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Seedy Subjects! => Seed Exchange => Topic started by: Rafa on July 21, 2009, 01:32:17 PM

Title: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: Rafa on July 21, 2009, 01:32:17 PM

Hello,

I have some seeds of this species if anyone is interested.

I am looking for seeds of Iris, Lilium, Alstroemeria... .

All the best,

Rafa.

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: JPB on July 30, 2009, 02:18:07 PM

Hi Rafa,

Yes I'm interested. But I can't find this species on the internet or in the John Blanchard book. New species or nomenclatural change?
I have L. martagon seeds to offer; the real species from once wild-collected plants from Poland.

Regards, Hans

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: arillady on July 31, 2009, 12:34:49 AM

I too cannot find that name in Blanchard but am interested if they come from Spain.

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: Maggi Young on July 31, 2009, 11:18:55 AM

From the 2008 Narcissus revison list:
 Narcissus varduliensis Fernández Casas & Uribe-Echebarría, in Estud. Inst. Alavés Naturaleza 3: 232 (1988) (Narcissus) Section
Pseudonarcissus


From B.J.M Zonnevald's recent paper on narcissus DNA...
 N. pseu. ssp. leonensis (Pugsley) Fern. Casas & Lainz 65.8 Vittoria, Spain  : renamed/syn as varduliensis ?

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: arillady on July 31, 2009, 11:31:41 AM

Thanks Maggie  :)

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: Maggi Young on July 31, 2009, 11:37:30 AM

Thanks, Pat, Sorry not to have more info for you... but these two references are the best I can do... at least they give a hint as to the likely type!

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: Rafa on July 31, 2009, 01:18:47 PM

oh sorry! I missed all these replies,

Hans, send me your addres, Pat I think I have your address.

Narcissus varduliensis Fern.Casas  &  Uribe-Ech.
Estud. Inst. Alavés Naturaleza 3: 232 (1988).

This species is not valid for most of people, but I have seen N. pseudonarcissus subsp. nobilis and N. varduliensis and although they are very close, N. varduliensis more concolor. It is like a cross between N. pallidiflorus and N. nobilis.

Anyway it is stunning species.

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: Afloden on August 03, 2009, 06:13:38 AM

Would love a few seeds. I could supply some seed of Lilium canadense red, wild collected, or Iris brevicaulis from southern Alabama.

 Aaron Floden
 University of Tennesse Herbarium

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: annew on August 04, 2009, 12:48:53 PM

If you have any left, Rafa, I would like seed too. I have seeds (or tubers) in return of a small alstromeria which seeds and runs about in my sand plunge. I think it is Alstroemeria pygmaea, it is about 7cm high with glaucous leaves and yellow flowers.

Title: Re: Narcissus varduliensis
Post by: Rafa on August 04, 2009, 08:20:20 PM

Oh, thank you. Could both send me your address to my e-mail?

All the best,

Rafa.