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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Michael on April 04, 2009, 09:04:50 PM

Title: Paramongaia
Post by: Michael on April 04, 2009, 09:04:50 PM
First time this giant daffodil flowers to me.

The scent is marvellous :D
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 04, 2009, 09:43:04 PM
I can smell it from Ireland, Mike. Great flower.


Paddy
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 04, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
That is beautiful. How "giant" is it, compared say, to more usual daffodils.
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Michael on April 05, 2009, 07:43:19 PM
It is as big as a hand Lesley. I have polinated it and hopefully, i will get seeds soon. I wonder if this can be used to cross with daffodils...
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Armin on April 05, 2009, 09:14:04 PM
Michael,

very impressive your Paramongaia weberbaueri  8) 8) 8).

I doubt an endemic plant from Peru can pollinate daffodils... :-\
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: maggiepie on April 05, 2009, 09:19:40 PM
Fantastic flower, Michael.
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 05, 2009, 09:22:13 PM
Is it Amaryllidaceae?

Edit by Maggi: Yes it is, Lesley... and I'm moving this thread to those pages....!  :D
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Gerdk on April 06, 2009, 03:44:39 AM
Hans J.,
Is this Paramongaia avaiable in Germany?
 - I'm sure you will know it.

Gerd
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Hans J on April 06, 2009, 07:24:50 AM
Gerd :

so far I know is the only source in England .
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 06, 2009, 09:32:20 AM
Never heard of it before - let alone seen it ...  ???
Wonderful flower Michael !
Thanks for showing it !  ;)
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Miriam on April 06, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
Very nice plant!
I have also never heard about it before.
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Gerdk on April 06, 2009, 08:09:08 PM
Gerd :

so far I know is the only source in England .

Thank you Hans !

Gerd
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on April 06, 2009, 08:48:29 PM
First time this giant daffodil flowers to me.

The scent is marvellous :D
Michael
wonderful, this is the form to winter increase?
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Michael on April 06, 2009, 09:10:19 PM
Hi Alessandro!

Well, this plant was kept bone dry untill itstarted to sprout by the begining of March. Then i started watering it, and it grew very quickly, pretty much like daffodil do. It produced 7 new erect leaves, and when these were about 13cm tall, the flower bud first appeared. The peduncle is rather short when compared to daffodils, but without being that, the growth habit is very alike them. Another interesting feature that i like on Paramongaia is the fact that the stamens are adnate (glued) to the crown of the flower, the free part forms an angle of 90º all around the tube. Part of the styles is lettuce-green, wich gives the flower those nice stripes.

I swear if i had a Narcissus open now, i would use Paramongaia as the pollen donor to try a crossing.

I have an extensive article regarding this species, about it's habitat, hardiness tests and culture. If anybody is interested, please PM me, and i will send it via email.
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: ton wijnen on August 17, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
Hallo

I was reading these ' old' messages but I have a question.
Perhaps one can still help me.
I have also a Paramongaia, almost flowering now, for the first time.
I want seeds from this Paramongaia, but I was reading that the Paramongaia set only seeds by pollination with two different plants. Is that correct?
Can I cross also with his own pollen?
Or with another Amaryllidaceae?
who can help me?

thank you very much

Kind regards

Ton Wijnen
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 17, 2011, 10:48:09 PM
Well Ton, you can only try, can't you? and you may be lucky with a self-pollination. Perhaps you should contact Michael and arrange a crossing for a future flowering.
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: dscherberich on August 19, 2011, 09:51:42 AM
I just came across a nice article on Paramongaia weberbaueri by Alberto Grossi in The Plantsman June 2006 issue. If someone's interested I can scan it and send it.
Title: Re: Paramongaia
Post by: arillady on August 19, 2011, 11:43:39 AM
I had not seen this thread when it first appeared - but glad I have seen it this time as I have never seen this species before.
The size of the flower makes me think that it escaped from a nursery tale about giants.
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