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General Subjects => Alpines => Topic started by: Giles on April 16, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
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Lathyrus vernus +
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Hope there will be many more of these to come soon Giles?
Can you name the first two little dianthus please? A little conundrum though. Dianthus like lime. Apparently (according to another thread) the Vitaliana beside the first one requires an acid soil, yet there they both are.....?
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Sorry, Lesley. They weren't labelled. They were both in limestone sinks.
A PM to Paul Cumbleton ('Wisley') would probably come up with the answer though.
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Lesley,
I think the first one (040) might be D. 'Conwy Star' - one of the many excellent dwarf hybrids from Aberconwy nurseries - not quite sure though - some are quite similar :-\
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Thank you gentlemen. If a named hybrid, it's not likely to find its way here. Not as a plant anyway. Seed maybe and one would need to know the parents. These tiny forms for troughs are very charming. We have a few but we should be working on them ourselves rather than just mourning what we can't have. Oh to be 30 years younger. :)
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Lesley,
Given that they don't take long from seed it shouldn't be too much problem. You've got a lot of years left in you yet (I know, I've met you and you're FAR from falling off the perch!! ;D ;)) to breed some Dianthus worthy of their place in your garden. Some of these little-uns certainly do look special enough to try seed from them just on the chance you get interesting offspring. I've had nothing to do with any of these really tiny ones, although I would imagine that some of them would be here in Aus through importing. I think growing these from seed would be well and truly worth the effort. 8)
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Some more this week. I've done the best I can with the names.
Androsace
Androsace bulleyana
Androsace
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Asperula sintensii
Azara serrata
Brodiaea ixioides
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Campanula
Campanula
Campanula saxifraga
Castilleja applegatei
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Cornus kousa
Corydalis Craigton Blue ;)
Cotoneaster
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Daphne jasminea
Daphne x napolitana
Darmera peltata
Dianthus
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Dianthus callizonus
Dianthus pavonius
Enkianthus campanulatus
Gentiana verna
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Grevillea Canberra Gem
Haberlea rhodopensis
Larix kaempferi
Ledebouria
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Paeonia rockii
Paeonia Satin Rouge
Paeony
Paris incompleta
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Penstemon rupicola
Penstemon humilis
Petromarula pinnata
Phlox Correction: Saponaria
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Primula parryi
Rhodohypoxis hybrid
Rhododendron
Rosa banksiae normalis
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Saxifraga protosanctana
Saxifraga Southside Star
Silene californica
Silene hookeri pulverenta
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Thymus doerfleri Bressingham
Townsendia mensana
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Great stuff Giles. Thanks for posting.
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Strangely enough, my eye caught the Craigton Blue ::)
Are they growing it under glass, Giles? It looks very pale indeed.... tell 'em they can plant it out 8)
I'd love it if a van load of those plants could be coming up to the Aberdeen Show on Saturday....... ;)
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Thanks for posting Giles !
Makes me look forward to next Thursday even more !!
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The Corydalis was under glass. My camera had trouble with the blue: it either went technicolour or vey pale.
They also had Jasminum parkeri under glass ???
(If there are any Jasmine-folk out there, a new Kew Monograph of 'The Genus Jasminum' is coming out in a couple of weeks; its not on Amazon, but can be ordered from Kew).
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Giles,very nice and interesting pictures, thanks for showing them.
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And what is Petromarula? I've never heard of it. Looks quite spectacular.
May I correct please? The phlox immediately under the Petromarula, is, I'm sure, Saponaria 'Bressingham Hybrid.'
Lovely plants, every one and excellent pictures. :)
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Beautiful pictures Giles.
May I correct please? The phlox immediately under the Petromarula, is, I'm sure, Saponaria 'Bressingham Hybrid.'
Just looking at the pictures now and my eye fell on the same plant, but Lesley made the question already.
I agree with her.
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Thankyou Lesley and Luit.
I realised it wasn't a primula or daphne, but was left struggling for a name after that 8)
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Giles,
Some fascinating pics in here. So many things Ive never seen before.
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And what is Petromarula? I've never heard of it. Looks quite spectacular.
Lesley,
It seems your question has been overlooked.
Petramarula pinnata is a member of the bellflower family from Crete -
not related to Amarula, a tasty liqueur from South Africa :)
Gerd
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Thanks Gerd, I was wondering if it was a bulb, perhaps related to Scilla, judging from the stem and flower shape.
Giles, like Maggi, you will have to get out more (even more than you already do :)) There's a lot out there that isn't a primula or a daphne. ;D
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Lesley,
I wrote about Petromarula, including pictures of its intriguing pollination mechanism, on log 15 of 2008 (17 July) of my Wisley Log. Worth a read as the mechanism is fascinating
Cheers
Paul
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Thanks Paul, I'll have a look there right away. :)
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What an incredible performance. As you said, "Aren't plants amazing."
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A wonderful set of photographs; enjoyed them very much; many thanks, Paddy
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Some more things from Wisley, (but not alpines this time).
Meconopsis betonicifolia
Candelabra Primulas
Crinodendron hookerianum
Cornus kousa 'Satomi'
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My favourites at the moment: Styrax and Magnolias
Sytrax hemsleyanus 1 and 2
Magnolia macrophylla
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Some more magnolias:
Magnolia 'Judy'
Magnolia unknown
Magnolia obovata
Magnolia officinalis biloba
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Cercis griffithii
Dierama 'Blue Belle'
Rhododendron nice purple stem/pale green leaf combination
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Giles,
Is there a Styrax americanus in Wisely? Looks like this year is a good year for Styrax. The Styrax obassia in the nursery is full of flowers, not seen so much in the last five years. I ask for the S. americanus because we have only little ones. But the have a huge quantity of flours for this little plants. About 100 hundred for a plant of 60- 80 cm.
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Uli,
- I didn't see one. But did see S.obassia and S. japonica (I think).
Fantastic scent, and humming with bees.
I've ordered seed of every Styrax, Pterostyrax and Halesia I can find... I was that impressed !! :)
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I've ordered seed of every Styrax, Pterostyrax and Halesia I can find... I was that impressed !! :)
A wise move, indeed. I have two styraces only, both S. japonica, a "dwarf" form that tops out at about 12' height. Grown from seed 20+ years ago and among the first plants into the soil in my present garden.
Unfortunately, most of my garden is too waterlogged in winter for S. japonica, so those two remain the only ones, being in one of the few sites not soaking wet in winter. I have a potted specimen of the pink-flowered form, but frankly it's inferior to the usual white.
Are you aware that S. japonica (at least my two) is scented very sweetly?
I first saw S. japonica in the garden of Sallie Allen in Seattle 25 years or so ago. She was a notable collector of ericaceous plants and had her styrax growing as an understory plant among the huge Douglas firs that shaded her garden. The layered form of the plant gave it a grace rare among trees.
S. japonica is prone to winter die-back, almost certainly due to wintertime wet, which so many Japanese plants loathe. This last winter I had a flat of seedlings, which I simply moved under cover to keep the water off, and every one of them came through with no die-back. But one of my mature trees lost a major limb.
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Looking forward to see these at Wisley tomorrow ;D
S. japonica, a "dwarf" form that tops out at about 12' height
Mmm I feel a purchase coming on ::)
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Hi Uli,
I have just checked the database at Wisley and it lists one plant of Styrax americanus in the garden, with another plant at Harlow Carr. I haven't actually seen the plant to confirm it is still there (sometimes the database isn't up to date) but it shows there should be one.
Cheers
Paul
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Thank you Paul for this information.
Another reason to see your Paradise. ;)
Cheers Uli
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Giles,
I've just spotted the Styrax from May 29th - now, that's a fabulous plant, simply brilliant. (Better than all these little eense weensie little things we see so often - but don't tell anybody that I said that)
Paddy
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I went to Wisley last weekend so I'll add some general pics to this thread.
The weather was sunny and the garden looked great.
There was also a British Iris Society Show in the Hillside Event Centre.
I have to say it was a bit of a disappointment, partly due to the light being very dark inside, maybe also too late in the season.
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Super pictures, love the irises, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Wonderful to see your photos, Rob. I do hope you made more pictures to show here?
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Here are the rest of the pictures.
The first three are the BIS Show, normally at alpine shows there are several nurseries selling choice plants in flower, at the iris show there was only one table with plants for sale, nothing rare or exoctic, and very few in flower.
Next some carnivorous plants. Paul covered building the beds and planting the carnivorous plants in one of his logs, and the most recent log on 04 Jun has an update.
I have to say they looked brilliant, one of the best bits of the rock garden.
The other iris are ones which were growing outside in the garden.
iris Maui Surf
iris Sultans Palace
iris Phil Keen
iris Provencal
iris Interpol
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Great pictures Rob !
Since we are at it - I can add some pix from Wisley taken two weeks ago !
We visited Wisley and were given a tour of the Alpine houses + a glance 'behind the scenes' by fellow forumnist Paul Cumbleton who is in charge of the Alpine department.
Thanks for a great morning Paul !!
Here's the first batch :
1 to 4 : In and around the Alpine houses - all in pristine condition !!
5-6 : Tufa Wall and raised beds
7) brilliant Edraianthus pumilio on the tufa wall !
More later
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Thanks for sharing your pictures Luc, a great first batch.
It's interesting to see the same area photographed by someone else to see their perspective.
Hopefully you took some pics on your tour behind the scenes.
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Actually I didn't make pix 'behind the scenes' Rob - too busy listening to the interesting explanation Paul gave us :-\. ... sorry
But here are some plants from in and around the alpine houses :
1) Aloe humilis
2) Corydalis 'Craigton blue' - may be known to some people around here... ::)
3) Dianthus callizonus
4) Gladiolus italicus
5-6-7 : Lewisia rediviva - always favourties of mine..
8) Weldenia candida - according to Paul one of the few of their collection that survived the cold Winter...
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Lovely plants, Luc.
Good to see the C. 'Craigton Blue' down there, but I wish they'd plant it outside.... it is a garden plant and the colour is so washed out under glass. :-X Outside the blue is very deep and rich 8)
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Outside the blue is very deep and rich 8)
Like this ;)
Corydalis Craigton Blue
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Mmm! My Craigton Blue has dwindled to two small leaves. Something is wrong!
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Exactly like that, Diane!! Smells nice, too :)
Martin, sorry to hear yours is not doing well.... we have found it to be robust in so many countries already..... I wonder what is up? Too hot and dry??
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Didn't see the C. Craigton blue in the rock garden Maggi, but here is what we did see !
Next batch - in and around the rock garden :
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Martin, sorry to hear yours is not doing well.... we have found it to be robust in so many countries already..... I wonder what is up? Too hot and dry??
Not hot, it's in the shade which pretty much sums up this garden, possibly on the dry side due to root competition but the Hostas don't seem to mind. :(
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Okay, well if it's not being cooked, then perhaps a little more sun would suit it. It does better in sun here, but this IS Aberdeen!
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It shall be moved, once Noah's flood has subsided! Thanks Maggi
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Super pictures, love the irises, .
Especially I. gatesii. The first iris in the second batch is pretty disgusting though. ???