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SRGC Shows and Events => SRGC Shows Questions and Answers => Topic started by: TC on May 02, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
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Just back from the Glasgow show at Milngavie -pronounced Mill-guy ! By common consent the star of the show was a delicate little Delphinium chrysotrichum var tsarongense.
Some pictures attached.
014 Gentiana acaulis
015 Haberleaferndai-coburgii 'Connie Davidson'
017 Pleione vesuvius 'Aphrodite'
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Last few
029 Primula elllisiae
Aquilegia flabellata nana
Delphinium chrysotrichum var tsarongense
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Here are some general shots.
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Super photos, Tom; the light in that hall is good , is it not?
I see a great selection of good plants there, but perhaps the benches are not as full as one would have hoped :P
We are finding that, although plants are flowering heavily, many are going over very quickly this year ....perhaps others are finding that to, resulting in fewer plants on the bench. :-\
I'm wondering what will be in flower for the Aberdeen show in a couple of weeks ; perhaps it will be a fantastic foliage event?
Your opening shot of the gentian is delightful... speaks of spring in the mountains, for sure. I do covet that wee Delphinium, what a corker ..... the flowers are like tissue paper with stamens of velvet.... I love it and I'm not surprised it was a big hit with others. Is it from the "Veteran Vet"... George Young ?
I have heard that the Forrest medal went to Brian Davisdon, of Gatehouse of Fleet, for a Trillium.... though my jungle drums have not disclosed which trillium! ::)
Congratulations to Brain on this success.... Glasgow is proving a fertile medal hunting ground for him :)
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Everything looks good, Anthony ......I see that our English chums were well represented in the hall ;D
I spot the hairy Northumbrian, Ian Kidman and Brian Burrow... and that's Alan Spenceley between them,(if I'm not mistaken..... I haven't seen Alan for ages) talking to Cyril Lafong in pic 034.
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Yes, a good show Maggi. The Forrest Medal was won by Brian's Trillium pusillum ozarkum. Ron McBeath was present with flowers and a bottle of Malt for his farewell to the Glasgow show. The prize giving was a happy event, although I'm not sure what put the wind up Ian (the Christie kind)?
150 Ian Christie and Brian Davidson, the Forrest Medal Winner
145 Stella Rankin in a haze
151 John Lee , Ian Bainbridge, President Ian Christie, and the nominated new president, Liz Mills
152 Ron McBeath
154 John Lee , Bill Robinson, the Show secretaries; Ian Bainbridge ; Ron McB.
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Here's some more.
159 Richard Barr; Sandy Leven; Henry Taylor; Bob Meaden
163 Cathy and Barry Caudwell; David Rankin
164 Stan da Prato
165 Alan Weepers, Liz Mills, ?, Jean Wyllie, Tom Green, Sam Sutherland, and Tom's pal
168 Cyril Lafong and Ian Kidman
173 Richard, Sandy, Henry, Bob and Glassford Sprunt
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Wonderful images Tom and Anthony ... many thanks ... it looked a super show. Such a shame that all these shows are on the same day.
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Here's some plants. My neck's getting sore, so I'll just post unnamed.
002 Primula auricula types
006 Pyrethrum leontopdium; Townsendia incana
007 Townsendia incana
009 Fritillaria acmopetala
010 Paris sp.
011 Fritillaria bilfora
013 Dryopteris affinis crispa congesta
014 Cheilanthes ? microphylla
015 Pleione vesuvius 'Aphrodite'
019 Iris sp.
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Another lot.
022 Gentian acaulis
023 Androsace studiosorum 'Doksa'
024 Trillium sp
035 Sebaea thomasii
036 Primula mistissanica
037 Daphne petraea 'Idro'
049 Arisaema thunbergii Urashima
050 Arisaema sp
052 Clematis marmoraria hybrid
053 Fritillaria purdyi
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BTW, isn't it 'Mull-guy'?
054 Iris sp.
055 Trillium pusillum
057 Astragalus sp / Globularia sp in front
058 Eriogonum caespitosum
059 Meconopsis lancifolia
061 Penstemon uinthaensis
075 Delphinium chrysotrichum var tsarongense
062 Delphinium chrysotrichum var tsarongense.
064 Anemone lesseri
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Some more.
066/067 Kidney vetch (Anthyllis vulneraria) red form
069 /117 Orchis mascula
087 Daphne petraea Clone F
092 Iris sp
093 Fritillaria pyrenaica 'Bernard Tickner'
068 Celmisia and Aciphylla
072 Astragalus barrii
074 Meconopsis lancifolia
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and more...
094 Primula aureata
096 /147 Iris ? acutiloba
101 Oxalis sp
104 x Jancaemonda vandedemii
105 Haberlea 'Connie Davidson'
107 Arisaema griffithii
108 Santolina 'Lemon Fiszz'
111 Man Orchid (Aceras anthropophorum)
113 Androsace cylindrica x hirtella
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and more...
115 Arisaema sp.
123 Tulipa sp
124 Fritillaria liliacea
127 Trillium grandiflorum Roseum / Trill. pusillum
129 Arisaema griffithii
171 /133 Androsace studiosorum
140 Calochortus sp
141 Sebaea thomasii
143 Paris sp
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Penultimate lot. The cyps didn't make it to the show bench as I got lost! :-[ The last four were in the Botanics exhibit, although opinion was that the double was Trillium grandiflorum, not ovatum?
144 Arisaema sp.
162 Lewisia tweedyi, yellow form
170 Lewisia tweedyi
172 Androsace studiosorum 'Doksa'
083 2 cypripediums
Moraea alpina ...x 2 pix
078 Tulbaghia sp
076 Trillium grandiflorum , double form
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More from the Silver medal winning Botanics exhibit, and Graeme Butler's Bronze medal winning auriculas from his Rumbling Bridge nursery.
079 Lewisia leana
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Hi Anthony, thanks for all the pictures, the plants and the people were fantastic with another bright sunny day. I do not know where you got that terrible picture of me will probably scare everyone away from the forum, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Just getting round to putting pictures together from the show, see I am a bit late so there will be some repetition. Its the first time I have been to a Scottish show for some years, had a grand blether with old friends. The show was a fine mix of genera and the quality was as good as I remember from years ago. As usual I have just photgraphed what caught my eye. The Glasgow show has a huge range of silverware to award but I am afraid I have not recorded these.
Globularia cordifolia Cyril Lafong
Sebaea thomasii Cyril Lafong
Androsace hirtella x cylindrica Cyril Lafong
Class A from which the previous pictures were all taken Cyril Lafong
Trillium pusillum ozarkanum Brian Davidson Forrest Medal
T pusillum ozarkanum close up
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there are times when you could smash the computer into bits when trying to post more pictures...third try at putting on more
Delphinium chrysotrichum v tsarongense George Young
Meconopsis lancifolia Cyril Lafong
Rhodendron 'Dora Amateus' Stan de Prato
Corydalis melanochlora D&S Rankin
C melanochlora close up
Orchis mascula D&S Rankin
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next few
Hebe cheesemannii George Young
Gentiana acaulis A&V Chambers
Primula florida D&S Rankin
Primula exhibited by M&H Taylor, unfortunately I cannot read the name
Primula ellisae C&I Bainbridge a really lovely specimen
Androsace studiosorum C&I Bainbridge
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Androsace studiosorum 'Doksa' Cyril Lafong
Dodecatheon jeffreyi 'Rotlicht' Cyril Lafong
Aquilegia flabellata 'White Jewel' D&S Rankin
Iris suaveolens Bob Meaden
Iris korolkowii Sam Sutherland
Iris korolkowii Sam Sutherland different view
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The delphinium and corydalis are stunning but there are so many lovely things.
Thanks for the great photographs.
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Fritillaria pyrenaica 'Bernard Tickner' Cyril Lafong
Frillaria glauca 'Goldilocks' George Young
Trillium grandiflorum roseum D&S Rankin
Trillium pusillum A&V Chambers
Trillium luteum a really nice specimen, unfortunatley did not get exhibitors name
Trillium erectum close up Steve McFarlane
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Phaiophleps biflora George Young
Phaiophleps biflora close up B&C Caudwell
Oxalis 'Dark Eye' Richard Barr
Tulipa acuminata Mike Hopkins....a most unusual tulip
Arisaema griffithii again I did not get the exhibitors name but she told me that the plant had been dug out of the garden in advance of the show, a fine exhibit even though it looks a bit menacing. One picture does not do it justice but it was too large to get a whole plant view in the show hall (at least one that did it justice!)
Gentiana acaulis Peter Semple
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Lewisia tweedyi Bob Maxwell
Primula wigramiana D&S Rankin
Androsace cylindrica x hirtella Ian Kidman
Oxalis patagonica C&I Bainbridge
Cypripedium 'Sunny' Ian Chrisite
Primula watsonii Sue Simpson
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Pleione vesuvius 'Aphrodite' M&H Taylor
Pleione vesuvius 'Aphrodite' close up
Daphne petraea 'Idro' Cyril Lafong
Rhododendron 'Ginny Gee' John di Paola
Sebaea thomasii Cyril Lafong...not content to have one fine example here is his second one
Primula bowlesii M&H Taylor
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Daphne petraea 'Tremaltzo' Cyril Lafong
Polemonium viscosum C&I Bainbridge unfortunately only the close up picture is good enough, the whole plant shot had too much blur...this was as good a plant of P viscosum as I have ever seen exhibited
Lewisia cotyledon 'Pink Form' M&H Taylor
Pyrethrum leontopodium Cyril Lafong...it still is one of my favourite plants, unfortunately not so available nowadays and I never see it on seed lists anymore...more's the pity
And that's my finish of the pictures from Glasgow 09
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Pyrethrum leontopodium Cyril Lafong...it still is one of my favourite plants, unfortunately not so available nowadays and I never see it on seed lists anymore...more's the pity
The genus Pyrethrum was taken into Tancetum a few years ago. Try looking for the plant or seed under the name Tanacetum leontopodium ;)
It's been on the AGS seed list the last few years.
Thanks for the pictures of Glasgow show, looks like a super show
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Wonderful shots everyone !!
Thanks a lot for showing us around !!!
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Wnderful pics thanks to all concerned. I loved the display of Show Auriculas and it was great to see George's Delphinium properly out as it was not quite as beautiful as that last week, although I did try to take it home with me. George had to move pretty fast as one or two others had the same idea.
However I have to say that the Arisaema which Sandy has his back towards does look as if it's got its knickers in a bit of a twist under the flower. :o
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Lovely pictures folks thanks for taking the time and the trouble to post them for us. Do I take it that Cyril was adequately compensated with other silverware for not winning The Forrest?
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Re Cyril he had most points in the Open section and at least one certificate of merit that I recall (A studiosorum 'Doksa') but he had to be pleased with the high standard of plants he presented over a wide range of genera, his daphnes and the sebaeas stood out
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Another brilliant display of super plants. Thanks Anthony and the Veteran Vet. Just a LITTLE bit frustrating Anthony, that lack of names.
How marvellous to see Primula wigramiana. :P
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No pleasing some people!
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Well I would have been VErY pleased, if the pics had had names. But I accept your excuse of the sore neck. :)
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Anthony, please be calm.... many of us are quite delighted to see show photos ...with or without names!
I know only too well how much time the posting of these pix takes and I assure you that all of us who undertake mega-postings are accutely aware of the effort and grateful for the same dedication from others.
I suspect Lesley's tongue is, as is often the case, firmly in her cheek, but she is entitled to voice her opinion..... as you often do, on other matters..... :-X
Happily (though these do not show up in a search) the names of many plants can be seen when the photos are enlarged by clicking on them.... :D
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Naming pictures may sound easy but it is not ! For a start, to make sure you get it right, you would have to take a picture of the plant immediately followed by the label. This means double the amount of pictures. Then when you download them to the computer, it allocates numbers in the series jpg 001 etc. At this point you can then rename them if you have a picture of the label. However, if you make a mistake, then the named picture is moved alphabetically and the labelled picture is filed somewhere else. So now you are not sure if you got the name right. If you do post it with the wrong name someone will soon tell you !! If you wait until you have processed them in a photo editing programme and then add the name, sometimes it will not recognise the new name and then not allow you to proceed. If you have successfully named and downsized them the next hazard is posting. When you are posting 10 at a time - sometimes lifting the pictures non-consecutively, it is easy to forget if you have posted the same one twice. You cannot preview the pictures and can only look at what you have sent when it appears on the postings. Also, it is easy to post the original large picture instead of the reduced size one. You then get an error message and when you sort this out and re post, it tells you that this has been posted recently. At this point you feel like putting a brick through the screen ! Unless you have done a lot of posting, it is difficult to realise the amount of time it takes. Anthony must have been at it most of Saturday evening. I know it took me the best part of 2 hours. It's hard at the shows but ten times worse in the field. Trying to find labels can involve advanced limbo dancing and even then they are sometime unreadable. I give this job to my charming assistant Cindy as I did serious damage to my knee crawling over steep mossy slopes at Benmore trying to find labels. My prize for this is an appointment with a consultant orthopaedic surgeon.
Yes, it is nice to get all the names but remember the poor guy who has to do it.
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Naming pictures may sound easy but it is not ! For a start, to make sure you get it right, you would have to take a picture of the plant immediately followed by the label. This means double the amount of pictures. Then when you download them to the computer, it allocates numbers in the series jpg 001 etc. At this point you can then rename them if you have a picture of the label. However, if you make a mistake, then the named picture is moved alphabetically and the labelled picture is filed somewhere else. So now you are not sure if you got the name right. If you do post it with the wrong name someone will soon tell you !! If you wait until you have processed them in a photo editing programme and then add the name, sometimes it will not recognise the new name and then not allow you to proceed. If you have successfully named and downsized them the next hazard is posting. When you are posting 10 at a time - sometimes lifting the pictures non-consecutively, it is easy to forget if you have posted the same one twice. You cannot preview the pictures and can only look at what you have sent when it appears on the postings. Also, it is easy to post the original large picture instead of the reduced size one. You then get an error message and when you sort this out and re post, it tells you that this has been posted recently. At this point you feel like putting a brick through the screen ! Unless you have done a lot of posting, it is difficult to realise the amount of time it takes. Anthony must have been at it most of Saturday evening. I know it took me the best part of 2 hours. It's hard at the shows but ten times worse in the field. Trying to find labels can involve advanced limbo dancing and even then they are sometime unreadable. I give this job to my charming assistant Cindy as I did serious damage to my knee crawling over steep mossy slopes at Benmore trying to find labels. My prize for this is an appointment with a consultant orthopaedic surgeon.
Yes, it is nice to get all the names but remember the poor guy who has to do it.
Crumbs ... I won't be putting myself through all that again soon!!! ::)
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I have to give some comment on this discussion as I do post pictures when I have ones that are indicative of the plants at a show. To save on writing I photograph the plant, then its name and then the exhibitor (at least nearly always). All right, it means that when you get to the computer bit you have editing and deleting to do in addition to the downsizing of the picture to fit on the SRGC web site but so be it. It is time consuming and can be frustrating when you make a balls up but if we are going to promote alpine gardening, and thats why I 'publish' my pictures, then we not only need to go through the rigmarole of doing this but I strongly feel that we need to identify the plants we photograph (in support of Rosemary Cox) if we are to get prople to go to an alpine nursery and ask for a specific plant by the correct name, thats how I got started 20 years ago and is how many people I know did so as well. If there is a choice between no pictures on the web site and pictures with IDs then the pictures will win but we, as the 'posters' should be better than the minimum.....sorry to go on & on
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Having gone on and on at the last posting, where was our procurator offiscal (or whatever the Scottish term is) on Sat, Maggi, you and Ian were missed as I did not have the oportunity to bend your ear (or to me more accurate, get my ear bent by you while I struggle to get a word in edge ways!!!), I hope you are in good health, not caught swine fever or some other nasty bug.
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Am I the only one to think that Lesley was just teasing in a friendly manner ??? ???
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I'm sure she was Luc.
Let me add though, for good measure, my thanks to all who take the time and the trouble to post Show pics on the Forum, named or not, it is greatly appreciated.
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Having gone on and on at the last posting, where was our procurator offiscal (or whatever the Scottish term is) on Sat, Maggi, you and Ian were missed as I did not have the oportunity to bend your ear (or to me more accurate, get my ear bent by you while I struggle to get a word in edge ways!!!), I hope you are in good health, not caught swine fever or some other nasty bug.
We too were sorry not to be able to attend the Glasgow show, George. We always enjoy the chance to chat with chums but we were caught up here with assorted "stuff" that prevented our journey to sunny Milngavie .... such a pity... and there I was with a new set of earmuffs at the ready! ;)
PS: I have added some names to Anthony's posts ;D
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I would like to see matching text and names on the jpegs. I personally find it very easy using photoshop to edit and add the names to my photos
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Thanks Maggi. :) I've added a couple to your comprehensive edit.
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Am I the only one to think that Lesley was just teasing in a friendly manner ??? ???
I was indeed Luc. Thought Anthony knew me well enough by now. I certainly didn't wish to stir up a storm about it. And I assumed Anthony's "no pleasing some people" was also a tease comment. Wasn't it?
Anyway, thanks very much for the editing to add names. In fact, most of them I knew from experience or other posts but there were a couple which intrigued me and rang no bells. Will now backtrack and see what I shall see.
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I find naming really easy so perhaps haven't understood others' problems. When I upload a group of pics to my hard drive, they have a collective name such as crocus, children, winter 09 or whatever. Then when I resize one to post on the Forum, I save that with a new name (thus retaining the old one in its full size form) and that new name is the name of the picture subject such as Crocus nudiflorus, Susan and Ben, Galanthus nivalis 5 or whatever.
All this of course, is for pictures of my own plants or others I know well. No problem with remembering what the plant is. As I've said before, we don't have these incredibly fine shows with many plants new or unknown to the public at large, so that problem of matching a plant to a label doesn't arise. When I DO take such pics, I write the name in a small notebook which I carry with me at all times - except those many times when I forget to take it. >:(
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Sandy's show report appears to have some pics missing?
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Sandy's show report appears to have some pics missing?
Yes, I see the pdf has problems. We may have to live with this until Ian gets back from Sweden! :-\ :-[