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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Paul T on August 16, 2009, 08:02:14 AM
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Howdy All,
We've got a topic for the South African genus, but why not the South American ones as well. I'm intending this for the "bulbous" plants, but for ease of use that can include corms, etc to save splitting hairs. ;D
For starters here are a couple of Ipheion/Tristigma/Nothoscordum/whatever they're currently called this week... ;) I'm labelled them here as I received them, but if they're wrong (particularly as I read somewhere the the Nothoscordum felipponei should have 8, not 6 parts) then please let me know.
So..... Nothoscordum felipponei and Ipheion 'Charlotte Bishop'
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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Howdy All,
We've got a topic for the South African genus, but why not the South American ones as well. I'm intending this for the "bulbous" plants, but for ease of use that can include corms, etc to save splitting hairs. ;D
What a pleasant start - I hope there will follow a lot of interesting flowers from the region mentioned!
Gerd
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Here's another South American flowering for me.... Tecophilaea cyanocrocus var leichtlinii. It was a real surprise to discover it open yesterday, as I didn't even realise there was a bud. Thank you Otto!! 8)
Please click on the pic for a larger version
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Ah! very pretty Paul, mine are still too small to flower - I have 20 seedlings growing strongly (leaves are approximately 10 cm long), and maybe the first flowers will appear next year. I keep thinking I'm going to kill them all one year as something this rare must be difficult to grow, but on the contrary, they seem to be quite undemanding.
I have a Phaedranassa cinerea specimen flowering in the greenhouse at the moment. It has a quiet beauty of its own and its large whitish, powdery leaves are a good foil for the colourful flowers:
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Flowering here;
Rhodophiala advena, hoping it will open a bit more when the sun returns, might allow for a brighter photo too!
P.s.. lovely looking plants Paul and Rogan, never seen that Nothoscordum before!
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Lady in Red. Lovely Chris.
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Superb specimens Hristo & Rogan. ;D
johnw
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Nothing quite as colourful here at present, but Nothoscordum felipponei is also in bloom
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This is a clump (ever increasing!) of Ipheion uniflorum "ex Alberto Castillo"
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I. peregrinans "Rolf Fiedler" is also in flower - will try to remmeber to get a pic.
cheers
fermi
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Yes, AC is very prolific isn't he. As are all in the group. My RF isn't in bloom yet but I discovered 'Charlotte Bishop in flower recently, having thought I'd lost the lady. I had, but only mislaid the pot. Have also found a seedling of 'Froyle MIll which is a very intense, dark purple. I'll isolate it and bulk it up. (Shouldn't be difficult. ;D)
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Here's the promised pic of Ipheion peregrinans "Rolf Fiedler" but the colour is a bit (very) washed out :(
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But the close up shows it more accurately.
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cheers
fermi
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'Rolf Feidler' is an incredible colour, a glorious blue which reminds me of a salvia whose name I can't remember. Sorry, that's about as useful as a two bob watch. ???
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Salvia patens??
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.... perhaps Salvia uliginosa?
Gerd
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Certainly gets me salivating! ;D
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'Rolf Feidler' is an incredible colour, a glorious blue which reminds me of a salvia whose name I can't remember. Sorry, that's about as useful as a two bob watch. ???
Perhaps Salvia patens "Cambridge Blue"?
I've just posted a couple of pics of Tropaeolum tricolor to the Trop Thread, but here's one again.
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cheers
fermi
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You mean salviating Anthony. :) No, I remembered, I meant Salvia azurea.
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I was given some "mixed Leucocoryne (?)hybrids" some years ago and it appears that they are in fact:
Leucocoryne purpurea
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And possibly L. ixioides
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Another grown from seed as L. vittata appears to be a hybrid!
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Mixed or not - they are outstanding!
Gerd
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I was given some "mixed Leucocoryne (?)hybrids" some years ago and it appears that they are in fact:
Leucocoryne purpurea
cheers
fermi
Fermi, I saw the first picture somewhere before(don't remember where?) but it intrigued me, if you leave the Leucocoryne all year in the garden, or do you take them out every year?
Here we have to take them out every year, but they need special treatment, otherwise they don't flower.
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Fermi,
Lovely! Do you have the true vittata? If not, I should be able to spare you a bulb. Mine are in flower at the moment (they flower every year, unlike the majority of the rest of them that I have). A pic is on my camera, but not on the computer yet. I also have a purpurea flowering, from the "mixed hybrid" bulbs that were offered by a couple of the mail order companies a few years ago.
Luit,
If you don't mind me answering that as well...... I get them repotted every few years and they always do better when I do, but I rarely get around to it. They stay outside in their pots year around, no treatment necessary. They do like a bit more food than I give them (which I assume is why they like the repot), but some like vittata flower more freely anyway.
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Fermi, I saw the first picture somewhere before(don't remember where?) but it intrigued me, if you leave the Leucocoryne all year in the garden, or do you take them out every year?
Here we have to take them out every year, but they need special treatment, otherwise they don't flower.
Luit, please let me (us) know what kind of special treatment do the Leucocorynes need? I never saw a flower from my few bulbs.
Gerd
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Beautiful Leucocoryne, Fermi. I have one grown from F&W seed as Leucocoryne ? coquimbensis. It grew quite well in the greenhouse at work, growing in the winter and flowering in Spring. Since I retired it has been a bit more erratic with my lower winter temperatures. It did not flower this year but last year did well and has good shoots on it now. Ferraria crispa has behaved in a similar way. It had the foliage frosted the first year I had it at home, got too drawn with lack of light in the house the following year, but grew and flowered well in the greenhouse the next year. Last winter was colder so it produced a few leaves then died down. I was going to repot it yesterday but just scraped off and replaced the soil above the bulbs which are starting to grow. It seems to increase well below ground even if there is not much growth above.
The following pictures were taken in May 2008
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Luit, please let me (us) know what kind of special treatment do the Leucocorynes need? I never saw a flower from my few bulbs.
Gerd
Gerd, I don't know much about the treatment, but as Leucocoryne comes from Chile and grow in areas where it is dry and warm for a long time, I presume that keeping the bulbs at 23 C. until planting in spring (end of March) might be a possibility. (25 C. is another possibility??)
I know of Babiana kept with 25 C did not flower, but 20 - 22 C. was perfect.
Most people think of S. Africa is very hot and dry, but plants under shrubs grow a bit cooler.
At least don't keep them cold! I am no expert on this, but reading Roma's writing about not flowering this year, it might be a reason for not flowering?
I would keep them at least at living room temp.
The bulbs need warmth to induce flowering.
Here is a link about S. American geophytes, where you might learn some more.
http://www.seedconsortium.org/PUC/pdf%20files/32-Flowering%20geophytes%20of%20Chile%20have%20ornamental...pdf (http://www.seedconsortium.org/PUC/pdf%20files/32-Flowering%20geophytes%20of%20Chile%20have%20ornamental...pdf)
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Leucocorynes are such underrated plants. I flowered a few from seed for the first time this year and was completely blown away by them! As a bonus the flowers are sweet-scented and very long lasting.
However, I do not find them very easy from seed and seedling mortallity is quite high, and it takes quite a number of years to reach flowering size, 4 - 5 years in my experience.
This species, L. vitata, has been displayed in various threads recently, but I have to show it one more time ::) My plants were much earlier than those of PaulT and Fermi - flowering nearly a month or so ago - can you spot the imposter?
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HI Rogan, nice spider bye Ray
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It is Ray, just think, I had my nose in that flower just before I took the picture - I didn't see the spider until I viewed my pictures on the computer some time after! :o
One more species that flowered fantastically this season - L. coquimbensis (...I think?):
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Luit,
Thank you for your helpful advice - will try a warmer place in winter!
Leucocorynes are such underrated plants. I flowered a few from seed for the first time this year and was completely blown away by them! As a bonus the flowers are
Rogan - Nothing to add - love these Anden beauties also!
Gerd
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Those Leucocoryne are sooooo beatiful :o :o
Congratulations for all those flowers :)
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Interesting to note, Rogan, my Leucocoryne ?coquimbensis looks more like your vittata. As mine came with a question mark does anyone know which is the correct name?
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a bit unusual for this time of the year :
Ipheion recurvifolium ( earlier I.sessile )
the nomenclatur is a bit difficould ....in Kew is it now listet as Tristagma recurvifolium ???
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Hans, actually a little gem! Fine
Alberto
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Very pretty Hans.
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Rogan, your Leucocoryne you have as coquimbensis could almost be thought of as a poor man's Tecophilaea. ;D
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Leucocorynes - I feel a new lust coming on
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Leucocorynes - I feel a new lust coming on
I understand the feeling! It's the combination of rich colour and those crazy markings.... yummy!
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Very pretty Hans.
Hans, actually a little gem! Fine
Alberto
Thank you Alberto & David :D
Hans 8)
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there are some flowering size bulbs labeled as Leucocorynes 'andes' on ebay here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STUNNING-FLOWER-Leucocoryne-Andes-10-Bulbs_W0QQitemZ110429507666QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN?hash=item19b61c9052#ht_1500wt_732 im thinking of buying these are they worth it?
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Davey,
They're Leucocoryne purpurea. We had them sold here in Australia as 'Andes', but they look just like straight purpurea, or at least what I received under that name did. Very pretty plant, but I have no idea how available these are other than in Australia, and therefore what they're worth.
Hans,
The Ipheion is quite interesting. The slight dark shading in the throat, and to me a very Romulea-like appearance to the flower. Quite different to the other Ipheions isn't it?
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Paul ,
yes this is really different from all the other Ipheion
....and it is one of the rarest Ipheion ;D ....I need a lot of work to get this plant
I have it now from two different sources and I hope it is possibly to make seeds one day ....
Hans
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Hans,
Well done in getting 2 clones of it. That in itself is a bit of an achievement. I am assuming given their rarity that they don't offset quite as freely as the normal species we see?
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Paul ,
I hope that this are two different clones !!!
Yes - grows not so fast like the other Ipheion :'(
There also one rare Ipheion more : Ipheion tweedianum ......I have it never seen anywhere offered :-\
knows maybe anyone a source ?
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also my Ipheion sessile now in flower :)
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here flowering today my both pots - each with 5 -6 flowers .....I have today pollinate it several times 8)
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More for the surprise value than anything else, Nothoscordum sellowianum or Ipheion sellowianum or Ipheion dialystemon, flowering in the open garden, it's been snowed on and been through several frosts and has spent the summer under tomato plants which had been heavily watered and fertilised!
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Chris,
Well it obviously enjoyed it! ;D
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it is so beautiful! you should post one bunch for me ;D
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My favourites are South American hardy Oxalis, and on the top I'm placing O. adenophylla. I have few forms of it - you can see on attached pictures (traditional commercial form not included) but still looking for others. May be someone can offer?
Janis
Oxalis adenophylla Purple Heart -06
Oxalis adenophylla Purple Heart -05
Oxalis adenophylla Tora-01
Oxalis adenophylla 12435 Got -03
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The last one is very nice Janis ! ::) I have bought Oxalis enneaphylla Annette this automn as bulb and I'm
waiting for leaves and flowers....
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Paul, yes much to my surprise it seems happy, once again it is under snow, about 12cm has fallen today.
Arykana, if I ever have a bunch you will be first in line! ;)
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Makes yer spit don't it. I can't get them to flower for love nor money and Janis does it in spades. ::)
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I can't do O. adenophylla either David. I thought it was because it was too hot (Fin Haugli has superbly grown plants in Tromso) but my friends grow them in hot scree. So I've tried them cooler too and they didn't come through their first dormancy. O. enneaphylla and laciniata both do well so why not the other?
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That Oxalis is one species I've never come across here in Australia. Whether it is just that they haven't been available but ARE in collections, I don't know. Nor enneaphylla either for that matter. They look to have crackers of flowers. Another on my "loved pictures" list is 'Ion Heckler' (I don't think that is quite spelt right), which is another one I've not seen here. So many nice Oxalis, aren't there. ;D
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Ione Hecker! 8)
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Thanks Maggi, you beat me to it. Paul's version reminds me of an elderly friend whose show entries of Pleione 'Hekla,' the Icelandic volcano, are always labelled 'Heckler.' :)
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As I said, I didn't think the spelling was right, but you all knew what I was talking about at least. ;D
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Arykana, if I ever have a bunch you will be first in line! ;)
Thank you! It is so nice from you ;D
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I'm growing all my Oxalis in greenhouse and in outside garden. They bloom perfectly in most cases. Generally it depends from cultivar. Never with me flowered Oxalis ennaephylla minutaeflora, rarely and only few blooms and only in greenhouse forms cv. Sheffield Swan. I think that I didn't see flowering Oxalis loricata, but may be plants is too young. Later will try to show you some more pictures.
Janis
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Few more Oxalis. Between my pictures I found some shot of O. loricata seedlings - you can see variability and special shape of leaves.
Two named cultivars of O. ennaephylla - earlier mentioned 'Sheffield Swan' - you can see both flowers formed this summer, another is more floriferous 'Waverly'.
From Oxalis patagonica - cv. 'Seven Bells' and 'Sweet Sue'
and as last hybrid Oxalis x 'Ione Hecker'.
Later will show you unnamed seedlings of patagonica and ennaephylla.
Janis
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Wow, Janis. Impressive!
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Is the 'Sheffield Swan' selection any or much different from enneaphylla alba Janis? The former is in New Zealand but not distributed by its grower so I can't compare with my own alba form. Pic below but rain damaged. It flowers very freely and I've had a few seed pods as well.
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Is the 'sheffield Swan' selection any or much different from enneaphylla alba Janis? The former is in New Zealand but not distributed by its grower so I can't compare with my own alba form. Pic below but rain damaged. It flowers very freely and I've had a few seed pods as well.
'Sheffield Swan' I think was selected by very famous gardener Kath Dryden, unfortunately leaving us this Spring. By pictures both looks very similar, but real comparing could be only planting both forms side by side. Then it is possible to judge - are they the same by colore, leaves, flowering time etc. Growing conditions must be identical.
Janis
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Now few more Oxalis ennaephylla named cv. 'Annette' and two selections made in Gothenburg BG (Sweden).
Janis
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Is the 'sheffield Swan' selection any or much different from enneaphylla alba Janis? The former is in New Zealand but not distributed by its grower so I can't compare with my own alba form. Pic below but rain damaged. It flowers very freely and I've had a few seed pods as well.
'Sheffield Swan' I think was selected by very famous gardener Kath Dryden, unfortunately leaving us this Spring. By pictures both looks very similar, but real comparing could be only planting both forms side by side. Then it is possible to judge - are they the same by colore, leaves, flowering time etc. Growing conditions must be identical.
Janis
'Sheffield Swan' was collected(?) and named from the Falkland Islands by Capt. Peter Erskine. I'll search out more info.....
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'Sheffield Swan' I think was selected by very famous gardener Kath Dryden, unfortunately leaving us this Spring. By pictures both looks very similar, but real comparing could be only planting both forms side by side. Then it is possible to judge - are they the same by colore, leaves, flowering time etc. Growing conditions must be identical.
Janis
'Sheffield Swan' was collected(?) and named from the Falkland Islands by Capt. Peter Erskine. I'll search out more info.....
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Many thanks, Masggie. Will correct my files.
Janis
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Here's a link to John Richards' Northumberland Diary..... where he mentions, Peter's selection of the plant....
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Northumberland/+May+/40/
The AGS Bulletin No.65 Vol. 4, of December 1997, pages 427 and 428, has the description written when the plant was awarded a PC by the RHS Joint Rock Committee.
There Peter Erskine describes finding the plant and how a rhizome was then sent back to Kath Dryden who worked to establish the plant in cultivation..... so we see where the Kath Dryden connection comes from! :)
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Thanks for the link Maggi. I knew it was one of Peter's collections and the plant in New Zealand certainly came from him. I seem to remember my alba was from Potterton and Martin or maybe Hartside. It seems pretty much the same in bloom, maybe the leaves slightly different.
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Few more Oxalis. Between my pictures I found some shot of O. loricata seedlings - you can see variability and special shape of leaves.
Two named cultivars of O. ennaephylla - earlier mentioned 'Sheffield Swan' - you can see both flowers formed this summer, another is more floriferous 'Waverly'.
From Oxalis patagonica - cv. 'Seven Bells' and 'Sweet Sue'
and as last hybrid Oxalis x 'Ione Hecker'.
Later will show you unnamed seedlings of patagonica and ennaephylla.
Janis
Janis ,thanks for sharing this beautifull pictures .This is really a fantastic genus.
About 1990 the first that came in our collection was Ione Heckner .
These days more species thrive in my rockgarden. There is "Purple Heart" ,indeed a fine form , but also "Anette",and " Patagonica" .In winter they get some protection against wet.
In throughs I also grow lacianata-forms.And in the greenhouse there are others to try outside sometime.
So yes I am hooked on this ones.
November/december 2008 I was (as a member of the Ger Vanden Beuken-expedition)in Patagonie.Since that time I became extremely hooked on Oxalis from South America.
In the wild there are many "Seven Bells " ,"Sheffield Swans" and many more interesting forms one few square metres......Unbelievable how different they are on location.We see enneaphylla,lacianata,loricata and the most fabulous : squamoso-radicata ssp pubescens .The latter has velvet leaves and was super!The best forms always grows under screeconditions....If someone is interested ,I can show some pictures later on ........
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What a question Kris... ::)
Of course we want to see more pictures... ;D ;)
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What a question Kris... ::)
Of course we want to see more pictures... ;D ;)
Yes, please, more, more!
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What a question Kris... ::)
Of course we want to see more pictures... ;D ;)
Yes, please, more, more!
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You both win again ........So I start to browse in my database. ;D But first I have to finish my snow-man.
This was a surprise ,Belgium under a white carpet ......
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But first I have to finish my snow-man.
This was a surprise ,Belgium under a white carpet ......
That is important work.... we will wait patiently! ;)
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As promise here are some pictures that I took in Patagonie ......
It starts with enneaphylla...... ,I don't know about the last one ,Is this enneaphylla?
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The next are lacianata .
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On screes you often find the best .......Here I am not sure ,is this also enneaphylla?
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As promise here are some pictures that I took in Patagonie ......
It starts with enneaphylla...... ,I don't know about the last one ,Is this enneaphylla?
The last could be loricata?
Janis
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And finally a last serie with loricata ,squomoso-radicata ssp pubescens ,and oxalis with seedpods
And speaking about seedpods ,it would be nice that someone could harvest a bit of seed from al those many splendid things ...
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Fantastic pictures Kris! Happy to see them in wild. It is one of my greatest dreams to go sometimes there, but it is so expensive, that I'm afraid than never I can spare so much. The flight is extremely long, too. At least I can see those beauties on your pictures.
Here I'm attaching some pictures of Oxalis laciniata selected by me from plants originally collected by Kirsten A. and so kindly spared to me.
Janis
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As promise here are some pictures that I took in Patagonie ......
It starts with enneaphylla...... ,I don't know about the last one ,Is this enneaphylla?
The last could be loricata?
Janis
Thank Janis, I never be certain it was enneaphylla but some says that the enneaphylla-forms that grows in screes looks different and very compact. I am not sure ,but indeed it looks rather like loricata .
In the scree the rootstock was hidden very very deep down ,so it was rather difficult to look at this aspect.
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Fantastic pictures Kris! Happy to see them in wild. It is one of my greatest dreams to go sometimes there, but it is so expensive, that I'm afraid than never I can spare so much. The flight is extremely long, too. At least I can see those beauties on your pictures.
Here I'm attaching some pictures of Oxalis laciniata selected by me from plants originally collected by Kirsten A. and so kindly spared to me.
Janis
The prices are indeed (too)high for South America ! But seeing those things in reality is a good painkiller ...
I am also not happy with such long flights but with a bit of sleep and a lot of plantdiscussions with other expeditionmembers I could survive ...Thanks to our tourleader,Ger Vanden Beuken- with had a very nice expedition.
As I can see you have allready many good forms at home ....Very nice! The blue ones are gorgeous !
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Some more of my selections and once more thanks to Kirsten for those beauties.
Janis
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Superb display Kris and Janis !!
I'm a great Oxalis fan ... these blue lacianata are really out of this world !!
Thanks for showing ! :D
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Kris and Janis,
Thank you for the excellent pics. A wonderful way to end the day. I just got home from work and had a quick 5 minute look at the computer before heading to bed (it's 2:20am).... these pics are a real pleasure.
Looks like I have to try to track down lacineata in Australia if possible. Absolutely stunning!! 8)
Thank you both.
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All these Oxalis are very stunning ::)
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Superb pictures Kris and a great thrill to see so many different colours and forms.
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In Reply 71 I am amazed to see the Oxalis out in the pasture with the Estancia horses in the background. I had always imaged the oxalis to grow in tight corners and harsh scree areas. What a wonderful sight they must be growing in among the grasses.
And in Reply 73 from Torres del Paine, can you say what the other interesting plant is, growing around the white Oxalis flower? The burnished buds look to be full of promise. I'd love to see them opened and fully in bloom.
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Kris and Janis - A dizzying display of Oxalis.
Kris - I have been intrigued by Estancia Stag River for years as it was the home of Ruth Tweedy who collected some very hardy plants in the area. It has reputedly gone to -29c there years ago. A friend was there in 1996 and it had gone to -29c the previous winter and alot of sheep died from the cold. She collected plants seed from plants that would not have been snow-covered. I think the Junker-Iufro expedition from Denmark collected there in the 60's and got some remarkably hardy plants. Somewhere I have data on their successes.
Do tell us more of the plants from that spot. Will you go back?
johnw
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In Reply 71 I am amazed to see the Oxalis out in the pasture with the Estancia horses in the background. I had always imaged the oxalis to grow in tight corners and harsh scree areas. What a wonderful sight they must be growing in among the grasses.
At Stag River they all grow in pastures, both enneaphylla and lacianata.I don't know if they are poisonous for the horses but as we can see the horses don't eat them.Yes it was a wonderfull sight and I dreamed that our buttercup been replaced by these South Americans .....
Before we fly to Argentina I had never an idea that they grow in such conditions.Here our books told us that they grow in peaty conditions.But looking at the structure of this grasslands it looks indeed peaty ......Amazingly we found them also in pure sand and in fine scree.
And in Reply 73 from Torres del Paine, can you say what the other interesting plant is, growing around the white Oxalis flower? The burnished buds look to be full of promise. I'd love to see them opened and fully in bloom.
Oh yes Lesley ,very sharp eyes.........
This is Oreopolis glacialis Oreopolus glacialis.
Another stunning scree-dweller..
I have some pictures with open buds ,I can post them later on if you interested....
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Kris - I have been intrigued by Estancia Stag River for years as it was the home of Ruth Tweedy who collected some very hardy plants in the area. It has reputedly gone to -29c there years ago. A friend was there in 1996 and it had gone to -29c the previous winter and alot of sheep died from the cold. She collected plants that she was sure would not have been snow-covered. I think the Junker-Iufro expedition from Denmark collected there in the 60's and got some remarkably hardy plants. Somewhere I have data on their successes.
Do tell us more of the plants from that spot. Will you go back?
johnw
John - I have so many good memorys of our visit to Est.Stag River.As you maybe know it is her daughter Julia who runs the Estancia now. (was it daughter or grand-daughter ,I doubt)Julia and her husband are very nice and warm-hearted people.We feel at home right from the start.Julia is also a excellent cook and her desserts were unresistable! Even in spring (time of our visit )it can be cold at that corner of Patagonie.In the winter prior to our visit also many animals died of the severe cold.We saw some dead bodys on several occasions.Indeed I think that many plants of that area must be very hardy .But I also think that the major problem must be our summer...At the Estancia was always a cooling breeze .
There is that wind and also the wet and peaty structure of the grassland were the plants find a place to grow .The wind overthere can easily blow you away,it even go trough our thermal underware!So the wind is for me the key ......,not in the winter but in summer.
The Estancia was legendary for its Oxalis but other good plants we found are Calceolaria,Olsynium ,Bolax,Pernetteya ,Anemone multifida ,Chloraea (orchid),Saxifraga magellanica,Azorella.
The scree behind the Estancia : Xerodraba,Hamadryas,Moschopsis,Nassauvia and many more
For the plants on the scree we were even to early .Due the cold and long winter the spring had a delay.
Yes I want to go back sometimes ,but the prices for South America are very high at the moment.
And I hope to go to another area in 2011....,as South America has many more interesting alpine-areas .
I am interested in the results of that Danisch expedition .
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Kris - Many thanks for the report, Estancia Stag River sounds as magical as I thought.
If you PM me your mailing address I will photocopy an immense tome of correspondence on the Danish results.
johnw - an impending storm, the one that blanketed the eastern USA. We can use some more snow cover.
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Correct spelling is Oreopolus glacialis.... here are some links from the Forum to pix of the plants in flower......
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3022.msg72967#msg72967
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2925.msg70111#msg70111
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Correct spelling is Oreopolus glacialis....
Yes ,of course Maggi ! Tha
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Maggi - Just want to say it is never good to hurry up and even then I was hurry up! ???
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Don't
wotryy worry Kris, it happens to us all!! :-*
( see what I mean?!! )
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here are some links from the Forum to pix of the plants in flower......
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3022.msg72967#msg72967
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2925.msg70111#msg70111
Oh yes of course, our tourleader Ger allready put some pictures on the forum .They look very familiar to me .
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Oh yes, I remember the Oreopolus. Even had some seed once from a Watson expedition It never germinated though. We'd love to see your pictures Kris, as many as possible of as many species as possible. Call it your Christmas present to the Forum. :D :-*
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Kris - Many thanks for the report, Estancia Stag River sounds as magical as I thought.
If you PM me your mailing address I will photocopy an immense tome of correspondence on the Danish results.
johnw - an impending storm, the one that blanketed the eastern USA. We can use some more snow cover.
John - I try to find some pictures of the Estancia because you are right.It got something magical ....!!!
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Oh yes, I remember the Oreopolus. Even had some seed once from a Watson expedition It never germinated though. We'd love to see your pictures Kris, as many as possible of as many species as possible. Call it your Christmas present to the Forum. :D :-*
Lesley - At home I try to grow one plant .I buy it on a conference in Germany .But it is tricky and I must confess that I check this one every day . Every time it is a life I thank God ........These plants are not good for my nerves anyway.
I am happy that you like my pictures ,it is an honour to share it with you all.
Only by sharing things you have hobby .When keeping things of your own, then you have no hobby!
So I browse again and hope to find some X-mas presents for our forum.
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We'll look forward to them Kris, perhaps with a piece of Christmas cake and a glass of something amber coloured. ;)
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a couple of pictures of Oxalis adenophylla in the Talca valley in central Chile.
In the first one are hundreds of plants growing amongst equally large numbers of rosulate violas on a dry hillside. The second is a closeup of one of the plants
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Stunning Kris. (But just the smallest of entrees. Next course please. :D)
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We'll look forward to them Kris, perhaps with a piece of Christmas cake and a glass of something amber coloured. ;)
Belgium is specialized in the amber coloured stuff Lesley ::) , but for Christmas cakes maybe you got to look in other countrys ........Panettone from Italy ,Stolle from ? :-\
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Stunning Kris. (But just the smallest of entrees. Next course please. :D)
Sorry Lesley , the nice pictures belong to Tony ..... ;D
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a couple of pictures of Oxalis adenophylla in the Talca valley in central Chile.
In the first one are hundreds of plants growing amongst equally large numbers of rosulate violas on a dry hillside. The second is a closeup of one of the plants
This is the kind of habitat for adenophylla that we also have seen during our trip.
In contrast with enneaphylla and lacianata we find it in warmer places.
We travel in an area were enneaphylla and adenophylla grows together.
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Kris - Many thanks for the report, Estancia Stag River sounds as magical as I thought.
If you PM me your mailing address I will photocopy an immense tome of correspondence on the Danish results.
johnw - an impending storm, the one that blanketed the eastern USA. We can use some more snow cover.
John - I try to find some pictures of the Estancia because you are right.It got something magical ....!!!
As I promise ,few pictures taken at the Estancia .....
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Finally Julia and her husband Mike ........(As I remember well he was Scottisch )
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Kris,
It even looks like their cat is a Scottish Fold, so the scottish influence is strong. ;D Stunning pic of the horses on the skyline. 8)
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Kris - Wonderful to have faces to names.
What sort of plants were they growing in their garden and round the house?
johnw
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Yes, a super shot of the horses. Funny, Mike and Julia look so.....ordinary. I'd imagined ponchos, wide hats and bucking broncos. I guess farming folk around the world look much the same, doing, as they do, much the same job even though working with different animals sometimes, different climates and different kinds of landscapes. Anyway, Estancia Stag River is a cattle ranch is it not? Probably as many llamas and alpacas here as there. :D
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Kris,
It even looks like their cat is a Scottish Fold, so the scottish influence is strong. ;D Stunning pic of the horses on the skyline. 8)
Paul , I just see the cat right now ! ::)What is a "Scottish fold" ?
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Yes, a super shot of the horses. Funny, Mike and Julia look so.....ordinary. I'd imagined ponchos, wide hats and bucking broncos. I guess farming folk around the world look much the same, doing, as they do, much the same job even though working with different animals sometimes, different climates and different kinds of landscapes. Anyway, Estancia Stag River is a cattle ranch is it not? Probably as many llamas and alpacas here as there. :D
Julia's and Mike's daughter in law looks bit more like you imagined Lesley ,because she is from Argentina.
I guess Mike and Julia stay European anyway... You mean something like we see on pic1
They have horses and sheep on their ranch.
We encounter some "guanaco's " in this area .But they living on the scree's in the neighbourhood of the ranch.The second picture shows this encounter .... Later on the trip there were many more ......
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Kris - Wonderful to have faces to names.
What sort of plants were they growing in their garden and round the house?
johnw
Nothing special John ......When we left our homecountry it was autumn ,falling leaves and lovely autumncolors and so on .Arriving in Argentina it was spring again .Strange feeling anyway ....
I remember there was the appleblossom in their garden and some Narcissus in full flower .But it is obvious that they have other things on their mind......
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Kris,
A Scottish Fold is a breed of cat. It has folded down ears, which is what the cat in the pic looks to have. They're quite distinctive, but it could just be my eyes playing tricks on me and not that breed at all. ::)
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kris--thanks for the photos of the plants in habitat--a wonderful place! i really love this kind of environment :)
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Now the Christmas -days passed away and the snow is melting ,it is time for another South American bulbous plant that we met on our Patagonian -tour in 2008.
Speak about bulbous plants from South America means mentioning this one .........
Alstroemeria patagonica.
(See also my topic ,growing from seed)
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Lovely Alstroemeria.
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Is it typical that the plant flowers after the leaves are dead?
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Cute little thing, isn't it Kris. 8)
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Is it typical that the plant flowers after the leaves are dead?
Lesley ,at the habitats that we have visited it was typical .But I am not sure this is typical for all the Alstroemeria patagonica .As we seen this plant in several occassions ,in different areas I may suppose it is typical for this species anyway.The seedpods were coming also in a hurry after the flowers were finished.
I had the idea that the whole growing or flowering process was going very fast .
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Is it typical that the plant flowers after the leaves are dead?
I think most of the alstroemeria's are dieing down as they flower as are many other of the Andean bulbs which are growing in a Mediterranean climate there.
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As do many South Africans, presumably for the same reasons. In my (limited) experience, onco irises also look shabby by the time the flowers open, though from the pictures on the onco thread, in my case it's more likely to be less than ideal culture. :'(
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NICE AND RICH NEW YEAR TO ALL FORUMISTS!
My single Alstroemeria is pygmaea, it grew well and is selfsowing in neighbor pots, but plants arn't long living. Just for abundant seed crops I'm never without it.
Janis