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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: BULBISSIME on April 09, 2009, 12:07:41 AM
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Here is Arum idaeum, from Crete, growing in the mountains.
(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/84/35/03/eos5dm27.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=498&u=11843503)
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Gorgeous Fred. 8)
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That is exquisite.
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Beautiful. I don't think I have seen a proper white species Arum before. Excellent!!
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Gorgeous Fred. 8)
That is exquisite.
Beautiful. I don't think I have seen a proper white species Arum before. Excellent!!
I agree with all the above Fred !!!
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Fred
what a perfaction, love the light on it. :o
thanks
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Fred that is a wonderful photograph of a super plant.
My first arum is in flower today.Sorry it is not a clear photograph but it is flowering with its back to where I can get the camera.
Arum rupicola from Turkey
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Great Tony, I still don't have any flower of this sp.
do you have several variations ?
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Great Tony, I still don't have any flower of this sp.
do you have several variations ?
yes I have ten collections of rupicola
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Super, I hope to see then soon ;D
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Arum creticum in flower today
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Tony,
Lovely. Looks like it is such a nice yellow!
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another Arum rupicola in flower not as bright as the creticum but its held nicely above the foliage
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Superb Tony !!!
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Very nice species Tony, and looks so healthy.
I have tried to grow it many times but it needs a much colder climate.
In our area it grows at high altitudes from 1700m and up.
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Oron
I understand your difficulty with the heat.I am so much cooler,it is an easy one with me.Some have escaped into the garden in old potting compost and are becoming a problem
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Tony,
I think you have a nice pest !! ;D
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Two more members from the family:
Arum concinnatum [not at its best] ex Crete.
Dracunculus vulgaris Ex Crete
D. vulgaris with a huge flower, measured 62cm in Rhodos.
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The last one is stunning Oron. Even the leaves are great, with their white marking. Was the smell apalling? :D
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Lesley,
Isn't Dracunculus in NZ? I grow it here, and just love it. Our seem to produce tall stems though, not the short and squat as appear in Oron's pics. His almost look like a nest of leaves with the flower sitting just above, whereas ours have a stem with leaves up it, topped by a flower. They can be rather huge, as Oron mentioned. Smells like something has died!!
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Wonberfull the Rhodos picture Oron !!
This is a really nice plant, except the sweet fragrance ;) ;D
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Lesley and Fred,
I must say that the smell of this species is not that bad, Arum palaestinum for example is ten times worse.
Still people just cant believe their eyes when Dracunculus is in flower in the garden and don't really notice the odour,
Some times beauty has its costs... ;)
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Oron,
And yet for me here, I can barely smell Arum palaestinum, yet the Dracunculus can be smelt metres away. I wonder if it has to do with climate, and of course clonal differences? ??? I also have Helicodicerus muscivorus, and there is barely any smell to it either, yet it is supposed to be horrific. Probably the worst one that I have come across here is Typhonium brownii, which has the most awful stench. :o
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Oron super flowers as usual.
Paul that is a very compact dracunculus that Oron has shown although the flower is the normal size.In Crete there are many plants 1.5 metres tall where they are growing in the open.
They do not smell as bad as a lot of the arums particularly dioscoridis.
here is what I think is Arum alpinum which has self seeded in a frame.
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another one which has escaped into the garden. It is quite rare in cultivation but is a lovely plant. Similar in appearance to the alpinum but the top of the spathe curls nicely over and it is a richer pink/purple
Arum euxinum originally from Turkey near Lake Abant
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Another great one Tony !
Thank's
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The Dracunculus IS here Paul. I even have it myself, a few tubers, a gift from lurker/poster Andrew Broome, but not flowering yet.
I do like the Arum euxinium. :)
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With me first Arums this season opened only yesterday. Few pictures of Cretan species.
Janis
Arum idaeum from Crete
Arum creticum N. Stevens form
Arum creticum FCC form -1
Arum creticum FCC form -2
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Janis,
Love that delicate colour on the idaeum. Beautiful.
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I agree Paul, this is one of my favourite species !
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It's not actually a species I grow, although I grow a lot of different Arums. I keep collecting all I can find, like so many of us do with so many different things. ;D ;)
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Great to have found this thread, this Arum was found growing in a samll patch of 'woodland' near a seasonal stream, three species grow in my area, Arum alpinum, maculatum and orientale. I am leaning towards this one being maculatum, but if anyone thinks differently please pitch in!
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couple more in flower now.
The arum dioscoridis is a nice green colour which is a little unusual
The arum balansanum is a very small restricted species only about 10cms high
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Welcome back Tony
A. balansanum is a stunner, and also seems to be a good size plant for growing in pots. Beautiful!!
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Thanks Oron, it was a good trip. i have the balansanum growing in the garden from thrown out old potting compost.Where I found it was a very wet area under shrubs.
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Hi Tony:
We grow Arum euxinum from Kew but it is suspiciously similar to hygrophilum. Do you have a side view image of your euxinum?
Thanks
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I am away until Monday and will have a look when I get back.I think there may be one in flower and if it remains on monday I will photograph it.
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Tony,
That is a very nice green dioscoridis, and I just love that Arum balansanum. Never even heard of that one before.
Alberto,
Apparently the two species are VERY similar.
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Thanks, Paul, yes, but the euxinum from Kew looks identical to wild collected hygrophilum. Now that I see Tony's image of true euxinum, the difference is evident.
Yet, foliage of hygrophilum is very elegant and worth a spot in a mixed border. A number of other species have similar looking foliage but this looks attractive.
Paul, I am a fan of your ART. Always amazig how you can supersede yourself in the quality of your photos. Great, great work.
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A couple of photos of what I think is Arum italicum in the garden today and a further photo of what I think is Arum concinnatum taken in the Peloponnese last month.
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Lovely pictures Melvyn. I understand from Arthur you had a good trip.
Here is another picture of Arum exuinum which is in the same section as hygrophilum and I understand very similar. I collected seed of mine at Lake Abant in Turkey the type location and do not grow hygrophilum so there is no chance of a mix up.
Also two others I have in flower now and some pictures of Dracunculus vulgaris all forms with heavily spotted leaves.The one from Italy is a bit battered by the awful weather we are having
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Thanks for your comments Tony. Yes we did have a very good trip to the Peloponnese, Arthur and I intend to post some photos of the excellent plants seen.
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Thanks, Tony. I can see your euxinum is not Kew's "euxinum".
Are you interested in material of hygrophilum?
Regards
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Alberto
thank you for the offer and the answer is yes please.The same offer applies to you,I usually have lots of off sets of different species which are available if you want them.
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An Arum dioscoridis from Egridir in Turkey and two sp that have escaped into the garden with the old potting compost.
Arum dioscoridis
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And here I was complaining about the smell of Aquilegia fragrans... Amazing plants!
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Beautiful arums, everybody! This is Arum korolkovii in the garden. Its seed took 2 winters to germinate.
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Gracefull Arum !!
Here are some Arum conophalloides in Lebanon, growing at about 1500 m, in opend fields.
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/arumco10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=608&u=11843503)
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A fantastic place!
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Lovely, Fred. I really like that one. Haven't seen it before.
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My Arum pictum first flowering, has produced two nice seed heads, exellent!!!
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Nice, Doug. Mine don't seed, but I only have the one clone. I love the autumn flowers on this species! 8)
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First Arum palaestinum for the season.
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My Arum pictum first flowering, has produced two nice seed heads, exellent!!!
Doug,
Plants look very happy and well grown, congratulations!!
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I agree with Oron,
very nice and healthy spathe.
I have small tubers of this species and I hope to grow them as well as you :)
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Those are really nice Doug. Do you have the bulbs in a hot place? and what will you do with the seeds? ;D
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Thanks eveyone for your comments but mother nature has done all the work for me. I use a sandy mix kept moist, in a sunny position with over head frost protection. The seed will be available soon.
My Favourate, Arum purpureospathum here from last year had such a good flowering, I had to share.
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Fabulous colour, Doug :)
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Just started to bloom Arum pictum. It is first time with me and I'm afraid that last, too. Afraid that it will not be hardy here even under cover.
Janis
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Janis,
I grow it since many years in the garden, without any protection, and we had some -12°C for serveral days !
It was flowering again last week, like every year, so,... hope ;D
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I took these pics of a "black arum" in my friend Cathy's garden in Macedon.
Are they Arum palestinum?
cheers
fermi
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yes they are Fermi.
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Not a stunner, but Arum cyrenaicum deserves a place in any garden.
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Janis,
Lovely to see the Arum pictum. A farvourite of mine for the autumn flowers and the lovely red edge to the leaves. Mine I must admit only have pure green leaves though.... I rather like that veined leaf on yours. I know I am quite mild here, but they sail through for me here to -9'C outside in small pots, so if you're giving them protection hopefully they will do OK. Nowhere near as cold as you of course, but the pots would be magnifying the cold, and there has never been any form of damage in the 10 years I have been growing them so here's hoping that they'll do OK for you. Mine flowers and multiplies happily, so it can't be too upset here! ;D
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Just back from Corsica, Arum pictum quite common and full flowering !!
(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/84/35/03/arum_p10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=641&u=11843503)
(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/84/35/03/arum_p11.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=642&u=11843503)
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absolutley beautiful to see growing in the wild! Great shots!
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Here some more pictures of Arum pictum taken today in the local mountains. A very beautiful plant, only the scent could be better. ;)
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Hans,
fantastic photos of this Arum pictum ssp. saggitifolium in the wild, beautiful patterns of the leaf :o :o.
Does it depend on the first rains in order to flower?
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Thanks Oron,
yes you are right - it starts to flower after the first rainfalls.
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Thanks,
Now we have above photos of the two subspieces: ssp. saggitifolium [yours] and ssp. pictum from Corsica [Fred's], easy to notice the difference.
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Hans, yours photos and plants leaves are stunning !!!
I agree with oron : great to see the 2 forms in the same time ...
Try to get some seeds.
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Fred, the leaves are stunning. 8) No wonder Arum italicum pictum is so named. My A. pictum has plain green leaves. :-\
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Anthony, mine too. I didn't realise there were marbled leaf forms of pictum about. I'll have to see if I can track some down over here, as it adds a whole 'nother dimension. :o
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But Pictum means painted, or in this case, marbled, Paul. :)
I see in Fred's second pic, the Arum will soon have some competition for space, with a Cyclamen. I think the Arum may win. :D
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I think those are not cyclamen Lesley?
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no, they are weeds !! Geranium babies ;D
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Yes, you're right. I didn't notice the ones in the first pic, only the one in the second. I was looking at the stem of it as much as anything. Pity.
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But Lesley, you still was right because millions of Cyclamen hederifolium are growing and flowering now in Corsica, along the roads !
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That would be an amazing and wonderful sight. 8)
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oh yes ;D
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Wow, that's a great view 8)
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Wow, that's a great view 8)
Yes - very impressive!
Gerd