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Title: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 01, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
Septembre is here.  Woa, this went quickly.  Here are a few items greeting the rain today.

Colchicum agrippinum bivonae
Agapanthus 'Blue Moon'
Bougainvilla unknown hybrid

I am particularly proud of the Bougainvilla, as it is raised from a cutting from my brother-in-laws Winter house in Florida.  He has never managed to get a blossom! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: PaulM on September 01, 2009, 07:45:41 PM
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While we are on the subject of handsome thistles and their like.... can anyone tell me what the species of Onopordum (?) in this post (from Cliff in Turkey ) might be? 
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3653.msg107617#msg107617

(...particularly seen in pix 7 and 8 of Reply #38  of page 3 of the thread)

It is Onopordum boissieri. I posted some pics of it previously ( in July I think ), but it doesn't get quite the same nice purple color to its bracts  here, as it does in Turkey. I will be sending in seeds of it.

Onopordum bracteatum grows to around 2 meters.

I don't know where I got the Cirsium eriophorum seeds from Stephen, but I remember growing some from wild collected seeds which I got through the AGS some years ago, and they looked more like yours. I guess mine are garden collected originally. I'd be glad to send you some seeds if you'd like.

Overwintering Asclepias can be sometimes be difficult depending on where they come from, but A. tuberosa, speciosa, syriaca ( very aggressive ), purpurascens, exaltata, viridis are all hardy and don't need any special protection during the winter. A. tuberosa and A. viridis are better kept on the dry side.

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2009, 09:16:01 PM
Thanks for the name of the spikey purple fellow, Paul!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Oron Peri on September 01, 2009, 09:46:55 PM
Jamie
I think your Colchicum is C. bivonae, it is quite different from C. agrippinum.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2009, 10:06:20 PM
Jamie
I think your Colchicum is C. bivonae, it is quite different from C. agrippinum.

I agree  :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 02, 2009, 07:38:20 AM
Jamie
I think your Colchicum is C. bivonae, it is quite different from C. agrippinum.

Oron, Maggie,

is C. bivonae so strongly tesselated?  I had my doubts when it bloomed, as it was from the garden centre and the throat seemed a bit pale, but all the descriptions lead me to believe it must be C. agrippinum.  Well, I guess I'll have to look for the real thing.  I wanted this hybrid, as the city of Cologne is named after the wife of Agrippina.  Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2009, 10:29:36 AM
C. bivonae (syn. bowlesianum) is another of these confusingly variable plants.... do they do it deliberately, I ask myself  ;D??!!
Yes, the tessellations are correct.  I'll pm you about agrippinum, Jamie.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 02, 2009, 11:57:04 AM
It's been a while since I posted something here but I've been very busy with work.

So here are some plants that are flowering in my garden now.

1) Amaryllis belladonna
2) Colchicum x byzantinum
3) Crocus nudiflorus pulchellus (corrected thanks to Martin)
4) Echinacea purpurea 'Virgin'
5) Habenaria radiata (Thanks to Maggi  :-*)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2009, 12:05:56 PM
Good to see you are having more success with the Habenaria than I, Wim!  :'(
 
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 02, 2009, 01:42:10 PM
Maggi,

they are really small plants and of the three ordered, one died, one has grown but isn't flowering and one is flowering (I wonder if he will survive this). Actually I didn't expect any flowers this year.

Haven't they grown for you?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2009, 01:49:09 PM
Wim, 3 grew, one started to make a bud, then two died ! Third is hanging on.... just.... but the patient is expected to pass soon!  :'(
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Martin Baxendale on September 02, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
Wim, your Crocus nudiflorus isn't. Nudiflorus has yellow anthers. Your flower has white anthers. It looks like it may be pulchellus.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 02, 2009, 03:44:41 PM
Roadside weeds (Northants)  8)
They grow all along this road.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2009, 04:10:44 PM
Roadside weeds (Northants)  8)
They grow all along this road.

 WOW!!  :o :D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 02, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
It would be proof of good citizenship if you helped to get rid of these weeds Giles !  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 02, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
@ Maggi: I'm sorry to hear that. If mine keep on growing and if they multiply I'll keep you in mind

@ Martin: thanks for the correction. I bought it last year from a nursery which has been named a couple times on this forum for it's misnamed bulbs. Probably Crocus pulchellus indeed.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
That is very kind of you , Wim, but I'll be happy just to think that yours are growing well.... I can then enjoy the photos here!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 02, 2009, 09:08:08 PM
Wim - Can you tell me about the life cycle of your Amaryllis belladonna?

I just wonder what happens to the winter leaves during a cold snap. I presume they get killed and hence wonder how you manage to flower it so well. Nary a flower here.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 02, 2009, 09:32:12 PM
The Cyclamen are TRULY ivy-leaved in this place. ;D

(refers to Giles pix  in post # 12 on previous page)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 03, 2009, 08:09:22 AM
John,

After flowering my Amaryllis starts to get leaves which stay quite small untill March/April and then start to grow untill somewhere in July when the leaves disappear. The flower buds appear in August and normally flower by the end of August or at it's latest by the end of September.
They've never lost their winter leaves (that I can recall). Last year we had the hardest winter since a couple of years and I'm sure they kept their leaves which were only 10 to 15 cm during that time. They are planted against a south facing wall and protected from the wind.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 03, 2009, 08:57:52 AM
The Cyclamen are TRULY ivy-leaved in this place. ;D

(refers to Giles pix  in post # 12 on previous page)
You beat me to that witicism, Lesley! ;D
I don't know why they were ever called C. neapolitanum, as I've never seen a chocolate coloured one! ;)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johanneshoeller on September 03, 2009, 12:10:37 PM
Does anybody know the name of this interesting plant?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 03, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
Hans,

could it be Zephyranthes robustus?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: maggiepie on September 04, 2009, 04:02:08 PM
Ceratotheca triloba, these started flowering about a week ago.

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: akoen on September 04, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
They were very nice. Is it a perennial?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 04, 2009, 04:10:02 PM
Amazing, Helen, they are really lovely - are they perennial or grown from seed?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 04, 2009, 04:22:30 PM
Lovely, Helen..... I didn't know this plant... found this link....
http://theseedsite.co.uk/profile339.html

and this......http://apps.kew.org/efloras/namedetail.do?flora=fz&taxon=6474&nameid=16395
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 04, 2009, 04:31:18 PM
Two great links Maggi - could spend several hours lost in the seed world  :D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: maggiepie on September 04, 2009, 04:36:07 PM
Anne, they are annuals, I was hoping to get some seed but not sure there will be enough time before frost.

Robin, I grew these from seed, they are supposed to be very quick to grow, flower and set seed but these just sat there for awhile, no doubt due to the cool summer.

Thanks for the links Maggi.

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fleurbleue on September 04, 2009, 04:51:38 PM
My pink Cerathoteca has already set seeds ; if anyone wants some seeds, send me a pm ; Maggiepie I hope your white Cerathoteca will give you seeds, I have been searching for white Cerathoteca seeds for a long, long time without any succes  :'( and I should be very, very happy if I could receive someones  :D
Cheers

Nicole
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: maggiepie on September 04, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
Nicole, I am thinking of digging the white plant up and potting it.
Perhaps if can keep it alive longer it will have time to set seeds.
If I can get some I will be happy to send you some.

How long does it take from flowering to get viable seeds?
These plants have only just started to flower.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fleurbleue on September 04, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
  About 7 to 10 weeks for me here.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 04, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
Very nice plants, Helen.

I had never heard about it before.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 04, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
Very exotic-looking, Helen.

1, 2) Funny... I had this on my map as Phlomis russeliana for some reason, though it actually seems to be Salvia glutinosa.
3) Hemerocallis 'Cherry Cheeks'
4) Ratibida pinnata
5) Hemerocallis citrina - lovely scent.
6) Silene regia, starting to bloom
7) Hemerocallis 'Indian Love Call'
8 ) Silene schafta
9) Rosa 'Ambridge'
10) Nymphaea 'Marliacaea Albida'
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 04, 2009, 07:50:01 PM
Very exotic-looking, Helen.

1, 2) Funny... I had this on my map as Phlomis russeliana for some reason, though it actually seems to be Salvia glutinosa.
3) Hemerocallis 'Cherry Cheeks'
4) Ratibida pinnata
5) Hemerocallis citrina - lovely scent.
6) Silene regia, starting to bloom
7) Hemerocallis 'Indian Love Call'
8 ) Silene schafta
9) Rosa 'Ambridge'
10) Nymphaea 'Marliacaea Albida'

Lori, what lovely plants and colouring in your garden this September - hard to choose which I like the most but the Hemerocallis 'Indian Love Call' is really gorgeous and the name, well.....I'm interested to see you Silenes, too, as these have become firm favourites of mine this year.

Does your Rosa 'Ambridge' have a good scent? It looks so enticing!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 04, 2009, 07:52:08 PM
Oxalis lobata
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 04, 2009, 08:04:35 PM
Hemerocallis 'Indian Love Call' is really gorgeous and the name, well.....
Does your Rosa 'Ambridge' have a good scent? It looks so enticing!

Robin, I actually did debate whether to add some vague sort of apology for the name of that daylily, but, heck, it's just a plant, and I doubt any insult was intended to anyone, and I didn't name it anyway!  (There, I hope that covers all the bases.   ;D)
Yes, the scent of 'Ambridge Rose' is quite delicious!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Geebo on September 04, 2009, 09:44:20 PM
Hi All,
Just a few pics I got captured today,Weather a bit brighter here with good spells of sunshine

Guy.

 Crocosmia Seedling
 Crocus Kotschyanus ssp suworovianus
 Heloniopsis Tubiflora BSWJ 4173
 Rodohypoxis Baurii twinkle star
 Kirgengeshoma Palmata 2
 Tricyrtis White towers
 Zephyanthes Candida

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: PaulM on September 05, 2009, 06:21:47 PM
Yes, the Ceratotheca plants look astonishing. I grew some of this African plant last summer in a container, but they barely had time to flower before frost here, and of course never set any seed. I started mine indoors February 25, so without artificial lights I couldn't really start them earlier. The seeds germinated in three days at room temperature.
I like the violet one the best.

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: PaulM on September 05, 2009, 06:24:19 PM
I love the red in Silene regia Lori ! I find it difficult to grow here. How do you accomodate it in your garden ?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 05, 2009, 06:40:52 PM
Paul, Silene regia just takes care of itself out on a dry, full-sun slope in unimproved alkaline clay soil; it is very drought-tolerant.  After a few years from seed, the plants are finally starting to bulk up a little, though each still only has 2-3 stems.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: PaulM on September 05, 2009, 07:10:19 PM
I will try to find a better place for it next year. Is that an Echinops you have next to it, or some other thistle ?

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 05, 2009, 07:28:24 PM
Yes, what sharp eyes you have!   :)  Next to it is Echinops tschimganicus... or so the seed was said to be - a white-flowered echinops.  There is a picture of the flowers here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3968.135 ( reply 145)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Arykana on September 07, 2009, 06:39:59 AM
we would have long fall, because the Caryopteris blooming late
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_3827.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lampwick on September 07, 2009, 10:59:50 AM
Photo taken this morning.

Gentiana 'Shot Silk' - bought from Aberconway Nurseries about 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ranunculus on September 07, 2009, 12:12:55 PM
That lovely gentian would grace the show bench at the conference, John ... trouble is you can't hold them back.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: PaulM on September 08, 2009, 06:29:55 PM
Here are some pictures of plants flowering for me now.

1) Hypericum bupleuroides from Caucasus
2) Hypericum bupleuroides close up
3) Monarda pectinata
4) Monarda pectinata close up
5) Salvia curviflora
6) Salvia curviflora close up
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on September 08, 2009, 07:03:55 PM
You have some lovely stuff John and lovely pictures too.

After edit:-

I really meant Paul but I'm sure all the "Johns" out there have lovely stuff too ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 08, 2009, 09:17:56 PM
Paul,
Lovely Hypericum - allmost like fireworks!

Here is some autumn flowers from my garden.

Poul
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: akoen on September 08, 2009, 10:50:26 PM
Here is some pictures from Norway.


Aster sp.
Helianthus
Aconitum seoulense
Clematis sp.
Geranium wallichianum
Geranium lambertii
Kniphofia sp
Sedum and Sempervivum
Hemerocallis sp.
Impatiens arguta


Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 09, 2009, 08:09:29 AM
Very lovely gardens!  There is still lots of bloom in some your areas, it seems.  There's been no rain here since mid-August, so it's getting very dry.
1) Clematis 'Blue Boy' winding through a nannyberry, Viburnum lentago.
2) Solidago 'Goldkind' with Telekia speciosa.
3) Veronica spicata 'Blauteppich'
4) Agastache pringlei from the mountains of New Mexico and Mexico
5) Our native Agastache foeniculum
6) Another native, Liatris punctata.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fleurbleue on September 09, 2009, 08:21:51 AM
Nice pictures Lori and akoen, I love perennials  :D it's my passion  ;)
kinds regards
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Hristo on September 09, 2009, 09:32:49 AM
Great to see so many attractive plants flowering, bravo!
All burned out here,the autumn rains have come, so soon the colchicums and crocus will be flowering!
Prospering ( to my surprise ) in a deep humic soil in the shade of a plum tree is
Tricyrtis hototogisu
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 09, 2009, 08:19:25 PM
Here is a selection of flowers (fruits) found within the last days

1. Acidanthera bicolor
2. Alstroemeria aurea - originally from Volcan Llaima, Chile
3. Arum italicaum
4. + 5. Crocosmia aurea
6. Merendera montana (if identified correctly)

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on September 09, 2009, 08:27:40 PM
Gerd, a lovely selection. Your Acidanthera bicolor is now Gladiolus murielae I have it too but the leaf growth this year doesn't look as strong as in previous years. Maybe it suffered in in our bad winter.

Interesting that you grow Crocosmia in pots. Is it just that one or do you grow them all that way?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 09, 2009, 08:39:53 PM
Thanks for compliments and correction, David.
I grow Crocosmia aurea in pots because I was told it is a tender species - but never tried to test this.
I wish you a great holiday in Spain - now I'am a little bit envious!

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 09, 2009, 09:15:25 PM
Crocosmias are grown in pots also because in milder climates they can be rampant!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 09, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
Crocosmias are grown in pots also because in milder climates they can be rampant!

I hear they are rampant on the east coast of Newfoundland too. This one seems to be fine here. Might be worth trying some in the ground with caution Gerd.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Darren on September 11, 2009, 09:34:49 AM
This is an australian orchid hybrid - Pterostylis pulchella x abrupta. Probably now a Diplodium.

Then polygonum vaccinifolium just approaching it's best:

The lovely annual Ipomoea caerulea:

Stokesia laevis:
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Hristo on September 11, 2009, 06:31:13 PM
Very nice 'Diplodium' Darren, more graceful than it's parents perhaps?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: KentGardener on September 13, 2009, 02:30:51 PM
All my jungle plants are now slowly going to sleep.   :'( 

But some of my bulbs are waking up.   ;D

Here is one that is making me stop and look at the moment.

Colchicum Joachem Hof

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 13, 2009, 06:40:18 PM
The following pics were made yesterday in Erich Pasches garden. I prefer to show them alltogether here without separating them to Crocus, Cyclamen etc.

1. Callirhoe involucrata
2. Begonia sutherlandii
3. + 4. Cyclamen colchicum
5. + 6. Cyclamen hederifolium cultivated in an interesting manner
7. Cyclamen cilicicum

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 13, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
Continued

1. Crocus vallicola
2. - 4. Colchicum speciosum
5. Sternbergia lutea
6. Sternbergia greuteriana

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 14, 2009, 06:40:48 AM
The following pics were made yesterday in Erich Pasches garden.
5. + 6. Cyclamen hederifolium cultivated in an interesting manner
Gerd
Gerd,
what a fun way of planting cyclamen :D
Do you know if they were planted as seedlings in the pot or just as flowering size tubers? Is there a risk that the growing tubers will split the pot? ???
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 14, 2009, 06:45:07 PM
The following pics were made yesterday in Erich Pasches garden. I prefer to show them alltogether here without separating them to Crocus, Cyclamen etc.

1. Callirhoe involucrata
2. Begonia sutherlandii
3. + 4. Cyclamen colchicum
5. + 6. Cyclamen hederifolium cultivated in an interesting manner
7. Cyclamen cilicicum

Gerd


a lovely garden--i especially like the cyclamen coming up through the tiny groundcover leaves and the begonia!
i really cant understand why, when there are such lovely species, people want to grow those monstrous hybrid begonais  ;)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 14, 2009, 09:23:09 PM
Fermi,
I am sure, the Cyclamen were planted as tubers and within the next 5 years there is little risk that they will destroy the pot - maybe in the distant future.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to ask Erich Pasche himself because he left for Turkey yesterday.

a lovely garden--i especially like the cyclamen coming up through the tiny groundcover leaves and the begonia!
i really cant understand why, when there are such lovely species, people want to grow those monstrous hybrid begonais  ;)

Cohan,
That's exactly my point of view and I guess we are not alone here.

Gerd


 
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 15, 2009, 03:58:21 AM
1, 2) Epilobium canum ssp. garrettii (was Zauschneria garrettii)
3) First flower on Lilium henryi
4) Another shot of Nymphaea 'Albert Greenberg', tropical daybloomer
5) Artemisia versicolor 'Sea Foam', looking to me very much like my favorite lichen.
6, 7) Scilla scilloides has chosen to bloom this year... a rare event.
8 ) Nymphaea 'Crystal', tropical daybloomer.
9) Another Silene regia to round out the late bloomers... not many left to go.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 15, 2009, 08:03:23 AM
1, 2) Epilobium canum ssp. garrettii (was Zauschneria garrettii)
3) First flower on Lilium henryi
4) Another shot of Nymphaea 'Albert Greenberg', tropical daybloomer
5) Artemisia versicolor 'Sea Foam', looking to me very much like my favorite lichen.
6, 7) Scilla scilloides has chosen to bloom this year... a rare event.
8 ) Nymphaea 'Crystal', tropical daybloomer.
9) Another Silene regia to round out the late bloomers... not many left to go.

very nice fall show... yellow is slowly creeping into the landscape here, feel like we are on borrowed time! though i have to say, i like the changing of the colour of grasses and crops--green is lovely, but i get tired of it ;)
very pleased to see the epilobium doing well for you, since i was interested in it, and saw a marginal hardiness rating somewhere (beavercrrek?); the scilla is gorgeous, and really nice close-up...
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 15, 2009, 08:50:42 AM
Tropical water lilies - I adore them!
 8)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ranunculus on September 15, 2009, 09:03:33 AM
Lori, the image of Nymphaea 'Albert Greenberg' is exquisite!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 15, 2009, 09:58:53 AM
Still so many wonderful flowering plants from your garden, Lori, it really is a treasure trove of delights - can't bear the thought of it all ending  :'(  but then I am sure you will surprise us with winter flowering beauties  :D

Love the Nymphaea 'Crystal' and Silene regia
Quote
to round out the late bloomers... not many left to go
.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on September 15, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
my 'Mini - Moor' today

regards   Wolfgang
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 15, 2009, 12:54:26 PM
Wow! Happy Sarracenias!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 15, 2009, 06:16:18 PM
my 'Mini - Moor' today

regards   Wolfgang

wow--great garden--thanks for the overview!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 15, 2009, 06:23:23 PM
Wolfgang,

The garden looks wonderful, great planting, well-laid out etc.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 15, 2009, 06:26:46 PM
Wolfgang,

The garden looks wonderful, great plant, well-laid out etc.

Paddy

I agree with Paddy, Wolfgang, your garden landscaping is lovely and full of wonderful plants you and your wife grow - I love visiting on the Forum  :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on September 15, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
thank you all for the interesting in my garden

Wolfgang
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 15, 2009, 10:02:02 PM
Lori, how are you managing to grow tropical waterlilies in Alberta? 8)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 16, 2009, 05:40:26 AM
Thanks for your comments, all. 
Cohan, I managed to take a goodly amount of time off this summer, so I feel I really experienced and enjoyed it, and so am much more content going into fall this year than usual.   :)

Lori, how are you managing to grow tropical waterlilies in Alberta? 8)
Only realistically possible in a greenhouse (confirming your suspicions, I'm sure)!!   ;D  Stuart will soon be making the final decision on whether he considers the new tropicals truly worth the trouble of keeping through the winter under lights.  (I regret to admit that we treat some of them as annuals, for that reason.)

I am sure you will surprise us with winter flowering beauties  :D
How I wish that was true, Robin, but I'm afraid it will soon be only "frost flowers", at best.   :o

Wolfgang, your garden is wonderful!  It's great to see pitcher plants, and so well grown.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 16, 2009, 06:52:21 AM
Thanks for your comments, all. 
Cohan, I managed to take a goodly amount of time off this summer, so I feel I really experienced and enjoyed it, and so am much more content going into fall this year than usual.   :)

that's good to hear-- i have had my days of climate gloom, and its pointless and no fun...lol --not that i never wish i lived -oh say on a frost free mid-altitude slope in the sub-tropics--but since that's not imminent, when i moved back to alberta, it wasn't for the length of the growing season, and i determined not to fuss whatever the weather does...
mostly successful in that aim...lol
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: olegKon on September 16, 2009, 09:53:53 AM
Back to the forum again after a long and wonderful holiday in Britain and tidying up the garden. Nice to find you all here. Something flowering at the moment
1. Harvest time
2.Gladiolus dalenii
3.A Euonimus sp.?
4.Anemonopsis macrophilla
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on September 16, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
Flowering here now, bought as Sedum orbiculatum and originally from Crug, this was brought over bare rooted and despite being forgotten in a paperbag over winter settled back down when planted the following spring.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fleurbleue on September 16, 2009, 08:46:01 PM
A nice Sedum I didn't know !
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 16, 2009, 11:32:58 PM
Flowering here now, bought as Sedum orbiculatum and originally from Crug, this was brought over bare rooted and despite being forgotten in a paperbag over winter settled back down when planted the following spring.
nice one! is this in the Hylotelephium sub-genus? is it deciduous?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Hristo on September 17, 2009, 10:08:02 AM
Flowering now on a windowsill, Triglochin bulbosa in Juncaginaceae.
Most entries for this species relate to its status as a weed!
Sort of plant only its mother would love I guess!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on September 17, 2009, 10:46:28 AM
Thanks, Fleur.
Cohan, as I recall it came from limestone cliffs in China and it dies back to resting buds in winter.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 18, 2009, 08:09:42 AM
Flowering now on a windowsill, Triglochin bulbosa in Juncaginaceae.
Most entries for this species relate to its status as a weed!
Sort of plant only its mother would love I guess!


interesting windowsill plant! i knew those flowers looked familiar, and juncaginaceae sounded about right--we have a species--not positive of which, but maybe T maritima---'seaside arrow grass' ironically here, several days and several mountain ranges from the ocean! ours is quite tall, book says 10-100cm, though i think those i have seen are probably in the range of 60cm...i really like it, though its supposed to be terribly poisonous (cattle would be the ones at risk)-releasing cyanide gas when eaten....

how large is yours, does the bulb show? nice leaves? i've photographed ours a few times, but very hard to get good shots of tall skinny plants like that!


simon--tks, that sounds about what i'd have thought :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Alberto on September 18, 2009, 03:55:55 PM
Here is my first time flowering of Scilla maderensis, thanks to the offer of a friend. One flower looks to be pollinated (?) by a tiger mosquito, or blood flow in that species? maybe blue blood!  :)

Alberto
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Hans J on September 18, 2009, 04:26:20 PM
 :o Alberto  :o

blue wax ???
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 18, 2009, 05:58:02 PM
Here is my first time flowering of Scilla maderensis, thanks to the offer of a friend. One flower looks to be pollinated (?) by a tiger mosquito, or blood flow in that species? maybe blue blood!  :)
Alberto


nice subtle colours! i have seen mosquitoes on flowers, but usually thought they were following me when i went for a close-up! i have a  photo of one on a Calypso..
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 18, 2009, 09:10:10 PM
Here is Bessera elegans - better late than never. A gift from a nice Dutch forum member. 

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 18, 2009, 09:27:56 PM
Gerd,
what a wonderful little flower.  I guess I'll have to put this one on my list, too.  Is it winter hardy for you?  Or does it need protection?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 18, 2009, 09:36:20 PM
Alberto, nice Scilla!

This afternoon I was in Botanical Garden of Aarhus, Denmark for a short visit.

Poul
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 18, 2009, 09:39:31 PM
And a few more

Poul
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 18, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
my 'Mini - Moor' today

regards   Wolfgang

Lovely moor you have!

I have some carnivorous plants too. I use them for 'biological warfare' in my greenhouse.
I have lots of seeds from Dionea muscipula if someone is interested.

Poul
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 19, 2009, 05:55:22 AM
This afternoon I was in Botanical Garden of Aarhus, Denmark for a short visit.
Poul

nice to see this place again, that bessera is a winner!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 19, 2009, 07:10:23 AM
Gerd,
what a wonderful little flower.  I guess I'll have to put this one on my list, too.  Is it winter hardy for you?  Or does it need protection?

Jamie,
Until I saw Pouls pics of the same species from Aarhus I was pretty sure that it needs the same treatment like tender Gladiolus species - i.e. dry and frostprotected in winter. So I'll ask how Bletilla is handled there.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 19, 2009, 07:12:44 AM
This afternoon I was in Botanical Garden of Aarhus, Denmark for a short visit.
Poul

nice to see this place again, that bessera is a winner!

Poul,
Are the Bessera planted outside without protection in winter?

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 19, 2009, 07:45:30 AM
This afternoon I was in Botanical Garden of Aarhus, Denmark for a short visit.
Poul

nice to see this place again, that bessera is a winner!

Poul,
Are the Bessera planted outside without protection in winter?

Gerd

Yes, they are planted outside. I can't remember if I have seen this plant site in the winter. Some plants in the botanical garden are protected by branches of fir during the winter, and I will guess that this is one off them.
They are planted on a south facing slope in a very sandy soil.

Poul
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 19, 2009, 07:55:42 AM
Gerd,

the Flora in Köln has a large bed of Bletilla in the rockery which has survived and prospered for well over 20 years.  I've never seen Bessera there, but, if they are similarly hardy, it would be worth a try.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 19, 2009, 08:17:44 AM
interesting windowsill plant! i knew those flowers looked familiar, and juncaginaceae sounded about right--we have a species--not positive of which, but maybe T maritima---'seaside arrow grass' ironically here, several days and several mountain ranges from the ocean! ours is quite tall, book says 10-100cm, though i think those i have seen are probably in the range of 60cm...i really like it, though its supposed to be terribly poisonous (cattle would be the ones at risk)-releasing cyanide gas when eaten....

how large is yours, does the bulb show? nice leaves? i've photographed ours a few times, but very hard to get good shots of tall skinny plants like that!

We have two species in this area, Triglochin palustris (Marsh Arrow Grass) which grows in boggy areas and T. maritima (Sea Arrow Grass) which is mostly a shoreline plant (although also found inland). The first two pictures below show T. maritima which is a much bigger plant (although this could be due to its well fertilized environment on the seashore). I learnt that T. maritima was edible from a local forager here many years ago. He regularly made/makes a tasty springtime soup from it and is still going strong. I cultivate it in my garden but only use small amounts to be on the safe side.  However, I’ve read that the toxicity is higher when the plants are stressed by the weather and the white bases are apparently safe. I’ve since also learnt that Sea Arrow Grass is one of the halophytic (salt-tolerant) plants which has been studied as a candidate for saline agriculture (food production on the increasingly extensive areas of land which have become too saline to grow conventional crops or for cultivation in dry coastal areas with sea water irrigation). One that is already cultivated as a food plant in the Netherlands and Morocco, which often grows together with Triglochin, can also be seen in the centre of the second picture, Aster tripolium, Sea Aster.  Sea Aster can actually now be purchased as a gourmet vegetable in one of the biggest supermarket chains in the Netherlands!   I guess the potential toxicity of Triglochin has not favouritised it so far, but this could perhaps be dealt with through breeding (I was in contact with a German professor working on halophytic plants and he rated it highly).

I don’t know T. bulbosa, but maybe it’s related to the Australasian species T. procera, Water Ribbons, shown in the bottom picture (from Kew Gardens) which has an edible tuber. This plant was probably an important staple aboriginal food throughout Australia. The tubers are reported to have very high levels of vitamin C, but were difficult to harvest, to be found 30 cm down in the oozing mud, presumably harvested by toe rather than hand…
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Thomas Huber on September 19, 2009, 09:14:15 AM
Poul, what a wonderful rockery in Aarhus!
I'm not a Cyclamen specialist, but the C. libanoticum
photo looks more like C. hederifolium!?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 19, 2009, 05:59:26 PM
Thomas, you might be right. I just named it after the label! Another place in the garden there was a group labeled hederifolium with much larger flowers. I have only one cyclamen in my garden, so I am no expert too.

Poul
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 19, 2009, 06:40:43 PM
Poul and Jamie,
Thank you both. Because I'm not able to cultivate Bessera in a pot successfully it will not be a mistake to plant some bulbs outside - will try it.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 19, 2009, 08:04:12 PM
Poul and Jamie,
Thank you both. Because I'm not able to cultivate Bessera in a pot successfully it will not be a mistake to plant some bulbs outside - will try it.

Gerd

Gerd - Be warned the slugs will come for kilometers for the Bessera leaves. Last year I had mine in a pot and set it on a trough that was on a pedestal.  They climbed to the top and almost completely defoliated the Besseras on several occasions.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 19, 2009, 09:49:45 PM
We have two species in this area, Triglochin palustris (Marsh Arrow Grass) which grows in boggy areas and T. maritima (Sea Arrow Grass) which is mostly a shoreline plant (although also found inland). The first two pictures below show T. maritima which is a much bigger plant (although this could be due to its well fertilized environment on the seashore). I learnt that T. maritima was edible from a local forager here many years ago. He regularly made/makes a tasty springtime soup from it and is still going strong. I cultivate it in my garden but only use small amounts to be on the safe side.  However, I’ve read that the toxicity is higher when the plants are stressed by the weather and the white bases are apparently safe. I’ve since also learnt that Sea Arrow Grass is one of the halophytic (salt-tolerant) plants which has been studied as a candidate for saline agriculture (food production on the increasingly extensive areas of land which have become too saline to grow conventional crops or for cultivation in dry coastal areas with sea water irrigation). One that is already cultivated as a food plant in the Netherlands and Morocco, which often grows together with Triglochin, can also be seen in the centre of the second picture, Aster tripolium, Sea Aster.  Sea Aster can actually now be purchased as a gourmet vegetable in one of the biggest supermarket chains in the Netherlands!   I guess the potential toxicity of Triglochin has not favouritised it so far, but this could perhaps be dealt with through breeding (I was in contact with a German professor working on halophytic plants and he rated it highly).

I don’t know T. bulbosa, but maybe it’s related to the Australasian species T. procera, Water Ribbons, shown in the bottom picture (from Kew Gardens) which has an edible tuber. This plant was probably an important staple aboriginal food throughout Australia. The tubers are reported to have very high levels of vitamin C, but were difficult to harvest, to be found 30 cm down in the oozing mud, presumably harvested by toe rather than hand…

we should/could have both species here as well, but i think the ones i have seen are T maritima; here are a  few shots--mostly from last year, this year i didn't see as many in flower, perhaps because it was drier (the fat, bent inflorescence is from this year)
... my book says they grow in alkaline areas and marshes here; i don't know if the spots i have seen them are particularly alkaline--regular wet areas here with willows, grasses, Pedicularis and other typical marsh species...
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: galahad on September 19, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
My tulips ar stunning this year - Queen of Sheba and Ballade
This Sparaxis is just gorgeous this year but taking over the trough.  Have to move it to the open garden this year.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 20, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
we should/could have both species here as well, but i think the ones i have seen are T maritima; here are a  few shots--mostly from last year, this year i didn't see as many in flower, perhaps because it was drier (the fat, bent inflorescence is from this year)
... my book says they grow in alkaline areas and marshes here; i don't know if the spots i have seen them are particularly alkaline--regular wet areas here with willows, grasses, Pedicularis and other typical marsh species...

Yes, yours looks like maritima - the fruit is egg-shaped unlike palustris. Inland here they are found in rich usually alkaline bogs.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ashley on September 20, 2009, 10:29:42 AM
Thomas, you might be right.

Agreed Thomas; this is hederifolium
C. libanoticum normally flowers in spring and looks rather different.  It overwinters well here in the garden but unfortunately voles and slugs like it as much as I do :P

Thanks for bringing us to Aarhus BG Poul.  It looks like a very interesting place.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 09:53:42 AM
Hi all!

It's been a while, but i have some great novelties! I didn't had much time to do some postings here, so I'll blend all pictures from the last 3 months in just one.

Firstly, the Musschia aurea in full bloom 2 months ago

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 09:54:21 AM
Another pic of the same plant
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 09:55:38 AM
This one is Erica maderensis, also taken 2 months ago.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:14:02 AM
Luc, do you remember the Platycodon that you made a comment last year? Well, I did the refrigeration trick again, and it worked. This year it's a lot bigger and bloomed profusely!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:21:10 AM
Well, these 2 were sent from Australia, exactly 2 years ago as a birthday gift from Fermi (Many thanks!!!). I raised the seeds and this year they bloomed so well (and keep on going) It seems that each time I water the plants they send out a new flower spike. Even though the blooms dont last, they constantly send out more! You were right Fermi, rain lilies are fast growers from seed, and it is such a satisfaction to see something blooming for the very first time when you think you raised it from seedling!

BTW i lost the tags, can anybody help me with the Id's?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:21:36 AM
Another pink one
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:27:22 AM
Now this Lilium (Lilium davidii/ L. tigrinum, or maybe a hybrid?)was raised from tiny purplish bulbils. It flowered the first time this year (i got 4 spikes). Oddly enough, it doesnt need any special cold treatment :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:33:40 AM
These came from Germany (Many thanks Hans!) and are the tiniest Amaryllid that I'm currently growing, Zephyranthes minima. Utterly charming, but unfortunately not everybody thinks the same. My mother for instance, thinks that some weeds can be much more ornamental, but they're all plants in the end...
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:51:15 AM
This one is called Dracula nycterina, its not the most beautiful flowers around, but sure its interesting!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 22, 2009, 10:52:59 AM
Luc, do you remember the Platycodon that you made a comment last year? Well, I did the refrigeration trick again, and it worked. This year it's a lot bigger and bloomed profusely!

Great to see things worked out fine Michael !!  :D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 10:58:18 AM
A few more orchids. Of all plants ihave known and smelt, Stanhopea oculata is the one that has the most striking perfume ever. I cant describe it, but it's my favourite fragrance.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 11:01:04 AM
A few more Stanhopea and Gongora.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 11:03:58 AM
Now from wonderfully scented to foul smelling, this one's "perfume" is like rotting meat. But the plant is still worth growing!!!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 11:07:45 AM
This one isn't better smelling than the last one, in fact i was holding my breath while taking the picture, as the stench is unbearable!!! The perfect gift for Valentine's!! Well, looking on the bright side, its an heart-shaped flower, thus more romantic! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 11:15:42 AM
Three more climbers. The first one is the Costa-Rican Dalechampia dioscoreifolia, aka Butterfly wings. Second one is an African Ceropegia. The third picture is a splendid Bouganvillea and was taken in Town at night.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2009, 11:18:35 AM
Lastly, a picture of Passiflora trifasciata, Euchile citrina, Heliconia bihai and a leaf of an aroid that seems anvil-hammered in copper, Alocasia cuprea.

Have a great day
Michael
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 22, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
some quite astonishing plants you show us, Michael.    Good of you to celebrate your birthday by sharing these with us!
 Many thanks.... and a VERY happy birthday to you!  8) :-*
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 22, 2009, 12:53:31 PM
Happy birthday Michael !
Thanks for the pix !!  8)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Thomas Huber on September 22, 2009, 12:55:48 PM
Happy Birthday, Mike. A great series of photos you made.
Any sign of flowers from my Cyclamen seeds?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 22, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Great series of photos Michael, thanks for posting and a Happy Birthday ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 22, 2009, 06:47:24 PM
happy birthday, michael, and thanks for sharing the wonders :)
you show some of my favourite things--species orchids and vines, though i dont really have the conditions (commitment!) for either right now..
ceropegia and stapelia are favourites, also like the 'rain lilies' and i agree the zephyranthes is very charming!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 22, 2009, 10:10:16 PM
Very nice plants, Mike and a happy birthday from me too.

Wim
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 23, 2009, 12:00:51 AM
Just a few common things giving us an early autumn show.

Clematis flammula - wonderful fragrance and keeps flowering into November, sometimes beyond.

Dianella - we've had the best berry set ever this year.

Allium thunbergii - another late one about to open, flowers until very hard frost.

Liriope platyphyllus - 3 shots, the colour is wrong in the first two shots. See what happened when I removed the weed in shot 2. The camera would then not focus on the flower stem but it got the colour right.  

Ophiopogon berries.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 23, 2009, 08:04:22 AM
Hi Michael (belated birthday wishes!)
the first of your rain-lilies is Habranthus tubispathus.

Hi John,
we're missing your allium pic!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 23, 2009, 08:25:21 AM
Wonderful orchids, Michael,
I've always been fascinated by Gongora, Stanhopea and company, as well as the Cycnoches and Catasetums.  Without a greenhouse, I can no longer keep them.  The scent on Stanhopea is truly exotic, I agree.  Somewhat astringent at times, but complex and fresh.

And a belated Happy B-day.

Jamie

PS: the Clivia are doing very well.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: olegKon on September 23, 2009, 10:01:34 AM
Marvelous plants, Michael!
Not that exotic but still brightening autum days here is Anemone hupehensis
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 23, 2009, 10:57:18 AM
Hi all!

Thanks for the B-day compliments.

Thomas, for now all the Cyclamen are dormant, they are under the leaf litter and still have not started sprouting as the weather is still warm. I don't know if they will flower this year, but with blooms or without them, the leaves themselves are more than enough to keep me satisfied! :)

Cohan, if one day you finally get the time, let me know and i can send you a few cuttings of stapeliads and Ceropegia, i have a few species of each.

Jamie, your clivia seedlings are doing fine too, a bit slow growing for now, but they will surely speed up as more leaves are produced.

Olegkon, for me, any anemone is exotic ;)

And Luc, can you recognize the following plant?  ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 23, 2009, 10:59:44 AM
Here are a few more pics taken today: Amaryllis belladona and this year´s Victoria amazonia display.

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 23, 2009, 12:05:22 PM
Hi John,
we're missing your allium pic!
cheers
fermi

Now added.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 23, 2009, 01:24:01 PM
I spotted this in someone's front garden.
The owner thought it was Sorbus sargentiana.
12 ft tall at most, and very eyecatching.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 23, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
Now is that not a perfect tree for a small garden? All the Sorbus are attractive in my view, but S. sargentiana is a cracker indeed.  Variable in colour, I like this rich reddy orange.... but look at that handsome foliage.... and just think how it will look in a liitle while when it takes on the autumn fire colour for which the species is famous! Fab!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Miriam on September 23, 2009, 04:14:52 PM
Wonderful plants and photos Michael! and Happy Birthday!!
I have a Stapelia gigantea bud about to open for the first time for me, I hope I could cope with the smell  :P ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 23, 2009, 04:17:33 PM

And Luc, can you recognize the following plant?  ;D

Looking good and healthy Michael - thanks for showing it - I expect the next picture when it first flowers...  ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Hans J on September 23, 2009, 05:49:03 PM
Here are some flowers from my garden today :

Canna X ( sorry but I dont know a name )
Salvia guaranitica ( I'm not shure with this name ....maybe anybody know the true name )
Salvia discolor

Enjoy
Hans
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 23, 2009, 06:58:52 PM
Here are a few more pics taken today: Amaryllis belladona and this year´s Victoria amazonia display.



Michael, belated best wishes for your birthday. Your postings are really interesting and amazing - the orchids remind me of the Botanical Orchid house we visited once in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia - it was mind blowing in beauty orchids draped everywhere and we were the only visitors!  Have you thought of posting some of your exotica in the Images of and Arty Kind thread?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: maggiepie on September 23, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
Wow, Michael, I can't believe how big those leaves are. :o
I love the under leaf texture.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Onion on September 23, 2009, 09:06:36 PM
I spotted this in someone's front garden.
The owner thought it was Sorbus sargentiana.
12 ft tall at most, and very eyecatching.

Giles,

this is Sorbus sargentiana!! This species had big sticky buds in winter and a wonderful autumn colour.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 23, 2009, 09:18:15 PM
Maggi/Uli,
I'm glad you like it.
It is very striking, and I've been driving past it for past couple of weeks, but only today plucked up the courage to knock on their door.
I'll try and photograph some more of the local Sorbus's as there are some nice ones with other coloured berries (white/cream/pink/yellow).
It seems to be a good year for them here.
Giles
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 10:30:28 PM
Thrilled to see the fruit on Sorbus sargentiana. Mine hasn't flowered yet though it is
about 8 ft high. The large leaves are superb and the autumn colour outstanding.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 10:51:21 PM
Quote
Hi Lesley,
Simply go into 'Modify' and 'Additional Options' and then uncheck either of your images.



Thanks Cliff. Sorted now. I did go to modify in the first place but not as far as AO and so didn't see the uncheck bit. Mind you, two lots of Sorbus leaves are better than one. :) Having despaired of the huge increase on the running form of Sorbus reducta, but not wanting to dispose of it, I've now sorted a place where I can plant it to be groundcover. It should look good in the autumn.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 24, 2009, 06:14:50 AM
thanks, michael--i may take you up on that- in the spring, maybe--- i'm probably reaching the end of my safe season for receiving tender plants--we've been over 30C for a few days, abnormally, but its due to drop very soon!

miriam--i havent grown S gigantea, but used to have S hirsuta indoors, and i found the smell not too strong, but it would be stronger if the plant had just been watered, and if it was in the sun...

giles--nice sorbus! i have a common one in the yard, which my mother planted years ago, not too tall either, though i think it can get taller--it had a lot of pruning by moose and deer early on, so it has taken time to take off.. i agree with maggi that  small trees are nice--i have lots of space, but would rather replace some of the big trees with smaller ones, for more light!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 24, 2009, 12:10:10 PM
Nothing really spectacular flowering here now but some plants that bring autumn colour:

1) Allium sp.
2) Pyracantha coccinea
3) Sedum telephium
4) Zephyranthes minima

and not really a garden flower but also nice:

5) Phalaenopsis cornu-cervi
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 24, 2009, 07:10:46 PM
Some more local Sorbus.
Most still had their labels  :D
Sorbus 'Joseph Rock'
Sorbus cashmiriana
Sorbus hupehensis
Sorbus aucuparia (funny that the common one, is the worst)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 24, 2009, 07:12:47 PM
Sorbus 'Sheerwater Seedling'
Sorbus (unlabelled)
Sorbus (unlabelled: one of the Whitebeams?)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 24, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
..seems the berries are good in Belgium too !
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 24, 2009, 07:23:36 PM
Interesting Sorbus species. Do any of you ever heard of Sorbus maderensis?
I will try to spot one and take pictures, its a very rare highland shrub from here that is in critical danger of extinction. I cant grow it cause my climate is too hot (lowland), but i would guess any of you could give it a go. If i get hold of some marterial i'll let you know!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Oron Peri on September 24, 2009, 07:29:19 PM
flowering today, the first Rhodophiala bifidaand some Nerine filifolia.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 24, 2009, 07:30:21 PM
Quote
seems the berries are good in Belgium too !
Yes, it may have been possible to squeeze a few more on that terrific Pyracantha, but only a very few!
A grand display and I like the other colours of Pyracantha, too, but  have a really soft spot for Sorbus..... which is just as well since Ian will keep growing them from seed and planting them out in the garden when my back is turned.  :P

Sorbus maderensis is a seriously endangered Madeiran endemic, is it not? Habitat loss if the problem, I assume. I don't think I've ever seen one.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Onion on September 24, 2009, 07:33:01 PM
Interesting Sorbus species. Do any of you ever heard of Sorbus maderensis?
I will try to spot one and take pictures, its a very rare highland shrub from here that is in critical danger of extinction. I cant grow it cause my climate is too hot (lowland), but i would guess any of you could give it a go. If i get hold of some marterial i'll let you know!

Michel,

when you have some seeds I'm interesting. Have some friends growing Sorbus very successful.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 24, 2009, 07:34:04 PM
Michael, some pictures would be nice  :)
Maggi, I foresee a dark stormy night when a few fruit will go missing on that S.hupehensis I saw  ;)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 24, 2009, 08:26:55 PM
Giles, great to see such a selection of sorbus species, lovely berries.

Michael, meant to comment yesterday, delighted to have you back with us so we can enjoy all the exotics you post.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 24, 2009, 08:32:25 PM
Some more local Sorbus.
Most still had their labels  :D
Sorbus 'Joseph Rock'
Sorbus cashmiriana
Sorbus hupehensis
Sorbus aucuparia (funny that the common one, is the worst)

very nice to see these-- i've never seen any range of them here, i will have to watch for available seed if there are any hardy species.. (my hardy ;) )
the shot with white berries and white church behind is especially nice..
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 24, 2009, 09:51:05 PM
Van Dusen Gardens in Vancouver (zone 8-ish) has a beautiful planting of Sorbus spp - various berry colours - pink, white, blue(?? - TBD), yellow anyway, etc. - and various leaf shapes.  (We hope to visit there and UBC again this fall.)  S. aucuparia, S. americana and S. decora and hybrids thereof, at least, are hardy here.  The neighbors planted a hybrid a few years ago that has oak leaf shaped leaves - it's done well so far.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 24, 2009, 10:18:18 PM
Blue berries? What species is that Lori? I love the thought of blue fruit with red leaves. :) I love all these species and they do very well here. I seem to get several weeks of good fruit before the birds discover them.

Michael, with Uli, I'd love a few seeds if available.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 24, 2009, 10:39:51 PM
Sorbus aucuparia (funny that the common one, is the worst)

Giles -   Wonderful Sorbus!  All of the great Sorbus you have shown will grow here on the coast.  But as you might guess the garden centres sell the most popular one, Sorbus aucuparia - the worst of the them all.  Aside from it's usual problems the caterpillars strip it bare in late summer.  Why do people not see the native ones as they drive along our roadsides, they're stunning?

Any chance you could snag a few seeds from that spectacular S. sargentiana?

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: dominique on September 24, 2009, 11:08:05 PM
Very generous convolvulaceae, Ipomoea alba which flowers in the evening during all night with intense perfume for night butterflies (Sphynx), enormus flowers 15cm diameter, blooms since july. To day, 28 flowers on only one plant. I hope I have deeds if fruits come mature quickly enough. Sown in april, the plant is now 4m long in 4 branches
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: dominique on September 24, 2009, 11:10:19 PM
again
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lori S. on September 24, 2009, 11:23:32 PM
Blue berries? What species is that Lori?

I don't know off-hand, Lesley... and it's possible I'm not even remembering correctly on that point!...  but I'll pay attention and take photos when we visit there this fall.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 25, 2009, 08:31:49 AM
Van Dusen Gardens in Vancouver (zone 8-ish) has a beautiful planting of Sorbus spp - various berry colours - pink, white, blue(?? - TBD), yellow anyway, etc. - and various leaf shapes.  (We hope to visit there and UBC again this fall.)  S. aucuparia, S. americana and S. decora and hybrids thereof, at least, are hardy here.  The neighbors planted a hybrid a few years ago that has oak leaf shaped leaves - it's done well so far.

That brought back some memories. About 15 years ago I had a project in Fiji (poor me) and passed through Vancouver and I remember being blown away by the range of cultivars of Sorbus aucuparia and other Sorbi (?) they were growing at van Dusen (had actually forgotten the name of the arboretum) - have some slides somewhere.

A couple of British natives for you:

First Sorbus devoniensis taken in Martin Crawford's Forest Garden in Totnes, Devon has large quite tasty fruits - the seed of the one I tasted sadly didn't germinate
Second, too early for the berries, but this is Sorbus bristoliensis in the botanics in some place called Aberdeen

Then, a couple of pictures of the impressive Sorbus domestica pyrifera in Kew Gardens….

I’m also a compulsive sorboseedaholic!


Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 25, 2009, 08:50:37 AM
Van Dusen Gardens in Vancouver (zone 8-ish) has a beautiful planting of Sorbus spp - various berry colours - pink, white, blue(?? - TBD), yellow anyway, etc. - and various leaf shapes.  (We hope to visit there and UBC again this fall.)  S. aucuparia, S. americana and S. decora and hybrids thereof, at least, are hardy here.  The neighbors planted a hybrid a few years ago that has oak leaf shaped leaves - it's done well so far.

i'm not sure what ours is, but most probably aucuparia, though i'm not positive, it is tending to remain rather shrubby, but as i mentioned, that may be due to wildlife pruning; i think its managed to grow out of their reach now, so may start to get more treeish...
i dont think i'd bother to grow another species with red berries, except that i would like to get the native S scopulina, which my book says grows 1-4m....
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 25, 2009, 08:52:39 AM
Blue berries? What species is that Lori?

I don't know off-hand, Lesley... and it's possible I'm not even remembering correctly on that point!...  but I'll pay attention and take photos when we visit there this fall.

Perhaps a Sorbus x Aronia cross (Sorbaronia) - I know the Finns have developed quite a few crosses of Sorbus and various other species with different coloured berries - see, for example, http://www.biotaimi.fi/Pihlaja.pdf (don't worry, Google Translate to the rescue, perhaps..., no, even Google got confused..)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 25, 2009, 02:09:21 PM
Some more local Sorbus.
Most still had their labels  :D
Sorbus 'Joseph Rock'
Sorbus cashmiriana
Sorbus hupehensis
Sorbus aucuparia (funny that the common one, is the worst)


Giles,

Your photos of Sorbus growing near you are wonderful - I love their leaf,flower, berry and Spring and Autumn colours - they really are a tree for all seasons wherever they grow.  I planted a Sorbus cashmiriana here but it has struggled and broke with the weight of snow - it has produced new shoots from the graft but am not sure if it is the cashmiriana or the grafted stock ....anyway am giving it TLC and a chance to grow here in the mountain - from its background I was assured it would survive at this height and extremes....on looking up more in Goggle, after seeing the fabulous white berries in your photo, I was directed to the link below - and another lovely sample!  ;D

http://www.srgc.org.uk/feature/sandynovember2006/content.html
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 25, 2009, 02:57:47 PM
Quote
seems the berries are good in Belgium too !
Yes, it may have been possible to squeeze a few more on that terrific Pyracantha, but only a very few!
A grand display and I like the other colours of Pyracantha, too, but  have a really soft spot for Sorbus..... which is just as well since Ian will keep growing them from seed and planting them out in the garden when my back is turned.  :P

Sorbus maderensis is a seriously endangered Madeiran endemic, is it not? Habitat loss if the problem, I assume. I don't think I've ever seen one.

It's been a good year for berries indeed.

Giles, that Sorbus cashmeriana is really nice
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 25, 2009, 06:01:39 PM
Wim,
I could ask for some seed from that one, if you wanted it.
It didn't have many fruit on it, but I'm sure they could be persuaded to part with a few.
(I'm just wondering if there isn't a 'Magritte' tucked behind that Pyracantha of yours  ;D)
Giles
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on September 25, 2009, 06:45:42 PM
Flowering just now and certainly living up to its name  ;)
Cirsium echinocephalum.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 25, 2009, 06:58:59 PM
Wim,
I could ask for some seed from that one, if you wanted it.
It didn't have many fruit on it, but I'm sure they could be persuaded to part with a few.
(I'm just wondering if there isn't a 'Magritte' tucked behind that Pyracantha of yours  ;D)
Giles

Hello Giles,

if it is possible to get some seeds, that would be very nice.
(No 'Olympia' behind my Pyracantha,...I've just looked... you never know and a reward of 10% of it's value would be very nice  ;))

Wim
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 25, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Lastly, a picture of Passiflora trifasciata, Euchile citrina, Heliconia bihai and a leaf of an aroid that seems anvil-hammered in copper, Alocasia cuprea.

Have a great day
Michael

Your pic of Heliconia bihai reminded me of one I saw in Trinidad, October 2007. It was the host of an interesting parasite.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 26, 2009, 02:17:50 AM
The Japanese anemones are flowering now but I have no idea which ones these are. Any suggestions?  Honorine Jobert is tricky here so I wonder if the white is another variety.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: johnw on September 26, 2009, 02:21:19 AM
One of our best native shrubs, Viburnum cassinoides.  Blue berries and eventually red autumn foliage, just as you ordered Lesley.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paul T on September 26, 2009, 02:24:19 AM
Fantastic pics everyone.  Just viewed this topic for the first time.  Some crackers of plants.  Of special mention..... the wonderful carnivorous plants shown part way through.... beautiful.  Anthony, that parasitic plant is quite striking isn't it?  And Michael, as well as a belated "Happy Birthday" from me, my compliments on those fantastic orchids.  The Stanhopeas and Gongoras are just glorious aren't they?  A fav of mine, although very rare for me to flower my S. tigrina (syn S. negroviolacea I think) as I don't have a glasshouse.  It survives remarkably well though, considering.  Some wonderful other orchids you showed too, including that beautiful Dracula, and a fascinating green with dark throat that I don't recognise at all.

Thanks to all for their wonderful pictures.  8)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 26, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
Great autumn show of berries, love the sorbus displays we have been treated to - many thanks to Giles and Stephen. Great show, many new cultivars.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Geebo on September 26, 2009, 01:14:05 PM
Great to be back,Iam in recovery now after my first knee replacement,awaiting the call for NR 2 on 21Th Oct.
see I missed all the lovely pictures,also missed a few early bulbs gone over while in  hospital,awhel next year again.Still got a few surprises on my way home.
Hope You All enjoy,
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on September 26, 2009, 01:27:20 PM
Glad to hear the fiirst op is over, Guy. Good luck with the second.... form what I hear from friends who have had this op, the key to successful recovery is to be very strict with yourself about doing the physio exercises they suggest.... seems to be the real difference for those who do best afterwards .... may be easier said than done, but I think it's good advice!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael on September 26, 2009, 01:45:16 PM

Sorbus maderensis is a seriously endangered Madeiran endemic, is it not? Habitat loss if the problem, I assume. I don't think I've ever seen one.

Yes Maggi, strangely enough i have seen one in the same day that i took the Erica maderensis pictures i posted earlier. It had fruits but they were still green by then so not worthy enough to photograph. I will try to go to the mountains soon to get hold of some. Here you got some more information about the species:
http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-738e6w

Lastly, a picture of Passiflora trifasciata, Euchile citrina, Heliconia bihai and a leaf of an aroid that seems anvil-hammered in copper, Alocasia cuprea.

Have a great day
Michael

Your pic of Heliconia bihai reminded me of one I saw in Trinidad, October 2007. It was the host of an interesting parasite.

Anthony, that's very interesting. Never saw or herd about that parasite.

Fantastic pics everyone.  Just viewed this topic for the first time.  Some crackers of plants.  Of special mention..... the wonderful carnivorous plants shown part way through.... beautiful.  Anthony, that parasitic plant is quite striking isn't it?  And Michael, as well as a belated "Happy Birthday" from me, my compliments on those fantastic orchids.  The Stanhopeas and Gongoras are just glorious aren't they?  A fav of mine, although very rare for me to flower my S. tigrina (syn S. negroviolacea I think) as I don't have a glasshouse.  It survives remarkably well though, considering.  Some wonderful other orchids you showed too, including that beautiful Dracula, and a fascinating green with dark throat that I don't recognise at all.

Thanks to all for their wonderful pictures.  8)
Hi Paul. Glad to hear from you again. I have still not forgotten your Thunbergia mysorensis, but pollinating it have been a failure so far. The hairy stamens seem depleted of pollen! About flowering the tigrina, give it plenty of light in the spring and summer, and you will get rewarded.
The green and black orchid is Coelogyne pandurata from Borneo.

By the way Paul, could give me a hand identifying (or at least trying to identify) the banksia species i had posted on another topic?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: pehe on September 26, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
My garden today. It is dominated by Colchicums and Crocus. Sternbergia has started flowering in the open garden.
The last two pictures are from a pot full of different seedlings from a seed collection trip in Malta.
What is the tiny plant with flower buds?

Poul

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Geebo on September 26, 2009, 05:22:24 PM
Thanks for that Maggi,You are so right,the only way to the recovery is torture,but the fisio is quit happy with  me so far,its just a bit lonely here sometime.but every day is closer to my goal. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 26, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
Great to be back,Iam in recovery now after my first knee replacement,awaiting the call for NR 2 on 21Th Oct.
see I missed all the lovely pictures,also missed a few early bulbs gone over while in  hospital,awhel next year again.Still got a few surprises on my way home.
Hope You All enjoy,
Cheers
Guy


have a speedy recovery! nice flowers for a homecoming :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on September 26, 2009, 06:57:58 PM
Lovely plants everyone. Here a just a few from my plot

Including a couple of border shots. I know that the purists  may be a bit sniffy about Dahlias ......... :-X

The Anemone I think is Louse Uhink but who can seperate these hybrids anyway. John yours looks great whatever it is

The sorbus is from a single seed that I "acquired" (it was on the floor honest  ;)). It is about 7ft high and full of berries. I think it is Koehneana but would welcome any other suggestions

The Cyclamen is Heder. Ruby Straion and my camera just doesn't do it justice
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 26, 2009, 07:01:33 PM
Any chance of some fruit off that Sorbus, Ian ?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on September 26, 2009, 07:09:27 PM
Giles let me have your address unless you are going to Loughborough next week - they are already dropping off- the berries that is
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Giles on September 26, 2009, 07:58:15 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 26, 2009, 08:12:57 PM
One of our best native shrubs, Viburnum cassinoides.  Blue berries and eventually red autumn foliage, just as you ordered Lesley.

johnw

Thanks John. I don't know that one at all. It looks very good. I'm interested that Sorbus will cross with both Malus and Pyrus (see Stephen's Finnish link). I'd like to try it here but at present, my lovely Malus is out while the Sorbus are still a couple of weeks away. My best Malus is a seedling from a very large crabapple I picked from the footpath outside someone's garden. The fruit was huge for a crab, almost 6cms in diamater but the seedling's fruit are small, not much more than 1cm and bright yellow whereas the other was a sort of russet colour. The flowers are large and a lovely pink. Will get a pic later this morning (haven't had breakfast yet. Daylight saving started at 2am).
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 26, 2009, 08:56:18 PM
Guy,

Good to hear you are on the road to recovery again, good to have you posting and looking forward to more from you.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 26, 2009, 09:25:04 PM
Recent postings with sorbus berries etc have really taken my interest. I took the camera and went around the garden this afternoon looking for berries or autumn fruits so here's a selection from the garden. Some are natives here and growing naturally on my boundary but they add to the interest of the garden also.

Paddy

Alnus incana 'Aurea'
Carrick Crab - an apple propagated by a local nurseryman from cuttings taken from a tree he noticed growing on the side of the road. Great apple.
Crataegus prunifolius
Euonymous planipes
Horse Chestnut
Malus 'Golden Hornet'
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 26, 2009, 09:29:06 PM
Malus 'Gorgeous'
Polygonatum verticilliatum
Prunus sp Blackthorn - sloe
Rosa canina
Rosa rubifolia
Sambucus sp Elderberry
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 26, 2009, 09:31:13 PM
Sorbus cashmeriana
Sorbus koehneana
Viburnum mariesii
Ditto
Viburnum setigerum
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 26, 2009, 09:40:48 PM
Haemanthus albiflorus in flower in the greenhouse
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 26, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
Wow, Michael, What a stunner. Beautiful.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ranunculus on September 26, 2009, 10:19:37 PM
Absolutely superb Michael ... what a gorgeous plant.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: mark smyth on September 26, 2009, 11:53:27 PM
I want to extend the season in my garden. What is the best Sorbus for a small garden? It cant be any shade of orange or red
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 27, 2009, 04:19:40 AM
Haemanthus albiflorus in flower in the greenhouse

splendid! i assume that's many years of skilled tlc?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 27, 2009, 04:29:42 AM
paddy--very nice set---lots of really nice berries and leaves...viburnums lovely..
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 27, 2009, 10:39:24 AM
Paddy, how mature is your Sorbus cashmeriana? Wondering what height it will reach eventually....all your berries, hips and fruits are so decorative...do you grow a lot of different apple varieties?  Virburnums are wonderful for flower, leaf and Autumn colour - although we have wonderful colour here in the valley too from fruit trees I do miss the woodland mix of changing colours in our Alpine garden here.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 27, 2009, 10:57:17 AM
Robin,

The S. cashmeriana is only planted five years, lost it leader two years ago and is a miserable specimen. Despite this it berries well, disproportionately well to be honest.

Yes, I grow a number of crabapple trees in the garden. Off the top of my head, sitting here at the computer, I can count 8. Then, there are 5 domestic apples as well.

Viburnum setigerum is a young plant and this is its first year fruiting and I  am delighted with it. It is a nice orange-red and very attractive.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 27, 2009, 11:18:50 AM
Thanks folks, that plant is ten years old. It is the first time I have got a decent pic without slug damaged leaves,they love the young growth. 
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 27, 2009, 12:20:46 PM
Robin,

I can agree with Paddy, S. cashmeriana is not the most hardy or well-formed shrub.  I notice winter-kill every season, however it does recover quickly, but is hardly a symetrical shrub.  Mine is seed grown, which means it was not selected for its form, etc.  On the other hand, S. hupehensis grows quite nicely, does suffer a bit from winter-kill, but is a profuse bloomer with lots of pink berries.  It was purchased from a Dutch nursery and assumedly selected.  Although I cannot be certain, I think one can keep both to a 2-3 meter high shrub through pruning.  Even with a single lead, I doubt a tree form could be pruned without support as the stems are pretty weak and lax.

As to growing from seed, most Sorbus are apomixus and produce seed without pollination.  The resulting seedlings are very similar to the mother, although not identical.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Geebo on September 27, 2009, 04:01:47 PM
 Thanks Cohan and Paddy for the nice touchts.Great pictures with all those vibrant colors,its hard to believe autumn is all around us,went out for a while to get a Little medley.
enjoy,

Guy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 27, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
Paddy & Jamie, thanks for all the information covering your experiences of growing S. cashmeriana.  I will see what happens next year with ours....

Paddy, with all those crabapples I imagine you make crabapple jelly  ::)   my absolute favourite on hot buttered toast or with creme fraiche & croissant  :D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 27, 2009, 04:38:43 PM
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Haemanthus albiflorus in flower in the greenhouse

Michael, can you tell me more about this wonderful plant you've grown?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 27, 2009, 04:41:57 PM
Guy, I do wish you a speedy recovery from your knee replacement and the best tonic is seeing what is growing in your garden - what a a welcome you had from your plants flowering so profusely and the medley of flowers is wonderful too  :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 27, 2009, 05:20:54 PM
Robin, there is no skill required to grow this plant,actually it thrives on neglect. It has not been re potted for four or five years and only gets water when I remember. It is very slow growing so patience and neglect is the order of the day. I only water it on a regular basis when I see new growth.
I have some one year old seedlings if you want one,obviously they are very small.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ranunculus on September 27, 2009, 05:25:11 PM
A few captured in the garden this afternoon ...

A gentian from Aberconwy Nursery - suggestions please?
Gentian 'Silken Night' - another from the Aberconwy collection
Armeria maritima 'White Mountain form' - seeds collected in the White Mountains of California, many miles from the ocean.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 27, 2009, 05:41:23 PM
Gorgeous Gentiana Cliff, if ever you have more seed of
Quote
Armeria maritima 'White Mountain form' - seeds collected in the White Mountains of California, many miles from the ocean.
I would love to try it here  8) 
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 27, 2009, 05:59:27 PM
A few items still showing in the garden today. A favourite perennial Begonia, whose name I always forget. Seeds about freely and the leaves have a wonderful, somewhat metallic sheen.  Then there are the Cyclamen, which are beautiful with or without blossoms.  Finally, a few colours of Gentiana scabra, which is a common perennial at this time of year at the garden markets.

Begonia
Begonia
Cyclamen coum leaves
Cyclamen hederadifolium
Gentiana scabra
Gentiana scabra alba
Gentiana scabra rosea

Begonia evansiana or B. grandis ssp. evansiana, depending on your book
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 27, 2009, 06:13:00 PM
Robin,

There is a profusion of crabapple trees growing wild all around me and it is these we use to make crabapple jelly, usually flavoured with mint and we use it more usually with pork. Delicious!

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Gerdk on September 27, 2009, 07:06:55 PM
A few items still showing in the garden today. A favourite perennial Begonia, whose name I always forget. Seeds about freely and the leaves have a wonderful, somewhat metallic sheen. 

Begonia evansiana or B. grandis ssp. evansiana perhaps?
A fine species for the garden!

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 27, 2009, 08:00:11 PM
Thanks, Gerd,

exactly what I couldn't remember.  As I've never seen B. grandis, I have no idea what the differences are.  This is truly a treasure for the Autumn garden.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 27, 2009, 08:42:37 PM
Michael that is a superb plant of the Haemanthus. Usually one sees just a single bulb in flower. I don't think I've ever seen a clump like yours.

My own Sorbus cashmeriana are just 10cms high so far, having been grown from seed filched from a medical centre car park a couple of years ago. The parent is about 2.5 metres wide and high, a sprawling shrub rather than a tree and showing no sign of winter damage though we are quite mild compared with, say, Germany or central Europe, but I have also seen several trees of it outside a rather nice pub at Dansey's pass where the winter is quite severe. No damage there either that I noticed.

Could I have some general advice please about removing suckers from young Sorbus trees, without damaging the underground trunks and hopefully to stop further suckers. Both SS. koehneana and sargentiana sucker quite badly here and it does spoil the look of the tree as well as being messy for the other plants around.

Paddy your varied fruit crop is really wonderful. Berries are such a bonus and a joy in the autumn/winter garden. I'd hate to be without them.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: ruweiss on September 27, 2009, 09:42:07 PM
As far as I know is Begonia grandis a synonym of B.evansiana.
I fully agree with Jamie, that this plant is very valuable for its
autumn-flowering habit.There also exists a white flowering form.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 28, 2009, 07:38:11 AM
Jamie, such lovely flowers in your garden at this time of year your Cyclamen hederadifolium looks so healthy and strong with lovely leaves - scented too I imagine.... the Gentiana scabra in all colours have beautiful trumpets - must look up the plant size and habitat today as I would like to try it here.  Thanks for showing!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Regelian on September 28, 2009, 08:39:17 AM
I researched a bit on the Begonia grandis vs evansiana and found some bits here and there, but not enough to fully explain the mixed-up naming.  What I did find is that B. grandis was described as a Chinese plants and B. evansiana is from Japan.  What I beleive happened is the plants were seperately described and later thought to be simply sub-species seperated via the China Sea, thus B. grandis ssp sinensis and B. grandis ssp evansiana.  Assumedly, it is unclear as to which name was properly published first and would have precidence, but, as we know to assume is to make an ass- out of -u- and -me.

I, also, found a genetic study on B. evansiana, which has 26 chromosomes and is now thought to be an established alloploid hybrid derived from a cross between a 6 and 7 chromosome species (the typical ploidy in Begonia), therefore an amphidiploid.  Now, if this is true for the chinese form, I do not know.  In any case, both are closely related and have been seperate since at least the birth of the China Sea, about 15 million years ago.

Robin,
Gentiana scabra is a Japanese species coming from acid, somewhat boggy areas, which is why it is so easy to grow in most gardens.  It doesn't require the free drainage of the alpine species.  It is slightly procumbent and rarely over 15cm in my garden, but I would think it could reach 20cm.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 28, 2009, 09:24:58 AM
Neutral to alkaline here Jamie and could not be described as 'boggy' just soaking in Spring melt, so will have to admire Gentiana scabra from afar in your garden  :)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Arykana on September 28, 2009, 01:50:53 PM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/aster.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/as.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/cos.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 28, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/aster.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/as.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/cos.jpg)

very nice--this (first two photos) looks just like one of the native asters that grows all over here; great to have the colour at the end of the season :) of course, ours are mostly done, though some plants here and there still going..
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: PaulM on September 28, 2009, 06:59:35 PM
Some pictures of two Geraniums which flowered for me a couple of weeks ago:

1) Geranium sp
2) Geranium sp
3) Geranium sp
4) Geranium sp a few days later and in a different light
5) Geranium pamiricum
6) Geranium pamiricum close up
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 28, 2009, 07:24:13 PM
Fantastic pictures everyone :)

Continuing the recent "Friuiting now" thread and being particularly attracted by the ususual/unexpected, here's a fetching black-fruited hawthorn spotted in the Uppsala Botanical Garden recently; Crataegus nigra (hadn't seen this one before):

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 28, 2009, 07:38:14 PM
Also in Uppsala was this Sambucus caerulea (which Roger mentioned in another thread). Secondly, another North American, Sambucus canadensis (syn S. nigra ssp canadensis) "York", a late maturing cultivar which flowers in my garden from about the end of the S. nigra flowering season until now, extending the "elderflower fritter" season if your partial to one of the gardening year's highlights/temptations.. (one untried recipe here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2007/jun/09/foodanddrink.shopping2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2007/jun/09/foodanddrink.shopping2)). The picture is taken in September (Sambucus "Black Beauty" can also be seen).
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: mark smyth on September 28, 2009, 10:42:52 PM
Do you have a close up of Sambucus caerulea berries?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 28, 2009, 10:53:48 PM
Stephen,

The Crataegus nigra and the Sambucus caerulaea are outstanding.

Any recipes for elderberries - the flowers are well gone here but there are plenty of berries.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 28, 2009, 11:10:24 PM
Quote
Any recipes for elderberries

No recipes as such but elderberries make a wonderful wine, Paddy - we tasted a bottle we made 25 years ago recently and it was like a vintage Port   :P
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Geebo on September 29, 2009, 03:31:20 AM
Hi Robin,
You sure had a lot off Patience with that elderberry wine he, :-\ :-\ :-\ or did You forget it was there  ::) ::)
It reminds me, I made some years ago with honey when I was a keen beekeeper,non left tough.

Paddy,
You can make a good syrup out the berry`s used as a cough remedy in winter. :D :D Try Google for recepies also.
Did You ever try to make elder flower wine? it reminds me always on a good Alsace wine,well wort the try.
cheers, :) :) :D
Guy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: cohan on September 29, 2009, 07:34:01 AM
nice berries, stephen!
you may be interested to know, i have recently tried some berries which i previously did not know were edible--
Maianthemum canadense-finally found some ripe ones--there are still others around that are green (with speckles) and as hard as ever, even with leaves dried up; the ripe ones were red, and actually quite tasty, though not much flesh..easy to clean those seeds ;)
Cornus sericea--rather bitter and sour, but i actually rather like this one..i have only eaten a few at a time...
Symphoricarpos alba-rather mealy and variably bitter; supposedly very laxative, so since its not that tasty, didnt eat many..
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 29, 2009, 07:56:27 AM
Do you have a close up of Sambucus caerulea berries?

No, sorry...
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 29, 2009, 09:14:51 AM
I went through the home-made wine phase twenty years ago and didn't keep any from then. The professionals generally do a better job.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Arykana on September 29, 2009, 11:03:52 AM
Try those ones, but the elderberry makes your kitchen quite dirty ::)
http://arykana.lapunk.hu/?modul=oldal&tartalom=1027918 (http://arykana.lapunk.hu/?modul=oldal&tartalom=1027918)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on September 29, 2009, 11:27:36 AM
I don't think the professionals make a dandelion wine quite as good as the one Chris makes  ;)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Arykana on September 29, 2009, 11:31:03 AM
I am sure ;D Chris would be better :-*
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 29, 2009, 11:34:37 AM
Can we see a glass?  8)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Arykana on September 29, 2009, 11:38:27 AM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/bor.jpg) here is mine ;D
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 30, 2009, 01:15:48 PM
Some plants that are flowering here now:

1) Echinacea 'Sunrise'
2) Sedum sp.
3) Tradescantia sillamontana

and some plants which I bought recently :

4) Heuchera 'Lime Rickey'
5) Heuchera 'Mint Frost'
6) Hosta venusta 'Minuet'
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on September 30, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
Do you know where Tradescantia sillamontana comes from, Wim - interesting hairy leaves. Is it hardy?
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on September 30, 2009, 05:22:27 PM
Stephen,

it comes from N.E.-Mexico. I got it a month ago from a friendly nursery-women who was growing it as a potplant (outside during the summer and inside during the winter). I don't think it's hardy enough for my zone 8 although I may be tempted to try it next year.
The leaves feel like felt.
Now it's still quite small but if you want a cutting next year just let me know, it's easy to take root.
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on September 30, 2009, 05:54:49 PM
The Tradescantia looks like the plants they had on the windowsills of my old school in the 1970s- the ubiquitous hanging basket plant. Whatever happened to macrame.  ;)
Flowering here on the rockgarden
Aster coloradoensis
a self sown Linum rigidum
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Ragged Robin on October 01, 2009, 12:02:42 AM
The Tradescantia looks like the plants they had on the windowsills of my old school in the 1970s- the ubiquitous hanging basket plant. Whatever happened to macrame.  ;)
Flowering here on the rockgarden
Aster coloradoensis
a self sown Linum rigidum

And what about rag rugs with all colours of the rainbow twisted together!  Crafts still going strong in Switzerland....how about where you are Simon?

Lovely little Aster, I do like their late arrival looking as if they are all dressed for a party!

Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on October 01, 2009, 07:19:25 AM
Traditional crafts are still going strong here- but never seen macrame  ;)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on October 01, 2009, 09:24:11 AM
Stephen,

it comes from N.E.-Mexico. I got it a month ago from a friendly nursery-women who was growing it as a potplant (outside during the summer and inside during the winter). I don't think it's hardy enough for my zone 8 although I may be tempted to try it next year.
The leaves feel like felt.
Now it's still quite small but if you want a cutting next year just let me know, it's easy to take root.

Thanks for the offer - was hoping it was a hardy species; trying to cut down on my pot plants (no, not that kind of pot, honest!).  I googled it and saw that they had it in the National Botanical Garden in Belgium, but perhaps it's in the glasshouses. Incidentally, I was just recently in Gent and visited the botanics there - interesting garden with lots of unusual species... I'll post some pictures later if I get time.

Stephen
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on October 01, 2009, 10:12:02 AM
Incidentally, I was just recently in Gent and visited the botanics there - interesting garden with lots of unusual species... I'll post some pictures later if I get time.

Stephen

The botanical garden of the university of Ghent is nice (it's my alma mater, so I can't say a bad word about it  ;)), not very big but they have got some interesting plants there.
The National botanical garden in Meise is a lot bigger and very nice too, if you ever get the opportunity to visit, be sure to go there. They had a real tough time since they didn't get any government grants for more than ten years because of the "normal squabbles" between the Flemish and the Belgian government.  Now that's over, they're renovating all of their greenhouses which was very necessary...
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: mark smyth on October 01, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Simon it's good to see a large plant of Aster coloradoensis. I'm lucky if I get 6 flowers on mine
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Sinchets on October 01, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
Mark, the flowering has been a bit hit and miss all summer as it has been too hot and dry. There are lots of buds to come, but I think it will only make a good show if we have our promised rain over the weekend. I had one in England, which only ever had 1 flower at a time- so well done with your 6!
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Geebo on October 02, 2009, 02:42:31 AM
Hi Wim,

I believe Gent Botanical gardens is or was a great source to get some research on epimediums even tough I never had a chance to visit.must try to get there by my next visit to some of my friends.
Meise remind me of the time I had to bring my son there to boarding school,its hard to understand the squabbles are still going on in that small country Belgium is,its amazing here in Ireland the seem to have found a way to come to understand peace he after all. ::) ::)
Greetings from a Belgium. :) :)
Guy ;)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on October 02, 2009, 08:06:36 AM
The botanical garden of the university of Ghent is nice (it's my alma mater, so I can't say a bad word about it  ;)), not very big but they have got some interesting plants there.
The National botanical garden in Meise is a lot bigger and very nice too, if you ever get the opportunity to visit, be sure to go there. They had a real tough time since they didn't get any government grants for more than ten years because of the "normal squabbles" between the Flemish and the Belgian government.  Now that's over, they're renovating all of their greenhouses which was very necessary...

Yes, I was there last summer, but as you say the greenhouses were closed. Even though the greenhouses were closed there is much else of interest and I remember being surprised that there were hardly any visitors in the garden. 
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Stephenb on October 02, 2009, 08:08:17 AM
Hi Wim,

I believe Gent Botanical gardens is or was a great source to get some research on epimediums even tough I never had a chance to visit.must try to get there by my next visit to some of my friends.
Meise remind me of the time I had to bring my son there to boarding school,its hard to understand the squabbles are still going on in that small country Belgium is,its amazing here in Ireland the seem to have found a way to come to understand peace he after all. ::) ::)
Greetings from a Belgium. :) :)
Guy ;)

I understood that Gent has the largest Peperomia collection in the world...
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on October 02, 2009, 10:07:06 AM

I understood that Gent has the largest Peperomia collection in the world...


 There's no answer to that!  ::) :-X
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on October 02, 2009, 10:51:09 AM

Yes, I was there last summer, but as you say the greenhouses were closed. Even though the greenhouses were closed there is much else of interest and I remember being surprised that there were hardly any visitors in the garden. 

I think people were forgetting we had a national botanical garden... since they had no money for the most fundamental things like scientific research and renovation of their infrastructure they certainly had no money for "merchandising". Now it's starting to look up for them...
for anyone interested; this is the link to their website: http://www.br.fgov.be/
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on October 02, 2009, 10:54:24 AM

I understood that Gent has the largest Peperomia collection in the world...

And they have the national collection of Sansevieria too... (I think they started collecting them because of their dutch name which is "women's tongue"  :P ;D)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: WimB on October 02, 2009, 10:56:56 AM
its hard to understand the squabbles are still going on in that small country Belgium is,its amazing here in Ireland the seem to have found a way to come to understand peace he after all. ::) ::)


Hello Guy,

sometimes I think our politicians are like little children who'll never learn *sigh*  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Arykana on October 19, 2009, 06:40:27 AM
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_4140.jpg)
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_4156.jpg)

my garden has burned down in the summer heat, we do not have rain from the first week of June till now, so I can make only portraits ::) and hope next year will do better
Title: Re: Flowering Now - September 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 19, 2009, 08:15:39 PM

I understood that Gent has the largest Peperomia collection in the world...


 There's no answer to that!  ::) :-X

Non secateurs, in fact. ;D
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