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Title: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 16, 2009, 09:53:14 PM
Brian and I spent last week with our daughter and family in the south of France, Herault and l'Aude. On the only cool day we visited this lovely Botanic Garden on the outskirts of Limoux (famous for an excellent sparkling white wine, well we had to try it).

The garden was terrific but rather short of visitors apparently the French do not visit gardens in large numbers. We pottered around happily for over 2 hours.  One of the joys was the diversity of flowers and veg. The garden exists on entry charges and selling it's produce.

Most plants were well labelled but I have a few unknowns, so if anyone could help I should be grateful.

 DSCF4628 Caesalpinia gilliesi
 DSCF4627 Caesalpinia gilliesi
 DSCF4630 Albizia julibrissin Rosea
 DSCF4633 Euphorbia Diamond Frost
 DSCF4636 Catalpa in fruit
 DSCF4638 Thuja fruit
 DSCF4639 Commelina coelestis
 DSCF4641 Echinacea purpurea Fragrant Angel
 DSCF4642 Hibiscus Blue Bird
 DSCF4643 Jacobinia suberecta
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Maggi Young on August 16, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
My goodness, you Forumists do get around,  don't you?
Super looking garden, Shelagh.  Good of you to try the  local wine, eh?  ::)
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Ragged Robin on August 16, 2009, 10:47:19 PM
Thanks for your photos Shelagh, it's lovely to see the more exotic plants that love the heat!
Albizia julibrissin Rosea is wonderfully feathery!
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: arillady on August 16, 2009, 11:56:03 PM
Looks like a site that grows the plants that grow OK here. Hibiscus Blue Bird has been flowering for months now. It has a Parson's Pink rose growing through it so the combination is quite lovely.

Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Giles on August 17, 2009, 12:52:30 PM
Dear Shelagh,
Thankyou very much for the photographs: I love being introduced to new plants to grow.
Mr Bean reckons the Caesalpinia is just about hardy in the south - and I've already ordered the seeds!
(I can't think why  ;) )
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on August 17, 2009, 12:57:34 PM
Looks like an interesting garden !
Thanks for introducing it Shelagh !!
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 17, 2009, 02:50:10 PM
Thanks for the comments.  Here comes the next instalment, perhaps not quite so exotic but please keep coming as there will be more.


 DSCF4647 Lagostroemia indica
 DSCF4646 Lagostroemia indica
 DSCF4649 Unknown = Teucrium
 DSCF4652 Senecio vira-vira
 DSCF4656 Ipmoea
 DSCF4657 Peppers
 DSCF4658 Peppers
 DSCF4659 Unknown
 DSCF4660 Aubergine
 DSCF4661 Cucumber
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 18, 2009, 02:23:20 PM
One or two lovely plants in this posting.  A gorgeous orange bulb which i think had self sown there was only one and it was unlabelled.  Also a golden yellow/orange herbaceous plant which spread loosely. The wonderful climber Dregea sinensis which had a lovely scent was new to us but covered an arbour beautifully.

 DSCF4663 Jaberosa integrifolia
 DSCF4665 Cyclamen hederifolium persicum
 DSCF4668 Heliotrope arborescens alba
 DSCF4669 Unkinown dianthus
 DSCF4671 Dregea sinensis
 DSCF4673 Sysirinchium striatum 'Aount Mary'  = Mount Mary? Aunt Mary?
 DSCF4678 Unknown
 DSCF4684 Pond
 DSCF4733 Lobelia syphilitica Alba
 DSCF4691 Unknown = Belamcanda chinensis

Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Diane Clement on August 18, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Hi Shelagh, looks like a nice area, thanks for posting the pics.

Unknown 4649 looks like a Teucrium.

Your Cyclamen hederifoliums look more like Cyclamen persicum

Unknown 4691 is Belamcanda chinensis (now called Iris domestica).  It comes in yellow or orange, very easy from seed, will flower in the first year from seed, but a touch tender.  Very characteristic, the way the petals curl round when they go over.  Here's mine, not such a striking colour as the orange.
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 18, 2009, 04:49:00 PM
Thanks Diane, the Belamcanda was a wonderful colour, trouble is I would think most of these plants are a little bit tender.
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Brian Ellis on August 18, 2009, 06:49:10 PM
Shelagh if DSCF4659 Unknown had a scented leaf I think it is one of the Agastache, I have a very similar looking one here.
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: cohan on August 18, 2009, 07:14:55 PM
looks like a lovely place indeed to potter about! lots of lovely and exotic looking things!
cohan
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: arillady on August 19, 2009, 10:52:53 AM
Diane why is Belamcanda chinensis now Iris domestica? Who decides these changes?
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 19, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
Penultimate posting from Limoux. Some more unknowns, thanks for help already suggested.  I have doubled up on a couple of unknowns to try and get a different/better angle.  Glad you are enjoying the sunshine, my daughter says it has been 38C this week :o :o :o


 DSCF4685 Unknown
 DSCF4687 Unknown 2
 DSCF4692 Pomegranite
 DSCF4695 Myrtle
 DSCF4696 Lovely grass
 DSCF4699 Tulbaghia violaceae
 DSCF4701 passion flower
 DSCF4703 Euphorbia
 DSCF4705 Unknown
 DSCF4708 Unknown 2
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 19, 2009, 11:57:44 AM
OK the last picture should have been the first of this posting so you have 2 different versions of same plant about 5ft high but beautiful with delicate hanging flowers.

 DSCF4709 Unknown
 DSCF4711 French stumpery
 DSCF4712 Poliomintha longiflora
 DSCF4718 Thymus capitatus
 DSCF4720 Salvia canariensis 'Candidissima'
 DSCF4720 Salvia canariensis 'Candidissima'
 DSCF4724 Caparis spinosa
 DSCF4726 Nierenbergia
 DSCF4727 Art
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Ragged Robin on August 19, 2009, 12:43:23 PM
More gorgeous flowers and plants, I'm really enjoying your album of photos Shelagh  :)

The Passion Flower and Euphorbia are glorious and I too like the Lovely Grass (wonder what its called?)
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2009, 01:01:49 PM
Diane why is Belamcanda chinensis now Iris domestica? Who decides these changes?   

In this case, it's Goldblatt and Mabberley, who have changed the name, based on DNA evidence.

Belamcanda chinensis (http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=334601&repSynonym_id=322678&name_id=326839&status=false)

and the relevant paper by Goldblatt and Mabberley is here:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3393403?cookieSet=1

Abstract from the paper
The eastern Asian genus Belamcanda (Iridaceae: Irideae), with its sole species, B. chinensis, the leopard or blackberry lily, has long been understood to be most closely related to Iris dichotoma (syn. Pardanthopsis dichotoma), but has nevertheless been maintained as a separate genus because of its distinctive floral, fruit, and seed morphology. Molecular DNA sequence evidence shows B. chinensis and its sister species, I. dichotoma, to be nested within the large Northern Hemisphere genus Iris (ca. 280 spp.). Not only does consistent taxonomic treatment of genera of the Iridaceae require that Belamcanda be transferred to Iris, but we argue that taxonomy should follow the principle of monophyly, which requires that Belamcanda and any other genus nested in Iris be treated as members of that genus. A new combination, I. domestica (basionym Epidendrum domesticum), is made for B. chinensis (based on Ixia chinensis), because the name Iris chinensis is preoccupied. The names Belamcanda pampaninii Léveillé and B. chinensis var. taiwanensis S. S. Ying are here included in the synonymy of I. domestica.

It is impossible to keep up with current changes, but this one has been around since 2005.  The current version of The Plantfinder has not yet taken this one on board

Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Lori S. on August 19, 2009, 03:17:55 PM
Lovely visit!
4678 looks like Cosmos sulphureus.
4685, 4687 appear to be buttonbush, Cephalanthus, perhaps Cepahalanthus occidentalis.
4703 is Euphorbia marginata.
The unknown grass in 4696 looks like a Pennisetum.
4708, 4709 looks like a milkweed, Asclepias.
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 19, 2009, 05:18:21 PM
Thanks Lori, I think I shall have to take you with me next time.
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: shelagh on August 19, 2009, 07:52:46 PM
Sorry folks, got carried away again.  This patch is at least 12 ft long.
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: Maggi Young on August 19, 2009, 08:14:35 PM
Thanks, Shelagh!
Yes, that stretch of the Lippia = Phyla nodiflora is heading for world domination, isn't it? Nice though!
Title: Re: Jardin aux Plantes parfumes La Bouichere, 11300 Limoux, France
Post by: arillady on August 25, 2009, 12:26:08 AM
Thanks Diane for that extract on Iris domestica.
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