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Title: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on May 31, 2009, 03:12:57 PM
Does anyone have a picture of a pink Lilium lophophorum (other than this one (http://www.marnis.nl/l-90.jpg))? My own plant looks like it's finally going to flower, and I'm curious as to what I should expect.
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 31, 2009, 11:05:37 PM
Well if that's L. lophophorum - and it looks like it - you should probably expect something just like that. :)
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Magnar on June 01, 2009, 08:29:44 AM
Mine are all yellow.
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on June 01, 2009, 09:54:20 AM
I was afraid it would end up being one of those elusive plants only once seen on a 10 y.o. Chinese photograph - what you order is certainly no guarantee for what you get, tho as I was hopeful as Paul Christian has been peddling them in the past... :P
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Tony Willis on June 01, 2009, 11:24:19 AM
that is a picture from the Chen yi website and the true colour could be anything. Ihave had L. lophophorum from her and it was yellow. It nearly died after flowering and is down to a couple of scales which I hope will survive
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Diane Clement on June 01, 2009, 12:57:40 PM
I have had "pink L lophophorum" several times from her and it has been yellow every time, although quite different forms, one taller than usual, one with greenish yellow flowers.  Keep hoping ...
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on June 01, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Too bad... The flower in Chen Yi's pic looks wilted, could it have faded to that colour?
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: ArneM on June 01, 2009, 08:02:36 PM
Paul Christian sold it some years ago as well and used the same picture from above. Has anyone obtained that form from him?
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: WimB on June 01, 2009, 10:24:26 PM
I bought the pink one from Paul Christian two years ago (I didn't have the yellow form until a week ago (Thanks Bjornar ;)) but it has not yet flowered and it doesn't seem to want to flower this year either. Maybe next year??
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on June 02, 2009, 08:22:55 AM
I bought the pink one from Paul Christian two years ago

Can you remember if the bulb had any roots when you got it? I'm curious if they were grown on for a year in the UK, or just given a new price tag and sent straight out again ::) It most certainly cannot have been flowering sized, as PC's description claims... Mine came from Chen Yi in Nov. 06.
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: WimB on June 02, 2009, 08:47:46 AM
I bought the pink one from Paul Christian two years ago

Can you remember if the bulb had any roots when you got it? I'm curious if they were grown on for a year in the UK, or just given a new price tag and sent straight out again ::) It most certainly cannot have been flowering sized, as PC's description claims... Mine came from Chen Yi in Nov. 06.

Bjørnar,

I'm not sure but I think it didn't have any roots at all. It was a very small bulb and it was miserable for two years. This year is the first year it seems to have grown quite a bit but certainly not flowering size  ::)

Don't forget to post a picture of it here when it flowers (pink or not).
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on June 02, 2009, 09:29:19 AM
I'm not sure but I think it didn't have any roots at all. It was a very small bulb and it was miserable for two years. This year is the first year it seems to have grown quite a bit but certainly not flowering size  ::)

Then that's a pretty cheeky mark-up... One bulb from Chen Yi would have cost him about £2.30 in 2006/07 - that's £8.50 profit after VAT ::) Make sure you complain if it turns out to be yellow flowered! They've always needed a couple of years to settle in here as well, ironically they're almost as quick from seed to flowers as they are from bulbs.
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: gote on June 02, 2009, 09:51:12 AM
I have also bought "pink" lopophorum but no pink has flowered. Most of them have had open flowers only two had lantern shape. Unlike stated in some books they can have several flowers if well fed.
Göte
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on July 09, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
I finally realized where Chen Yi got the "pink" from...
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Diane Clement on July 09, 2010, 10:22:42 PM
I finally realized where Chen Yi got the "pink" from...   

Very interesting.  I have had this many times, it's always been yellow, although sometimes the taller open flowered form.  (oh I just realised I said that on this thread last year, well the story is the same.) 
I was beginning to think the pink form was a figment of her imagination, but it does exist!
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Pascal B on July 09, 2010, 10:34:58 PM
Chen Yi is a cheaky business woman and no doubt she does use bad, blurred or poor pictures on purpose to entice us to buy from her. The "yellow" Arisaema candidissimum for instance has always turned out to be white but does become yellow when it fades. But out of focus it is not easy to spot the fact that the flower is wilting.
Ah well, the latest news from the US I heard is that she has doubled or tripled her prices so her business will go down fast if she holds on to these new prices.
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on July 09, 2010, 10:49:05 PM
I was beginning to think the pink form was a figment of her imagination, but it does exist!

It is yellow, it only turned pink as the flowers faded. Probably weather dependent, we've had unusually warm, dry and sunny weather lately.

Pascal;

Apparently most of what she ships to the US is destroyed by the customs/APHIS, so I can understand why she raised them...
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: TheOnionMan on July 10, 2010, 04:52:59 AM
Does anyone have a picture of a pink Lilium lophophorum (other than this one (http://www.marnis.nl/l-90.jpg))? My own plant looks like it's finally going to flower, and I'm curious as to what I should expect.

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Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: arisaema on July 10, 2010, 08:15:13 AM

This link does not work for me, it complains that it cannot find the jpg file.


Try this link (http://china.planteliste.net/i/l-90.jpg)  :)
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Michael J Campbell on July 10, 2010, 08:40:56 AM
Has anyone got a link for Chen Yi ?  Nothing on Google links back to a web page, or does she have a web page at all.?
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Pascal B on July 10, 2010, 10:38:59 AM
http://china.planteliste.net/

I think it was hosted for her in Norway or something and the pictures of later additions to her list are not on this page. But to be honest, most pictures are not usefull anyway because most items she sends after ordering are not conform the picture. It is a lottery what you get. Could be pleasant surprises, could be stuff you already have, could be weed, could indeed be what your ordered or, in my case last year, could be a virus infected plant (expecting something else, getting a virus-infected Arisaema yunnanense). And if the prices have been raised to the levels of Western nurseries it will become a costly lottery.
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 11, 2010, 11:18:14 PM
It didn't occur to me at the original posting about pink lophophorum but mine does go a little bit pink as it ages. Not so pink as any of those in the links though. Nothing LIKE so pink. McMark will be OK though, with his rose-coloured specatacles. ;D
Title: Re: Pink Lilium lophophorum?
Post by: TheOnionMan on July 12, 2010, 01:54:07 AM
It didn't occur to me at the original posting about pink lophophorum but mine does go a little bit pink as it ages. Not so pink as any of those in the links though. Nothing LIKE so pink. McMark will be OK though, with his rose-coloured specatacles. ;D

That's right Lesley, even the snopdrops are looking decidedly pink to me. ;D
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