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Title: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 01, 2009, 07:07:29 AM
Howdy All,

Almost feels summery outside at the moment.... definitely T-shirt weather compared to most of what we've been having recently.  Very fitting for the first day of "spring" here.  Absolutely glorious weather, and without the awful winds we've had for the last week or so.  Yeah!!

For starters, some of Thomas H's lovely Anemone blanda seedlings.  There's a lovely pale blue with the "normal" blue ones, and then a purpley one.  Following that is Anemone blanda 'Pink Star'.
I wish we had the smell function that Maggi has been talking about.... the brown Boronia (Boronia megastigma) is just glorious right now.  The scent it divine!!  8)
Epimedium pubescens has popped flowers up in the last couple of days, which means i have to get myself together and send some off to Otto while I still can!!  :o  A lovely delicate flowerhead, quite tall and Heuchera-like to my eye.

Please click on the pic for a larger version.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 01, 2009, 07:40:29 AM
Melasphaerula ramosa is regarded by many as a weed, but I love it, and it hasn't become a problem to me as yet.  Delicate little flowers on long stems dance about in the breeze quite happily.  ;D

Scilla messaniaca is coming into full flower at the moment, assuming it is correctly named.  I may post this in the Scilla topic as well, just to represent some of the Southern Hemisphere flowerings.  ;)

I'll also be posting some stuf in the Narcissus topic shortly.

Enjoy.

Please click on the pic for a larger version.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 01, 2009, 09:44:17 AM
I meant to mention the little hitchhiker on the purpley Anemone blanda seedling...... looks like some sort of little wasp or something (I don't think the antennae are right for a flying aphid are they?).  I didn't see it when I took the picture, but quite obvious when it came up on the computer.  8)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 01, 2009, 09:10:05 PM
The purpley blanda is particularly nice, very full-petalled. Lots of pollen there too, so the little fly guy will be pollinating hopefully
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 01, 2009, 11:21:41 PM
Lesley,

It is much purpler than that in real life, just the shine of the petals making it paler.  Smaller flower than the others, at this stage, but as it is a first flowering I don't make judgements yet.  ;D  The hassle with these is I wouldn't be game to try to separate out the different colour forms from the blue, so they're going to have to stay in there together and I'll never work out what is what when dormant.  :o

The big disappointment with 'Pink Star' is that it appears to be pod sterile.  I have no idea whether the pollen is viable or not, but I have never been able to get seedset on it, despite hand pollinating each year from the others that I have ('Charmeur', 'Blue Shades', 'White Splendour' and 'Radar').  I haven't had 'Charmeur' long enough yet to work out whether it will be pod fertile or not, as it is a very similar pink.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 02, 2009, 09:45:17 PM
I've not had seed on my 'Pink Star' either though 'Violet Star' makes a little seed and the seedlings are in shades of rich purple and hot magenta so very good. I've always thought 'White Splendour' was sterile' but this last spring it had some seed.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on September 02, 2009, 11:55:46 PM
always fun to see whats growing on the other side--bound to be some cool things i dont know (of course, lots of possibility for that in the north too!)
love the colour on the pale anemone, and the scilla too..
cohan
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 03, 2009, 05:31:25 AM
These 3 today and some nice person will tell me please, the names of the two Narcissus cultivars. They are rescued from my long grass. The first is about 20cms and the second about 30cms though both would perhaps be taller if in good conditions and not hideously neglected.
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These 3 flowers are more than I've had before on Trillium nivale. There would have been a fourth as well but it was misshapen and didn't develop properly. It has taken 12 years from the original bought plant to achieve this much.
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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: kiwi on September 03, 2009, 06:37:31 AM
Trillium chloropetalum and Narcissus 'Rapture'.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 03, 2009, 09:55:13 AM
A lovely near black chloropetalum Doug. :)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 04, 2009, 09:41:15 PM

It's that time of the season again, to get me all excited, when one
of my favourite geophytes the Tecophilaea's are flowering right now.
Without doubt, the most sought after of all the smaller (alpine) flowering
bulbs/corms: the fabulous "Chilean blue crocus"
Its supreme beauty and rarity makes it a must for in every connoisseur's
collection.
This species is now believed to be critically endangered in the wild, mainly
because of over-collecting and intensive grazing by cattle and sheep to the
point of becoming extinct.
Fortunately they are not difficult to grow, and although rare in
cultivation, and given the right environment, will not be lost from the
planet.
They are usually grown in an alpine house or cold glasshouse.
Because they are so unique and beautiful, these plants justify special
attention and treatment.
Tecophilaea's of course are always much admired when flowering en masse, a sight never
to be forgotten.
Enjoy the pictures
Bill Dijk


Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 04, 2009, 09:56:27 PM
Bill - Good grief what a sight!

An impeccably clean and well organized scene as well.

Do tell us how you winter them when dormant - moisture etc and your mix..

johnw
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 04, 2009, 09:58:32 PM
A glorious sight, Bill
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 04, 2009, 10:06:31 PM
Crikey..... locally plentiful, eh???!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 04, 2009, 10:07:33 PM
Sorry folks, no profile mug shot of myself yet, 8) will work on that.
Maggi has send me some instruction, will try soon.
Bill
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Giles on September 04, 2009, 10:30:00 PM
Dear Bill,
Absolutely amazing..... 8)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on September 04, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
Bill has been an advocate for Tecophilaea in New Zealand.  His passion for them is evident in the photos below

Plus his mini daffs are very cool
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 04, 2009, 11:28:57 PM
Heck Bill you have the Tecophilaea bug really bad - what 'a glad to be alive' sight and to know that you are saving these endangered plants must be so heartwarming.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: mark smyth on September 04, 2009, 11:35:22 PM
OMG  :o :o :o :o
You must be the happiest person on earth when you look at that sea of blue
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 05, 2009, 08:13:33 AM
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Tecophilaea's of course are always much admired when flowering en masse, a sight never
to be forgotten.

Bill, thank you for such an amazing sight, these wonderful coloured Tecophilaea certainly know how to show themselves off to best effect and are obviously given 5 star treatment by you  :)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 05, 2009, 09:53:37 AM
WOW!!!!
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Rogan on September 05, 2009, 10:03:45 AM
"Bill, thank you for such an amazing sight"

Truly amazing...

I cherish the 20 seedlings (now approx. 10cm high) that I have grown from seed and hope one day (soon!) to have a small patch of blue "heaven" just like that  :D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Rogan on September 05, 2009, 02:01:43 PM
A few more jewels from Eclectica:

Geissorhiza radians - this has to be the most beautiful flower in the world   ;D

Cyclamen coum - oh, no not again!   ;)

Cyclamen persicum - my little volunteer...

Tropaeolum hookerianum austropurpureum - I had to put this one in - again   ::)

Paeonia rockii (?) - never thought I could grow this one in my climate - from seed nogal;

And a miscellaneous Polyanthus cultivar.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 05, 2009, 05:28:12 PM
I can only join a lot of the previous posters !

a truly amazing sight Bill !!!!!  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fleurbleue on September 05, 2009, 06:20:11 PM
Hi all,
Nice to see springtime flowers in fall  :D :D :D, and someones unknown  ::)
Cheers
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 05, 2009, 08:34:15 PM
Sorry folks, no profile mug shot of myself yet, 8) will work on that.
Maggi has send me some instruction, will try soon.
Bill

 Hey, you did it! Hello, Bill.... so much nicer to see you!!
 M
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 05, 2009, 09:22:23 PM
Hi John, when it comes to storing the Tecophilaea corms/bubs during the winter, the short answer is very carefully.
After flowering, I usually gradually reduce the watering, to allow the bulbs to go completely dormant.
You can either store them dry (95% dry) in their own containers in a cool, dry, frost-free location, or like I do dig them up and again store them in the same cool, dry, frost-free spot.
Watch out for rats and mice, I use rat bait.
Trust this was helpful. 
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 05, 2009, 09:57:59 PM
Troaeolum:this beautiful genus contains many species from South America.
Many species make atractive climbers and others can be used in the garden or in cotainers.
They require good drainage and tolerate full sun or partial shade.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 05, 2009, 10:12:22 PM
Can someone please tell me what all those stars in the profile are all about?
Could I perhaps bribe admin or Maggi  :-* with some Tecophilaea or Tropaeolum corm/bulbs ;D
Was worth trying  :(
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Diane Clement on September 05, 2009, 10:16:15 PM
Can someone please tell me what all those stars in the profile are all about?
Could I perhaps bribe admin or Maggi  :-* with some Tecophilaea or Tropaeolum corm/bulbs ;D
Was worth trying  :(    

Keep posting lots more lovely pix, Bill, and the stars will increase.   8)  8)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Giles on September 05, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
It's done purely on the number of postings you make, but in terms of quality, I think you have already achieved 5 gold stars (with knobs on) already !!
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 06, 2009, 01:23:30 AM
Lesley, that is a lovely Fritillaria aurea, I grow something simular, and flowering at the moment, but lost the name.
Could it be the same species? or just another hybrid/clone
I love my frits, but they are difficult to maintain up north, but that does not stop me from trying.
Had another good frost last nite, forgot to cover my early potatoes, all black now :'(
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 06, 2009, 01:34:00 AM
Can someone please tell me what all those stars in the profile are all about?
Could I perhaps bribe admin or Maggi  :-* with some Tecophilaea or Tropaeolum corm/bulbs ;D
Was worth trying  :(

Bill - Thanks for the advise on Tecophilaea.

The more gold stars = the more free time one has.

The blue stars = people who can be bribed with chocolate.

johnw

Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 06, 2009, 02:13:39 AM
BTW:how do I get the "quote from" in the next post and what does that "red Xremove" means in the posting? Thanks.
I have to wait till Maggi wakes up from her beauty sleep to bribe her with chocolate, hope she is in a good mood ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 06, 2009, 02:22:59 AM
Bill - Clicking "remove" will remove your posting from the Forum permanently. You will see that that option is not available for other's postings, only your own. Usually when one makes a serious error and then want to remove the posting it is already too late, Maggi has read it and pounced already. The nice thing about late evening in Nova Scotia and New Zealand is that we can be fairly certain she is asleep. Sometimes she must set her alarm for 3am GMT just to check on us, so be careful.  ;D    She doesn't miss a trick.  ;)

If you click on someone else's post all you can do is quote from it in your reply.  Once you hit quote then it is your letter and you can respond below the last quote mark.  You and also eliminate parts of the quote that are not relevant to your reply. Just be careful not to delete the "word quote in square brackets" at the beginning and at the end of the quote.

johnw
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 06, 2009, 11:43:10 AM
While we all enjoy the standard daffodils, we must not forget the miniatures, with their own charm, appeal and popularity.
They're easy to grow in pots or containers, and provide flowering and enjoyment over a long period, from May until Oct. (Southern Hemisphere)
No need to say that I enjoy growing them and doing a spot of hybridizing with the miniatures at the same time of the season.
I grow most of my miniature species and hybrids in containers, outside in the nursery, or inside a glass-house as you can see in one of the pictures for convenience of hydridising and freedom of rain, wind and frost, not to forget better seed production.
Anyway here are a few of the (mainly) N cyclamineus seedlings/hybrids, one of my favourite genera.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 06, 2009, 12:30:38 PM
This time more yellow N.cyclamineus miniature seedlings/hybrids, with varieties like Little Gem, Atom, Weebee, Kibitser, Mitzy and other suitable vrieties all used in the breeding and back crosses made for better form, vigour, colour, and suitability for the (rock)garden
More to come later, enjoy.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Rogan on September 06, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Here's another fantastic plant from these parts: an extremely rare, yellow-flowered form of the Hilton Daisy, Gerbera aurantiaca - for your viewing pleasure  :D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 06, 2009, 01:15:44 PM
Good afternoon, Chums! I've been having a quiet, computer free morning... but I see you are sorting out Bill's queris about Froum "stuff".....Thanks!  :-*

Bill, I have resized your frit photo for you..... it is a form of F. aurea... looks very much like the narrow petalled form that was marketed "down here" as  'Golden Flag'  :)


 Your "starry"  N. cyclamineus forms are delightful!!  8)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 06, 2009, 07:40:22 PM
Lovely run of photographs here, so unseasonal for us northerners and such a welcome splash of colour.

Enjoyed them, Paddy
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 07, 2009, 01:48:02 AM
The gerbera is a beauty Rogan. Forgive me, but at first glance I thought - Doronicum!
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 07, 2009, 02:03:27 AM
Maggi, locally plentiful (Tecophilaeas) but NOT locally cheap!!!

Bill, Great that you have joined the world of posters. Our first North Islander, so far as I can remember, so an extra warm welcome.

Judging from your Frit aurea and the various notes about this species, mine may be F. collina, not aurea as it has rounded shoulders, not the square ones which are so evident in your pic. Maybe Maggi or Ian would like to have another look at mine and give an opinion.

I mentioned earlier that I had another aurea about to flower from Frit Group seed. It's still a couple of days away but so far appears to be almost cream rather than yellow and without any chequering at all. Wierd!
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 07, 2009, 02:11:49 AM
Whatever you want on the Forum Bill, Maggi can be bribed with chocolate. ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on September 07, 2009, 04:35:36 AM
It's that time of the season again, to get me all excited, when one
of my favourite geophytes the Tecophilaea's are flowering right now.
Without doubt, the most sought after of all the smaller (alpine) flowering
bulbs/corms: the fabulous "Chilean blue crocus"
Its supreme beauty and rarity makes it a must for in every connoisseur's
collection.
This species is now believed to be critically endangered in the wild, mainly
because of over-collecting and intensive grazing by cattle and sheep to the
point of becoming extinct.
Fortunately they are not difficult to grow, and although rare in
cultivation, and given the right environment, will not be lost from the
planet.
They are usually grown in an alpine house or cold glasshouse.
Because they are so unique and beautiful, these plants justify special
attention and treatment.
Tecophilaea's of course are always much admired when flowering en masse, a sight never
to be forgotten.
Enjoy the pictures
Bill Dijk

very cool to see them en masse! are these all natural variations, or are there cultivars? are you producing these commercially, or just for fun?
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on September 07, 2009, 05:28:20 AM
Can someone please tell me what all those stars in the profile are all about?

I don't know about stars, Bill ... you deserve PLANETS!   Across your own blue firmament!!!   Magnificent sight.    :D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 07, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
Here are a some of the white N.cyclamineus crosses I've made, mainly with Snipe and other white seedlings under number, often crossing back 2 or 3 times with other fertile species or white hybrids to improve the shape and the colour, and hopefully remain fertile for futher future hybridising.
N.cyclamineus sdgs. #1 and #2 are the same, after 3 days the flower turned almost to pure white.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 07, 2009, 11:28:36 AM
A couple of my favourite white miniatures, which don't need introdudtion.
Snipe of course is a very good fertile parent variety, which I use extensively when I cross it with the cyclamineus species and other white fertile hybrid/seedlings.
Xit, no doubt is always a very good variety in any ones miniature cup class on the show bench, and not to forget the rock garden.
Cheers and enjoy.


Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2009, 12:00:25 PM
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.....mentioned earlier that I had another aurea about to flower from Frit Group seed. It's still a couple of days away but so far appears to be almost cream rather than yellow and without any chequering at all. Wierd!
You might be getting into the realms of tubiformis then, Lesley!!


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Judging from your Frit aurea and the various notes about this species, mine may be F. collina, not aurea as it has rounded shoulders, not the square ones which are so evident in your pic. Maybe Maggi or Ian would like to have another look at mine and give an opinion.

 Lesley, take a read of Ian's frit article again, it should help!
 
F. collina has toothed edges/  serrations to the edge of the tepals. aurea does not.

I attach two pix.... one showing whole flower of F. collina.... this does have square shoulders,  as you can see.... and a close-up of the toothed edges.....

 click the pix to enlarge
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 07, 2009, 12:22:29 PM
Sometimes, different, nicely shaped N.bulbicodium seedlings pop up in the boxes, from natural open pollination.
These three bulbicodiums are just a few of many that I collected and grow on, to see if they come true next season.

Thanks for the warm welcome by all your friendly SRGC members, I am little overwhelmed.
Hope you get as much pleasure from the pictures as I do showing them, your responses make it all worthwhile.
BTW: One of my other hobbies is of course photography, I often take many exposures at different settings, and select the best image. One GB card can hold over 1000 pictures, cheap for digital photography nowadays.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2009, 12:26:22 PM
A couple of my favourite white miniatures, which don't need introdudtion.
Snipe of course is a very good fertile parent variety, which I use extensively when I cross it with the cyclamineus species and other white fertile hybrid/seedlings.
Xit, no doubt is always a very good variety in any ones miniature cup class on the show bench, and not to forget the rock garden.
Cheers and enjoy.


 Bill, you have hit my favourite cyclamineus spot!! I think 'Snipe' is just stunning and yours are all standing so neatly in their box.... just perfection! Thanks!
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 07, 2009, 01:47:18 PM
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Bill, you have hit my favourite cyclamineus spot!! I think 'Snipe' is just stunning and yours are all standing so neatly in their box.... just perfection! Thanks!


Maggi, it has been mentioned by several members that you're very fond of chocolate and could be persuaded to do deals. OK, lets get down to some serious bargaining.
I'll send you a truckload of Cadbury creamy chocolate in return for a small favour, to be discussed privetly, none of the other members should know anyhing about it.
I'll even throw in a few cyclamineus Snipe for good measure.  ;D 8)
Mum's the word. :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2009, 02:09:37 PM
Strictly, Bill, as Global Moderator I should be as Ceasar's wife... above suspicion and all that....... but  what the heck...you're talking my language here.... bribe away.... I'll await your  choccy message!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on September 07, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
Maggi - how COULD you sell the Bulb Despot into slavery for a couple of cream eggs and some little yellowy-white blooms?   Ask for a bottle of something for the conference!!!   :o
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2009, 02:46:34 PM
Maggi - how COULD you sell the Bulb Despot into slavery for a couple of cream eggs and some little yellow blooms?   Ask for a bottle of something for the conference!!!   :o
Oh, Cliff, sometimes a girl's just gotta do...... etc! [attach=1]
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 07, 2009, 09:08:15 PM
Thanks Maggi, for the pictures. It's definite then, mine is aurea, not collina. Smooth as a baby's posterior. The second is showing the merest suggestion of chequering but still quite cream in colour. Few more days. For some reason there is also an erythronium in bud, in the same pot. ???
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 07, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
Bill, those 'Snipe' x cyclamineus hybrids are exquisite. I especially love the really spikey ones. Will you have some for sale in the reasonably near future? I'm now a paid up member of the oldies/wrinklies society and realize that time is flying rather quickly.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 07, 2009, 09:14:29 PM
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For some reason there is also an erythronium in bud, in the same pot.

 Gregarious little bulbs, bless 'em!  ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 07, 2009, 09:21:42 PM
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Bill, you have hit my favourite cyclamineus spot!! I think 'Snipe' is just stunning and yours are all standing so neatly in their box.... just perfection! Thanks!


Maggi, it has been mentioned by several members that you're very fond of chocolate and could be persuaded to do deals. OK, lets get down to some serious bargaining.
I'll send you a truckload of Cadbury creamy chocolate in return for a small favour, to be discussed privetly, none of the other members should know anyhing about it.
I'll even throw in a few cyclamineus Snipe for good measure.  ;D 8)
Mum's the word. :-X :-X :-X :-X

Bill

Do you not know who is IN the Cadbury egg?  By the time she emerges it will look like a Narcissus Bulb Fly has been at work.

johnw
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 07, 2009, 10:16:51 PM
Do you suggest Maggi is IN the egg? I would have expected the egg to be in Maggi. Which reminds me of a silly thing from my youth, which went...

"Algie met a bear, the bear met Algie.
The bear was bulgie, the bulge was Algie." :)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 08, 2009, 02:01:51 AM
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Bill, you have hit my favourite cyclamineus spot!! I think 'Snipe' is just stunning and yours are all standing so neatly in their box.... just perfection! Thanks!


Maggi, it has been mentioned by several members that you're very fond of chocolate and could be persuaded to do deals. OK, lets get down to some serious bargaining.
I'll send you a truckload of Cadbury creamy chocolate in return for a small favour, to be discussed privetly, none of the other members should know anyhing about it.
I'll even throw in a few cyclamineus Snipe for good measure.  ;D 8)
Mum's the word. :-X :-X :-X :-X

Bill

Do you not know who is IN the Cadbury egg?  By the time she emerges it will look like a Narcissus Bulb Fly has been at work.

johnw
Shock horror! Business news here mentions that Kraft is trying to take over Cadbury! That Creme Egg could turn out to be filled with peanut butter! :o
cheers
fermi
PS a belated welcome to the Forum, Bill. I've enjoyed your pics on the PBS site for years.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 08, 2009, 02:15:04 AM
Babiana pygmaea and Narcissus "Itzim"
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Tulipa aitchisonii v clusioides is now open,
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Lesley, a nice jonquil from the back
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but a fiercesome split cup from the front!
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Last Saturday I was at Otto's and took a couple of pics,
the "side garden"
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And a nice ?Richea - edit: no.... Dracophyllum
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cheers
fermi

Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 08, 2009, 05:49:23 AM
The Richea is a beauty. Wish these were in NZ and available. Are they easy from seed? I suspect not. :'(
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 08, 2009, 06:25:10 AM
I'm ashamed to show my Narcissus pics, having seen Bill's. This is another from the long grass, 'Sweet Pepper,' I think. In the flesh, the colours are a little richer, stronger, especially the red.

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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 08, 2009, 09:06:22 AM

Tulipa aitchisonii v clusioides is now open,
cheers
fermi




Looks gorgeous Fermi  :o - one that's going on my (too long) wanted list....  ::)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 08, 2009, 09:07:41 AM
This is another from the long grass, 'Sweet Pepper,' I think. In the flesh, the colours are a little richer, stronger, especially the red.

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That long grass of yours hides many treasures Lesley !  ;)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 08, 2009, 08:26:05 PM
Crikey, this is a lively forum, with everybody chiming in ,or adding their own banter to the fooling around.
No secrets here.
It's like a big family with Mother Hubbard in charge and pulling the strings, undeterred, and in the face of all the flack she received, we all love Maggi to bits, if that is physical possible ;D ;D
Anyway, one day, with enough chocolate supplied, she might be persuaded to slip the odd star in, unnoticed when nobody is looking. :) :)
I feel like a private soldier in the army, naked, amongst all those star-studded generals in the forum. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 08, 2009, 08:28:27 PM
Your time will come Bill, yourr time will surely come! ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 08, 2009, 08:33:25 PM
People, I implore you.... do NOT tell Bill that the stars only come in time.. and are not in my gift.... while he is in this blissful state of believing in my omnipotence, I can be on the receiving end of mega amounts of choc..... ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 08, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
 :-[ :-X :-*
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 08, 2009, 09:07:13 PM
Today two more pictures of N.Niade and N.Tinkerbell flowering at the moment.
Niade is a little beauty, a real miniature, would be very desirable in everybody's collection.
Not sure of its origen, can't even find any information in the Daffodil Register and Classifies List.
Could any (New Zealand) member ( Lesley?)perhaps supply some info or share some light on this miniature variety?
The lovely Tinkerbell of course was raised by our own very popular Mavis Verry, who also raised Trena and Tracey.
Not quite a mini, but still a welcome addition to a collection.
Enjoy,
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 08, 2009, 09:10:15 PM
Bill, these displays against the black background are very striking... and crystal clear... super daffs !!

It would just be downright churlish not to believe in the pretty Tinkerbell, wouldn't it? ;)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 08, 2009, 10:00:58 PM
Bill, I'm sorry I can't help with the origins of 'Niade.' It is certainly a delightful variety. Betty Clarke sometimes has a word to say on the Form and she is perhaps more likely than others to know something useful, or maybe Ross Spencer (Galahad here).

Would you please send me a copy of your new catalogue? I feel a large spend coming on. ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 09, 2009, 01:44:10 AM
Fermi posted this plant in my garden a few days ago as ? Richea  , but it is Dracophyllum
 secundum , related and also in the Epacridaceae .
 
 The other australian dwarf shrub in flower in my garden at the moment  is Tetratheca 
 subaphylla .
Otto.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 09, 2009, 02:03:16 AM
Lesley , the creamy-white N. cyclaminius hybrid came from Don Schofield's garden , as it has not got a name yet would you like to suggest one to Don ?

 N. 'Swagger' was bred by Rod Barwick in Tasmania,

           cheers  Otto.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 09, 2009, 09:00:17 AM
David, you have just given me a brilliant idea.
I just keep on posting smiley's to boost my tally of postings and more stars.
I am on to it now.
Hey presto, another posting down the drain
Cheers
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 09, 2009, 10:46:46 AM
very cool to see them en masse! are these all natural variations, or are there cultivars? are you producing these commercially, or just for fun?

Cohan, The Tecophilaea cyanocrocus's are the true species, whereas T.leichtlinii and violacea are varieties, and with hand-polination they usualy come true to colour from seed.
Yes I do sell them commercially in quantity, mainy to bigger bulb merchants in Holandor the USA.
How many thousands do want? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 09, 2009, 11:38:21 AM
Bill, those 'Snipe' x cyclamineus hybrids are exquisite. I especially love the really spikey ones. Will you have some for sale in the reasonably near future? I'm now a paid up member of the oldies/wrinklies society and realize that time is flying rather quickly.
Lesley, I wil send you a price-list when I get some more printed for the coming season, but the really spikey cyclamineus seedlings are very scarce, often only a very few, try me again perhaps next eason or in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 09, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
The first picture is a small seedling of N.Rufus X N.cyclamineus.
Not quite a miniature, but have crossed it again with a nicely shaped N.cyclamineus.
I believe the seedlings to be fertile, which look promising so far, and have produced seed last season.
Anyway, hopefully it's a good start towards a nicely coloured yellow/orange miniature?
The second picture is just another nicely formed cross between N.jonquilla and N.triandrus albus.
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 09, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
Daffy Duck: ( N.henriquesii X N.cyclamineus) this is one of our most recent and delightful introductons.
This beautiful multi-headed cylamineus type minature is vigorous and very floriferous.
Two often three lemon-yellow dainty shaped flowers and nicely scalloped corona, makes this a treaure for the rock garden, pots or showbench.
You may have already seen this picture on the daffnet or PBS, but will show it again for the members that have not  seen it before..
Enjoy
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: tonyg on September 09, 2009, 01:42:53 PM
Bill - many of us barely have time to log in to one forum.  I am sure that many of the viewers of your pics here will not have seen them before.  Thanks for sharing them!
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 09, 2009, 03:03:39 PM

Lovely photos Bill, especially like N.jonquilla and N.triandrus albus one - if you keep posting at this rate you will soon collect more gold stars - from the viewing ratings you emotions are proving amazingly popular - have you tried crossing them  ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: David Nicholson on September 09, 2009, 07:53:11 PM
I love 'em all Bill but your jonquilla triandrus albus cross is a real stormer.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 09, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
It's Rufus x cyclamineus for me please. Love that strong colour. Are you going to name it Bill?

Otto, I have the perfect name for Don's white cyclamineus, depending on whether those swept back ears are usually a bit lopsided as in your picture. I'd want them to be perfect, then I'll suggest to him, 'Bonnie Lesley.' ;D ;D ;D He and I both are of Scottish ancestry after all. :)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 09, 2009, 10:12:07 PM
David, you have just given me a brilliant idea.
I just keep on posting smiley's to boost my tally of postings and more stars.
I am on to it now.
Hey presto, another posting down the drain
Cheers

That's cheating, Bill.....much more of this and there'll be a chocolate fine...... ::)
Title: Re: Early Spring (with Crocuses) 2009, in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: cohan on September 09, 2009, 11:33:25 PM
very cool to see them en masse! are these all natural variations, or are there cultivars? are you producing these commercially, or just for fun?

Cohan, The Tecophilaea cyanocrocus's are the true species, whereas T.leichtlinii and violacea are varieties, and with hand-polination they usualy come true to colour from seed.
Yes I do sell them commercially in quantity, mainy to bigger bulb merchants in Holandor the USA.
How many thousands do want? ;D ;D

thousands?...lol..thanks for the info--very handy that the varieties come true from seed...
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 10, 2009, 11:24:05 AM
This odd little daff has opened in a large pot of Oxalis triangularis. Must have been there for 2 or 3 years but I've not noticed it before. One perant is very obviously N. bulb. citrinus, judging from the foliage and the shape of the corona but the other parent must be a little trumpet of some kind. I like it and will rescue it later and try to bulk it up a little for a patch in the garden.
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Frit tubiformis moggridgei seedling, which is less yellow than I expected but not so red as straight tubiformis. Two flowering stems from a single bulb is surely rare?
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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 10, 2009, 12:15:48 PM
These 3 flowers are more than I've had before on Trillium nivale. There would have been a fourth as well but it was misshapen and didn't develop properly. It has taken 12 years from the original bought plant to achieve this much.
Lesley, that is a nice picture of Trillium nivale, I am jalous and peeved off that I can't grow it, tried it for years with no luck, not an easy species to grow I believe. Try to collect some seed will ye, wouldn't mind having another go if you have a few seeds to spare, we could perhaps organise a little swap.
I have plenty of Trillium rivale, easily grown from seed (even old and dried up seed) but still a lovely little trllium.
Also flowering at the moment is another little treasure: T.pusillum var.ozarkanum.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 10, 2009, 01:09:01 PM
For a bit of a change, here are a couple of nicely coloured pink split-corona standard daffodils, photographed at the local Spring show. These butterfly daffies are very popular with the ladies for their floral art classes. 
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 10, 2009, 01:20:18 PM
Quote: "These butterfly daffies are very popular with the ladies for their floral art classes."

Bill, so perfectly damned!

You worried above about posting photographs which you had already posted elsewhere. I think we would hate to lose these photographs and are delighted to see such beauties. I'm with David above: the jonquilla x triandrus hybrid above is outstanding, a really beautiful bloom.

Paddy
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 10, 2009, 03:25:44 PM
A while ago Lesley mentioned Iris reticulata variety Katharine Hodgkin.
Just wondering through the garden, I found these little beauties in flower ;) ;)
Again when planted in big patches like that they make a magnifecient display.

Alas, I'll have to be honest and confess that I don't possess any of these charming little treasures .
These pictures were taken at a popular bulb garden show called "De Lentetuin" (Spring Garden), in Holland, when we went back home to the old country for a holiday last year.
This indoor garden show is organised by well known professional (mainly) bulb growers, to show of their produce and latest introductions, all beautifully displayed, an early forerunner of the famous Keukenhof gardens.
Has anyone been to te Keukenhof yet?
Perhaps, some of our dutch members, could tell us more about this colourful well organised show??
If anyone is interested in more pictures from this show, just let me know.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2009, 05:46:06 PM
Bill, you may be interested in these threads......
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3260.msg82950;topicseen#msg82950  
 = Keukenhof Gardens in Spring 2009

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3643.msg95780;topicseen#msg95780  
 = Peony Show at the  Keukenhof Castle 2009  

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1846.0 = Peony Show at the  Keukenhof Castle 2008
 
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Diane Clement on September 10, 2009, 06:03:40 PM
Quote: "These butterfly daffies are very popular with the ladies for their floral art classes."
Bill, so perfectly damned!  

I think Lesley will certainly damn them  ::)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
I am no lover of split -corona daffs, yet, when I see these perfect specimens so artfully photographed, I can see their appeal to some folks.
When I say "perfect" specimens, of course, I mean perfect -of their kind- which I believe to be inherently imperfect!  To my mind, a daff is a daff because it has a trumpet.... now, that may be a short trumpet or a long one, a narrow one or a wide one, but there must be a  a trumpet..... for me, the flattened face, however neat or prettily coloured is not a trumpet... therefore... not a daff!  ::)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 10, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
Quote: "These butterfly daffies are very popular with the ladies for their floral art classes."

Bill, so perfectly damned!

Paddy

Says it all really, doesn't it. Bout the daffs and the ladies. ???
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 10, 2009, 08:58:53 PM
Bill, I've had to work hard for my 3 T. nivale flowers. I bought the plant, a single nose with a flower, in the springtime, from Francie Herlund, way back when the NZAGS show was still held in the Hort Soc rooms, probably about 12 years ago now. It had been recently split off from a bigger plant and for the next two years didn't even show above the ground. Then it came up but didn't flower for another couple of years and since, I've had just single blooms, 2 last year and these 3 now. It has never set seed and I don't expect it to because I have no other clone for cross pollination but I'll let you know in due course.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 10, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
The massed little irises are stunning Bill but I have to admit to preferring a nifty little patch of 6 or 7 in a home garden situation. En masse like those, they seem to be grown just for a big splash of colour and the subtle markings are not noticed so easily nor their individual charms appreciated.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 10, 2009, 09:07:18 PM
A little hint for those who sell trilliums not grown from seed. NEVER offer plants which have been recently removed from a bigger plant. They rarely survive and even if they do, take several years before they begin to thrive. If you have to take them this way they should be grown on for at least a full year before being offered for sale. It is nothing short of cheating your customers to do otherwise.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2009, 07:38:23 AM
The first flower on Anemone pavonina surrounded by Ipheion uniflorum "Froyle Mill"
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Scilla bithynica
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Scilla melaina
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Ranunculus ficaria "Brambling"
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Tulipa bakeri "Lilac Wonder"
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And for Lesley: a Mertensia virginica which Tim grew from the seed you sent and which he gave me last wekend - it has survived nearly a week so far in my hands ;D - well, at least in our shade-house.
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 11, 2009, 01:55:22 PM
To my mind, a daff is a daff because it has a trumpet.... now, that may be a short trumpet or a long one, a narrow one or a wide one, but there must be a  a trumpet..... for me, the flattened face, however neat or prettily coloured is not a trumpet... therefore... not a daff!  ::)

Maggi, does that mean that the modern doulble daffodil without a trumpet don't qualify either?
In my humble opinion there should be room and acceptance for both divisions.
In today's world double features are almost invariably produced or hybridised in every genera.
When the first pink daffodil came on the scene, decades ago, some conservative folk from the old school condenmed them out of hand, claiming it didn't look like the traditional yellow daffodil.
Should a rose always be red? other colours like blue, yellow, white or bicolors are now popular as well.
Beauty after all is in the eye of the beholder etc.
Just my personal opinion.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
Absolutely, Bill, we are all entitled to our opinions and preferences.... but in the world of alpine plants there is a distinct leaning towards the "natural"  species look. It's what we do!  ::)

There is a reasonable argument for hybridising from the simple point of view of producing plants that are easier to grow...... and goodness knows, our gardens would be the poorer without those attempts.

When one's main focus is the diminutive  wild gems of the plant world the more exagerated forms can be a bit too much for us, that's all!  :D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 12, 2009, 01:18:59 PM
Absolutely, Bill, we are all entitled to our opinions and preferences.... but in the world of alpine plants there is a distinct leaning towards the "natural"  species look. It's what we do!  ::)

Maggi, I fully agree with you when it regards the natural species look, especially the petite alpines, including the  charming, native miniature narcissi species in the wild. I wouldn't want  to change that in any shape or form.
However, from a RHS Daffodil Show point of view and the intense competition associated with it (and I belong to that category as well) the older varieties like say King Alfred daffodil could not compete, and have been superseded by the improved and modern hybrid yellow trumpet in shape, size and quality, although this old variety is still one of my favourites.
I admit, that I am not true-blue alpine connoisseur in that sense(yet), and perhaps need education, but will benefit and learn a lot from you all on the finer points of this very interesting sometimes addictive alpine hobby.
Anyway, nothing like a good honest, constructive discussion on some of the subjects, and/or consider a few alternative options. Life would be boring without some excitement. Enough stirring for today. ;D ;D                         
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 12, 2009, 01:44:19 PM
OK lets get back to showing a few more daffies that are in flower at th moment.
The first picture is a double poeticus called Judy Cotter, a real charmer with a perfume to boot.
I think Lesley should know this lady which this variety was named after somewhere from the South Island?
The second picture is a collection of early N.poeticus seedlings, sparkling white perianth with the typical contrasting  pheasant eye. Would make a excellent addition for the (rock?) garden and show bench.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 12, 2009, 02:57:35 PM
Those Judy Cotter daffs bear more than a passing resemblence to double trillium flowers..... apart from the scent, of course ----  so good that many narcissus do seem to retain good fragrance in the newer, fancier varieties.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 12, 2009, 09:42:02 PM
Bill, I don't believe your opinion is humble, at all. ;D

I don't know a Judy Cotter. Used to know Eileen though. Knew Judy..? (can't remember her name but her mother is Mavis Hook. Don't think it was Cotter. ???)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 12, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
Maggi, thank you for your LOVELY card. As always it is a delight and I really appreciate it. I did nothing at all except what was a pleasure to do for you both. Any time.

With love.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 12, 2009, 09:51:51 PM
Fermi, I am deeply shocked and horrified at your picture of the Mertensia. Tim had told me his were flowering and I couldn't say I didn't believe him, but...... BECAUSE!!! mine from the same batch of seed have just started to germinate a couple of weeks ago!!! There were 3 or 4 when Tim emailed but there are 30ish now and already some are big enough to put into small pots. But I wonder why such a delay in mine? I sent a lot of that seed to various people and I've not heard from anyone except Tim, that there was germination. I hope there has been.

Anyway, I wish you well with it. It loves a cool, moist place and hates wind. Perhaps not the best description of Redesdale.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: arillady on September 13, 2009, 11:43:16 AM
Two views of the first flowers on Iris bicapitata ex BIS 2007/11 collected by Tony Willis in Gargano, Italy. 2006 seed donated by Harald Mathes and planted on 23.3.08. It seems it used to be lumped in with Iris lutescens according to a google search in Pacific bulbs website.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 13, 2009, 09:27:34 PM
That is really nice Pat and flowering so soon from seed sowing. I know AC in Argentina has this one too.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: arillady on September 14, 2009, 01:20:20 AM
Please remind me who AC is.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 14, 2009, 08:05:10 AM
Sorry Pat, I mean Alberto Castillo.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 14, 2009, 09:27:10 AM
The peony that dares not speak its name is in full bloom! ;D
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We call this Paeonia mascula ssp russii but others will disagree ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 14, 2009, 01:06:18 PM
A paeonia by any other name...

Paddy
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 15, 2009, 04:43:28 AM
Out today is a bulb of Fritillaria rhodokanakis, all yellow or perhaps more accurately, yellow/green, with no red on it at all. It hasn't flowered before but is one of a little group that has flowered in part for 3 or 4 years now. I'm hand pollinating, naturally. Two other bulbs will flower in a day or two.
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and inside it
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Here are the others in the patch, from last year. Not a lot of colour but some.
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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 15, 2009, 09:41:18 AM
Lovely frits, Lesley.
A few pics taken in haste this morning,
A deep yellow DB Iris just opening,
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A double Narcissus poeticus which is possibly a hybrid with a jonquil as this year a couple are "double headers"!
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And a single flowered Poet,
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The first flower on the tiny bearded iris, I. suavolens
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 15, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
I just love your first flowering little bearded iris, Fermi, I. suavolens....really furry looking and a lovely colour and altogether very cute  ;)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 15, 2009, 10:05:24 PM
Is the double poeticus scented Fermi? It looks like the one my mother used to hace but it flowered much later - November here and she always said it came from the Orkney Islands as a cultivated plant but had never been found in the wild (not that the Orkneys aren't wild  ;D). I've got 3 from Marcus this last summer in hope that they're the same thing.

Not a single bearded iris out yet but lots of buds.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 16, 2009, 02:36:04 AM
Lesley,
these are scented and remind me of gardenias in appearance so I think that clouds my memory of what they smell like! I'll try to get a sniff of them tonight.
Robin,
THis iris is absolutely tiny at about 5cm high! It came to me as I. attica but I think it's more likely to be I. suavolens.

These are the first flowers on Gagea fibrosa
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grown from seed sown 2 years ago - so they are still in their seedpot as is this cute little Anemone coronaria (Iraq) from seed from Goteborg.
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The wonderfully vibrant Bellevalia dubia
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Another DBI - "Knick Knack"
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 16, 2009, 05:21:55 AM
I have a pot of seedlings somewhere of Bellevalia dubia. Must go looking. It's that long grass again! ::) B. forniculata is almost out and should be worth a small picture in a couple of days.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 16, 2009, 05:29:55 AM
About 7 years ago I was given a nice plant of what was supposed to be Iris unguicularis 'Starker's Pink.' It has never flowered until today I found this first and rather mutilated flower (we've had terrible winds, both hot and cold, over this last week) and obviously it is not 'Starker's Pink' but I'm rather hoping it is cretensis which I've had from seed several times recently but always turning out NOT to be cretensis. Any opinions are welcome.
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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 16, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
A few interesting plants seen at the weekend at the spring show of the Ferny Creek Hort.     
 Society . A lot of the usual Daffodils , Camellias, Magnolias , shrubs and trees , tree Peonies  ,small bulbs , Alpines and Australian Native plants  : I thought the prostrate     
native Kennedia microphylla was delightful - the terra cotta brown pea flowers matching 
 the terra cotta pot .Also thought the new brown foliage of Epimedium wushanense exciting ,
   my contribution was the construction and planting  ( had to raid my garden ) of  the     
1.5 x1.5 crevice garden in the black raised box
   001(20) small australian plants by Kuranga Native Plant Nursery
 005(4) various Australian Epacris species in a small vase
 013 (4) Kennedia microphylla , unusual colour for a flower ,
 011 (7) Epimedium wushanense - spiny ,brown new foliage ,
 002(3) my crevice garden

Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 16, 2009, 01:51:17 PM
Thanks for sharing, Otto; wish I could see these things in person!

Yes, the Kennedia microphylla IS delightful  8)
The flower stem of Epimedium wushanense is sturdy and super foliage.... I like it.Heck, I like it ALL!
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: akoen on September 16, 2009, 07:41:33 PM
I also like it all. There are so many exciting flowers shown here.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Giles on September 16, 2009, 08:42:42 PM
I too like the Kennedia very much.
I found some good pictures of other species of this in Kew's Legumes of the World....... and a whole range of species is available from Chiltern Seeds
(as Kennedya)......I must resist, I must resist,I must resist.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: cohan on September 16, 2009, 11:44:05 PM
A few interesting plants seen at the weekend at the spring show of the Ferny Creek Hort.     
 Society . A lot of the usual Daffodils , Camellias, Magnolias , shrubs and trees , tree Peonies  ,small bulbs , Alpines and Australian Native plants  : I thought the prostrate     
native Kennedia microphylla was delightful - the terra cotta brown pea flowers matching 
 the terra cotta pot .Also thought the new brown foliage of Epimedium wushanense exciting ,
   my contribution was the construction and planting  ( had to raid my garden ) of  the     
1.5 x1.5 crevice garden in the black raised box
   001(20) small australian plants by Kuranga Native Plant Nursery
 005(4) various Australian Epacris species in a small vase
 013 (4) Kennedia microphylla , unusual colour for a flower ,
 011 (7) Epimedium wushanense - spiny ,brown new foliage ,
 002(3) my crevice garden


looks like a nice show! i agree with the others, the Kennedia and Epimedium are both very nice in  colour and form..
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: arillady on September 17, 2009, 12:22:38 AM
Might be a silly question Otto but how did you set up your crevice garden there as I would hate to transport it up your driveway without slipping.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 18, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
Lachenalia:this is a large genus of South African bulbous plants with attractive pendulous, rather waxy tubular or bell-shaped flowers on rather stiff spikes.They flower in spring or early smmer,but unfortunately none are hardy, but can be grown in a cool greenhouse without the frost.
Lach.aloides, more often known as L.tricolor, very variable and the most popular and colourful of the genus.
Lach,aloides var.vanzyliae: a most unusual coloured variety, lustrous white flowers flushed at the base with pale blue andgreen at the tips.
Lach.elegans:this variable coloured species can be pale blue, pink, white or yellow or combination of colours.
Lach.viridiflora: this strikingly beatiful species, with flowers in various shades of greenish blue.
In gardens they are particularly  efective when planted in clumps, most prefer full sun but a few do well in partial shade.
Generally they require well-drained soil, ideal for pot or container display.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ashley on September 18, 2009, 01:30:34 PM
Magnificent lachenalias Bill, and so well grown 8)
Could you tell us in general terms how you manage them?

Unfortunately I struggle with this genus so am now trying to raise a few species from seed in hope of selectng plants more tolerant of my growing conditions.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: WimB on September 18, 2009, 04:33:32 PM
Bill,

very nice lachenalia. I had heard of the genus but I had never paid much attention to them untill now, those colours are very striking.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: cohan on September 18, 2009, 06:15:41 PM
Lachenalia:this is a large genus of South African bulbous plants with attractive pendulous, rather waxy tubular or bell-shaped flowers on rather stiff spikes.They flower in spring or early smmer,but unfortunately none are hardy, but can be grown in a cool greenhouse without the frost.
Lach.aloides, more often known as L.tricolor, very variable and the most popular and colourful of the genus.
Lach,aloides var.vanzyliae: a most unusual coloured variety, lustrous white flowers flushed at the base with pale blue andgreen at the tips.
Lach.elegans:this variable coloured species can be pale blue, pink, white or yellow or combination of colours.
Lach.viridiflora: this strikingly beatiful species, with flowers in various shades of greenish blue.
In gardens they are particularly  efective when planted in clumps, most prefer full sun but a few do well in partial shade.
Generally they require well-drained soil, ideal for pot or container display.

very nice, bill! i've been admiring this genus for a while, some nice flowers, and also some nice markings on the leaves, and others with hairy leaves etc
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 19, 2009, 12:05:03 PM
Magnificent lachenalias Bill, and so well grown 8)
Could you tell us in general terms how you manage them?

Ashley,as mentioned before, most of the Lachenalia's come from the Cape province, growing during winter and dormant for a long dry period in summer.
They are particularly suitable for milder climates, although many species are specialist plants with difficult requirements.
They love full sun and generally require a well-drained, (ideally) a sandy based soil, with containers or pots more pumice or sand added
would be recommended.
Growing in containers it is important that when they finish flowering, bulbs must be dried off and stored almost bonedry in a cool and dry location.
Lachenalia's hate wet feet when dormant and often rot when these cultural requirements of drying off are not met.
Fresh seed germinates eaily if sown into a sandy mix as soon as it is ripe.
Some species can also be propagated by leaf cuttings or by splitting the bulbs at their base.
Hope this has been helpful.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 19, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
Another couple of South African bulbs flowering at the moment.
Lapeirousia oreogena produces an abundance of tiny dark and whie flowers in early spring, and are quite stunning on a sunny day.
Laperousia silenoides is a small difficult species which needs sand or sandy soil, it has brilliant rosy red flowers and the bulbs need a good summer baking to perform properly.
Excellent for pots or containers on benches, which then can be admired from close-up.
 
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 20, 2009, 10:49:54 AM
Could anyone please identify these two Trillium species please, flowering in the nursery now, but lost the names. Thanks.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ashley on September 20, 2009, 10:56:09 AM
... Hope this has been helpful. 

Yes indeed.  Thanks very much Bill.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: WimB on September 20, 2009, 12:42:30 PM
Bill,

They look like Trillium sessile and Trillium vaseyi respectively but there are specialists enough on this forum who can give a better ID
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Rogan on September 21, 2009, 10:53:16 AM
What's happened to PaulT? Did I miss a comment about him somewhere?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: David Nicholson on September 21, 2009, 08:21:18 PM
Paul is well, just taking a rest from the computer.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 21, 2009, 08:28:52 PM
Bill,

They look like Trillium sessile and Trillium vaseyi respectively but there are specialists enough on this forum who can give a better ID

Thanks very much Wim, I am pretty sure your ID is correct. Always satisfying to have the right name for the righ plant.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 21, 2009, 09:01:07 PM
What's happened to PaulT? Did I miss a comment about him somewhere?

Yes I am also looking forward to renewing our acquaintance with the old enemies again from accross the ditch  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 21, 2009, 09:45:12 PM
Are you in touch with him David? I hope it's just pressure of work and that he's not sick again.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on September 22, 2009, 09:03:27 AM
Hi folks,

It's been a while since I spent any time here for various reasons but it's good to see Bill is waving the flag for those of us in the North Island of NZ.

A few things are flowering here at the moment so I'll try and upload some photos as time permits.

And when I can remember how...  ???

Andrew.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on September 22, 2009, 09:10:12 AM
Arum apulum

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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on September 22, 2009, 09:11:32 AM
Arum orientale sintenisii
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on September 22, 2009, 09:16:10 AM
Arum purpureospathum
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on September 22, 2009, 09:17:57 AM
Anomatheca (Freesia) laxa - Blue
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on September 22, 2009, 09:21:10 AM
Folks,

So, not the best photos ever but I promise to try harder.  :)

Andrew.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: kiwi on September 22, 2009, 09:23:32 AM
Nice Arums Andrew, you got to love em.
A few shots from the NZAGS show....
Trillium chloropetalum.
Podophyllum "kalidescope".
The natives table.
The Frit table.
Hippeastrum papilio.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 22, 2009, 11:35:55 AM
How exciting to see the plaNTS WAKING UP SO WELL ALL THOSE MILES FROM HERE, WHERE AUTUMN IS FAST UPON US!
THE sHOW LOOKS TERRIFIC- thanks for sharing!!  (Sorry about caps lock error!!)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: David Nicholson on September 22, 2009, 08:41:12 PM
Are you in touch with him David? I hope it's just pressure of work and that he's not sick again.

Lesley, he says he is well, just been spending too much time on the computer.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 22, 2009, 09:50:53 PM
Andrew, forgive me that I forgot about you when I welcomed Bill to the Forum as our first North Islander.
Edna Parkyn, whom I'm sure you'll know, had some good Arums for sale at the NZAGS show at the weekend. I bought a couple and will get more gradually.

Doug, it was nice to meet you, though so briefly. I don't think your pic on the side of your posts does you credit. :)

I have a few pics from the show as well when I get them sorted. The Dysosmas were incredible. Shows what plenty water and shade can do, compared with mine in a hot, dry garden. :'(
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 22, 2009, 10:32:40 PM
Here are a few from the weekend's NZAGS spring show. I couldn't go up on the Saturday because of work but made the 5 hour trip early Sunday, spend 4 hours there and another 5 hours drive home. A tiring day but great to see so many old friends and of course buy plants at the various stalls. I hope to be there with a stall again, next year.

Beesia deltiphylla. I wanted to get a good picture of this as I have young seedlings but it was impossible with the position of the plant.
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Hokonui Alpines (Louise Salmond) had superb show plants as always and this was a Claytonia whose name I forgot to write down.
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Louise's Iris sari won the Gala Plants (my) trophy for best bulbous plant in show (including corms, rhizomes, tubers).

As I mentioned above, the Dysosmas (Podophyllums) were outstanding. 'Kaleidoscope' was so tall I couldn't get high enough to photograph it properly. Great for people to hide behind. :)
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Lewisia tweedyi alba was a wonderful potful. I like the white as well as (or even better than) the coloured forms.
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And I have to repeat Doug's pic of the magnificent Hippestrum papilio. Not, honestly, my kind of thing but you can't ignore it.
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click the pictures to enlarge them!
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 22, 2009, 10:47:12 PM
A final 5 pictures.
Oxalis triangularis which is MUCH darker than in the pic. I just can't get the right depth of colour. I feel this plant should be marketed as 'D'arth Vader' or maybe 'Stealth Bomber.' :)
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Trillium chloropetalum in a pale yellow form.
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A beautiful white Calanthe species. I thought this was C. aristata but it had a different name.
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And 2 pics of a lovely Narcissus hybrid. The parents were not given but at a wild guess I'd say that triandrus and bulbocodium citrinus were involved.
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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 22, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
Lesley, you are tougher than we are.... we'd not dream of a day like that with so much driving. :o
I suppose we are getting wimpish! I admire your tenacity to achieve such a trip..........just glad you do not seem to be suffering as a result.

While  there are many good plants to be seen....who could resist the Trillium and Dysosmas?  My favourite so far has to be that cute narcissus... I rather like that longish "nose"  set at an angle.... looks like a wee donkey face  :D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 22, 2009, 11:16:20 PM
Wouldn't say I'm not suffering Maggi. I'm very tired this morning but it is also partly as a result of what's happening in a new thread I'm about to start.



edit by maggi: follow this link to find out what Lesley is up to!  ;D
 http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4216.new#new  
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 23, 2009, 12:38:58 AM
Nice pale yellow Trillium Lesley. Looks like Vulcano, would you say?

Seems like there are a few yellow chlorpetalums getting around in NZ.

Cheers
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: cohan on September 23, 2009, 06:30:41 AM
wow, lesley, that's a long day indeed!
really nice claytonia, among others...
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 23, 2009, 09:50:47 AM
made the 5 hour trip early Sunday, spend 4 hours there and another 5 hours drive home.

.... mmm I know the feeling Lesley !  this is what Channel hoppers do all the time...  ;D

Thanks for showing these !!  I like the L. tweedyi alba just as much as you do.  :D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 23, 2009, 09:54:05 AM
Nice Arums Andrew, you got to love em.
A few shots from the NZAGS show....
Trillium chloropetalum.
Podophyllum "kalidescope".
The natives table.
The Frit table.
Hippeastrum papilio.

Welcome onboard Andrew and Doug, it's good to hear from you again, every posting is welcome.
Looks like an all New Zealand affair this week, keep up the good work boys.
I think the Wallebies are still recovering from the rugby hiding they got from the All Blacks last Saterday  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 23, 2009, 10:45:22 AM
OK, lets get on with posting a few more Frits.
I am not an authority on the Fritillaria's, and I am not sure if all the Frits are correctly named.
I keep losing and adding to the Frit collection, with some names getting mixed up.
Please.. feel free (Lesley, Maggi? :-* :-* :-*) to correct, and add the proper ID, and please let me know :-\ :-\ :-\    
Fritillaria species,
Fritillaria affinis,
Fritillaria Cheron,
Fritillaria pontica,
Fritillaria conica.
Look forward to your reply.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 23, 2009, 10:58:29 AM
Just a few more Frits that are or have been flowering the last few days.
Frit.ehrhartii,
Frit.pudica or conica,
Frit.davisii,
Frit.messanensis,
Frit.rhodokanakis.
Thanks for correcting the names.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 23, 2009, 11:18:48 AM
Wouldn't say I'm not suffering Maggi. I'm very tired this morning but it is also partly as a result of what's happening in a new thread I'm about to start.

edit by maggi: follow this link to find out what Lesley is up to!  ;D
 http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4216.new#new  

Lesley, good luck with your reorganising/reinventing your nursery.
When you finish, you can give me a hand cleaning up our nursery. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 23, 2009, 11:31:11 AM
Oxalis triangularis which is MUCH darker than in the pic. I just can't get the right depth of colour. I feel this plant should be marketed as 'D'arth Vader' or maybe 'Stealth Bomber.' :)

And 2 pics of a lovely Narcissus hybrid. The parents were not given but at a wild guess I'd say that triandrus and bulbocodium citrinus were involved.
Very nice Narcissus hybrid Lesley, I love those little treasures.
Have just taken an picture of Ox.triangularis this afternoon, foliages looks as though someone has been busy with the scissors.
Talking about D'arth Vader, what about the DBI called "Dark Vader" or "Coal Bucket" flowering at the moment in the rain.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 23, 2009, 11:37:56 AM
Oxalis triangularis which is MUCH darker than in the pic. I just can't get the right depth of colour. I feel this plant should be marketed as 'D'arth Vader' or maybe 'Stealth Bomber.' :)

And 2 pics of a lovely Narcissus hybrid. The parents were not given but at a wild guess I'd say that triandrus and bulbocodium citrinus were involved.
Very nice Narcissus hybrid Lesley, I love those little treasures.
Have just taken an picture of Ox.triangularis this afternoon, foliages looks as though someone has been busy with the scissors.
Talking about D'arth Vader, what about the DBI called "Dark Vader" or "Coal Bucket" flowering at the moment in the rain.
It would help to include the pictures  :o :'( ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 23, 2009, 04:03:16 PM
By jove, it's as well that these DBI are not sold as cut flowers.... imagine the scenario..... "I'm home , dear and I've brought you a lovely bunch of Coal Bucket for your birthday"....... :P :-X
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: fleurbleue on September 23, 2009, 05:42:47 PM
Wouah Bill  :o What wonderful colors for Iris  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 23, 2009, 07:05:08 PM
I love this plant it does have such character and springs up each year with an amazing display of leaves - I was once told you should lay it on it's side in winter and keep it dry then water it gently in the Spring is this what you would recommend Bill?  I have given 'a baby' of Oxalis triangularis to my daughter as she loves it too - it always is commented on by friends.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
One little detail Bill. We NEVER mention the rugby on the Forum. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Stephen, I doubt if the pale yellow trillium is a named one. There are a lot of more or less yellows around, all seedlings and I'm not aware of any named except Val Mulvihill's incredible plant. Certainly none are distributed with names, so far as I know.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 09:34:31 PM
Robin, the oxalis is quite tough and hardy here but in your very different climate may need protection from winter wetness. Snow cover should be OK I would think. Funnily enough, the only one of the weldenias which have been distributed from my nursery, about 200 now I think, to be lost in the winter, was at the nursery of one of the best growers in NZ. He had it in a big clay pot and put it on its side for the winter to keep excess water off. A nursery staff member concerned that a pot had fallen over, put it upright, but under a drip from leaky spouting. Goodbye Weldenia.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Most of the frits look OK Bill. I'm not sure of the first as it looks like camtschcensis but it's way too early for that. I think the pudica may be conica and I'm not sure about the davisii but.....I'm no expert either. :)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 10:18:25 PM
Frit. 'Charon' is, of course, a named form of F. meleagris but unless it has come into NZ as tissue cultured stock from Holland, it is most likely to be a seedling, in which case, can't be called by the cultivar name. I see little point in giving such names to plants which are raised from seed for the most part.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 11:48:33 PM
These 3 little irises are among the many I bought this last summer. In succession they are 'Orange Surprise,' 'April Flirt' and 'Orchid Flair' but I think OF is wrongly named. It looks exactly like what I have as 'Blue Beret' and I think that is wrongly named too. When I had OF years ago, it was a bright, rosy lilac shade.

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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 23, 2009, 11:51:34 PM
Three frits out recently are sibthorpiana, davisii and bithynica.

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Bill, is your first one there F. biflora by any chance?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 24, 2009, 05:19:37 AM
Bill, is your first one there F. biflora by any chance?

Yes you could be right Lesley: Frit.biflora (the chocolate lily) also known as Fritillaria roderickii is a disputed name for a plant that is also sometimes referred to as Fritillaria grayana and was sunk in the Jepson Manual into Fritillaria biflora var. biflora. This variable plant is still known as Fritillaria roderickii by the state of California where it is listed as endangered and was last found in Mendocino County. The coastal population which some people thought different from the inland population may be gone. These plants were grown from seed from some of those last coastal populations. Wayne Roderick sent bulbs to the Dutch who have tissue cultured this plant and sell it as Fritillaria 'Martha Roderick'.
It differs from Fritillaria biflora in that it forms rice grains around the bulbs and F. biflora does not usually increase vegetatively.

If you want to have a look at some of those variable F.biflora var.biflora photos, go to this CallPhotos link:
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/img_query?rel-taxon=contains&where-taxon=Fritillaria+biflora&where-anno=1
In the meantime I will stick with Frit.biflora var. biflora.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 24, 2009, 06:05:48 AM
Stephen, I doubt if the pale yellow trillium is a named one. There are a lot of more or less yellows around, all seedlings and I'm not aware of any named except Val Mulvihill's incredible plant. Certainly none are distributed with names, so far as I know.

Yes I agree, Val Mulvihill's beautiful Trillium chloropetalum is an fabulous plant.
We had the pleasure to meet Val again, and show her around our nursery, when she came to Taurangs to visit a good friend in the Mount. Look forward meeting her again when next time we come down to the South Island for a holiday.
Don't forget the magnificient Trillium luteum just starting to flower for us here up north.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 24, 2009, 12:20:04 PM
Rob , in case you can't obtain any bulbs in England , I could send you a few each of cyanocrocus , var. violacea and var. leichtlinii . They will go dormant soon , so I could send them to you then- however you will have the problem to adjust them to the Northen Hemisphere growths cycle. Otto.

Rob , Iwill send you the promised bulbs after Christmas , when they they have gone dormant .,please let me have your address in due time .
I do not need anything in exchange , but , should you ever have a few seeds to spare of :
any Ophrys species, also of Galanthus koenenianus , platyphyllus and krasnovii, these would be most welcome,     Otto.

Hi Otto,(or Rob) In the forum "Bulb wanted" last year, I came accross this posting about your generous offer of Tecophilaeas to Rob.
Could you please tell us how Rob got on with acclimatising the Tecophilaea's, how did he manage and was he succesful?
Would be interesting to hear from other members, how they manage to adjust/turn around bulbs to the hemispheres in question?
Look forward to hearing from other members experiences.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 24, 2009, 09:56:22 PM
There are various schools of thought on this tricky subject Bill. I subscribe to the "plant them and hope for the best" school while others refrigerate, dry early or do other things to encourage the bulbs to turn their seasons. In my experience, refrigerating for a period may well bring the bulbs up at the right time for the new hemisphere but the period without growth has so weakened them that they seldom thrive thereafter, often dying in fact, when they first die down. It happens time and time again with importations of Dutch Iris reticulata vars, especially I. danfordiae.

To my mind it is better to pot the bulbs when received and let them grow out of season until they die down in their own time and they will usually come through again at the "right" time.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 25, 2009, 11:35:07 AM
Fantastic photos Bill and everyone else who has posted as well.  Decided I couldn't hold out any longer and came back to the forum today.  This is the first main topic I've looked at.  Bill, your pics are stunning as always.  I wish I could get my Tecophilaeas to do well.  ::)  And that beautiful yellow Trillium of Val's is glorious.  I've seen it here before, and it is so striking.  I've got all sorts of things flowering here, but after seeing the pics throughout this topic already, I'd be embarrassed to post any of mine.  Some crackers of plants here everyone.  Very, very cool.  8)

Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 25, 2009, 01:08:55 PM
Welcome back Paul !!   :D
We all missed you badly !  ;)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 25, 2009, 01:13:28 PM
Yeah right.  You guys would have all enjoyed the peace and quiet for a change. ;)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 25, 2009, 01:18:48 PM
 :-X :-X :-X ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 25, 2009, 02:16:02 PM
Yeah right.  You guys would have all enjoyed the peace and quiet for a change. ;)

No, no, Paul - far too quiet fro me  ;D  Your presence was greatly missed, your photos and comments, so welcome back!  I have to have a daily dose on the Forum to keep my mind nimble in the mountains or I'd be well and truly lost   :o
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: kiwi on September 26, 2009, 07:45:39 AM
A few more new flowers,
Fritillaria meleagris, Frit pontica, Arisaema sikokianum.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 26, 2009, 11:12:14 AM
Nice Arisaema Doug and the Lachenalia isn't half bad either.

The following are close ups of a number of Trillium chloro/hybrids flowering here currently as well as other sps named .

Guess you'll all be sick of the genera by the time i have finished posting   ;D

Cheers dave.


T. chloropetalum/ hybs
T kurabayashii bronze
T. ludovicianum
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 26, 2009, 11:19:09 AM
Some more  ;)

Cheers Dave

Very large T. Rivale with normal rivale beside it for comparison

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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 26, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
More
(another pic of IMG 1238 just above---with comment)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 26, 2009, 11:27:56 AM
That's it . :)

Cheers dave


T.kurabayashii maroon
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 26, 2009, 11:34:39 AM
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Guess you'll all be sick of the genera by the time i have finished posting

I seriously doubt that, t00lie! Good to see your Trillium season is going so well  8)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 26, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
Dave,

Striking colours to the chloropetalums.  Wish I had all of them growing here.  ;D  I just traded a couple of albidum hybrids (one white with a purple base, the other a pinky mauve) with a friend for a nice pot of T. luteum in flower.  Nowhere near as strong a yellow as those chloropetalums of yours though.  Would love to find a good yellow, and some nice deep pure pinks, and some lovely blacks.... and the list goes on.  Still, I have seed down from various things, including some lovely postings from people here on the forums, so fingers crossed quite heavily!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 26, 2009, 11:51:27 AM
Thanks Maggie

A number of the eastern USA sps are just coming into bud so there will be more to follow. ;)


Paul

Most of the chloro/hybrids i raised from seed so i'm sure you'll end up with some nice variations --

I understand the nice plain yellow that i saw today germinated from that persons home mixed seed of purple and of white.

Cheers dave.

 
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 26, 2009, 12:08:14 PM
Dave,

Not sure how many of mine are actually chloropetalum hybrids, but then who knows!!?  Here, I have the aforementioned luteum flowering, as well as rivale, cuneatum (burgundy fl.), albidum, my albidum hybrid seedlings (flowers so far either pure white, white with dark throat, or a couple of shades of pinky mauve) and another one with finer leaves and dark flowers, whose name escapes me right now.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 26, 2009, 12:10:55 PM
For a bit of a change, the beautiful Convallaria majalis: the lily of the valley, a well-known favourite perennnial for the ladies.
It does better in a colder spot, flowering more freely after an hard cold winter.
The flowers are much prized for their charming and delicate fragrance, my wife's favourite choice.
I always pick her a nice boquet, just to please her, or sometimes if I am in the dog box, for no apparent reason.
Anyway, on this occasion, I have been a good boy, and think I've got it made tonight: ;) ;) ;)
roast lamb,baked potatoes in rich gravy,minted peas and jams, and apple crumble and ice cream for desert.
Just one minute,  >:( >:( >:(what else did you boys think of ??  :o :o :o
And no wise cracks either you guys, you have poor Maggi and Lesley blushing, embarrassed and being ashamed of you boys.
Have a great weekend.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 26, 2009, 12:22:21 PM
Bill,

You're ahead of us, that is for sure.  Our LOTV are about 2 inches tall here at the moment, although the pink version is much more advanced.  That reminds me.... I must check on the variegated and see how it is going.

And a belated WELCOME to our fine forum.  Wonderful to have you with us, and all your wonderful photos of course.  Nice to meet up with you in yet another place.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 26, 2009, 12:29:25 PM
The following are close ups of a number of Trillium chloro/hybrids flowering here currently as well as other sps named .
Guess you'll all be sick of the genera by the time i have finished posting   ;D
Cheers dave.

Dave, good to hear from you again, all the way from the deep south.
We use to live in In'gill for 20 years on Watt Road, we still have many friends and fond memories of the place.

Do they still have a Spring flower show in In'gill and Otatara ?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 26, 2009, 01:32:43 PM
And a belated WELCOME to our fine forum.  Wonderful to have you with us, and all your wonderful photos of course.  Nice to meet up with you in yet another place.  ;D ;D

Thanks Paul, it's good to be onboard.
How's the old ABA getting on nowadays?
Must have a look at it sometimes.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 26, 2009, 02:18:32 PM
Here are a few colourful species of the genus Moraea. The flowers are often large and brilliantly coloured and individual flowers can last from only a few hours, to several days, but each stem carries a large number at any one time for many weeks
They prefer a warm, sunny position and good drainage.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 26, 2009, 03:24:07 PM
The colour combinations of these Moraea are so unusual - I find them intriguing like exotic birds  8)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 26, 2009, 08:37:54 PM
Stunning Moraeas Bill. Such vibrant colours and lovely markings. Don't forget I want a bulb list. :)

Dave, do you really LIKE that Image 1238? Can't say I do. It reminds me strongly of myself recently when I had an allergic reaction to a new drug. Full body spotting and splotching (except, for some reason, but mercifully, on my face). Thank God it is apparently NOT stable, season to season. 8)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 26, 2009, 11:55:15 PM

Dave, good to hear from you again, all the way from the deep south.
We use to live in In'gill for 20 years on Watt Road, we still have many friends and fond memories of the place.

Do they still have a Spring flower show in In'gill and Otatara ?
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Hello Bill
How's tricks.

Not sure about a spring show in Invercargill  or out here in Otatara --the Winton Garden Club are still going strong ---Their spring show is next weekend followed by our local alpine garden club show the weekend after .

Lesley
I wish you hadn't mentioned that --i'll never be able to view Trillium 1238 again without thinking of your medical misadventure  :P

there is an old saying 'one mans rubbish is another mans treasure'. ;)
It will be interesting however to see what coloured seedlings it produces.

A couple more pics

Firstly the darkest Trillium chloro i have ---showing a bit of Octave spray residue.

Followed by T.ovatum hibbersonii --In the garden it never lasts for me longer than a season--i was given this seedling at last years Trillium weekend --kept in a pot under cover during the winter with just a little watering it is flowering although i see a deterioration in one of the leaves......


Cheers dave.

  
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 27, 2009, 01:05:59 AM
Bill,

The Moraeas are stunning!!  I love that stripey form of villosa you pictured, very different to the ones I have (although obviously the same thing).  And both the orange ones are gorgeous..... something I must track down one of these years as the tulbaghensis in particular is such a great colour!!

Lovely almost black Trillium Dave!  Good luck with the hibbersonii.  Is it one of the species that needs the soil amendments to keep it going?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 27, 2009, 11:19:48 AM
Ipheion: this is a South American genus of small bulbs that are extremely free-flowering and almost evergreeen.
Most are suitable for containers or rock gardens, and the upward facing starry flowers are usually carried one per stem.
The two yellow species here are Ipheion sellowianum and Ipheion dialystemon.
I.sellowianum from Uruguay is a brightly coloured species which produces masses of yellow flowers over a long period in winter and spring. It has bright green leaves and is very good for pots or containers.
I.dialystemon from Argentina is an another uncommon yellow-flowered species which can carry up to two flowers per stem.
Ipheion "Froyle Mill" "Wisley Blue" and "Album" are three other named varieties, for the next future posting.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 27, 2009, 11:36:16 AM
This Trillium chloropetalum with the yellow tips has been flowering like this for a number of years.
Just another selection from a batch of seedlings.
What do you think of this ugly duckling Lesley? is this a common occurence?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 27, 2009, 11:59:07 AM
Well I like it, Bill.  Nice combination.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 27, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
I've never seen one like it before Bill. Not sure if I like it or not. Might be interesting once it clumps up.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 28, 2009, 08:07:34 AM
Not excactly the bulbous type, but very colourful (pot)plants this time of the season.
The Clivia's plants are easily grown, preferring semi-shade and thriving to perfection under the shade of trees where they form strong clumps.
The modern Clivia nowadays can produce hybrids in many colours, shapes and sizes for show or garden as can be seen with these pictures.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: t00lie on September 28, 2009, 08:26:06 AM
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author=Paul T

  Good luck with the hibbersonii.  Is it one of the species that needs the soil amendments to keep it going?
Hello Paul

Not sure --- Currently i have it growing in a potting mix made up of equal volume of peat, bark and grit ---  I think my previous problems may have been with too much summer moisture and in too sheltered a position , (minimal air movement).

Cheers dave.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 28, 2009, 09:02:40 AM
Here's a sweet little Aussie daisy which has the appalling appellation Hyalosperma praecox
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Another Aussie, Orthrosanthus laxus:
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A well named DBI "Facepaint"
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Muscari mcbeathianum
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And a well flowered Cyclamen persicum grown from Seedex as "ex Israel"
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cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 28, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
Just a few more miniature daffies that flowered during the last fortnight.
The daffodil season is slowly coming to an end, here up the North Island.
It has been raining up here for a few days now and more to come, that spoiled a lot of flowers.

 Narcissus Fairy Chimes
 N.Angels Whispers
 N.Pencrebar
 N.Dainty Monique
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 28, 2009, 09:44:40 AM
Beautifully presented and gorgeous miniatures Bill, thanks for sharing them.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 28, 2009, 09:51:40 AM
These Arum creticum from Crete with their soft yellow and sweetly scented flowers always make a nice splash of colour in the garden
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 28, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
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Beautifully presented and gorgeous miniatures
Here, here, each vase shows the flowers off to perfection with the black background - really lovely miniatures - Angel Whispers is heavenly  ;)
Is it available to buy commercially Bill?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 28, 2009, 10:13:34 AM
Beautifully presented and gorgeous miniatures Bill, thanks for sharing them.

Thanks Brian, I get as much pleasure from showing them, nice to be appreciated, and hope everyone will enjoy them as well.  
BTW: can someone tell me how to get gif. annimations in the postings please?
Thanks.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 28, 2009, 10:56:27 AM
Beautifully presented and gorgeous miniatures Bill, thanks for sharing them.

Thanks Brian, I get as much pleasure from showing them, nice to be appreciated, and hope everyone will enjoy them as well.  
BTW: can someone tell me how to get gif. annimations in the postings please?
Thanks.

Bill, your photos are a delight, thanks.  8)

Now, to get gif animations in a post, just use the method for putting images in the text of a post with the minor change that you use, in square brackets, of course.... the (attach=1) or 2 or 3etc... and then add the gif from the Browse attachment button below.
 [attach=1]  :D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 28, 2009, 11:29:32 AM
Is it available to buy commercially Bill?

Hi Robin, unfortunately, I have not been able to export any bulbs for the last few years.
Our beloved MAF (Ministry of Agriculture and Forrest) (and  sometimes for good reasons) makes it almost impossible and very expensive to export.
Apart from the excessive charges for the Phyto Sanitary Certificate and compolsory soil test in our nursery and other related charges, not to forget the stacks of official forms we have to fill in, rules and regulations to adhere to, no end of hassles.
New Zealand (and perhaps Australia)  is one of the most difficult (and some people might even suggest bureaucratic regulated)
country when it comes to import and exporting plants and bulbs.
Just ask Lesley and other growers what our MAF is like?
And don't forget the expensive shipping by air and the little matter of getting the bulbs acclimatised.
Miniature bulbs are small and difficult to turn around.
Al in all to much problems/hassles and bureaucracy, expensive and unfortunately not worth the worry and effort.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 28, 2009, 12:21:32 PM
Now, to get gif animations in a post, just use the method for putting images in the text of a post with the minor change that you use, in square brackets, of course.... the (attach=1) or 2 or 3etc... and then add the gif from the Browse attachment button below.

Thanks Maggi, will try, as always, very helpful, what would we do without you   :) :) :)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 28, 2009, 12:54:22 PM
Bill, thanks for your detailed explanation - I have become aware of the difficulties you have importing and exporting from the SH - will just have to continue to admire your minis on the Forum - it makes them more special anyway  ;) 
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on September 28, 2009, 01:03:39 PM

Thanks Maggi, will try, as always, very helpful, what would we do without you   :) :) :)
I dunno, Bill! I just hope we never have to find out!  ;)
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paddy Tobin on September 28, 2009, 01:25:58 PM
Wow, Bill!

The Arum creticum are fantastic, stunning beautiful and photographed so well against the dark background to show off the yellow spathes. Brilliant!

Paddy
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: cohan on September 28, 2009, 06:10:32 PM
These Arum creticum from Crete with their soft yellow and sweetly scented flowers always make a nice splash of colour in the garden

i'm with paddy--this one is a killer! and beautifully photographed..
how large is it? can't tell from the shot..
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: cohan on September 28, 2009, 06:24:09 PM
Hi Robin, unfortunately, I have not been able to export any bulbs for the last few years.
Our beloved MAF (Ministry of Agriculture and Forrest) (and  sometimes for good reasons) makes it almost impossible and very expensive to export.

i understand countries making it difficult to import debates over how it's all handled aside, there are reasons.. but making it difficult to export? i thought most countries would like to encourage national businesses to export to enhance the balance of trade??
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 28, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
An outstanding clump of Arum creticum Bill. What a triumph! 8)

Robin, I imported my (3) Narcissus `Angel's Whisper' from Marcus Harvey in Tasmania. I know he sends to several different countries in the northern hemisphere. However, as Bill says, the costs are exhorbitant and there is the added problem of acclimatization. He does, however, get the necessary tests and inspections done each year, so he can continue to export to New Zealand and the USA. If you are willing to go through the acclimatizing, then I can send you a bulb in our summer. It wouldn't cost anything as the parcel would be tiny and I'd hate it if people started paying postage for seeds or small plants that I send. No-one has ever asked me to pay for that either.

I can understand Bill's frustration and that it isn't worth the pain and anguish to continue as a commercial exporter (importing is worse, because what we have to do as an exporter, we have to require the nursery/person on the other end to do, if we import), but a small, clean bulb between friends is no problem at all and I've sent a number of bulbs and plants around the world successfully.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 28, 2009, 10:30:20 PM
This morning Andrew Broome sent me a pic of Babiana ringens. Does anyone grow this species? The flower shape was odd and irregular but it had a luscious strawberry pink colour.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 28, 2009, 10:33:30 PM
Back to trilliums again, all of mine except a singl leaved seedling, vanished last year. i.e. they didn't come up last year, just when I thought I had them sussed as they were well established clumps and flowered with 6 or 8 each. This year, the seedling hasn't come through either so I may have to accept that it is, as some say, short-lived. At one stage I was raisng many seedlings each year and even had it for sale in my nursery. One tends to get complacent....
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Ragged Robin on September 28, 2009, 10:38:36 PM
Lesley, thanks so much for your generous offer of an Angel's Whisper bulb - I will be guided by you as to what to do to acclimatise it and grow it on successfully - a thrilling prospect  ;D I'll PM my details
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 29, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
Let's stick with the Trilliums a little longer
I have one container with a red Trillium species that I don't know the species name for.
Would appreciate if someone could ID it for me please, a closeup of the same species for more detail.

The second species I believe is Trillium flexipes, again confirmation or otherwise would be nice.
Don't look at the holes in the leaves, the blasted slugs beat me to it.  
Thanks.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 29, 2009, 11:20:01 AM
i'm with paddy--this one is a killer! and beautifully photographed..
how large is it? can't tell from the shot..

Hi Cohan, with us they normally grow to about 30-40 cm. (12- 16 in.), nice size for pots or container.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: cohan on September 29, 2009, 06:56:12 PM
thanks, bill..
the 'hardy' aroids are a group i have never grown any of..there are a few that should make it here that i will watch for, others i could probably do in pots wintered somewhere safe..
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 29, 2009, 08:38:33 PM
Bill, Dave Toole will certianly know better than I, but I would suggest T. angustipetalum for your red. (You could tack on the varietal name 'Excisa.') ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 29, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
Bill, Dave Toole will certianly know better than I, but I would suggest T. angustipetalum for your red. (You could tack on the varietal name 'Excisa.') ;D

Funny you did suggest T.angustipetalum Lesley, I was thinking/hoping along the same lines. Thanks.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 29, 2009, 11:52:44 PM
Just a few more dwarf bearded irises (DBI's) flowering at the moment. Enjoy.

 Iris  'Wake Up'
 I. 'Low Lite'
 I. 'Bravita'
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 30, 2009, 12:23:20 AM
A couple more pics of the daffies, taken recently, notice they all face the same way towards the sun, north in our SH.
BTW: we're all getting sick and tired of all the rain over the last week.
Paul, could you please ask your weather god's to stop sending those low depressions accross the ditch?  ;D ;D

 Narcissus 'Bushtit'
 N.triandrus hybrid sdgs
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 30, 2009, 03:35:06 AM
I do like your 'Low Lite' Bill. One I must watch out for.

Here are 3 more, all rather the worse for several days of rain and very cold winds. I don't know the name of the yellow, It was supposed to be something quite different, but it is nice.
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DB Iris query yellow.

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MB Iris Sky Drops

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DB Iris Scribe.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 30, 2009, 03:41:04 AM
There are masses more little bearded irises to come and a few bigger ones as well, the result of the buying spree I had at the end of last year.

This is a very good form of Fritillaria affinis, from Ratko seed.
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Scoliopus bigelovii showing its spotted leaves for the first time in 10 years!
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And a long time favourite, Caltha palustris alba. I had this many years from Jack Drake seed originally then lost it when we moved here and it didn't like lifting and potting at the wrong time. I was able to buy 2 plants a  little over a year ago, my first attempt at buying plants over the Internet from a reasonably nearby nursery. I'm pleased to see it is setting seed. :)
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Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on September 30, 2009, 04:40:58 AM
Bill,

Don't bellyache about too much rain.  If you stopped stealing OUR rain you wouldn't have the problem.  While we've had a little, we are still very dry and way below average, so please send all that rain back to us and keep your greedy mitts off it.  ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on September 30, 2009, 11:30:27 AM
This time a few pics of Herbertia a genus from South America.
Herbertia pulchella has flowers in shades varying between blue and purple with a central white stripe and variable spotting.
Herbertia quareimana is another beautiful species with colourful markings.
The last photo is of a delightful selected form out of a batch of Herbertia pulchella seedlings.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 30, 2009, 08:39:25 PM
That's a very fine form the last one Bill. I'm all the more hopeful therefore, of a "best, selected form" of the same species which was sent to me as seed from Buenos Aires. It has germinated so well and the young ones are growing on quickly.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on October 01, 2009, 03:45:11 AM
Wow Bill, that last one is a cracker.  Great colour.  The middle one is very similar to H. lahue isn't it?
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 01, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
Wow Bill, that last one is a cracker.  Great colour.  The middle one is very similar to H. lahue isn't it?

Yes Herbertia lahue is the most commonly grown species, often under a variety of incorrect names, including Alophia drummondii and often confused with the true Herbertia pulchella. Its attractive flowers are lavender-blue with deeper violet blotches at their base. Hope this makes sence, and explains the mixup at times.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Paul T on October 01, 2009, 01:01:35 PM
Wow Bill, that last one is a cracker.  Great colour.  The middle one is very similar to H. lahue isn't it?

Yes Herbertia lahue is the most commonly grown species, often under a variety of incorrect names, including Alophia drummondii and often confused with the true Herbertia pulchella. Its attractive flowers are lavender-blue with deeper violet blotches at their base. Hope this makes sence, and explains the mixup at times.

So what are the differences between lahue and your quariemana?  I'll definitely keep an eye out for pulchella.  Marcus, you listening?  ;D
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Hristo on October 01, 2009, 01:13:21 PM
Stunning stuff from south of the equator guys! Great plants and photos!
Lesley, must ask, 10 years with S.bigelovii leaves without spots? Any theories?  :o
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 01, 2009, 09:18:54 PM
Yes Chris, a theory tested and proved - and one I'm ashamed of, in that my eyes/memory haven't been working properly. I went back to the pics I'd taken over the last 2 or 3 years and there they are, spotted as well as they are now.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Maggi Young on October 01, 2009, 09:29:49 PM
The thing about Scolipus bigelowii leaves is that they are only spotted when the leaves are very young. As they mature, the spots fade out, leaving the leaves plain green, so that could be a reason for thinking yours were spotless!!
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: ajbroome on October 02, 2009, 04:22:01 AM
Bill,

I didn't realise Ipheion dialystemon was in NZ.  How does the cultivation compare to the more common Iph. sewellianum (which flowers are reproduces for me fairly readily)?

Andrew.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Tecophilaea King on October 02, 2009, 11:15:41 AM
I didn't realise Ipheion dialystemon was in NZ.  How does the cultivation compare to the more common Iph. sewellianum (which flowers are reproduces for me fairly readily)?

Hi Andrew, with us I.dialystemon is like the rest of the Ipheions, free flowering and good increase.
If you interested in I.dialystemon please send me a PM, we could organise perhaps an exchange.
Title: Re: September 2009 - Southern Hemisphere- Spring
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 04, 2009, 09:13:09 AM
MAggi I think the truth is that yet again, my aging brain let me down and I didn't remember what had previously been obvious. :'(
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