009, 11:07:38 AM
Maggi - Thanks for the Alec Duguid info.  It's always nice to know the face behind the name and such a distingushed plantsman of whom I knew nothing though I probably read his articles.

Now I have to ask should it be Alec or Alex as per the label that came with the bulb?

johnw

 Sorry, John, my fault for using both... I have corrected that! It is AleX, but, as most Scots do, I tend to say Alec,  and so it came out as that by default!!

Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on November 30, 2009, 11:13:30 AM
Some time ago Brian Ellis was asking if there was a photo of Alex Duguid,; he was curious as to waht the chap looked like.....and now we have one to show you!
After the recent death of long-time SRGC Member, Stuart Mitchell, his nephew has given Mr Mitchell's collection of slides and photographs to the SRGC. In this collection is this photograph from an SRGC show.... from left to right.... C. McDermott, judge; Alex B. Duguid; Stuart Mitchell, exhibitor, holding his plant; Jack Drake.
click on the thumbnail photos to enlarge them.....

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 and here is Alex Duid.....
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Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 30, 2009, 11:59:20 AM
Maggi - Thanks for the Alec Duguid info.  It's always nice to know the face behind the name and such a distingushed plantsman of whom I knew nothing though I probably read his articles.

Now I have to ask should it be Alec or Alex as per the label that came with the bulb?

johnw

 Sorry, John, my fault for using both... I have corrected that! It is AleX, but, as most Scots do, I tend to say Alec,  and so it came out as that by default!!



I suppose we can forgive you, it is St. Andrew's Day afterall.  ;D

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 30, 2009, 12:02:40 PM
re: Alex Duguid
Maybe others can tell us something about it as I know nothing.

John - the full name of this snowdrop is G. reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis 'Alex Duguid'. It was originally distributed under the name 'Mr Duguid's Christmas flowering snowdrop' which, at the time, was considered early for a vernalis - like yours, mine now consistently flower in November.

A very nice, upright, snowdrop and a welcome sight in the garden at this time of the year.

Chris - Thanks. Always to the rescue!

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 30, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Among the last autumn flowering snowdrops are G. reginae-olgae and G. cilicicus- while they are fading more and more seeds are germinating.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on November 30, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
what percentage of everyones G.nivalis are showing their noses at present?

half of mine are showing, but the other half there is no sign, i wanted to know if its a similar story with other growers.

Rob 

Of all the potted drops here it's the G. nivalis ones that haven't surfaced yet. They have the good sense to stay below ground on Nov 30th, three weeks before winter even begins.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on November 30, 2009, 09:08:45 PM
Finally frost is here to hold back the snowdrop flowers
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 30, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
Maggi - Thanks for the Alec Duguid info.  It's always nice to know the face behind the name and such a distingushed plantsman of whom I knew nothing though I probably read his articles.

Now I have to ask should it be Alec or Alex as per the label that came with the bulb?

johnw

 Sorry, John, my fault for using both... I have corrected that! It is AleX, but, as most Scots do, I tend to say Alec,  and so it came out as that by default!!


.......or perhaps Eck, or Zander?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 30, 2009, 10:18:03 PM
Thanks for remembering about Alex Duguid Maggi, like John mine is now in flower so it is quite timely that his photo has turned up now ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on December 02, 2009, 03:58:46 PM
In between the shower, today's pics; (Maggie - if the Scilla pics need moving to another thread, go ahead).

Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on December 02, 2009, 04:09:11 PM
Hi, Steve.... I rather think the prescence of the Scilla pix do a service in proving that some galanthophiles can actually give growing space and attention to other plants too...... no bad thing, eh?!!  ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on December 02, 2009, 04:17:29 PM
Lovely Scilla Steve. Must go Google it  ::) :D
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on December 02, 2009, 07:35:56 PM
Thanks Mark. It's been a prayer mat job for three years but the flower spike is a fair reward.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on December 02, 2009, 10:01:52 PM
what's the spotty Oxalis? How tall is the Scilla? 2 feet?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: loes on December 02, 2009, 10:10:29 PM
I hope my first attempt to place a photo will succeed....
my reginae-olgae r-o are a bit late,I just planted them a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on December 02, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
 Your first attempt at posting a photo is a complete success, Loes!

We have G. r-o just coming into flower here in Aberdeen , too, though they have been planted for many months ..... Ian has pictured them in the latest Bulb Log
..   http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2009Dec021259762987BULB_LOG__48.pdf
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on December 02, 2009, 10:43:24 PM
what's the spotty Oxalis? How tall is the Scilla? 2 feet?
Mark
I just crept out to the alpine house with a torch. How sad is that? The Scilla is 15 inches tall from compost surface level. I gave one to Alan Street at Avon Bulbs but I don't know if his has flowered. The oxalis is Oxalis "Irish Mist". No kidding.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on December 02, 2009, 11:11:29 PM
Thanks Steve.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Alan_b on December 06, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
Did anyone contact Wisley? I can find no reference on the internet for the people who sold the bulbs to Wisley.

Mark, maybe you don't have to look any further than here

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4093.msg114922#msg114922

Andy Emery, posting on behalf of the RHS Wisley Plant Centre, says their supplier is "Cambridge Alpines".   
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: mark smyth on December 06, 2009, 01:28:10 PM
Alan thanks. I knew it was Cambridge Alpines who supplied it. They have no web site and no details on the internet. Paddy has written to Wisley
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on December 06, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Did he perhaps mean Cambridge Bulbs (Norman Stevens) ?
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: art600 on December 07, 2009, 09:28:31 AM
Did he perhaps mean Cambridge Bulbs (Norman Stevens) ?

David

No,  not Norman Stevens.  

Cambridge Alpines are a reputable supplier of plants to the trade, including Wisley.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Alan_b on December 07, 2009, 11:38:07 AM
According to several references on the internet (such as this one http://www.rhs.org.uk/RHSWebsite/files/18/18260fb1-32b2-4608-b3ad-7cd76efe313c.pdf ) their direct contact details are:

Cambridge Alpines, 20 Paget Place, Newmarket,
Suffolk CB8 7DR

On reference says: Telephone: 01954 251836
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on December 07, 2009, 12:39:50 PM
The Galanthus nivalis noses started poking up outdoors over the weekend.   We have just had our first cold night which should slow them down.  -3c and a skid of snow.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on December 08, 2009, 01:20:03 PM
galanthus transcaucasicus (autumn flowering) in flower,a gift from a member
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: johnw on December 08, 2009, 05:34:51 PM
Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' and Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Alex Duguid' in flower here.  A cold day today at +1c.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: steve owen on December 11, 2009, 07:56:33 PM
 ;DHappiness is seeing Flocon de Neige coming up and realising it hasn't been eaten by a rodent with a taste for caviar.
Title: Re: Galanthus Autumn 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on December 11, 2009, 08:56:36 PM
Steve, it is these little triumphs that keep us going, isn't it?  ;D
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